It seems some are still wallowing in their stupid convoluted and perverted delusions they called criticality. They keep lying to themselves that people calling out the 'enablers' pretending to be 'born-again' saviours are being hyprocritical because their party's policies are being criticised. It is real pointless to argue with someone who is convinced that his lies are the truth. Some of us have made it abundantly clear that we are no PDOIS members but since the likes of Mathew Jallow and his little 'flunkies' have no valid arguments they will insist on a lie to make themselves relevant.Well, for me i have seen more acerbic and personalised criticism of Halifa and PDOIS and it does not trouble me in anyway. I know Halifa and PDOIS are more capable in defending themselves than I will ever be. People however can 'intellectually masturbate' to their hearts content all they want about PDOIS folk, i care less. As i am no PDOIS member, never aspired to be one and and never will be one i will let the hallucinating 'Jukebox' fly by night 'critical journalists' to wallow in their lies and delusions. Hypocrites and lies we know when we see them and WE WILL CALL THEM WHAT THEY ARE WITH EASE. However, i reserve the right never to accept the rubbish and perverted notion of selective gibberish thrown around on the opposition politicians on the ground as some well thought out critical observation. As these so-called opinionated 'critically minded' lot reserve the right to say anything in the name of whatever, i as well has the right to say that you are lying and you know you are lying. Staying afar in safety and castigating the efforts of the those on the ground fighting the system is cheap and cowardly.The greatest lie ever since the opposition to Jammeh started is the one 'pushed' around by the 'apologists ' of the former 'enablers' of the rotten regime in Gambia that certain people are trying stop 'those who worked with Jammeh from joining the opposition ranks'. This is an undiluted 'FAT LIE' and til eternity i l will refute it.No hogwashing here.Mboge¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.htmlOn Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:LJD and Yero much respect to you all as always... I wanted to make sure that this argument is being hijacked and wrap around a common convenient theme of those who served under the Jammeh regime and termed as "enablers"...Uncle Matthew's larger argument remains valid that none of us can stop anybody from joining the fight against Jammeh whether they previously served him or not.. If fact remains that no one needs any of our permission to fight against impunity whether they are born again or what have you...Now those who were called labelled intolerance and hypocritical were not called so because they condemned the Dr. Jannehs or Dr. Jobe. They were called intolerant because they came our swinging and calling people all kinds of names because their party was criticized. I was personally attacked for criticizing PDOIS and their policies..My response here was the those who aspire to lead our country must be subject to criticism just as they do to Jammeh and his gang everyday... So let us not mix apples with oranges around a convenience theme for easy target... Intolerance any where is intolerance everywhere.. The old boys network of being with us or with the enemy is deceptive and hypocritical... It manifest a narrow mindedness and deception...Finally, my personal contention remains that those who insist on their way or the highway are equally enablers. Those who insist on endless process and historical footnotes are equally enablers of the political regime in Gambia... The hypocrisy is unbelievable... How comes Hamat Bah was being paraded here as an enabler of Jammeh even though he never served under the Jammeh regime? Do me a favor and just issue one statement being critical of one party or the other and see how much mud is being thrown at your face... That is what we will continue to call intolerance and we have the records to proof it... I repeat... intolerance anywhere is intolerance everywhere... We will not let anyone hide behind some deceptive argument to buttress their purity here...Demba--On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 4:42 AM, Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
LJD,The truth will eventually prevail. When we refused to accept Mathew Jallow's and some of the other pretenders rubbish about some former 'enablers' of Jammeh being our saviours and what have you, we were called intolerant and trying to elbow people out of the opposition ranks. As i said before that is lie, none of us has the intend, power or capacity to stop anyone from joining Jammeh but what i will not keep mute about is the lie that these people know something we don't know about Jammeh or that they were on some subversive mission or something to undermine Jammeh from within. The strange thing is that all these 'born-again' saviours are actually Jammeh rejects who most probably if they hadn't been thrown out they will be still with the CHILD MURDERER moonlighting as President of the Gambia.I am ignoring the rubbish reasons some of the apologists of these people keep casting around especially the nonsensical comparison someone brought about OMAR IBN HATAB the companion of our Prophet. We know Halifa Omar IBN Hatab was never a snitch neither an enabler. He initially refused to join ISLAM based on a principled conviction of what was obtained in Arabia when the new religion of Islam began spreading. When he was convinced of the message brought by the Prophet of Islam he became one of the fierciest defenders of it and never betrayed the trust of anyone. Comparing him and his ways with the Jammeh's former enablers is to me blasphemous.Best regards,Mboge¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.htmlOn Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Yes Mboge, I too thought about Mathew K's motivation, but whatever the driver behind his conversion, I'm pleased he appreciates the contradiction in going after the Professor, and his current enablers, and turning a blind eye to the moral infringements of those who sat and dined at that merciless table less than ten years ago. As they say, better late than never.Just teasing Mathew about apologizing, as I am aware he wont. and there is really no reason to anyway. I'm celebrating nevertheless, and like the sea of its foreign content, time will lay bare Mathew's inspiration for embracing the truth.LJDarbo
From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2013, 1:42
Subject: Re: [G_L] BRILLIANT COMMENTARY FROM MATHEW K JALLOW
LJD,I chuckled when i read Mathew's piece on Maafanta earlier. I thought this is good but why the omission of his friends. Anyway, no need to apologise to me. Just wondering what caused this latest epiphany .Best,Mboge¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.htmlOn Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.htmlAllI'm not in the habit of forwarding material by Mathew K Jallow, but I proudly make an exception on this occasion. Even with his stark omissions, this is a brilliant piece, and please feel free to insert the names that are shouting for inclusion in this Professor Jammeh luminaries list including "... Sarjo Jallow, Nene Macdolle, Fatoumata Tambajang, Nana Grey-Johnson, Bala Garba-Jahumpa and Mbemba Tambedou ..."Will our good brother now do the honorable thing and apologize to M O Mboge, Joe Sambou, and myself for saying the very same thing only months ago, and in the process needlessly incurring his substantial wrath. Mathew has come of age, and I am now willing to consider him for President of the Third Republic.
LJDarbo
The Gambia: The new mind of a people and the color of betrayalBy Mathew K JallowTo digress from the nastiness of politics for a moment, this focus, instead, on human nature in Gambia, is a fundamental component of the changes in our cultural landscape. This plunge into the complexity of human nature attempts to contextualize the enormous lapses in judgment to which many Gambians have become willing victims. And, this is not in reference to theoretical psychology, but on the facts of our lives that respond to our moral groundings. It is our lived experience, groomed by society’s norms, and distinguish our capacity to rationalize from the other forces in nature; animals. At one critical level, our countrymen and womens’ fickle minds lend themselves to fall into the dreadful entrapment of the promises of power and prestige, but perhaps the most significant motivating factor is the power of economics; the bottom-line. In short, it is purely an issue of self-preservation dictated by a need for political power and economic self-protection, and over the past eighteen years, it has devalued our concepts of society, but even more importantly, our perception of our fellow countrymen and women is hopelessly entangled between the clearly opposing contradictions of moral obligation and our Darwinian primordial instincts for survival. The most recent intense public castigation campaign and moral marginalization of Nana Grey-Johnson, typify the stark division among Gambians; a division explainable primarily by simple environmental factors. I was tongue-tied, of course, during Nana’s ordeal, not because of an innate desire to protect a friend, but rather because of the awareness of how economic conditions at home provide a powerful force for malleability and utter indifference to moral rationality.Clearly, Nana Grey-Johnson deserved the loud criticisms too, for failing the moral test, but, with that story now behind us, Nana Grey is not unmindful that he is wedged between the dangerous company of Imperial King, Yahya Jammeh and the unforgiving indignation of the vocal Gambian minority. Today, Gambia is in the grip of an intellectual degradation unlike anything Africa has experienced since the seventies, and the customariness with which many Gambians have fallen victims to Imperial King, Yahya Jammeh’s power and the lure of political status is an object of ongoing debate among Gambians. The long list of Gambians deserving case studies to provide empirical evidence in understanding the cruelty of Gambian politics under Imperial King, Yahya Jammeh, include, but is not limited only to; Sarjo Jallow, Nene Macdolle, Fatoumata Tambajang, Nana Grey-Johnson, Bala Garba-Jahumpa and Mbemba Tambedou, all relatives and close friends, among the other eighty cabinet appointments under Yahya Jammeh. But, this failure of moral obligation to Gambians has a religious dimension, further complicating the enormous challenges of moral uprightness. The fact that so many Gambians choose to disregard the failure of leadership under Imperial King, Yahya Jammeh, is itself stunning, but that so many of them can endure the indignities of arrests, tortures and recycleing back into the system, is mind-blowing and absurd. But, what obsesses the Gambian mind most is the calculations of accepting temporary appointment in any position under Yahya Jammeh even while Gambians continue to be murdered, to disappear and to be reduced in their aspirations and limited in their freedoms.Intellectual uprightness dictates the assumption of moral superiority in our patriotic obligations to our fellow citizens, but the utter failure to live up to that ideal, will compel my friend Nana Grey-Johnson and all the others to endure the cloud of bitterness and indignant distaste likely to hang over their heads in the coming years. That said, the complete collapse of the moral moorings of fellow citizens back home; from the senior cabinet positions, to civil servants and to other levels of society, more than being tantalizing, is slowly reconfiguring the psyche of our people and changing the values inherited for our noble past. And for now, Gambians still disappear; the murders still escalate; prison once an anathema, is now almost a rite of passage; executions still concealed by the darkness of night, and the terror of a people speaks loudly in its silent eloquence. Still, Gambians, from cabinet appointees to senior civil servants and political activists, remain unbothered by the tremendous criminality of the regime, but most specifically, of Imperial King, Yahya Jammeh. The unflattering nature of the regime typify a loss of credibility that borders on illegitimacy and the reduction of an entire society into a permanent underclass signals the saturation our endurance and the inevitable need for political change. But, whether Imperial King, Yahya Jammeh will move out by his own freewill or by the devastating force of cold lead through his brain, is another matter altogether. The suffering people of the Gambia have time on their side. For, even the longest nightmare has its day of freedom, and the Gambia is no different. 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