Demba,

I will only engage you when you lie. I have no time for delusional people
like you.  Another lie, i never hide behind anyone else and you damn well
know it but as your trademark you will just makeup stuff to try to make a
point.  Let everyone think what they want, i do not need neither do I seek
anyone's approval on this forum to me.

tata tata!

Mboge


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I will not engage you Mr. Mboge... I just wanted to make sure that you do
> not hide behind somebody else and some common theme to spew your anger... I
> must not tell anyone here about you because everyone here knows how low you
> can go... so celebrate your hate and find others to spit your tobacco at!!!
>
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> Demba,
>>
>> Talking about man enough.  You are a joke little twerp.  Your post
>> referred to me without calling my name so i was only following your cue.
>> But since you've named me now.  Let us take from their.  I HAVE CALLED YOU
>> A LIAR AND HYPOCRITE BEFORE AND IF NECESSARY I WILL DO SO.  Do not worry
>> about that.
>>
>> Mboge
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> You are not man enough to name names Mr. Mboge are you? You are drowning
>>> in hate and deception... you might as well prepare because you will hear
>>> the criticism either you like them or not...  Your records of intolerance
>>> speaks for itself..
>>>
>>> Demba
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> It seems some are still wallowing in  their stupid convoluted and
>>>> perverted delusions they called criticality.  They keep lying to themselves
>>>> that people calling out the 'enablers' pretending to be 'born-again'
>>>> saviours are being hyprocritical because their party's policies are being
>>>> criticised.  It is real pointless to argue with someone who is
>>>> convinced that his lies are the truth.  Some of us have made it abundantly
>>>> clear that we are no PDOIS members but since the likes of Mathew Jallow and
>>>> his little 'flunkies' have no valid arguments they will insist on a lie to
>>>> make themselves relevant.
>>>>
>>>> Well, for me i have seen more acerbic and personalised criticism of
>>>> Halifa and PDOIS and it does not trouble me in anyway.  I know Halifa
>>>> and PDOIS are more capable in defending themselves than I will ever be.
>>>> People however can 'intellectually masturbate'  to their hearts content all
>>>> they want about PDOIS folk, i care less.  As i am no PDOIS member, never
>>>> aspired to be one and and never will be one i will  let the hallucinating
>>>> 'Jukebox' fly by night 'critical journalists' to wallow in their lies
>>>> and delusions.  Hypocrites and lies we know when we see them and WE WILL
>>>> CALL THEM WHAT THEY ARE WITH EASE. However, i reserve the right never
>>>> to accept the rubbish and perverted notion of selective gibberish thrown
>>>> around on the opposition politicians on the ground as some well thought out
>>>> critical observation.  As these so-called opinionated 'critically minded'
>>>> lot reserve the right to say anything in the name of whatever, i as well
>>>> has the right to say that you are lying and you know you are lying.
>>>> Staying afar in safety and castigating the efforts of the those on the
>>>> ground fighting the system is cheap and cowardly.
>>>>
>>>> The greatest lie ever since the opposition to Jammeh started is the one
>>>> 'pushed'  around by the 'apologists ' of the former 'enablers'  of the
>>>> rotten regime in Gambia that certain people are trying stop 'those who
>>>> worked with Jammeh from joining the opposition ranks'.  This is an
>>>> undiluted  'FAT LIE' and til eternity i l will refute it.
>>>>
>>>> No hogwashing here.
>>>>
>>>> Mboge
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> LJD and Yero much respect to you all as always... I wanted to make
>>>>> sure that this argument is being hijacked and wrap around a common
>>>>> convenient theme of those who served under the Jammeh regime and termed as
>>>>> "enablers"...
>>>>>
>>>>> Uncle Matthew's larger argument remains valid that none of us can stop
>>>>> anybody from joining the fight against Jammeh whether they previously
>>>>> served him or not.. If fact remains that no one needs any of our permission
>>>>> to fight against impunity whether they are born again or what have you...
>>>>>
>>>>> Now those who were called labelled intolerance and hypocritical were
>>>>> not called so because they condemned the Dr. Jannehs or Dr. Jobe. They were
>>>>> called intolerant because they came our swinging and calling people all
>>>>> kinds of names because their party was criticized. I was personally
>>>>> attacked for criticizing PDOIS and their policies..
>>>>>
>>>>> My response here was the those who aspire to lead our country must be
>>>>> subject to criticism just as they do to Jammeh and his gang everyday... So
>>>>> let us not mix apples with oranges around a convenience theme for easy
>>>>> target... *Intolerance any where is intolerance everywhere.. *The old
>>>>> boys network of being with us or with the enemy is deceptive and
>>>>> hypocritical... It manifest a narrow mindedness and deception...
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, my personal contention remains that those who insist on their
>>>>> way or the highway are equally enablers. Those who insist on endless
>>>>> process and historical footnotes are equally enablers of the political
>>>>> regime in Gambia... The hypocrisy is unbelievable... How comes Hamat Bah
>>>>> was being paraded here as an enabler of Jammeh even though he never served
>>>>> under the Jammeh regime? Do me a favor and just issue one statement being
>>>>> critical of one party or the other and see how much mud is being thrown at
>>>>> your face... That is what we will continue to call intolerance and we have
>>>>> the records to proof it... I repeat...* intolerance anywhere is
>>>>> intolerance everywhere*... We will not let anyone hide behind some
>>>>> deceptive argument to buttress their purity here...
>>>>>
>>>>> Demba
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 4:42 AM, Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> LJD,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The truth will eventually prevail.  When we refused to accept Mathew
>>>>>> Jallow's and some of the other pretenders rubbish about some former
>>>>>> 'enablers' of Jammeh being our saviours and what have you, we were called
>>>>>> intolerant and trying to elbow people out of the opposition ranks.  As i
>>>>>> said before that is lie, none of us has the intend, power or capacity to
>>>>>> stop anyone from joining Jammeh but what i will not keep mute about is the
>>>>>> lie that these people know something we don't know about Jammeh or that
>>>>>> they were on some subversive mission or something to undermine Jammeh from
>>>>>> within.  The strange thing is that all these 'born-again' saviours are
>>>>>> actually Jammeh rejects who most probably if they hadn't been thrown out
>>>>>> they will be still with the CHILD MURDERER moonlighting as President of the
>>>>>> Gambia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am ignoring the rubbish reasons some of the apologists of these
>>>>>> people keep casting around especially the nonsensical comparison someone
>>>>>> brought about OMAR IBN HATAB the companion of our Prophet.  We know Halifa
>>>>>> Omar IBN Hatab was never a snitch neither an enabler.  He initially refused
>>>>>> to join ISLAM based on a principled conviction of what was obtained in
>>>>>> Arabia when the new religion of Islam began spreading.  When he was
>>>>>> convinced of the message brought by the Prophet of Islam he became one of
>>>>>> the fierciest defenders of it and never betrayed the trust of anyone.
>>>>>> Comparing him and his ways with the Jammeh's former enablers is to me
>>>>>> blasphemous.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mboge
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Lamin Darbo <
>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Yes Mboge, I too thought about Mathew K's motivation, but whatever
>>>>>>> the driver behind his conversion, I'm pleased he appreciates the
>>>>>>> contradiction in going after the Professor, and his current enablers, and
>>>>>>> turning a blind eye to the moral infringements of those who sat and dined
>>>>>>> at that merciless table less than ten years ago. As they say, better late
>>>>>>> than never.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just teasing Mathew about apologizing, as I am aware he wont. and
>>>>>>> there is really no reason to anyway. I'm celebrating nevertheless, and like
>>>>>>> the sea of its foreign content, time will lay bare Mathew's inspiration for
>>>>>>> embracing the truth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LJDarbo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   ------------------------------
>>>>>>>  *From:* Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 April 2013, 1:42
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [G_L] BRILLIANT COMMENTARY FROM MATHEW K JALLOW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LJD,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I chuckled when i read Mathew's piece on Maafanta earlier.  I
>>>>>>> thought this is good but why the omission of his friends.  Anyway, no need
>>>>>>> to apologise to me.  Just wondering what caused this latest epiphany .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Mboge
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Lamin Darbo <
>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  All
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not in the habit of forwarding material by Mathew K Jallow, but
>>>>>>> I proudly make an exception on this occasion. Even with his stark
>>>>>>> omissions, this is a brilliant piece, and please feel free to
>>>>>>> insert the names that are shouting for inclusion in this Professor Jammeh
>>>>>>> luminaries list including "... Sarjo Jallow, Nene Macdolle,
>>>>>>> Fatoumata Tambajang, Nana Grey-Johnson, Bala Garba-Jahumpa and Mbemba
>>>>>>> Tambedou ..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will our good brother now do the honorable thing and apologize to M
>>>>>>> O Mboge, Joe Sambou, and myself for saying the very same thing only months
>>>>>>> ago, and in the process needlessly incurring his substantial wrath. Mathew
>>>>>>> has come of age, and I am now willing to consider him for President of the
>>>>>>> Third Republic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LJDarbo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *The Gambia: The new mind of a people and the color of betrayal*****
>>>>>>> * *
>>>>>>> *By Mathew K Jallow*****
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>> To digress from the nastiness of politics for a moment, this focus,
>>>>>>> instead, on human nature in Gambia, is a fundamental component of the
>>>>>>> changes in our cultural landscape. This plunge into the complexity of human
>>>>>>> nature attempts to contextualize the enormous lapses in judgment to which
>>>>>>> many Gambians have become willing victims. And, this is not in reference to
>>>>>>> theoretical psychology, but on the facts of our lives that respond to our
>>>>>>> moral groundings. It is our lived experience, groomed by society’s norms,
>>>>>>> and distinguish our capacity to rationalize from the other forces in
>>>>>>> nature; animals. At one critical level, our countrymen and womens’ fickle
>>>>>>> minds lend themselves to fall into the dreadful entrapment of the promises
>>>>>>> of power and prestige, but perhaps the most significant motivating factor
>>>>>>> is the power of economics; the bottom-line. In short, it is purely an issue
>>>>>>> of self-preservation dictated by a need for political power and economic
>>>>>>> self-protection, and over the past eighteen years, it has devalued our
>>>>>>> concepts of society, but even more importantly, our perception of our
>>>>>>> fellow countrymen and women is hopelessly entangled between the clearly
>>>>>>> opposing contradictions of moral obligation and our Darwinian primordial
>>>>>>> instincts for survival. The most recent intense public castigation campaign
>>>>>>> and moral marginalization of Nana Grey-Johnson, typify the stark division
>>>>>>> among Gambians; a division explainable primarily by simple environmental
>>>>>>> factors. I was tongue-tied, of course, during Nana’s ordeal, not because of
>>>>>>> an innate desire to protect a friend, but rather because of the awareness
>>>>>>> of how economic conditions at home provide a powerful force for
>>>>>>> malleability and utter indifference to moral rationality.****
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>> Clearly, Nana Grey-Johnson deserved the loud criticisms too, for
>>>>>>> failing the moral test, but, with that story now behind us, Nana Grey is
>>>>>>> not unmindful that he is wedged between the dangerous company of Imperial
>>>>>>> King, Yahya Jammeh and the unforgiving indignation of the vocal Gambian
>>>>>>> minority. Today, Gambia is in the grip of an intellectual degradation
>>>>>>> unlike anything Africa has experienced since the seventies, and the
>>>>>>> customariness with which many Gambians have fallen victims to Imperial
>>>>>>> King, Yahya Jammeh’s power and the lure of political status is an object of
>>>>>>> ongoing debate among Gambians. The long list of Gambians deserving case
>>>>>>> studies to provide empirical evidence in understanding the cruelty of
>>>>>>> Gambian politics under Imperial King, Yahya Jammeh, include, but is not
>>>>>>> limited only to; Sarjo Jallow, Nene Macdolle, Fatoumata Tambajang, Nana
>>>>>>> Grey-Johnson, Bala Garba-Jahumpa and Mbemba Tambedou, all relatives and
>>>>>>> close friends, among the other eighty cabinet appointments under Yahya
>>>>>>> Jammeh. But, this failure of moral obligation to Gambians has a religious
>>>>>>> dimension, further complicating the enormous challenges of moral
>>>>>>> uprightness. The fact that so many Gambians choose to disregard the failure
>>>>>>> of leadership under Imperial King, Yahya Jammeh, is itself stunning, but
>>>>>>> that so many of them can endure the indignities of arrests, tortures and
>>>>>>> recycleing back into the system, is mind-blowing and absurd. But, what
>>>>>>> obsesses the Gambian mind most is the calculations of accepting temporary
>>>>>>> appointment in any position under Yahya Jammeh even while Gambians continue
>>>>>>> to be murdered, to disappear and to be reduced in their aspirations and
>>>>>>> limited in their freedoms.****
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>> Intellectual uprightness dictates the assumption of moral
>>>>>>> superiority in our patriotic obligations to our fellow citizens, but the
>>>>>>> utter failure to live up to that ideal, will compel my friend Nana
>>>>>>> Grey-Johnson and all the others to endure the cloud of bitterness and
>>>>>>> indignant distaste likely to hang over their heads in the coming years.
>>>>>>> That said, the complete collapse of the moral moorings of fellow citizens
>>>>>>> back home; from the senior cabinet positions, to civil servants and to
>>>>>>> other levels of society, more than being tantalizing, is slowly
>>>>>>> reconfiguring the psyche of our people and changing the values inherited
>>>>>>> for our noble past. And for now, Gambians still disappear; the murders
>>>>>>> still escalate; prison once an anathema, is now almost a rite of passage;
>>>>>>> executions still concealed by the darkness of night, and the terror of a
>>>>>>> people speaks loudly in its silent eloquence. Still, Gambians, from cabinet
>>>>>>> appointees to senior civil servants and political activists, remain
>>>>>>> unbothered by the tremendous criminality of the regime, but most
>>>>>>> specifically, of Imperial King, Yahya Jammeh. The unflattering nature of
>>>>>>> the regime typify a loss of credibility that borders on illegitimacy and
>>>>>>> the reduction of an entire society into a permanent underclass signals the
>>>>>>> saturation our endurance and the inevitable need for political change. But,
>>>>>>> whether Imperial King, Yahya Jammeh will move out by his own freewill or by
>>>>>>> the devastating force of cold lead through his brain, is another matter
>>>>>>> altogether. The suffering people of the Gambia have time on their side.
>>>>>>> For, even the longest nightmare has its day of freedom, and the Gambia is
>>>>>>> no different. As it is, the new Gambian mindset lacks the basic tenets of
>>>>>>> morality, and Nana Grey-Johnson, like other who serve Yahya Jammeh, speaks
>>>>>>> to that moral deficit and that color of betrayal.****
>>>>>>> ** **
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