Harouna, what amazes me is that folks can connect the dots between GCC, CCG, Raligh, and Matthew. Yet, they some how want to dishonestly want to make Joe the issue. I am not even trying to find Edi Edi and he knows it. We also know a good chunk of Matthew's few good men are club members with Matthew, yet, folks put on the blinders to pretend that they do not know that. It is like I select half of the STGDP members and some of my support cast come here to pretend they do not know my association with Banka, Musa, Sigga et el. That is blatantly dishonest. You know some cannot help with their vindictiveness. Who can honestly stand here and say they do not know what Matthew and his gang are about? Who? What does Matthew, Sidi, Sidat, Amadou, Buba, Ndey Tapha, etc. have in common? Can anyone educate us otherwise? Folks were here jumping about Raleigh being a uniting event and mauled each other on the haters of Raleigh, only to foam on the other cheek when they see Matthew, GCC and CCG trying to get one up on Raleigh. It is very foolish to want to explain away something that is so basic and obvious to all. The important thing here is most who have been around know what's up and that is sufficient. 

Joe

Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:19:34 -0400
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Giuseppe, I have no idea what this cat Mams is trying to say here. Maybe he's been away for too long. If you know what is good for you, you will not ask him for clarifications. He's likely to take you on a merry-go-round of non-descript religion.

 






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Joe what is the issue about in your opinion different from what I am writing? and why do you take Mathew as an outsider? Do you sometimes forget your senses before responding to issues? You fail to understand that you are living in America whereby public opinion is as important. You are attesting to me that hence Mathew was not in Raleigh, he had no right to contribute his opinion? which world are you living in? didn't you know that public opinion does not always come from group of people but also individuals? You sometime needed to read yourself before writing because your ideas are sometimes out of touch with the reality on the ground. You always ponder on people's mistake like you are the most perfect one among the lots. Bro. this is not the way things should be. I rather follow an experience person than inexperience, in
 other word; follow one who sacrifices without fear and fail with broader education to amend his/her mistakes than the one who have never try to sacrifice. A blind man can never successfully lead a blind. Again One who traveled extensively is more reliable than the classroom traveler. Joe I am just trying to simplify my meaning to you maybe you will understand me one way or the other. I rest my case. Edi











 



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Edi, I think you need to know what the issue is first before you assign yourself a referee. You clearly do not understand what  going on. If you agree that the lot of Gambians will converge in raleigh only for a lone Matthew to attempt to upstage them, then say so. I like the way we have a dog in the race but always pretend to be neutral. Lingaa Waaxh Fee Japut Hel! Dude, proposal is not the issue and it is not for Matthew to propose for the lot that spent their time at the gathering. Oh preacher, preacher!



 



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You people needed to be serious, The man came with his proposal instead of countering his opinion, you are against it or nullifying his opinion. When shall we seized to be such a choleric individuals? I think we should be phlegmatic towards Mathew's honest initiatives. The only mistake here on his side is the inclusion of his own name knowing quite well, how our mentality function. Besides, he already mentioned the fact that his proposition is not permanent. Are we here to find a perfect person to lead us? who is that perfect person? Is there anyone in this world without error? What we are hungry to materialize is change of government not judging each other. One will never learn without making mistake, mistake should be used as stepping stone not as judging other's reliability period. Edi
















 




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Giuseppe, you can smell a rat a Gambian mile away! What is wrong with yew? Saachay Mbow!!!!!!!! 










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Nice try, but I cannot help but to point out the slight of hand here and am sure many saw the same. If Raleigh is Super Kanja then GCC is Domoda. Now, how were they mixed in together and we end up with Domoda? Not withstanding the lack of women in this scheme which was pointed out by someone, it is also quite apparent that "our saviors" end up Steering Us, Leading Us, and Advising the drivers and leaders of the steered and the led. I thought their's was not about leadership? Yet, every where you turn you see their hustle all over the place. How did Sidat and Amadou end up steering the herd and Mathew and Morro "Advising" them? I even see Buba dangling on some Banghas. This scheme is more rigged than a "Konge Picho Mboloo". Matthew and his gang must change suppliers, for they have been sold some bad stuff that is messing with their brain. The last time I checked, Raleigh was not GCC and even Che Kebbeh had a seat at the table. As of last
 week, I was also informed that those who went to Raleigh were about to meet to form a Steering Committee about the way forward. How come then Matthew and his Gang scurried up their list ahead of Raleigh? Is Raleigh at par with GCC or better yet, is Raleigh Subordinate to GCC? GCC seem to have an internal problem for many a times it sounds like Matthew is talking and not a group. The below nonsensical list is one of those instances it seems. It is also very cloudy as to where CCG ends and where GCC begin, for you see the same foxes appearing and disappearing on both sides of the fence. We have not yet gotten power and we are this dangerous, I wonder what this bunch will lay on Gambians if we fool around and have them lord over us. We seem to have too many damn Chiefs and very few Indians. The other funny thing is to read them appointing themselves instead of their fellow stakeholders appointing them. Now Gambians, look at the below list (except for a
 few) and tell me if it does not resemble more like a Kabudou list, Stout, as in Guiness included! True to form, Matthew is basically saying that the Raleigh folks stole the ideas of GCC, which is Matthew's mouthpiece and so Matthew will fix the darn thing and save all and sundry from "Divisiveness" - I have been hearing a lot about that word and it sounds very familiar. Is Matthew associating such a "Bad" word with Raleigh? Blasphemy! Sankanu is not the exception in out lot you know! See the below culled from Maafanta.





The Gambia: Raleigh and the urgency of political change





By Mathew K Jallow





It is an integral part of Gambian history. The Raleigh Conference, that is. Not history as in things past. For Raleigh is still ongoing, still under a slow, painful birth; still emerging out of the dark shadow of Gambia’s tragic story; and still being crafted into Gambia’s political reality. One can rightly argue that Gambia is exceedingly
 messy both in its politics as well as its socio-economics, even laden with smoldering bitterness beneath the surface tranquility, and some Gambians are often divided by the familiar nonsensicality of their individual illusions of intellectual prowess, but there is nothing idealistic about aspirating for a Gambia that is free from the vicissitudes of corruption and political tyranny. The right to liberty and freedom is an instinct of nature, an essential element of being human, and its supremacy must never be compromised or subjected to wimps of despots and political manipulation. The meticulous planning that went into making Raleigh a reality reflects the pathetic political conundrum that has wrecked havoc on the Gambia’s cultural cohesiveness and moral rectitude, which for generations had defined the true Gambian spirit. The surprising 1994 coup, which initially generated a groundswell of support, irreversibly devastated the Gambia and led to the
 ongoing social disarray and political confusion, but not even the cruelty of the reptilian bloodlust of its aftermath could confound Gambians’ sense of nationalism and unparalleled patriotism.








The true meaning of Raleigh was, therefore, to arouse our jealously guarded nationalistic fervor for a cause greater than our individuals’ grossly inflated senses of our worth. But Raleigh also questioned the depth to which Gambians would go, the breadth to which they will venture, and the extent to which they will sacrifice in order to restore dignity to a brutalized country. Raleigh as an event of historical significance may now belong to the past, yet its aims and visions lives on in our collective commitment to a free Gambia. The Resolutions that came out of Raleigh are a mature and balanced approach with potentials for success in lieu of the Gambia’s notoriously partisan electoral system. To further foil prospects to alter political
 landscape, Yahya Jammeh, over the past several years completely stripped the Gambian military of its intellectual capacity and moral fortitude to force regime change in Gambia. But, Raleigh has come to signify the opening of an avenue that will carry Gambia towards a new and just political dispensation. And Raleigh crafted a Resolution that is striking in many ways, but particularly because it called for the formation of a Steering Committee. From personal knowledge, different Gambian groups and individuals support different individuals to head a united civil society front, nonetheless, we have a unique opportunity to end the unnecessary bickering over this issue. 








As it stands now, the new and still forming Gambia Consultative Council (GCC), which has the most comprehensive list of Gambian organizations and individuals involved in the liberation struggle, originally planned to hold voting of an Executive Committee to lead the Gambian
 struggle, but the recent UK Congress and the Raleigh Conference, have together preempted much of GCC’s original plans and forced the organization’s rethinking of a new direction. It is worth noting that prior to the Raleigh Resolution; GCC had concluded that the divisiveness that could result from voting for its Executive Committee was unnecessary and preventable. GCC, therefore, proposed the formation of a Steering Committee, which incidentally the Raleigh Conference proposed as well. Now that a common ground has been created between Raleigh and GCC, we should collectively agree that Gambians needs to put our best feet out to lead the effort in regaining our country. The Gambians who GCC proposes to lead our collective effort have earned the right, not because they are better educated, but because they have better and more broadly recognizable resumes. In this ongoing struggle, GCC recognizes the selfless efforts of every Gambian, but in order to
 achieve the success we desire, a leadership organizational structure is required and the formation of a Steering Committee is an appropriate beginning. In recognizing the brilliant ideas coming out of Raleigh, the GCC proposes the formation of such a leadership structure as follows:








Steering Committee





Dr Momodou Lamin Sedat Jobe





Bakary B Darboe





Dr. Abdoulaye Saine





Hon. Ousainou Darboe





Dr. Amadou Scattred Janneh





Adviser of Steering Committee





Buba Baldeh advises Dr. Sedat Jobe





Abdoulie Jobe advises Bakary B Darboe





Ebrima Sankareh advises Dr. Abdoulaye Saine





Karamba Touray advises Hon. Ousainou Darboe





Ndey Tapha-Sosseh advises Dr. Amadou Janneh





Committees





Finance/Fundraising Committee





International Campaign Committee





Diaspora/Homeland Unification Committee





Meetings, Protests and Demonstration Campaign Committee





Information and
 Education Committee (tv, radio, print and online media etc)





Gambia Crime Investigation Committee





Committee Heads





Banka Manneh-STGDP/CSAG





Alkali Conteh-GDAG





Pa Coach Samba Jow-DUGA





Fatou Jow Manneh





Saihou Mballow-MDD





Demba Dem-Netherland Group





Yankuba Darboe-lawyer





Advisers of Steering Committee





Sidi Sanneh





Mathew K Jallow





Nothing in the above proposal is set in stone. The form of the structure the campaign will take is dependent on the general consensus of all Gambians. To this effect, Gambians in the struggle are invited to sign up as members of the united Gambian organization the Gambia Consultative Council. Those interested in joining the broadest membership of Gambians organizations and individuals are encouraged to: [log in to unmask] attention
 Mathew K Jallow, Yusupha Jow or Fatou Sagnia.








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