Correction, meant to say the former provides policy which the latter implements such policies.

Thanks
Daffeh

On Monday, 8 July 2013, UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Again, I like to speak with facts. Almost all the parastatals in the Gambia today were created by the PPP. They did not just initiated the ideas, they went on to deliver on them as well. Gamtel was renowned as one of the best in west africa and was not brought to its current level by the PPP, GPTC was still serving the country well over 5yrs after jawara, central bank is still serving the purpose it was establised for, SSHFC is also still serving its purpose and beyond; GCAA outlived Jawara, tourism is now said to be the largest contributor to the GDP and was the second largest contributor under jawara etc etc .
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> The problem you seem to have is; you are blurring the line between the PPP as a government and civil/public service. They are two different things. Governments come and go while state institutions including the civil service remains to serve any government that may be elected into office. The latter's role is to  provide policy that the former must implement. Governments only take political responsibility, not the criminal liability of civil servants or public official.
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> Ok, I got to stop here. I am not PPP but UDP;and not for Sir DK Jawara or any of his ex-ministers but for Lawyer Ousainu Darboe and his party executive.
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> Thanks
> Daffeh
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> On Monday, 8 July 2013, Haruna <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> So I will take your words as fact. I do not need to verify them because I know you to tell the truth at all times.
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>> Therefore, what you regard as corruption was a list of people-to-hire sent over from VP Sabally's office.
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>> 1. Was the Control Tower outside the purview of the corporate office at the time?
>> 2. Who does the hiring for CA at that time?
>> 3. Did you bring the matter to the attention of an ombudsman or other office that is not within the purview of the VP's office or CA Corporate's.
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>> Haruna. Again, I will take your word for it and I do not need to ask anybody to verify.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Mon, Jul 8, 2013 2:49 pm
>> Subject: Re: A review of A WEEK OF HELL by Papa Faal
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>> Haruna, absolutely... I spoke so much against it that I was regarded as a rebel in the office... I eventually asked to be transferred out of the corporate office to the control tower... where it was purely professional and had nothing to do with any hiring or corporate bureaucracy... you may ask the people I used to work with at the office if you care to validate my points.  I was an admin in the office when literally a list of people to hire from the VP Sabally's office was handed over for hiring... Ask anyone who has worked in government institutions in Gambia and see what the hiring mechanism were... It was whom you know....
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>> Ramadan Mubarak
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>> Demba
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>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Haruna <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> Demba, I'm just curious, when you were at the civil aviation organization and it was corrupt to the bone, did you reveal the corruption or speak about it at all, or did you just go along with it for fear of losing your job (since you said it was also politically corrupt). Politically corrupt means the people who ran or worked at the CA were crooks, rogues, and perhaps criminals.
>> Haruna.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Mon, Jul 8, 2013 1:44 pm
>> Subject: Re: A review of A WEEK OF HELL by Papa Faal
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>> Daffeh, I would absolutely agree with you that some of these organizations got started during the PPP time, may be you and I are looking at institutions in different perspectives, I am not looking at the initiation of the ideas but strengthening and building independent viable institutions that will withstand the test of time... unfortunately, it is not enough to initiate and idea, they had the responsibility to build independent institutions free from the political machine... The judiciary certainly was  somewhat functioning but the institution itself was not built independent of the political machinery.... The Pakistani judiciary comes to mind when they flatly rejected Musarif's meddling with the supreme court... Those judges relying on the strength of the institution refused to bow down to government...
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>> The public transportation, the Parastatals you talked about existed - great ideas but they were infested with corruption to the bone... I was at the Gambia Civil Aviation as a new Semi - independent government entity but it was corrupted to the bone and was only a matter of time before it crumbled. Not a single week went by in Gambia without reading massive mismanagement of public funds and public corporations failing like dry moss... the Cooperative union, the Gambia commercial and Investment Bank (a creation of the Central bank), the GPMB, the GUC etc and etc were all created but functionally deficit.
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>> May be you were too young to understand what was going on or should I say you need to go back and read your historical facts about institutions in the Gambia... The excuse that when we obtained independence we did not have anything is a cheap and false excuse..  The very purpose of our independence was to take our country into something greater than just bringing together people within a geographical boundary and call it a country. I contest that our leaders taking our nation from the ruins of colonialism to independence with minimal progress is no excuse... a> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html
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