Sorry I meant to say "stalking".. apology...

Demba


On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Haruna, I know the words and these are just two over the years. I just
> don't see a lot of rationale over the obsession regardless of what the
> situation is. It is the persistence and years of relentless attack NOT on
> policy or substance but on the person that baffles many people...
>
> Imagine if I sit here every day parading all kinds of words against the
> person of Haruna even if you have not said a word once about me... Over
> time it becomes an obsession and gives no other explanation but hatred
> against you.... That's just my personal observation and I know it weighs
> less on Daffeh but at least thousands on this forum can bear me witness...
> It would be embarrassing to attack someone so much when you probably never
> met them and if you were to share a room with them or even work with them
> we cannot be completely ruled out as far as Gambia... In a court of law
> this might be rightfully called stocking or harassment as it is void of any
> policy disagreement.. Opp.. I will leave that to the legal minds and I
> stand to be corrected!
>
> Thanks
>
> Demba
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Haruna <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Demba, pugnacious narcissist is a strong adjective but it is not a
>> hateful one. It only sounds so. Like calling you a Pamplemousse. (: That is
>> the reason Hon. Halifa has not responded to Sonny. You remember Hon. Halifa
>> responded to the more severe challenge from our cousin Hon. Modou. And Hon.
>> Modou was not even hating................
>>
>>  Haruna.
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> From: Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Mon, Aug 5, 2013 8:20 pm
>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Rejected posting to [log in to unmask]
>>
>>  Daffeh,
>>
>>  I wonder if common sense and decency does not dictate that you really
>> reconsider your name callings in the person of Halifa? Do you ever feel any
>> remorse or guilty of attacking someone who you simply disagree with but
>> have so much hatred for as an individual; someone who has never responded
>> to you despite years of assault on his person?
>>
>>  Do you really sit down and ask yourself what has this man done to you
>> and your family? I can guarantee you the only thing that binds you with
>> Halifa is the accidental history of being born Gambian?
>>
>>  I am sure many people are asking the same questions. Halifa is sure old
>> enough to be your brother if not father. He has family and love ones like
>> you do. Certainly he is not the only one in PDOIS.. Sidia Jatta, Uncle Sam
>> Sarr, Swaibou Touray just to name a few. Why in the world is the assault
>> and hate about????
>>
>>  Please, please many of us hear disagree with Halifa but the daily
>> assault and name calling on someone who you probably never even shared a
>> room with much more have conversation with is just appalling. Common law
>> dictates that we treat others the way we want to be treated. I hope you
>> really think about this the impact of being ignored despite years of
>> assault...
>>
>>  Thanks
>>
>> Demba
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:46 PM, UDP United Kingdom <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Rene, of course I am not comparing myself with Halifa. I am only doing
>>> the contrast. Halifa is a pugnacious narcissist. So I will not compare
>>> myself with such a person.
>>>
>>> I now understand what you mean when you said Halifa has moved from his
>>> propaganda agenda. You mean he now realised that apart from his disciples
>>> like yourself, there are no fools around he can hoodwink with his
>>> untruthful statements, deceits and political glibs. I welcome that
>>> development. I hope he also realised that the UDP will not forgo the
>>> prudence and the legitimacy of a UDP led alliance just to accommodate his
>>> narcissism.
>>>
>>> I know nothing about propaganda for I am about facts,facts, and facts,
>>> and I shall remain determined to continue on that path regardless of the
>>> corrosive effect on your Ayatollah's standing which I understand, is much
>>> to your annoyance and discomfort.
>>>
>>> By the way, did you realised that Halifa have strained himself a lot in
>>> prosecuting his propaganda?? That was only because he has been throwing
>>> punches that were well above his political weight. No wonder he has changed
>>> course, according to yourself. Good for him.
>>>
>>> Owens is getting frustrated. So gonna have to cut it short right here.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Daffeh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 4 August 2013,  <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: rebadjan <[log in to unmask]>
>>> > To: gambial-l <[log in to unmask]>
>>> > Sent: Sun, Aug 4, 2013 6:27 am
>>> > Subject: Re: [G_L] Fwd: Rejected posting to
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> >
>>> > Daffeh, this is the height of folly for you to be comparing yourself
>>> to Halifa. On what basis? I will now have to take you for who you are.
>>> >  I wonder what camp you belong to. I also notice an interesting way
>>> about how you conduct your arguments, always short on substance but relying
>>> on the ambiguity of your word usage in your responses. Consider the word
>>> camp. Do you mean camp as to the political party you belong, or do you mean
>>> camp as to the intellectual class you belong.
>>> > More over, instead of challenging the postulations I made and deepen
>>> further the intellectual inquiry, you find it convenient to talk about
>>> something else. How then can I take you seriously?
>>> > Rene
>>> >
>>> >   -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]>
>>> > To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
>>> > Sent: Sun, Aug 4, 2013 4:26 am
>>> > Subject: Re: [G_L] Fwd: Rejected posting to
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> >
>>> > Rene, you do not belong to my camp and therefore, have no chance of
>>> setting an eye on any concept paper I may have developed. Unlike your
>>> Ayatollah, I am not a show man.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> > Daffeh
>>> >
>>> > On Saturday, 3 August 2013,  <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: LISTSERV <[log in to unmask]>
>>> >> To: rebadjan <[log in to unmask]>
>>> >> Sent: Sat, Aug 3, 2013 5:59 pm
>>> >> Subject: Rejected posting to [log in to unmask]
>>> >>
>>> >> Your posting to the GAMBIA-L list has been rejected by the content
>>> filter. Please correct the Subject Line and resubmit your message with
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>>> >> Attached Message
>>> >> From: [log in to unmask]
>>> >> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> >> Subject:
>>> >> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 17:59:14 -0400 (EDT)
>>> >> "Rene, I was not going to respond to you because you can't think for
>>> yourself. Nonetheless, can you kindly tell me when this so-called
>>> propaganda stage of Gambian politics started, when did it end and what was
>>> it all about??? . Your response will be highly appreciated as it will help
>>> me understand the heck you are on about"
>>> >>
>>> >> Daffeh, if you want to accuse me of not thinking for myself, I don't
>>> think you are in a better position either. I haven't read anything that you
>>> have thought for yourself. I haven't read any concept you have developed
>>> about the Gambian economy; any strategy you have formulated to resolve the
>>> contending issues of the Gambian political situation.
>>> >>
>>> >> I haven't read any original postulation you have made on any issue,
>>> more so issues that are relevant to the Gambian political discourse. Even
>>> the political party that you represent, I haven't read anything substantive
>>> that you have contributed to raise its political profile, neither is there
>>> anything substantive in terms of building the party's platform that can be
>>> attributed to you. So, saying that I do not think for myself is the
>>> classical case of the kettle calling the pot back.
>>> >>
>>> >> Now, when it comes to knowledge: there is a subjective knowledge base
>>> and there is an objective knowledge base. And there are fundamental
>>> principles that govern  the whole concept of knowledge. You find these
>>> principles in all disciplines and in all areas of knowledge. You do not
>>> have to be knowledgable about a discipline, but once you understand the
>>> principles that govern that dicipline you should be able to discourse in
>>> that dicipline. You can also conceptualize new ideas and formulate new
>>> thought processess. This is how people think for themselves.
>>> >>
>>> >> Propaganda has always been a phenomenal aspect of Gambian politics.
>>> And it is a tendency whereby politcians or their surrogates spread ideas or
>>> information to either further a cause or damage a cause. They can also
>>> spread ideas and allegations for the same purpose. The distingushing
>>> factors are whether the information spread is true or false and the cause
>>> damaged is genuine or not.
>>> >>
>>> >> Therefore propaganda can be used negatively to spread unfounded
>>> allegations; to tell lies repeatedly so that by telling it the more it will
>>> become the truth. It can be used negatively to assasinate someone's
>>> character or consistently deride someone's noble ideas in order to make it
>>> ignoble. Conversely, propaganda can be used positively to refute a lie; to
>>> challenge a postulation that is false and deceiving; and to advance a cause
>>> that is noble and genuine. The latter is the propaganda stage that is the
>>> genesis of the Gambian political struggle that started in the late
>>> eighties.
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