Sorry I meant to say "stalking".. apology... Demba On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Haruna, I know the words and these are just two over the years. I just > don't see a lot of rationale over the obsession regardless of what the > situation is. It is the persistence and years of relentless attack NOT on > policy or substance but on the person that baffles many people... > > Imagine if I sit here every day parading all kinds of words against the > person of Haruna even if you have not said a word once about me... Over > time it becomes an obsession and gives no other explanation but hatred > against you.... That's just my personal observation and I know it weighs > less on Daffeh but at least thousands on this forum can bear me witness... > It would be embarrassing to attack someone so much when you probably never > met them and if you were to share a room with them or even work with them > we cannot be completely ruled out as far as Gambia... In a court of law > this might be rightfully called stocking or harassment as it is void of any > policy disagreement.. Opp.. I will leave that to the legal minds and I > stand to be corrected! > > Thanks > > Demba > > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Haruna <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Demba, pugnacious narcissist is a strong adjective but it is not a >> hateful one. It only sounds so. Like calling you a Pamplemousse. (: That is >> the reason Hon. Halifa has not responded to Sonny. You remember Hon. Halifa >> responded to the more severe challenge from our cousin Hon. Modou. And Hon. >> Modou was not even hating................ >> >> Haruna. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> >> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]> >> Sent: Mon, Aug 5, 2013 8:20 pm >> Subject: Re: Fwd: Rejected posting to [log in to unmask] >> >> Daffeh, >> >> I wonder if common sense and decency does not dictate that you really >> reconsider your name callings in the person of Halifa? Do you ever feel any >> remorse or guilty of attacking someone who you simply disagree with but >> have so much hatred for as an individual; someone who has never responded >> to you despite years of assault on his person? >> >> Do you really sit down and ask yourself what has this man done to you >> and your family? I can guarantee you the only thing that binds you with >> Halifa is the accidental history of being born Gambian? >> >> I am sure many people are asking the same questions. Halifa is sure old >> enough to be your brother if not father. He has family and love ones like >> you do. Certainly he is not the only one in PDOIS.. Sidia Jatta, Uncle Sam >> Sarr, Swaibou Touray just to name a few. Why in the world is the assault >> and hate about???? >> >> Please, please many of us hear disagree with Halifa but the daily >> assault and name calling on someone who you probably never even shared a >> room with much more have conversation with is just appalling. Common law >> dictates that we treat others the way we want to be treated. I hope you >> really think about this the impact of being ignored despite years of >> assault... >> >> Thanks >> >> Demba >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:46 PM, UDP United Kingdom < >> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> Rene, of course I am not comparing myself with Halifa. I am only doing >>> the contrast. Halifa is a pugnacious narcissist. So I will not compare >>> myself with such a person. >>> >>> I now understand what you mean when you said Halifa has moved from his >>> propaganda agenda. You mean he now realised that apart from his disciples >>> like yourself, there are no fools around he can hoodwink with his >>> untruthful statements, deceits and political glibs. I welcome that >>> development. I hope he also realised that the UDP will not forgo the >>> prudence and the legitimacy of a UDP led alliance just to accommodate his >>> narcissism. >>> >>> I know nothing about propaganda for I am about facts,facts, and facts, >>> and I shall remain determined to continue on that path regardless of the >>> corrosive effect on your Ayatollah's standing which I understand, is much >>> to your annoyance and discomfort. >>> >>> By the way, did you realised that Halifa have strained himself a lot in >>> prosecuting his propaganda?? That was only because he has been throwing >>> punches that were well above his political weight. No wonder he has changed >>> course, according to yourself. Good for him. >>> >>> Owens is getting frustrated. So gonna have to cut it short right here. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Daffeh >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, 4 August 2013, <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: rebadjan <[log in to unmask]> >>> > To: gambial-l <[log in to unmask]> >>> > Sent: Sun, Aug 4, 2013 6:27 am >>> > Subject: Re: [G_L] Fwd: Rejected posting to >>> [log in to unmask] >>> > >>> > Daffeh, this is the height of folly for you to be comparing yourself >>> to Halifa. On what basis? I will now have to take you for who you are. >>> > I wonder what camp you belong to. I also notice an interesting way >>> about how you conduct your arguments, always short on substance but relying >>> on the ambiguity of your word usage in your responses. Consider the word >>> camp. Do you mean camp as to the political party you belong, or do you mean >>> camp as to the intellectual class you belong. >>> > More over, instead of challenging the postulations I made and deepen >>> further the intellectual inquiry, you find it convenient to talk about >>> something else. How then can I take you seriously? >>> > Rene >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]> >>> > To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]> >>> > Sent: Sun, Aug 4, 2013 4:26 am >>> > Subject: Re: [G_L] Fwd: Rejected posting to >>> [log in to unmask] >>> > >>> > Rene, you do not belong to my camp and therefore, have no chance of >>> setting an eye on any concept paper I may have developed. Unlike your >>> Ayatollah, I am not a show man. >>> > >>> > Thanks >>> > Daffeh >>> > >>> > On Saturday, 3 August 2013, <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: LISTSERV <[log in to unmask]> >>> >> To: rebadjan <[log in to unmask]> >>> >> Sent: Sat, Aug 3, 2013 5:59 pm >>> >> Subject: Rejected posting to [log in to unmask] >>> >> >>> >> Your posting to the GAMBIA-L list has been rejected by the content >>> filter. Please correct the Subject Line and resubmit your message with >>> >> >>> >> Attached Message >>> >> From: [log in to unmask] >>> >> To: [log in to unmask] >>> >> Subject: >>> >> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 17:59:14 -0400 (EDT) >>> >> "Rene, I was not going to respond to you because you can't think for >>> yourself. Nonetheless, can you kindly tell me when this so-called >>> propaganda stage of Gambian politics started, when did it end and what was >>> it all about??? . Your response will be highly appreciated as it will help >>> me understand the heck you are on about" >>> >> >>> >> Daffeh, if you want to accuse me of not thinking for myself, I don't >>> think you are in a better position either. I haven't read anything that you >>> have thought for yourself. I haven't read any concept you have developed >>> about the Gambian economy; any strategy you have formulated to resolve the >>> contending issues of the Gambian political situation. >>> >> >>> >> I haven't read any original postulation you have made on any issue, >>> more so issues that are relevant to the Gambian political discourse. Even >>> the political party that you represent, I haven't read anything substantive >>> that you have contributed to raise its political profile, neither is there >>> anything substantive in terms of building the party's platform that can be >>> attributed to you. So, saying that I do not think for myself is the >>> classical case of the kettle calling the pot back. >>> >> >>> >> Now, when it comes to knowledge: there is a subjective knowledge base >>> and there is an objective knowledge base. And there are fundamental >>> principles that govern the whole concept of knowledge. You find these >>> principles in all disciplines and in all areas of knowledge. You do not >>> have to be knowledgable about a discipline, but once you understand the >>> principles that govern that dicipline you should be able to discourse in >>> that dicipline. You can also conceptualize new ideas and formulate new >>> thought processess. This is how people think for themselves. >>> >> >>> >> Propaganda has always been a phenomenal aspect of Gambian politics. >>> And it is a tendency whereby politcians or their surrogates spread ideas or >>> information to either further a cause or damage a cause. They can also >>> spread ideas and allegations for the same purpose. The distingushing >>> factors are whether the information spread is true or false and the cause >>> damaged is genuine or not. >>> >> >>> >> Therefore propaganda can be used negatively to spread unfounded >>> allegations; to tell lies repeatedly so that by telling it the more it will >>> become the truth. It can be used negatively to assasinate someone's >>> character or consistently deride someone's noble ideas in order to make it >>> ignoble. Conversely, propaganda can be used positively to refute a lie; to >>> challenge a postulation that is false and deceiving; and to advance a cause >>> that is noble and genuine. The latter is the propaganda stage that is the >>> genesis of the Gambian political struggle that started in the late >>> eighties. >>> > いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい To >>> unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web >>> interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html >>> > >>> > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >>> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact >>> the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >>> [log in to unmask]いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい >>> いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい To >>> unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web >>> interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html >>> To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >>> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact >>> the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >>> [log in to unmask]いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *"Be the change you want to see in the World"* >> いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい To >> unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web >> interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html >> To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact >> the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >> [log in to unmask]いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい >> いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい To >> unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web >> interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html >> >> To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact >> the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >> [log in to unmask]いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい >> > > > > -- > *"Be the change you want to see in the World"* > -- *"Be the change you want to see in the World"* いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい