That's really funny [?]...sorry for the pain.. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > Idiot! > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Hey! I got some serious work to do... so am moving on and not wasting my >> time.. Thanks for the distraction but I will be reading and watching..now >> you can go hang yourselves. Am out! >> >> Demba >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>wrote: >> >>> Demba, >>> >>> *IF THERE IS ANY NEED FOR SOMEONE LOOKING PROPERLY IN THE MIRROR, DAMN >>> IT IS YOU. YOU CLAIM TO BE LOOKING, YET IT SEEMS YOU ARE SEEING SOMETHING >>> DIFFERENT OR MAYBE YOU ARE ENJOYING YOUR SELF ADULATION. NONSENSE. WHAT A >>> DRAG!* >>> >>> Mboge >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> Joe, my problem is no bigger than yours. My sermon to Daffeh could >>>> actually benefit you as well and many of us... You personally seems to be >>>> the one always in the right going after every Tom Dick and Harry on matters >>>> of morality and righteousness... All that glitter is not goal (mirror)... >>>> >>>> My point has always been what we need more of are ideas and >>>> collaborations on how we get the heck out of the situation we are in... >>>> blaming people and beating every issue to dead makes good forum >>>> entertainment and perhaps relieves egos and being boxed in... but it >>>> doesn't take us anywhere... It was Joe on Imam Baba Leigh, it was Joe on >>>> the Opposition, it was Joe on the Lawyers, it was Joe on PhDs and just >>>> everywhere...You make good entertainment but not helping advance >>>> anything.... What is needed more from a highly pure person like you is >>>> ideas on how we move forward... Mark you everything we have done before did >>>> not get the job done... so no lectures on retirement...too soon.. >>>> >>>> Bottom line, you have been pettier than anybody on this forum to the >>>> extend of getting into nasty exchanges with young ones you can mentor... >>>> Enough of the blame game, let's focus on the task at hand and also realize >>>> we too are human thus the mirror... let's face the reality with ideas and >>>> solutions... Thanks >>>> >>>> Demba >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:59 AM, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Demba >>>>> It seems you forgot about the mantra of the proverbial preacher. The >>>>> key starting point is 'I myself is included in everything I say' Hence, us >>>>> here are the Gambia's educated, we are a portion of the lot. This means, we >>>>> are including ourselves in every single conversation. On the subject of Drs >>>>> and PhDs, not to sound dismissive, I agree with the notions flying around. >>>>> They are folks who have specialised, tailored their academic interested, >>>>> albeit deeper in a niche area. So in that case, they are not Jack of all >>>>> trade, they are jerk of a trade. >>>>> I guess, because few of our folks focus on a line of education, we >>>>> make them a big deal, but seriously, it doesn't change people... >>>>> >>>>> The greater burden is on the masses..Thanks >>>>> Suntou >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Interesting... well, now that we dealt with everybody from the PhD's; >>>>>> Imams to the street beggars; it is about time we look in the mirror and >>>>>> deal with ourselves... Just saying... >>>>>> >>>>>> Eid Mubarak in advance... >>>>>> >>>>>> Demba >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Khaleel, thanks for your response and clarification. That was my >>>>>>> take and since you reiterated that, that is not where you were headed, that >>>>>>> is sufficient for me. Now, you have been around and know that we have dealt >>>>>>> with the Supreme Islamic Council, BAR Association, opposition leaders, >>>>>>> Priests, Village Heads, and I can go on and on and the who is who in >>>>>>> Gambian society. So, it baffles me that with all that background you will >>>>>>> think that only a few PhDs are put on the chopping block or to bear our >>>>>>> weight. We cannot talk about all of them in one sitting, but nonetheless, >>>>>>> we shall discuss all those found wanting and in time. Unfortunately, ours >>>>>>> is like trying to fill a basket with water - there are too many of such >>>>>>> characters to last us a lifetime, but it is a fight we must continue as we >>>>>>> fight to take back Gambia. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joe >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 19:45:58 -0400 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: [log in to unmask] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [G_L] Khaleel and co under attack: Gambian Drs and PhD >>>>>>> holders not the solution then: Who is David Bansama >>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joe, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are absolutely entitled to your opinion especially your >>>>>>> interpretation of any literature. I read what David wrote and you read it >>>>>>> as well. It is not uncommon for both of us to come to a different >>>>>>> conclusion. I understand the issues you have with them and I share some of >>>>>>> your sentiments. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is wrong by any measure for anyone to chase fame and fortune >>>>>>> while sacrificing personal courage, integrity and basic human decency and >>>>>>> then turn around to attempt to lead a crusade against someone you decided >>>>>>> to get cozy with and serve. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My conscience cannot let me condone to that but we can't make a >>>>>>> mistake though, to narrow that conversation to a few PHD/DR holders “so >>>>>>> called intellectuals” in our society. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are many things wrong in our society and a whole lot of people >>>>>>> are contributing to what is wrong in the Gambia, a lot more than the few >>>>>>> so-called intellectuals. That doesn’t make it ok by any means for >>>>>>> them to add salt to the wound either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How many positions are in Yaya’s government? Compare that to the few >>>>>>> held by these PHD/DRs and you will have a lot more positions left filled by >>>>>>> our brothers and sisters. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joe I am not in the business of defending a grown man/woman who can >>>>>>> do that better for themselves. I gain nothing from that brother. I write >>>>>>> and speak with conviction just like you and I am not too big to render >>>>>>> apology when I am wrong. Please read my posting earlier today in response >>>>>>> to David. Below is an extract from his article we are talking about: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “He did not think of the average man who sees him and his Ph. D as a >>>>>>> savior. He let them down. He did not see the poor farmer in Njain Sanjal, >>>>>>> Badibu, Niumi, Jarra and Kiang looking up to them (the intellectuals/ >>>>>>> *Borom Hamham yi*) to save our small Gambia from the disaster it >>>>>>> has already slid into. *Our intellectuals indeed!!!”.* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am not in the business of endorsing people or provide them lukewarm >>>>>>> excuses but I respect people for their views and opinions. I wrote >>>>>>> about this particular article exactly how I understood it. I follow your >>>>>>> postings here and I know you are a very opinionated person, a quality we >>>>>>> share. I guess we will just have a difference in opinion on this one. Stay >>>>>>> blessed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Khaleel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 17:25:36 -0500 >>>>>>> From: [log in to unmask] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [G_L] Khaleel and co under attack: Gambian Drs and PhD >>>>>>> holders not the solution then: Who is David Bansama >>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Khaleel, I think there is a slight difference between the gist of >>>>>>> your write-up against what David said with respect to expectations we have >>>>>>> regarding PhDs. None is giving them one more pond of any load to carry much >>>>>>> more total responsibility of our burden. Myissue with these guys is they >>>>>>> sold their soul, got kicked out, and then have the nerve to portray >>>>>>> themselves as our libertors, to which some of us told them to get lost. How >>>>>>> is that expecting them to shoulder our responsibility? We are dwelling on >>>>>>> the behavior of these guys for their attempts on us and the lies they carry >>>>>>> with them. The issue is not whether they are human and circumstance, but >>>>>>> talking about their character and behavior just like we do daily with Yaya. >>>>>>> There are no sacred cows here and if there are any left then a notice is >>>>>>> being served, for we will expose them. Your main gist is what threw me a >>>>>>> curve ball, because it can be viewed as a lukewarm defense or left hand >>>>>>> endorsement of some of these characters. That may not have been your >>>>>>> intent, but that is how it came across to me in the main. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joe >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:38:15 -0400 >>>>>>> From: [log in to unmask] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [G_L] Khaleel and co under attack: Gambian Drs and PhD >>>>>>> holders not the solution then: Who is David Bansama >>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Sountou for sharing yet another piece from David. I know >>>>>>> David is reading, below is my response: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for taking the time out whether to elaborate more on your >>>>>>> points or to repeat/clarify points previously made that I obviously missed. >>>>>>> I still stand by what my interpretation of your article was and I am >>>>>>> certain you will do the same as well. Words have meanings and meanings can >>>>>>> be flexible at times depending on who is reading or writing. To me, your >>>>>>> list associated those individuals to a high degree of responsibility or >>>>>>> lack of to our national development. While you, the readers and I may have >>>>>>> some minor differences on use of words, concept and interpretation which >>>>>>> won’t go away, I will like to focus on what we agree on if that’s ok with >>>>>>> you. >>>>>>> I think we are saying the same thing here for the most part David. >>>>>>> We both don’t expect the PHD/DRs to be the agent of change in our country; >>>>>>> we both agree that given their intellectual capacity, they should play a >>>>>>> role worthy of emulation in this time of despair. We also agree that the >>>>>>> responsibility of our nation building rests in the hands of many not few. >>>>>>> These are pretty significant things we agree on and I pray that >>>>>>> our deeds match our words for the most rather than the few who will >>>>>>> shoulder this crusade to lead our nation in the near future. I also pray >>>>>>> for all of us to be steadfast, humble, respect one another and reason well >>>>>>> with each other. I look forward to reading more from you. Have a blessed >>>>>>> day and happy eid in advance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Khaleel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:15:29 +0100 >>>>>>> From: [log in to unmask] >>>>>>> Subject: [G_L] Khaleel and co under attack: Gambian Drs and PhD >>>>>>> holders not the solution then: Who is David Bansama >>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gambian intellectuals Are Not Agents of Change >>>>>>> <http://kibaaro.com/gambian-intellectuals-are-not-agents-of-change/> >>>>>>> Reads :274 >>>>>>> *OURS IS A CRUSADE TO CLEANSE* *OUR SOCIETY OF THESE PARASITES >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *By David Bansama* >>>>>>> *“David is over stretching their role……. The expectation that less >>>>>>> than one percent of our population should shoulder the responsibility to >>>>>>> lead and effect change because they attained the highest level of education >>>>>>> is not real” – Says Khaleel Jameel on Gambia L* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When I wrote my piece last week, I knew (and expected) it would >>>>>>> generate a lot of discourse because it is not the norm (to talk in less >>>>>>> favourable terms about people held in reverence) in our milieu. What I did >>>>>>> not expect, however, was an attempt (whether by design or default) to infer >>>>>>> meanings into my piece which I have not inferred. Thank God, I am still >>>>>>> alive, I will go back to re-iterate my position. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Learning from history, I have never expected the Gambian Ph. Ds (or >>>>>>> intellectuals) to be the agents of change in our country (even though they >>>>>>> can) and I have never expected them to “shoulder the responsibility”. We >>>>>>> learnt from history that in societies where change was effected, it was >>>>>>> usually the common man who took the lead. For instance, the popular French >>>>>>> Revolution was led by the common man; the American war of Independence was >>>>>>> not led by the Ph.Ds; the Russian revolt against the Czars was led by the >>>>>>> common man; coming home, one of the Fathers of Gambia’s Independence, Sir >>>>>>> Dawda Jawara; was first identified and chosen by the common man to >>>>>>> represent them. Even at that, he hesitated and contemplated possible >>>>>>> financial losses especially as a family man (stated by Sir Dawda in his own >>>>>>> book). Some of the members that attended the Marlborough Conference to >>>>>>> discuss Gambia’s independence were barely literate. In recent times, the >>>>>>> change that Brazil, one of the emerging markets (BRICS), is experiencing >>>>>>> was initiated by Lula Da Silva who is not a Ph.D but a common Trade >>>>>>> Unionist from the masses; Hugo Chavez (despite Western vilification) >>>>>>> brought immense changes to his country for the common man and he did it >>>>>>> without attaining a Ph.D. The man that everybody loves (Nelson Mandela) >>>>>>> changed the course of history in South Africa without attaining a Ph. D. >>>>>>> Likewise, all the Gambian Liberation Movements (as numerous as they are) >>>>>>> were not initiated by Gambian Ph.Ds. Please correct me if I am wrong. These >>>>>>> “intellectuals” are usually the comfortable lot who like lording it over >>>>>>> the rest after the battle had been fought and won. Let me just give a >>>>>>> casual example here: isn’t it interesting to see on Maafanta, the FB >>>>>>> exchanges between our former Honourable Foreign Minister, Sidi Sanneh, who >>>>>>> did not attend the events in Raleigh and Stockholm but wants quick results >>>>>>> (in terms of reports) and is so brazen about it? He even trivializes the >>>>>>> matter rather unwittingly (just like he did with Yahya Jammeh’s underpants) >>>>>>> by zooming on the latest gadgets brought to the meetings, interestingly >>>>>>> putting it in this rather de-meaning fashion “…*I did not attend >>>>>>> either of the meetings but I was told about the fancy gadgets”.*Isn’t >>>>>>> this cheap and petty for Sidi himself? Where were his brain and conscience >>>>>>> at the time of penning this particular line? When I read it, I was tempted >>>>>>> to ask: Was it gadgets that concerned you most about the meetings or the >>>>>>> substance? How trivial and petty could one be? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Having said the above, what I (and the majority of the >>>>>>> poverty-stricken Gambians) do not, however, expect from our Ph.Ds and other >>>>>>> “intellectuals” is *the aiding and abetting of the current Gambian >>>>>>> dictatorship in brutalising our people because of their own selfish interest >>>>>>> *. By the way, do you know there are some of these “intellectuals” >>>>>>> who still clandestinely work with the Dictatorship in Banjul even after >>>>>>> Jammeh had shown them the way out in the most cavalier manner? We have >>>>>>> full dossiers on most of them and, at the opportune time, will share it >>>>>>> with the rest of our compatriots to buttress our point on how cheap but >>>>>>> dangerous some of our “intellectuals” can be. It is not a threat. *Ours >>>>>>> is a crusade in which we are determined to cleanse our society of these >>>>>>> parasites*. All of the people I mentioned in my write-up joined the >>>>>>> regime after Gambians have seen enough PHYSICAL EVIDENCE OF JAMMEH’s >>>>>>> BRUTALITY. What more lessons did they need to understand that Jammeh is >>>>>>> deranged and derailed, and therefore did not mean well for our people? With >>>>>>> their supposed exposure and level of “education”, they ought to have known >>>>>>> better. This was the thrust of my message and I thought it was crystal >>>>>>> clear to even the most casual reader. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now flipping the debate in Khaleel’s way, even if we assumed “less >>>>>>> than one percent of our population should shoulder the responsibility to >>>>>>> lead and effect change because they attained the highest level of >>>>>>> education”, this cannot still be considered an “over-stretching” of their >>>>>>> role, especially if we take education as a means to better our societies. >>>>>>> This is aptly conveyed to you at the point of getting your degrees for it >>>>>>> is said you have been found “*worthy in learning and character*” to >>>>>>> be conferred a Bachelors, Masters or a Ph.D. as the case may be. I believe, >>>>>>> 50 Gambian PH.Ds (less than one percent of the Gambian population but with >>>>>>> the right mindset and strength of character) selflessly working together, >>>>>>> can bring immense benefit to our people. It is all about honesty, >>>>>>> principles and patriotism (not the narrow and twisted definition as coined >>>>>>> by our Professor in Banjul). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With regards to the rest of what Khaleel said and emphasised “*Let’s >>>>>>> not forget that these PHD/Doctorate holders are Gambians, they are packed >>>>>>> with all flaws each and every Gambian of us has*”, I have already >>>>>>> belaboured on this fact in both my opening and concluding paragraphs, so I >>>>>>> need not repeat that. 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