Mboge, the hypocrisy from some of these folks is hard to ignore sometimes. Wanting others to do what they will never thin of doing as you reminded them is the highest level of hypocrisy. Some of them here quietly go to holidays in the Gambia and remain numb there until they fly out and come here to make noise. I have written and done things while in the Gambia that none of the noisiest here dare to do out there and they want us to believe that they love the Gambia more than all of us. No one hold's the pass here, we are all equal that is why our voices will always be heard. Nyang On Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:24 AM, Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Musa Jeng, > > >It was good to see even though it was on a very sad occasion. > > >On your rant about PDOIS' alleged appeasement, I think you are over reacting and necessarily exposing your biases, inter alia. >Just because Foroyaa cautions us about not falling into anarchy, and advising us to pursue our objectives legally, lest we become like those we criticize, does not make them appeasers. The diaspora are not perfect and accepting criticism gracefully, should be welcome and even solicited rather than scorn and being distasteful at those who criticize us. >PDOIS gave it's reasons for not coming to Raleigh and those should be accepted as principle, as they centred on the same OJ is giving now as he tries to leave that committee. You should agree to be disagreeable but please respect each other and if you do not want to be criticized, please leave political discussions alone. > > >Kejau > > > > > >________________________________ >Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 03:02:41 +0000 >From: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: [G_L] Foroyaa Editorial on Gambian Diaspora activism: BRAIN AND NOT EMOTION IS THE KEY TO LEADEFRSHIP AND SUCCESS >To: [log in to unmask] > > >"The young of today should not be robots and marionettes in the hands of people who drive them into political adventurism that is full of noise and fury, but ends up as a hollow or empty enterprise leading to no fruitful gain. They should be partners to those who wish to empower the people through necessary and viable means appeaseso that they could take full ownership of the Country and make it a bastion of liberty, dignity and prosperity.The young in the Diaspora should understand that in International Law states and not personalities are recognised. Hence those who control state power become the legitimate authority for a state." > >The above is one of the statements that really tells the story of how the PDOIS protagonists are really missing their way, and reinforced pettiness that is beyond them. For the last nineteen years, it seems the PDOIS advocates continue to demonstrate the Chamberlain trait of appeasement, and somehow their only answer to our aspiration to fight for democracy is reduce to one solution: educating the people. Gambians are well aware of their situation, and frankly are waiting for folks with spine who are ready to rescue our country from the hand of a criminal. Jammeh is in charge of state power through intimidation, violence, violating the constitution at every turn, and ultimately his willingness to use violence. The big Elephant in the room is how do you bring and make the Gambia the bastion of liberty, dignity and prosperity as alluded in the editorial, when Jammeh is holding an entire country hostage through violence and intimidation. Frankly, history has shown us that appeasement will only embolden tyrants, and the only way our country will be ever be rescued is to change the tactic we have used for the last nineteen years > >It is an insult to DUGA to even suggest that this was put together as some sort of emotional reaction, and really how did the editorial come to that conclusion. Operation "Mbor Mbor" was not an emotional reaction, and has been in the making for some time. The people that were involved are not interested in seeking attention, and are committed Gambians who decided to take the fight for the liberation of our country with a different tactic. > >One thing that has become a pattern from the PDOIS advocates is their unwillingness to be part of a collective effort to confront Jammeh, and pursue a change agenda, especially if the initiative comes from the Diaspora. Nobody will doubt the commitment and desire from the Diaspora to bring change to the shores of the Gambia. It was the Diaspora that launched NADD, its very framework was initiated in Atlanta. The Diaspora continues to find ways that will brting the entire opposition can come together and confront the Jammeh autocracy. Even a simple suggestion to convince the opposition to tour the country together and expose the Jammeh autocracy is a tall order for them, especially from the PDOIS side. It was just few month ago that the Raleigh initiative was launched, and most of the opposition parties made it to Raleigh, except of course the PDOIS group. It is indeed becoming evident that PDOIS is not interested in the change agenda that does not have the PDOIS prescription, and the suggestion that they are even willing to maintain the present status quo as long as it is not the PDOIS change agenda is beginning to have legs. > > > >________________________________ > >From: "Demba Baldeh" <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 8:56:19 PM >Subject: [G_L] Foroyaa Editorial on Gambian Diaspora activism: BRAIN AND NOT EMOTION IS THE KEY TO LEADEFRSHIP AND SUCCESS > > > > http://foroyaa.gm/editorial/14337-the-diaspora-should-go-back-to-the-drawing-board > > >Copied and Pasted below: wow! > >Editorial > > >THE DIASPORA SHOULD GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD >Published on Friday, 11 October 2013 19:49 | Written by Ousman Njie >BRAIN AND NOT EMOTION IS THE KEY TO LEADEFRSHIP AND SUCCESS >Means that distance oneself from the achievement of ends are ill conceived. Martin Luther King marched to Washington to prick the conscience of a Nation that is still remembering his immortal words.He did not go to Washington to take over the White House or the Congress. If the Gambia is to have a future, the children of Independence must have greater clarity, maturity and tact than those who were born during the colonial period. > > >The young of today should not be robots and marionettes in the hands of people who drive them into political adventurism that is full of noise and fury, but ends up as a hollow or empty enterprise leading to no fruitful gain. They should be partners to those who wish to empower the people through necessary and viable means so that they could take full ownership of the Country and make it a bastion of liberty, dignity and prosperity.The young in the Diaspora should understand that in International Law states and not personalities are recognised. Hence those who control state power become the legitimate authority for a state. > > >This is why the Syrian Foreign Minister could go to the US and address the UN even though all types of adjectives and superlatives were being used to describe his President as a war criminal. Gambian youth should not hear attacks of the West and immediately conclude that their actions against Gambian officials would be tolerated by those governments. These attacks become significant only if they lead to break in relations. Many Governments have come to realise that Heads of state of small countries do sometimes make noises just to win attention and ease pressure, if they are under pressure. >Hence in many cases; they do not isolate them, they just give more carrots and then continue to exercise influence on them to conform to international norms. Hence, the Gambian people should not be disappointed when they see a foreign Government maintain relation with the Gambia government after being attacked. Governments know how to handle each other without coming out in the open.Needless to say, a Government should also avoid inflammatory rhetoric that radicalise those who are quick to be infuriated and driven to rash actions that they may live to regret later. > > >Gambians should focus on each other and engage in the most important debate of our time on the future of the country. We must put emotion aside and rely on clarity of vision to shape the best way forward. 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