Thanks Rene. Am beginning to believe that we can effectively work to effect change without having a single united group. In fact it is becoming clear by the day that we will not be able to achieve a united front as far as the Diaspora and even the opposition.
 
What I think we should be doing is strengthening existing groups and work in collaboration on areas that will force change in our political discourse. The same process could be effective for the political parties on the ground. Since ideologically they cannot combine their units as the default NADD, they can work towards the same goals; that is forcing the IEC to the table for electoral reform, speak in the same language and stance against the dictator and his efforts to sideline them in using the media and organizing political rallies.
 
If they speak, act and stand on the same principles for change, they will be an effective force. Once reform is achieve to some degree then individual groups that can work together can form their coalition and contest elections base on their merits. Even in Senegal they did not have a complete united front. It was the most influential and powerful that came together to force change. So the kind of unity we are advocating is really far fetch in my opinion. Just my two cents.
 
Have a great day

Demba


On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:14 AM, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Thanks for your thoughts Rene, and I agree entirely

Creating any form of united front, whether at the political party level, or the Diaspora civil society groupings level, remains a challenge. Almost half the ambassadors of CORDEG are right here reading you. I hope your cogent recommendations are incorporated in CORDEG's deliberations.


LJDarbo


On Sunday, 9 February 2014, 23:54, "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
  Lamin,
            Given recent developments with regards to the Gambian 
diaspora in an attempt to organize and create a structure that can 
respond to the challenging political issues in the Gambia, I would like 
to reiterate certain points that can be fundamental to this effort.

First, the organization and structure of any Diaspora response to the 
political challenges in the Gambia must be in the capacity of a Civil 
Society Organization, whose function is to compliment the efforts of the 
political parties on the ground, as well as help to guide a political 
discourse that will foster understanding and greater cooperation between 
the political parties.

To this end, political parties should not be part of any Diaspora 
structure, since the role of political parties and Civil Society 
Organizations are complimentary, and each have their functions within 
the political infrastructure and democratic dispensation. They can 
compliment each other but cannot be part of each other. The functions of 
Civil Society Organizations should be more encompassing, deliberative 
and engaging, and should be impartial and non conforming to any partisan 
considerations.

In view of the above, any apex Diaspora entity that seek to represent 
the interest and aspirations of the wider and diverse diaspora 
community, must continue to reach out, include and maintain groups and 
individuals in an effort to consolidate a genuine and credible diaspora 
representation.

Since CORDEG has emerged to position itself to garner the credibility to 
represent the diverse interest and aspirations of the diaspora 
community,  this must be reflected in the composition and diversity of 
its organizational structure. To continue with this evolving process:

1. I would urge the group to first and foremost divorce all political 
parties from its governing and organizational structure. The group 
should purposefully serve as a Civil Society Organization. And as far as 
political parties are concerned it should serve an intermediary role in 
helping to create consensus and the enabling environment that can foster 
greater unity and dialogue.

2. It should help to bring all the political parties back to the "Group 
of Six" or whatever the number is, and use that platform to guide a 
national approach to all opposition issues and challenges.

3. It should strive to reconcile the vexing issues with other groups 
with respect to an overall apex Diaspora group representation, with the 
ultimate objective of having one entity and one voice that represents 
the interest and aspirations of the diaspora community.

These are some of my thoughts on this issue.


Rene




-----Original Message-----
From: Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 2:50 am
Subject: Re: [G_L] LJD on CORDEG

Burama

I am following your thoughts on the way forward for Gambian public life, 
and as to what should replace Professor Jammeh, you and I and almost all 
our colleagues here and elsewhere appear to be on the same page. I am in 
no doubt a devoted united opposition front can eject the Professor from 
power. My understanding was that STGDP thought so too, and it was so 
engaged  from as far back as 2003 or thereabouts.


Below are extracts from a piece entitled "A Case for Coalition"  in 
2004. We didn't have a coalition for 2006 but I was told my views 
mirrored those of the principal unity broker of the day, STGDP


****You and I are on the same page here:


"...We entertain nonaivety that hammering a coalition would not present 
special problems ofintense agony. That notwithstanding, we firmly 
believe that those who aspire todirect the destiny of a nation must be 
mature and pragmatic enough toappreciate and navigate the bottlenecks 
inherent to a project of such giganticand critical import. Trapped as we 
are under a totalitarian dictatorship in anation without viable 
institutions, your challenge is akin to that of America’sfounding 
fathers, those architects of statehood who carved the world’s 
mostdistinguished jurisdiction out of extremely acute conditions. Their 
enduringlegacy is not the phenomenal and extraordinary material 
prosperity of theUnited States, but the creation of a nation of laws, 
and a land of liberty..."






****Our distinguished GON Editor and interviewer Demba Baldeh and I are 
on the same page here because he likes to peep into the thoughts of 
those he calls "subject matter experts". In  "A Case for Coalition", I 
referred to them as "sector-based knowledgeable Gambians". Same thing I 
think
 
"... We challengeyou to think through your election agenda and market 
your manifesto to a peopleripe for persuasion. The suffering majority of 
Gambians are solidly in theopposition camp, and that gain must be 
maintained and nurtured over the next 24months. To assume that 
conditions of general hardship and insecuritymeans  your mission is 
universally appreciated will constitute amonumental misjudgement. As 
part of a manifesto preparation, it may beadvisable to consult 
sector-based knowledgeable Gambians on their visionregarding some key 
aspects of our national life: education; agriculture;health; trade; 
public works; local government; tourism; and the judiciary..."






****And finally I share the extract below with STGDP and those persuaded 
that a fully united front can do the job
 
 
".... As the political temperature inthe country rises over this year 
and next – and it must definitely will – andas the heat pervades Jammehs 
several abodes, it is not inconceivable for thetyrant to put out feelers 
for vacating office in exchange for immunity fromprosecution. In that 
eventuality, it is incumbent upon you as national leadersto take a 
longer and broader view of state security and act accordingly. Youneed 
not fret over the despot’s crimes once he is ready to head for exile.
 
If, on theother hand, his rantings are anything to go by, the road to 
2006 will bringtragedy and sorrow to a people battered by official 
criminality in public life.As the struggle to liberate The Gambia enters 
its most critical phase, yourrole as party and coalition leaders may 
expose you to ultimate danger. You musttherefore educate the people on 
the strategy of mass demonstrations as a potentmethod of political 
dialogue should government embarked on lawlessness andextra judicial 
killings in the run up to the election.


To state incategorical terms, once a coalition party leader is killed, 
the people mustcome out in their hundreds of thousands to neutralise the 
thuggish securityforces and drive Dr Jammeh and his oppressive regime 
out of power. This mustconstitute the key strategic alternative to the 
election itself. Countries suchas Romania, Serbia, Georgia, and Haiti 
are eminent forerunners in this genrefor political change. Their people 
countered executive lawlessness and ejectedtheir brutal and yet cowardly 
dictators by the sheer force of their numbers.The Gambia is ripe for 
such a revolution in light of the extra judicialkillings, the arson 
attacks, widespread economic hardship, and general statecriminality 
which are made routine features of our national life by Dr Jammehand his 
thugs..."


****I think your ideas are quite attractive Burama, but many may view 
them as too deliberative and time is clearly not on our side. Your 
methodology may give too much time to your Jammeh brother when the hurt 
is approaching near unbearable. I hope you are not buying time for him. 
How much was your fee? Just kidding!








LJDarbo
 

        On Saturday, 8 February 2014, 10:08, Burama Jammeh 
&lt;[log in to unmask]&gt; wrote:
  Mr. Darbo
Thanks!

Not claiming any ownership. You’re so far the closest to the diagnoses I 
have made and arguing on for sometimes. 

However were we still differ is you seem to think a united opposition 
can defeat Yahya while I don’t think so. He will still use the “
all-means” to so-call defeat them. 

Here I suggested amassing “Political Leverage" through some 
organization(s) of Gambians that will forced Yahya to a political 
negotiation at a table where things like constitutional reforms, 
electoral laws and management reforms, governance 
rearrangement/decentralization, etc - (i.e. A Democratic Republic Agenda 
and not the narrow election for new president). This is neither easy 
and/or short term undertaking but very practical and did not overly put 
any citizen in the cross-fires of the dictator. More importantly we can 
all play a role based on our expertise and as well deem by our 
compatriots (no out sourcing of the solution while one is under safe 
shelters in UK and/or USA).

Again I may have been clumsy with my language but I am also not 
impressed with the level organization of political parties and/or 
leaders but I never faulted them our failures as if i their problem than 
mine or any other Gambia. In fact most of them have already paid a heavy 
price that I did not.

Bro…………………say it louder…..and keep repeating it!

Good signs in this exchange and my hope is this crowd grow&gt;

Regards

Burama 

 On Feb 8, 2014, at 2:41 AM, Lamin Darbo 
&lt;[log in to unmask]&gt; wrote:
Thanks guys for your thoughtful reactions

As for Karim, I think you answered your own query. In The Gambia, what 
we have is not governance but brutal power play. As they say, no 
politician presides over his own destruction and in a free and fair 
contest, Karim can defeat the Professor with only a month of unfettered 
campaigning. The point is that there will be no "widening of democratic 
space such as electoral reforms,  constitution reforms including 
independent and transparent IEC" as long as Professor Jammeh remains 
President. I think you answered your foregoing by accurately stating 
that "the dictator have control all means", including all the police 
power of the state.

As for "mass demonstrations", the reality can paralyse even those 
Gambians with the bravest personal constitution. The Gambia is not the 
USA, not the UK, not any Western European country. The Professor is 
Assad, Mubarak, Ghadaffi and rulers of that ilk, meaning he will counter 
"demonstrators with life bullets". We are therefore faced with the mouse 
community's dilemma of who to "bell the cat". Herein the reason why I do 
not refer to those on the ground as cowards.

As far as I am concerned, my only issue with the opposition leadership 
is the failure to craft a united front, and that is why my advocacy is 
so restricted. Unless I am personally on the ground, I won't call anyone 
a coward. I won't even insinuate it from the safer shores of the UK. A 
proper united front can take on the Professor and win, electorally, and 
even on the streets.


LJDarbo  
        On Saturday, 8 February 2014, 2:40, dbaldeh 
&lt;[log in to unmask]&gt; wrote:
  I think CORDEG can only blame itself for the leak. In a 24hr news 
cycle you can only sit on information for so long. Even the Whitehouse 
does have leaks! Infornation sharing is definitely one area CORDEG needs 
to improve. 

On LJD's concerns they need to take heed as well. There is a high risk 
of failure when a body like CORDEG's success and mode of operation is 
associated with an individual leadership. We Gambians tend to wash our 
hands off an organization once a leader is selected. This put 
unrealistic expectation on the leader.  Am certain if highly competent 
people  like Dr. Saine is given the support his committee needs he can 
craft policies and programs that can yield incredible results for our 
struggle. 

The fear of CORDEG becoming a dominant political force has been 
expressed by some members of the opposition as Lamin alluded to. It is 
therefore critical that CORDEG's neutral stand and policy objectives be 
spelled out clearly as a broker and mobilizer of Diaspora Gambians to 
gather resources and support a politically viable force. They have to 
overcome some of the mistrust from the opposition leadership if they are 
to be effective as a mobilizing force.

Thanks

Demba


From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.

  -------- Original message --------From: Musa Jeng 
&lt;[log in to unmask]&gt; Date: 02/07/2014  5:47 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: 
[log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [G_L] LJD on CORDEG  A very 
important distinction, and will allay whatever fears the opposition has 
as correctly highlighted in Lamin's piece.
Thank you Kejau

From: "kejau" &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;To: 
[log in to unmask]: Friday, February 7, 2014 8:21:05 
AMSubject: Re: [G_L] LJD on CORDEG
Thanks Yero.

LJD is erudite as usual. Always a pleasure to read. 
CORDEG is not declaring a leader of the diapora struggle, though, but 
only a chairperson of the executive of the committee.  The leak was also 
not as a result of cronyism at least not of cordeg but by a mole and it 
was condemned by members as peemature and unfortunate.  
Cordeg infact has not concluded the voting process as such hence the 
release was regretable and unprofessional.  
Be rest assured your concerns will be taken on board and are infact the 
xoncrrns


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-------- Original message --------From: abdoukarim sanneh 
&lt;[log in to unmask]&gt; Date: 07/02/2014 09:55 (GMT+01:00) 
To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [G_L] LJD on CORDEG Yero 
thanks for sharing the piece.  It is a good observation and the points 
raised are open for debate.  My question to Lamin is how long can the 
diaspora organisations continue to facilitate the political process and 
in our case is it working for us? Lamin is talking about the opposition 
in the ground but have they put any strategies which making impact for 
widing democratic space such as electoral reforms,  constitution reforms 
including independent and transparent IEC? Are the political parties 
even democratic?  Are they not existing by names? I have not been 
following CORDEG and others of recently but ineffective opposition 
politics is the case the emergence of types of civil organisations. We 
have opposition politicians who form parties and want to be leaders but 
the dictator have control all means for.  They don't want to change 
strategies,  they want to listen,  they have created divided memberships 
and many are not tolerant to criticism.We have a long way to go with 
Yahya Jammeh if the language is not change to mass demonstration for 
political reform. Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 19:12:27 -0600From: 
[log in to unmask]: LJD on CORDEGTo: 
[log in to unmask]://gainako.com/?p=4170 Best, Yero.
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