Ousman actually not so soon... you were right on the spot... May be Kejau needs to also know that CORDEG has been branded by a "gang of people" collecting money on behalf of the people... This last one pertains to the student fundraising that some of us have been helping around... Sigga Jagne was particularly mentioned in that accusation... See these things have no end in sight...It appears to be just people drinking ataya and making unfounded accusations. There are consequences for these and they cannot be entertained lightly else we risk losing every credibility in ever being able to raise fund for any course. That's the bigger issue here...

Demba


On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 6:09 AM, ousman ceesay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Kejau,
I am not trying to make donors look clueless and hapless. I commend what they do and hope we have more people doing what they do. Context is important and in this, I didn't narrate my case well before, I put the hole in the pocket phrase out there. It could be misconstrued as a hit on the donors. That is totally, as the kids in my neighborhood say, my bad. I was just flabbergasted that people are falling for allegations that someone gave Banka $300000 and he is spending it on himself. Thus the hole in pocket phrasing. Because, in my opinion, someone with that kind of money, who is willing to give it away without accountability, shouldn't be pitied. I was not talking about the radio financing issue.

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From: "Kejau Touray" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: May 13, 2014 11:44 PM

To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Dr. Jobe on our Diaspora fasle accusations & NRMG Spokesperson on Gainako radio!

Demba et al. 

I think the media should hold us accountable and the standards should not be lowered just because it is a struggle or we are at the receiving end. Those in the media should be the first to defend such right even if they are in the firing line. What is a baseless accusation can only be ascertained if the accused comes out and addresses the allegation. I understand Pa Nderry gave Banka and others ample opportunity to reply to the allegations and Banka came out only last night to address the issue. The little I heard from the exchanges, was that Banka wants accountability to be delayed until the dictator leaves. I think that is preposterous. 
On the issue of the money being spent on the radio, on their travels, 5 star hotels, etc, I think some of us cautioned about establishing an FM radio as the coverage cannot be expected to reach anywhere near The Gambia even though the cost of establishing such a radio is very small. Those given grants on behalf of the struggle should not be seen to paying for 5 star hotels, even if at their own expense, lest they be accused of squandering those grants. 
Similarly some money was given to current members of NMRG in the past and that was wasted on similar projects, i.e. travels without accountability, resulting in the sponsor holding his purse for similar ventures. Donors should be commended for their donations rather than castigated for given their hard earned monies out with remarks like holes in their purses or similar unguarded comments. 

Thanks, 

Kejau


Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 22:22:53 -0700
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Dr. Jobe on our Diaspora fasle accusations & NRMG Spokesperson on Gainako radio!
To: [log in to unmask]

Lamin I believe that Dr. Janneh may have mentioned the funding issue to Pa in private when he was soliciting support from journalists to lunch and host the program. When they reach out to me they mentioned having secured funding for the first 6 months. Now it is Pa or any publishers prerogative to pursue the source of the funding directly from Dr. Janneh or the original source instead of making assumptions on how much or the source not to talk about alleging others are paid for a service they render free. 

The issue is if someone is not interested in rendering the service or contributing then don't make baseless allegations. I still believe these kinds of allegations are desiged to inject distrust among activists intentionally or otherwise... instead of talking about how we can move forward, we are lured into defending something that was never there... listen to the aftermath discussion and see if this is serious...

Personally, I won't hesitate to call Pa or any network and challenge anybody who alleges anything and I expect the same on my shows..we just need to separate btw what is entertainment and what has consequences on people's perceptions and integrity...

The goal for most of us is crystal clear - defeat tyranny and restore sanity in our country and for that I equally can associate with you Lamin.. Good night..

Demba


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-------- Original message --------
From: Lamin Darbo
Date:05/13/2014 6:05 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [G_L] Dr. Jobe on our Diaspora fasle accusations & NRMG Spokesperson on Gainako radio!

Ousman

Your points on ethics and association are pertinent aspects of the wider conversation, but even here, Pa Nderry did say Banka was the one who would asked to be interviewed. He missed the larger dangers for the convenience of the moment. The allegations are there in the public domain and in Banka, or Dr Janneh's position, I would take to Freedom or other media to defend myself, either verbally, or in writing.

On another point, money directly taken out of public funds, and money solicited for public purposes, may be considered as first cousins, with little separating them on the accountability front. Either way, the reputational issues may be inseparable and hence the need for some form of self defence.

In any case, what prompted Dr Janneh to inform Pa Nderry about "securing funds" in circumstances where he may not be able to publicly identify the source(s) of those funds?



LJDarbo
On Wednesday, 14 May 2014, 1:26, ousman ceesay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Demba,
I agree with your contention, that, it is unethical to air allegations, without affording the subjects a chance to defend themselves whenever possible. Nderry's ethical lapses are too numerous to point out in the space of this email. He has not been held accountable in my opinion for these infractions.

I  don't think Banka should avail him the satisfaction of appearing on his show to explain himself.  He can use other avenues to do that. Nderry is not and should not Lord over us because of his platform. That is a slippery slope. He has a right to run his mouth, but people have a right to associate or not with his platform. We are not talking about misappropriation of public funds here. If  someone has $300000 burning a hole in their pocket and decided to give it to Banka, the accountability metric is to the private financier(s), not Nderry and his band of brothers.


--- Original Message ---

From: "Demba Baldeh" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: May 13, 2014 4:50 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Dr. Jobe on our Diaspora fasle accusations & NRMG Spokesperson on Gainako radio!

Well, Lamin good questions... for the record I was mentioned in those false allegations that I am in fact being paid for the services I render for free -hosting the radio program in Senegal..even though I insisted that the program be rotated among Gambian journalists/media practitioners (see original press release). My question is if you want information or heard about something want to publish it is ethical that you pick up the phone and call the right parties and ask straight up questions... It is wrong in my view to seek information by leveling wild allegations with the hope that XYZ will come and clarify. Why not ask or invite anyone for that matter? 

My contention is that there are consequences for making false allegations that cannot be substantiated especially in the public space. I also content that our struggle is not a laughing matter or a game of beauty contest where we can allege serious issues and then only to turn around and laugh them off.. 

Personally am not holding brief for anyone but I think I equally have the moral duty to condemn and caution against unfounded allegations.. We must also be very sensitive to the plight of individuals and families... The student fundraising was entangled in the same mess to the level that people who believe everything they hear or read without the ability to separate substance from euphoria are claiming that people are collecting funds for personal gains. I think these are counter productive and we must never encourage them from anywhere they originate..As much as we may disagree with people mentioned in those allegations such allegations are distractions and nothing but that in my opinion...

Thanks

Demba


On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Demba

Are we talking degrees of "falsehood", or are people suggesting Freedom Radio's "allegations" are utterly false? 

Even whereas I am completely opposed to pursuing people and vilifying them on the private domains of their lives, I think it is legitimate to question the public aspects of those lives especially where there are transparency issues to ventilate. Although uncertain about the extent and significance of the "allegations", it appears there is a story here. Those who aspire to prominence in either the struggle, or the leadership of a future Gambia, must exhibit transparency in the public aspects of their dealings in the name of that struggle.

I am baffled that people are holding brief for grown men who are smooth media operators in their own rights. Would you rather others defend them or would you rather they take on Pa Nderry in his own medium and conclusively demonstrate the "falsehood" of his "allegations" if indeed that is their position on the matter?

For the record, I think it is wrong for Pa Nderry to characterise Banka as "njuma", but then again Banka should be able to deal with even that unsavoury characterisation on Freedom and trusting there are Gambians who are not swayed by meaningless insults.

Do you think there is a story here or not?



LJDarbo
On Sunday, 11 May 2014, 23:53, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Just wanted to share some hot conversations we had on Gainako Radio Sunday. Our guest were Dr. Sedad Jobe on allegations made on Freedom Radio.. his position and how we should move forward..

NRMG spokesperson Rt Captain Kanteh answering questions on NRMG.. If you miss the interview tune in to www.gainako.com and listen to the conversation..

As usual it was contentious with NRMG discussing about policy, influence and why Gambians should rally behind NRMG any more than they should behind the UDP, PDOIS, GMC, or civil society groups like CORDEG, DUGA etc...

As always your feedback is always welcome...

Happy Mothers' Day

Demba for GON  

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