Bamba. My criticism of Jawara is nothing personal as I pointed out flaws in his governance and if that is personal then all our criticism of Yaya is personal too. Indeed we have laws here and they protect the rights of folks to not be libelled. Kejau. Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: Bamba sering Manka Mass <[log in to unmask]> Date:20/05/2014 08:28 (GMT+01:00) To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: We must refuse to go down this lane, for the sake of one Gambia Can someone please remove or bring to order these two insane folks on the L! I have tried so hard not to get involved in this childish, foolish and irresponsible debate but can't keep quiet so long. What has Jawara's birthday celebrations got to do with rape, asylum, divorce or Paedophile accusations? Gambians have more serious issues to resolve. I have observed hypocrisy at full swing here while I silently read comments from folks and I think in all fairness both kejaw and karim were at fault in this instance. Both kejaw and karim so dis respectfully made terrible mistakes here both as fathers and husbands, it is totally irresponsible and disrespectful to both subscribers and readers of this very important forum. I belief in all fairness, being personal is what affects most Gambians and this includes all of us. We love to criticize but so much hate to face criticism ourselves. Kejaw was wrong there. Much of his criticism of Jawara was all personal and nothing to do with national issues. When the same was thrown at him, as he always does, threats of court sanctions. Come on that is foolish. Who is scared of court? Those in glass houses should never throw stones. As for karim, he was way out of order. Hawling insults is never the solution to any issue. I think karim made a point when he reminded kejaw that he too was part of a rogue regime but he too got Gambian when threatened with court sanctions. The courts here are not Gambian military nonsence. Both of you grow up and stop this nonsense. Respect us your brothers you debate with or both of you visit the courts to sort out your madnesses and see if judges would entertain you.x --- Original Message --- From: "abdoukarim sanneh" <[log in to unmask]> Sent: 20 May 2014 06:55 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: We must refuse to go down this lane, for the sake of one Gambia You are struggling with mental health problem. My asylum was paid by legal aid. My lawyer Flora Robinson did not receive pency from any Gambia. Stop damn lies. Who did you paid the money to, Who was collecting the money for my legal fee? Stop making a joke of yourself. I and my lawyer didn't receive money from any Gambians about my legal fee. My case only take 4 months and during that was not depending on any Gambia has a receive suppory from NASS. Kejau ot been rumours sometimes that you are struggling with mental illness and the trend can be seen through your pathological lies and irrational judgement. It is about time you seek help. Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 06:26:41 +0200 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: We must refuse to go down this lane, for the sake of one Gambia To: [log in to unmask] Thank you Yero. I do not think you are being fair with me here as I very mildly criticized Jawara and because of that Karim for days have heaped insults and accusations at me without ant provocation and nobody here took it upon them to caution him. I had to rein him in by threatening to take him to court and only mentioned his deserting wife to buttress that point and warn him off me. I could not have acted otherwise without being dishonest. I contributed with others here to pay for Karim's asylum claim legal fees and on top of that he had consistently asked me for money during that trying times for him. Instead after his successful claim, he had consistently insulted folks here including LJD for merely criticising the PPP. God is the best judge so I leave him to judge between Karim and I! His supposed spat with me started when he called me to support him to take their London organisation from Abdoulie Jobe and I disagreed. This is the reason I dislike politics and interested in running business. But with politics, I have no choice here as it chose us when it thrusts us on exile and put a duty on us to free our country. Kejau Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: Y Jallow Date:20/05/2014 03:12 (GMT+01:00) To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: We must refuse to go down this lane, for the sake of one Gambia Karim - You are looking much more handsome with the piece you wrote on the environment than some of the useless and ugly insults here. I know in these debates, we can all lose our tempers here and there. I was going to parade your piece http://gainako.com/?p=5188 around as my next Al Gore, but these exchanges here are not looking good, and associating with you means helping you realize the damage that your comments are causing. Just apologize to Kejau and let us move on to other better things. Kejau - Here is a brotherly advice. You might want to consider a better debating approach. If you see the ugly beast (anger) is about come in-between you and another person, maybe try going over your comments, and see if just changing your wording, acknowledging, and even adding some critical comments can help. See the emotional button is a hot spot and how you press on that button determines the output one can get from some of these debates. Sometimes it helps. Other than that, this pathway is very ugly. Take the handshake guys and move on....we have a long way to go. 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