Someday hopefully, God willing. Baba On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 9:51 PM, samateh saikou <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > Thanks bro,wish you could make it up here. > For freedom > Saiks > > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 14:01:17 -0700 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: PROGRAMME ALD > To: [log in to unmask] > > This looks like a great program Mr. Samateh, with a lot of important > events lined up. I wish you the very best of luck. > > Warm regards, > Baba > > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 09:55:46 +0100 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: PROGRAMME ALD > To: [log in to unmask] > > > *AFRICA LIBERATION DAY/BLACK PROFESSIONALS DINNER THEME*: > > > > > > *Combatting racism and enhancing peaceful co-existence in Norway Date: > 24th May, 2014 Venue: Interkulturelt Museum, Tøyenbekken 5, Grønland Oslo > Time: 17.00-22.00 PROGRAM Evening Session, 17:00 - 22:00 * *Chairperson: > Mr. Baba Kankani, Board Member, the Africa Centre for Information and > Development (ACID). TIME * > > * TOPIC * > * SPEAKER * > 16.30-17.00 > Registration, welcome drink > 17.00-17.05 > Welcome Remarks and Introduction > Omar Drammeh: Co-founder, ACID > 17.05-17.20 > Guest speaker > Ms. Queen Anne Zondo: Honourable Ambassador, South African Embassy, Oslo > 17:20-17:50 > Quo Vadis Africa! > Dr. William Bright- Taylor > 17:50-18:10 > How can diaspora Africans combat racism and public discrimination in > Norway? > Akhenaton de Leon: Organisation Against Public Discrimination (OMOD) > 18:10-18:25 > Pan-Africanism and the role of Women: How can African women in Norway > empower themselves? > Christine Mungai: Pan-African Women’s Organisation (PAWA) > 18:25-19:05 > * Dinner: Assortment of dishes * > 19:05-19:20 > * Performance by Queendom * > 19:20-19:40 > Empowering the African Woman: How best can we involve and collaborate > with men? > Ms. Aisha Suleman: Development Fund, Oslo > 19:40-20:00 > African Liberation: Lessons learned and the way forward > Mr.Kebba Secka: Daru Salaam Center > 20:00-20:20 > Presentation and poems from Afropolitt > Ms. Asta Busingye Lydersen: Queendom > 20:20-20:40 > Lessons of the African Struggle against racism > Mr. Koro Sallah: Gambians in Solidarity Work, Stockholm > 20.40-21:20 > Combatting Afriphobia in Europe…to win Global Justice for all: The role > of Norway > Mr. Kofi Klu: Executive Commissioner, PANAFRIINDA, UK > 21:20-21.30 > Closing remarks > Mr. John David Kisule*: *Researcher University of Oslo/Global > Development Network > 21:30-21.40 > Vote of thanks > Ms. Amina Mahama: ACID Board Member > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 09:40:03 +0100 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: PDOIS unveils Agenda 2016 party manifesto > To: [log in to unmask] > > Mawdo Demba, > Once again you are spot on. You see without these mechanisms in place, it > would be the same old things. PDOIS blue print is master class no doubt but > as long as their stance on an independent candidate never changes, the blue > print would have no significance as not only Wuli elects a president but > the entire Gambia. > A great Party like the PDOIS with a lot to offer I think comming down to > meet at the crossroad for a common grounds is what is needed right now > under the circumstances but not who leads. I belief in a Gambia where > sectionalism, individualism and factionalism with fruitless ideologies are > dead and burried and I belief change of strategies for all the oppositions > not only PDOIS would see us through the democratic emancipation from > tyranny we all craft for. Yours is the best form of approach in my view.x > > --- Original Message --- > > From: "Demba Baldeh" <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: 22 May 2014 20:33 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: PDOIS unveils Agenda 2016 party manifesto > > Nyang, sure am hoping we can have a more substantive discussion on the > way forward without the usual back and forth.... On substance I agree with > PDOIS outline for a better Gambia, but given the circumstances we have been > dealing with the Jammeh government, things cannot be done the normal way > because the political situation is not normal... Here are a few things I > think can make a difference.. > > 1. Outright rejection of any electioneering participation without the > political reforms the group of six demanded.. > 2. Visible join collaboration between all major political players (this at > the very least give citizens the confidence to defy the government - and > motivate them to rally behind the political parties.. > 3. Joint international campaign by all political leaders to tour > international partners like the EU, ECOWAS, UN, Commonwealth Secretariat, > UK government, US government by leaders of political parties along with > Diaspora leaders.. This will put mounting pressure on the Jammeh government > to yield to political reform. All this can be done before the 2016 > elections...It will also give our partners assurance that we are ready for > change in Gambia. > 4. Regular monthly consultation and meetings between the group of six so > they build rapport, trust and better working relationship at a position of > strength.. > 5. Doing all the above will rally the Diaspora to sponsor these political > fights and I assure you it will yield results... > > See Nyang the position should not be who comes to power next? It should be > how do we get rid of this system and give us all a chance to participate in > a new system... Of course nothing guaranteed but we should all pledge to > fight any system that see to impose its will on us... Please note these are > ideas I think will work... Do you think they can or not? If not what other > ideas you think they should explore? > > Hope this is a good start... > > Thanks > > Demba > > > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > > Demba, do you mind sharing what programs/policies or tactics you deem as > new and capable of achieving results as opposed to the PDOIS policy you are > ascribing as doing same old thing and expecting new results. If you don't > mind you can also tell us what is your stance or the way forward for > political change and democratization for the Gambia. Please give specifics > so we can have a discussion on this very important topic. > > Regards, > Nyang > > On Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:13 PM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > > Kejau, > > As usual have the conditions for selecting a unified candidate change for > PDOIS? Are they still adamant that the candidate has to be an independent > candidate? We have tried that the last time and it did not work, are they > open to party led coalition? What is the rationale behind trying the same > thing we tried if the parties have not moved an inch from where they were > all these years... > > Are we again leaning towards "doing the same thing but expecting different > results" > > I think the vision as outlined in the document is great for a democratic > Gambia? But how do we get there if the situation in Gambia have not > changed? There were references to the group of six and Jessy Jackson's > involvements but it has taken almost two years since that process was > started and NOTHING MOVED.... We have tried to reach out to Jackson's > office several times to find out what was going on but they are not > returning our calls.. > > Has anything changed in Gambia for the last 15 years to warrant trying the > same old tactic? Oh God please save us.. here I come again criticizing what > I believe does not and will not work... What say you guys... > > Demba > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Suntou, > > Thanks for your observations. I agree with you and that is the reason > PDOIS proposed a unity candidate in the middle of next year, unless the > status quo changes. The modalities of selecting that single candidate is > the challenge that we should all rise to when the time arrives. It is > prudent therefore to prepare for that eventuality. > > Kind regards, > > Kejau > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 14:44:46 +0100 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: PDOIS unveils Agenda 2016 party manifesto > To: [log in to unmask] > > > Kejau > The document is good and many issues covered in it. The question now will > be and as was during Agenda 2011, how to implement it. If the landscape > remains as it is, the main use of political parties will be a point to > rally the masses to fight and end the inequalities that is entrenched. > Other than that, the cheats will get away with winning hands down, because > elections are lost not on polling day, but months and weeks before. And the > APRC machinery is perfect at doing that. Jammeh's personal rating is > abysmal, but his grip on social leaders is strong and it is those social > and community leaders that sell the poor and weak to him. > Thanks > Suntou > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > africa » gambia > Monday, May 19, 2014 > Halifa Sallah secretary-general of PDOIS on Saturday briefed the press on > “Agenda 2016” which has been launched in The Gambia by the opposition > political party. Agenda 2016 “a provisional manifesto” of the People’s > Democratic Organisation for Independence and Socialism, PDOIS, was formally > launched at a mass meeting held in Wuli Barrow-kunda village in the Upper > River Region, on Sunday 11 May 2014. PDOIS issued a summary of the contents > of Agenda 2016, as follows: > A Third Republic Ushering in the Sovereignty of the People > PDOIS Agenda 2016 Publication Launch was graced by thousands of residents > of Wuli Barrow Kunda , URR, and its environs on Sunday , 11TH May 2014 – > see photos. > Strategic Objective of PDOIS Agenda 2016 > The strategic objective of PDOIS AGENDA 2016 is to build a Third Republic > ushering in the era of the sovereignty of the people commencing in 2016. > PDOIS is of the view that the highest political expression of the right to > self determination and Independence is the founding of a sovereign Republic > on the basis of the consent of the people, which legitimises their equality > in citizenship and sovereignty. > Hence, before 2016, PDOIS has the aim to conduct sensitisation sessions > nationwide to ensure that all Gambians are cognisant of the fact that > citizenship under a Republic guarantees the sovereignty of the person. > The first goal is to put a definitive end to voter apathy by ensuring that > upon completion of the exercise each Gambian would recognise that the > voter’s cardis an attestation of one’s sovereignty and equality in > citizenship with all other Gambians, without which one is deprived of the > power and voice to say how the country is governed.One is thus transformed > into an alien in one’s own country. > All Gambians should then feel a self-motivated urge to possess and > preserve one’s citizenship card as a manifestation of one’s national > Identity, and a voter’ card as a symbol of one’s sovereignty. > The second goal is to put a definitive end to sectarian politics which > relieson the perpetuation of prejudices or loyalties based on faith, > gender, caste and ethno–linguistic origins and ensure that it is engrained > in the consciousness of every Gambian that a Sovereign Republic is a > community of sovereign citizens who enjoy equal rights and freedoms and are > entitled to equal benefit from public services irrespective of place of > birth, ethno-linguistic origin, religion, physical features, philosophy, > gender and other demographic characteristics, in whom the sovereignty of > the country resides, from whom the authority to manage the affairs of the > community must be drawn and for whose liberty and prosperity. > A Case for Electoral Reform > PDOIS recognises that since 1965 the Gambia had never had a democratic > transfer of power from one party or person to another. In the same vein the > coup d’etat and the politics of transition has given rise to a peculiar > political situation in the Gambia characterised by the inadequate > development of Republican and democratic instruments, institutions , values > and culture which are requisite to the building of a genuine multi party > system. > This reality begs for appropriate strategies and tactics to bring about > democratic change which would usher in the ideal sovereign Republic could > put in place a genuine multi party system. > PDOIS AGENDA 2016 proposes two practical tactics to address the political > situation. > The first arose out of the initiative of the joint opposition prior to the > 2012 National Assembly Elections. To combat the abuse of incumbency through > the use of state resources and personnel for party political objectives 7 > opposition parties petitioned the IEC to convene a stakeholders’ meeting > for all to give commitment to uphold the election laws under the watchful > eyes of the press and electronic media. The failure of the IEC to meet this > minimum achievable step as a start for effecting electoral reform led to > the non participation of 6 opposition parties in the National Assembly > Elections. The end result was reduced confidence in the electoral system. > In short, out of 48 constituencies with 796,929 registered voters, only > 304,000 voters in 23 constituencies were supposed to have taken part. > However, only 154,950 voters finally voted in the 23 constituencies. The > APRC which contested in 23 constituencies had 80,249 of the popular vote. > The Independent Candidates had 60,085 votes out of 18 constituencies. NRP > had 14, 606 votes. > The Group of Six continued call for electoral reform was further > legitimised by the results. Hence, when Jesse Jackson visited The Gambia > after the execution and asked the opposition what role he could play, after > the release of some prisoners, seven opposition parties and some > Independent members of the National Assembly gave him a mediating role for > electoral reform. The Group of Six was transformed into Gambia Opposition > for Electoral Reform comprising all the seven opposition parties and some > Independent MPs. > In the council elections, 45 seats out of 114 were contested. The > Independent Candidates won 10 of the seats. NRP won no seat. In the Mayoral > Elections in Banjul, out of 21,178 registered voters only 9,733 voted and > the Independent candidate won. > In the KMC Mayoral Election, out of 187,757 voters only 36,755 voters > participated. The APRC had 25,773 votes. It is, therefore, clear that the > 2016 electoral cycle opens with a clean slate. Its outcome will depend on > how the hearts and minds of the people are to be shaped in these coming two > years. > The First Tactic > The first tactic is to work for electoral reform so that the second round > of voting is restored and upper age limits barring candidatureare > eradicated to enable interested parties to test their popularity and leave > the electorate to decide the fate of political leaders. > The Second Tactic > The results of the Mayoral election inBanjul confirms that even if there > is no electoral reform change would come if the people are resolved to > support one candidate . Hence PDOIS proposes if no reform takes place up to > the middle of 2015 opposition parties could meet to decide on how to select > one candidate to contest the Presidential elections in 2016. > Electoral reform or not the political parties must be strong on the > ground. Hence PDOIS plan is to work and consolidate its forces on the > ground pending electoral reform or electoral Alliance. This is why Agenda > 2016 proceeds explain how PDOIS intends to address the challenges facing > the country. > Economic Transformation > PDOIS has the objective ofbuilding a self reliant economy aimed at > eradicating poverty and ensuring prosperity > Public sector investment > In 2014 the estimated expenditure is 10.2 billion dalasi. If all this come > from taxes poverty will increase. Hence PDOIS calls for the accumulation of > sovereign Nation wealth through mining minerals like Illmenite, Rutile and > Zircon which have been found in the coastal strip of Bato Kunku, Sanyang > and Kartong as well as explore the oil resources of the country. > It will collect dividends from public enterprises which as far back as > 1998 had a turnover of 804 Million dalasi and paid 68 Million dalasi into > government covers. In 1999 the turnover increased to 940 Million and 82 > Million dalasi paid into government coffers. > The Private sector will be the engine of mobilising capital and foreign > direct investment for productive private sector investment to complement > the aim of promoting poverty eradication and general welfare through > corporate responsibility. In recent years, approximately, 1.6 billion > dollars, amounting to more than 64000 Million dalasi, is exchanged annually > in the foreign exchange market in the Gambia while exports in 2012 earned > the country only 92.6 Million dollars or 3680 Million Dalasi. The > investment of the private sector in the productive base of the economy > falls far short of the volume of money that is currently in > circulation.PDOIS will ensure that private sector capital is linked to > private sector investment > The cooperative sector will be the engine of accumulation of Cooperative > finances for grassroots development. In 2007 alone rice import to the > Gambia amounted to 557 million dalasi, tomato paste, 121 Million dalasi; > onions, 18 million dalasi; flour, 130 Million dalasi; vegetable oil, 457 > Million dalasi, fruits and vegetables, 57 Million dalasi; Milk and Milk > products, 149 million dalasi. If agriculture is linked to processing by > cottage or light scale industries financed by cooperative financial > institutions a sum of over 1489 Million dalasi would have been put in the > hands of Gambian producers in one year. > The Social Security and housing Finance Corporation invested over 400 > Million dalasi to purchase and refurbish Ocean Bay Hotel. Such sums of > money should have been deposited in a Bank serving as shareholder since > only a sum of 200 Million dalasi is required to establish a bank. > Establishment of cooperative marketing units in villages to which goods > could be given in kind for sale and from which goods could be bought to > enable producers to benefit from the economics of scale. > The cooperative banking system would be linked to a cooperative marketing > system and the family farms organised as cooperatives for family members so > that they could be given farming inputs to produce on a large scale and be > given fair income due jointly determined prices for their produce. > The informal sector will be the means for promoting a multiplier effect of > development down to all sectors which are not reached by the formal sector. > All land will be properly delineated land into agricultural, industrial, > residential, commercial, recreational, conservational and infrastructural > use and all property rights determined to put a definitive end to > demolitions. > Industrialisation > We cannot just grow what we eat and eat what we grow and attained a self > reliant and sustainable economy. We must process what we grow, rear, fish, > mine and so on. PDOIS aims to register all the appropriate technology in > the country aimed at determining our processing potential and challenges > for the primary phase of industrialisation. It will facilitate joint public > / private; public / cooperative and other continental linkages to > facilitate the secondary phase aimed at light scale industries and the > tertiary phase of industrialisationaimed at large scale industries and > machine building. > Infrastructural Development > The North bank and the South Bank would have first class roads linked by a > bridge somewhere in URR. > River transport would be enhanced by the construction of wharfs in all > major towns along the river to ensure that all heavy loads are transported > by river transport to reduce the rate of dilapidation of major highways and > give new life to the economic activity of many towns. > The bridge being contemplated across the Gambia River will be extended to > a ports’ projectto serve Southern Senegal, Eastern Gambia, Mali and beyond > . This would facilitate road and rail links in the sub-region. > Political Transformation > PDOIS conceive the citizenry as the embodiment of the sovereignty of the > Republic and collectively the architects of our destiny. It aims to > eradicate all vestiges of monarchical or self-perpetuating rule and ensure > that authority to lead at village, district, regional and national levels > are determined by the will of the people. > Constitutional and Legal Reform > A commission of Gambian jurists would be constituted to conduct a review > of the Constitution and laws and propose reform of all provisions which are > unreasonable and unjustifiable in a democratic society after consultation > with the wider public. > Institutional Reform: > Institutional Reform of the executive, legislature, judiciary, the Public > service, the office of the ombudsman and the Independent Electoral > Commission would be undertaken. > Executive > Combat monarchical and self perpetuating rule by advocating for a one term > mandate after the transfer of power from the current administration > followed by a constitutional amendment, to introduce a two four-year term > limit, as is the case in Nigeria and USA; Introduce Gender parity for the > filling of two thirds of Cabinet posts in National Assembly; Ensure > security of tenure of parliamentarians by subjecting them to removal only > through the exercise of the right to recall by the electorate; Introduce > proportional representation for two thirds of the seats in Parliament, so > that one third of the membership will always be balanced by gender; > Eliminate the post of nominated members and its replacement by introducing > a policy of proportional representation. > Judiciary > Establish Special Judicial Service Commission to appoint judges on the > basis of merit and subject to removal only for misconduct and infirmity > confirmed by judicial inquiry; Establish a jury system for district > tribunals with presidents appointed by the Judicial Service Commission; > Establish Special Public Service Commission to appoint members of the IEC > with Party leaders having the right to raise objections and be heard by the > commission which would sit publicly to preside over the hearing of the > objections. > Local Government > Effect decentralisation and devolution of power by replacing governors > with regional permanent secretaries to handle central government matters in > the regions; Establish elected councils to administer villages, districts > and regions. > Civil Transformation > PDOIS aims to build a society centred on the protection of the liberty, > dignity and self worth of the citizen by upholding fundamental rights and > freedoms and ensuring that all state institutions, agencies and natural > persons are committed to such an endeavour. In this regard; Establish a > National Human Rights Commission to monitor and ensure protection against > violations of Human Rights; Ensure that all conventions on fundamental > rights and freedoms that are ratified by parliament shall automatically be > domesticated by promulgating the relevant provision in the constitution; > Eradicate of all laws and policy directives which hinder freedom of > expression, and the dissemination of divergent views and dissenting > opinions by the state and non state media. > Enact a Freedom of Information Act to remove secrecy from public > administration and make the administrators accountable to the public they > serve and responsive to enquiries of the media which are supposed to keep > the people informed. > A National Council of Media Practitioners will be established as a self > regulatory body for media practitioners, which will have no judicial powers > but will exercise persuasive influence aimed at promoting professionalism > and integrity in the performance of duty and resolving disputes to > decongest the courts. We are committed to the enactment of laws, > establishment of institutions and law enforcement practices which would > enlarge and protect rights and freedoms. > National Police Service Commission would exercise direction and control > over the police force and appoint all senior officers of the force on the > basis of merit. The Inspector General of Police shall be appointed with the > approval of the head of state, but once in office, cannot be removed > without judicial inquiry into allegations of misconduct o infirmity and > subject to approval by the National Assembly. > Undertake reform the Criminal Code to decriminalise all provisions that > are not reasonable or justifiable in a Republic or Democratic society, > humanise law enforcement agencies and practices and rationalise penalties > to be equivalent to crime committed; Undertake reform of prisons and prison > administration. Introduce community service as alternative to imprisonment > as measures to eradicate retributive justice. > Since no sovereign citizen would choose to occupy a government post of a > killer of killers the death penalty would be abolished and life > imprisonment maintained as the severest punishment for a crime. > A National Prisons Service Commission will exercise direction and control > over prison administration and appoint senior prison officers. A Director > General of Prisons shall be appointed with the approval of the head of > state, but could only be removed by a judicial inquiry into allegations of > infirmity of misconduct. > Imams of major mosques and priests of major churches, trade union leaders > and leaders of registered civic groups or associations would be honorary > human rights commissioners and social auditors who could visit jails, > prisons and other places of detention to check conditions and make > representation for compliance with the laws or propose improvement or > reforms in the administration of public institutions such as prisons. > Courts shall be required to take judicial notice of any detention beyond > the 72 hours established by the constitution, for a person to be held > without bail or court appearance and count it as duress. Human rights > defenders will receive maximum media coverage and protection to ensure that > all violations are reported, exposed and violators named and shamed. > A sovereign person has a right to change a government, but has no right to > kill and incite hatred to change a government.Hence the crimes of Treason > and Sedition are not permissible in a sovereign Republic. Those who kill or > destroy property could be charged for their conduct. > Social Transformation: > PDOIS aims to build a community of sovereign citizens whose sense of > belonging to a community of Gambian nationals would be putabove other > affinities; an informed citizenry who will have the right and audacityto > ask of the community what is required to have education, skills, good > health, employment, housing, proper sanitation, protection at old ageor in > case of disability and adequate recreation in order tolive in liberty, > dignity and prosperity and who will recognise their duty to give to the > community what it requires to provide the needs of all and ensure that each > enjoysindividual and social justice. > It will involve, in governance, the people organised into civil > associations to serve as social auditors who will scrutinise, criticize and > restrain the tendency for misrepresentation, bad governance, mismanagement > and impunity, on one hand, and on the other hand, serve as the ears, eyes > and mouths of the people who will speak truth to authority in defence of > legitimate individual and public interest. > The Agenda has addressed the challenges of self determined education, the > provision of appropriate healthfacilities , housing and other social > amenities such as recreational facilities > It calls for special measures to be put in place to address past > discrimination and injustices perpetrated on the basis of gender, > disability, age, social origin and prevent their resuscitation. > Cultural Transformation > PDOIS is to promote and preserve all cultural heritages that enhance human > dignity, self worth, liberty and prosperity and thus fuse all the > identities and values originating from diverse cultural backgrounds into > the identity and values of the sovereign community of sovereign Gambian > citizens under the Republic. > It will combat all vestiges of prejudices emanating from ethno- linguistic > origins, monarchical and caste systems, religious allegiances, gender > orientation and all other practices which undermine the integrity of the > sovereign person in particular, and diverse groups in general, and manage > diversity in such a way that unity is enhanced by promoting republican and > democratic values and their institutionalization to promote the equality of > all Gambiansin citizenship, and all other communities resident in the > Gambia in rights to ensure mutual respect, tolerance and appreciation of > diversity. > It plans to establish a house of culture in each village, district, region > and urban centre for artistic and other cultural expressions, in order to > promote appreciation of each others’ origins and ensure respect for the > upholding of republican and democratic values and ways of life of sovereign > people. > Ecological Transformation > It advocates for the management ofair, land and sea in such a way that > liberty and prosperity will be enhanced without putting into jeopardy the > liberty, dignity and prosperity of future generations through improper > management. > It will combat environmental threats caused by poor urban and regional, > district and village planning, thus leading to floods and demolition of > buildings, engendering poverty and hardship. > Integrate environmental impact assessment before any action is taken that > could affect the environment at village, district, regional and national > levels. > Regional Integration, African Unity and International Cooperation > PDOIS aims to give concrete expression to the aspiration to transform the > world into a universal home for human kind, where each nation, big or > small, will cooperate, and sub-regions and continents could establish > Communities of states, and even federations, that will co -exist with > similar entities, in the spirit of good neighbourliness, equality and > mutual interest, and provide to each sovereign person the enjoyment of > civil, political, economic, social, cultural and ecological rights. > Enter into a cooperation agreement with our neighbour Senegal, to > establish a joint commission of jurists to review constitutional and legal > instruments regarding governance with a view to harmonising, standardizing > and adopting them to promote regionalintegration and African Unity on a > democratic foundation that will serve as a pillar to uphold the fundamental > rights of our peoples. > This template of a Republican Constitution will be presented to African > countries and international community to promote the creation of a monarchy > free century, and thus earn Africa honour and respect for promoting such an > epoch-making agenda. Take concrete measures to harmonise economic, civil, > political, social, cultural and ecological policies and plans with Senegal > to serve as a blueprint for regional integration. > End > > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 19:38:25 +0100 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Jawara > To: [log in to unmask] > > Please krubally can you allow fews panelists on the forum like Demba > Baldeh of Gainako, LJ Darboe on the otherhand and perhaps Dr. Baba G. > Jallow? > > --- Original Message --- > > From: "Demba Baldeh" <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: 20 May 2014 17:41 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Jawara > > Burama.. Jawara was not a dictator in all fairness. Now you can have > your personal opinion about what you think he was but that is different > from the facts about how he governed. Make sure you clearly "define' the > characteristics of dictators at an international and domestic standard > before you venture into political opinions which everyone is entitled to.. > > Oh well Burama thinks Obama is a dictator too lol are you a Tea party > supporter? Just kidding but yes I look forward to listening to such a > program. > > Thanks > > Demba > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Bamba sering Manka Mass < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Brother Touray I promise I shall be neutral but even though I would love > to have you on board so that listeners would not grt bored fir I have no > doubt a lot would laugh their tommies out when you bring your those Kudang > gossips. > > --- Original Message --- > > From: "kejau" <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: 20 May 2014 15:52 > > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Jawara > > I see that I scare you, Krubally. Bamba is on your side so it is fair > Jammeh has a buddy. > > > > > Sent from Samsung Mobile > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: M B K <[log in to unmask]> > Date:20/05/2014 16:28 (GMT+01:00) > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Jawara > > No guys just Burama and I for this first time. Bamba I have sent you a > private email with Burama. I really want this to be educational and not > too long. > Kejau you go next. > > MB Krubally > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 20, 2014, at 6:48 AM, kejau <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Count me in bamba... > > > Sent from Samsung Mobile > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Bamba sering Manka Mass > Date:20/05/2014 15:37 (GMT+01:00) > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Jawara > > Great koto Burama I shall call you.x > > --- Original Message --- > > From: "Burama Jammeh" <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: 20 May 2014 14:33 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Jawara > > Bamba > > Great venue! I'll show up at anytime. My number is 810 844 6040. Skype is > bfljammeh. You may catch me on email as well and/or other free calling apps. > > Thanks for the offer. > > Burama > > On Tuesday, May 20, 2014, Bamba sering Manka Mass <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > Folks I volunteered to give you guys kibaaro radio for the debate.x > > --- Original Message --- > > From: "Burama Jammeh" <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: 20 May 2014 12:25 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Jawara > > Let me know when and where. > > Most welcome! > > Burama > > On Tuesday, May 20, 2014, M B K < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Jammeh, Jawara was not a dictator and I like to debate you on that. > Hopefully I will learn something I don't know about his regime. Let's > find a host and conduct a civil debate. > > Your brother in the struggle MB Krubally > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 20, 2014, at 3:33 AM, Burama FL Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > > Compatriots > > > > What's wrong to say Jawara is a dictator and/or democrat? Certainly we > will disagree on this as we're currently disagreeing on Yahya. From Jawara > is a dictator to marriage/divorce/asylum/phone cards/etc. are so far apart > and unconnected in many ways. One is national and the others personal. > Disclaimer I'm divorced for years now yet I have all rights to participate > like any other Gambian. > > > > Tolerance is an important characteristic in a democracy. You don't have > to like what one says and/or do but accept it as his/her right as long as > no laws are broken. > > > > By the way both Jawara and Yahya are dictators. I will defend that > position everyday and night. In fact Jawara/PPP created Yahya. Yahya is > simply Jawara/PPP on steroid! > > > > Important though the fight is important and more than them. 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