Demba Good point! I hope am not the road block. I also want to see people put forward that moves us forward than just saying it as if someone will do it. Jawara's public life is a legitimate issue in Gambia. It will probably remain so forever. It was not just politics but our socio-culture and economics. Bring on anything public about Gambia. I will give my take without insulting anyone. Though I wouldn't expect everybody to agree but I hope others respect my view. In this particular case all who object are only saying either their believe, believe of those around them and/ or opinion. I didn't state my opinion but even if I do how is my inferior to theirs. I stated 2 facts - copy definitions of dictator from a lexicon and state 10 things that happened under Jawara. Up to this point no one told me at least one of those points are a lie. Please don't try suppress messages you don't like. Undemocratic! Regards Burama On Tuesday, May 27, 2014, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Good one mawdo Yero. I have the same opinion for Burama. He made the > point, defended his position and we should move to more pressing issues. > Just insisting on this point is just going to alienate more people. Of > course everyone of us is entitle to our opinion and each must be respected > as well. > > I just think we have a road block right now in Gambia that is even > preventing us from honestly and openly discussing what was flawed in the > first republic and how we can improve on that. Right now we are not able to > freely have that national dialogue because majority of Gambians who we > should have this dialogue with are on the ground and are afraid to > participate in this discussion. Even those present on social media on here > on the L are afraid to speak. > > I look forward to discussing how we can regroup around some of the ideas > Burama is presenting and how we can convince more people to participate in > moving these ideas forward. The choice is ours we can either continue to > dwell on this issue with tempers rising or we can find a common ground and > try to move the dialogue forward. > > Thanks > > Demba > > > On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Y Jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Comrade Burama - > > It is nice seeing your opinion as always. I have no doubt that you are > loaded with a sincere motive to see the Gambia and her citizens liberated > from the clutches of tyranny, and to that, I just wanted to say keep on > patriotic citizens. To where I live to witness the new Gambia, I would like > to see all citizens being respected for their opinions...a nation of active > and responsible citizens who are aware of their environment, and who will > champion the rights of citizens, to live and exercise their freedom of > everything, without being subjected to terror. > > That said, here is some advice for you, which might not change your > beliefs wholly, but it will help structure your argument, a bit better, if > not for your readership, at least for posterity reference. I know your iron > is very hot right now and you would just rather vent out on your > feelings...and many probably fail to realize that this claim of yours is > only an opinion, and it doesn't mean the man was in fact a dictator. > Consider changing your tone a little bit...the whole idea of Jawara being > branded a "dictator" in the real context of dictatorship, might not > befitting the man in my view, at least going by the standard measurement of > dictatorship in real context. Changing the choice of words just a little is > very rewarding and it will also give you the opportunity to continue the > path of democratic movement, something that you have a hobby in pursuing. > Yes, there wasn't a term limit. Yes, there were some human rights > violations. Yes, there were some system defficiencies. etc...you name it. > But Dictator, he wasn't. The man was a victim himself, of a "maslaya" > culture that came to define the system of Government, to which the end > result was "connections" that saw others to light, and others kept in their > struggling spots for survival. Such is not rare in our cultures. We know > who we are, a people whose circle of friendship and family give great > "connections" which end up shamefully making it to govt quarters. > > The new Gambia will be a Gambia of true citizens; one that will put the > bondage of family and frienship away to reconcile the nation. > > I checked the meaning of a dictator on dictionary (www.dictionary.com) > and here is what it says. This meaning doesn't truly picture the real > meaning of dictatorship. > > www.dictionary.com.... > (1.a person exercising absolute power, especially a ruler who has > absolute, unrestricted control<http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/control> > in a government without hereditary succession. > 2. > (in ancient Rome) a person invested with supreme authority during a > crisis, the regular magistracy being subordinated to him until the crisis > was met. > 3. > a > > -- > *"Be the change you want to see in the World"* > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To > unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web > interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html > > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the > List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask]<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤