AbdouKarim Good contributions. I'm not familiar with those studies but good to know/learn. Looking forward to more from you. Regards Burama On Friday, May 30, 2014, abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Burama > I am at work but will reply to you aggregate variables of mismanagement > and poverty. You are out firing your guns. Your variables dies not fit a > statistical test because you neglected international political > economy. Your discourse is local and that is the blame game mismanagement. > Burama we are resource poor country we have wider issues of public > administration beyond the mismanagement. Issues of public mismanagement > is not only putting in place legalise instructions of public administration > but enforcement of the rule. Burama we are poor because international > political economic factors and its drivers. Problematisation of poverty and > dependence theory from walter Rodney and post development thoeorisation > Escorbar should have help us how we look at our problems. > > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 07:32:20 -0400 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: What's Our Make-up & How Was/Is It Managed > To: [log in to unmask] > > AbdouKarim > > I didn't reference any publication. I did cited some sources of the > numbers - not all of them. > > In fact my original question is not about population but given what the > country had as resources including human capital - are we poor and/or > mismanaged. > > You picked the angle that interest you or assumed what I/we are alluding > to. I used we because Demba shared. > > Mind is more political factors (choices made by our governments) than > anything else. > > Regardless increase in population on a finite resources means reduction > either in quality or quantity or both. That's an establish fact - not an > unproven theory or opinion. > > Burama > > On Friday, May 30, 2014, abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > Burama > I am not downplaying factor in resource utilisation. It is the publication > that you reference that are giving us the only dominant narrative framing > of population growth nexus natural resources causation. It becomes the only > acceptable hypothesis. The resulting factor such as poverty international > political economic power and power relation of resource use and control id > always negated. > > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 07:05:46 -0400 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: What's Our Make-up & How Was/Is It Managed > To: [log in to unmask] > > AbdouKarim > > You may have a point and am not disputing. > > Regardless increasing demand of any resources means scarcity. Population > is one of the variables that with any increase will reduce either quality > or quantity of a said resource. I have not seen a study that puts every > blame of land degradation on population but surely a factor. > > Yes we are agrarian. Isn't that people in need of land for food production > - hence more/faster depletion. As humans we can change from agrarian and/or > improve on techniques. Isn't that management? > > International trade and debt, especially debt servicing for The Gambia is > a problem. Again proper and inform management should ameliorate some of > those problems. On the flip side trade is not only good but important. > > Fair trade is more a political phenomenon than it's economic. In economics > trade is anchored on comparative advantage theorem. > > Unless you totally exclude and/or downplay the role of population > increase we are in agreement. > > Regards > > Burama > > On Friday, May 30, 2014, abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > Burama > That is neomalthusian narrative. Population growth is always use as the > cause and the results factor is negated. The results to resource > degradation is beyond demographic narrative of population growth. We are an > agrarian economy and so depend on natural resources for livelihoods. > Poverty nexus land degradation is was negligent and population growth > always take a center stage and becomes the dominant thesis. Do you look > into international political economic issues such debt and its impact on > mortgaging our natural resources in servicing debtors. Lack of fair trade > and it's association poverty natural resources uses etc. > > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 05:23:42 -0400 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: What's Our Make-up & How Was/Is It Managed > To: [log in to unmask] > > Abdoukarim > > Gambia is considered one of the overcrowded nation by all estimators > including WHO’s > > Having 1.7million on about 11000 sq. km = 155 people/sq. km. Considering > not all of the 11K is not land - some water, some forest, roads, etc is > highly dense. > > Gambia at one time (some times in the 90s) used to be the fasted growing > in the sub region. Not only due to natural birth but also the subregional > conflicts contributed to that trench > > Estimates (WHO 2010) - 55% are living in the urban area - that means we > are not symmetrically spread over the nation. > > Multi- factors contributed to resources degradation (resources in the > broader sense) - some natural and o > > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To > unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web > interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html > > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the > List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);> > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤