Samateh Thanks Burama On Saturday, June 7, 2014, samateh saikou <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Mr Jammeh , > I believe it is more human than culture or religion,or ethnicity to wish > and die for a better life,equality,justice etc in a collective society.They > can have some aspect of influence but are not the basic,so i am with you > here too.Well we might be wrong. > > For freedom > Saiks > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 14:51:06 -0400 > From: [log in to unmask] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);> > Subject: Re: The Gambia & Democracy > To: [log in to unmask] > > Samateh > > The point was some suggesting we living in Europe/America are wanting > western democracy for Gambia. Is there a western or African or Gambian > democracy? > > I posted there us no such thing as western democracy as far as the > definition is concern. Do people's cultures and traditions factor into > governing ideals - sure. Yet I do not see what is in the definition of > democracy that is against cultures, morals and/or religions in Gambia. > > How political parties and/or politicians conduct themselves are > questionable in many instances not withstanding America/Europe's people's > rep. do it better than ours. > > Regardless the question was whether wanting democracy in Gambia is un-Gambia > or some foreign concept. > > Regards > > Burama > > On Saturday, June 7, 2014, samateh saikou <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Hei, > Just some few lines.I will hate to see a Gambia were it is only political > parties with money that change political power among themselves,democrats > and liberals (consevatives) whiles the others struggle to get a simple > message through .I will hate to see a government that does not care what > it's citizen reason when it comes to for example,going to war,closing an > institutions without taking heed to those affected but can use tax payers > money against their will to bail financial institution who have been living > on the sweat and tears of the people. I dont know what western democracy is > ,but if it is bourgeois democracy you are reffering to,there is Much to be > desired. > For freedom > Saiks > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 08:53:12 -0400 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: The Gambia & Democracy > To: [log in to unmask] > > Over the years I received many resentment over the goals of our struggle > (assuming it exist). > > The usual swags are '' we're advocating for Western Democracy which isn't > possible in Africa/Gambia''. First is to say what is considered West didn't > start with democracy but have come afar. In fact the history of West is > more barbaric by any measure than Africa/Gambia. Noticeable differences > between Europe and USA in relation to democracy is the > former's incorporation of their past into the new structures while the > later went pure. It most be said that none has perfected it but no doubt a > good yardstick for those of us seeking one. > > I then look up the definition of democracy to see what is in it that's > un-African/un-Gambia as our oppositions seem to suggest. Hereunder what I > found > > ''a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible > members of a state, typically through elected representatives'' > > So here are my questions to the oppositions: > > 1) what's unique about us that we can't/shouldn't institute a free and > fair process to elect/un-elect our leaders. It that un-Gambia? > > 3) why can't we have laws that serve our collective interests and as well > applied to all uniformly. Again is that un-Gambia? > > 3) Separated powers - may sound or in reality a new concept. But isn't it > reasonable if so many are bundled together into a nation to find a fairer > way to collective manage our affairs with decent degree of checks and > balances. Europe/West was all about feudalism, aristocracy, etc...... > > 4) why not prove the accusation against you for one thing or another > rather than criminalize opinion/views? > > 5) why are we trusted to own our nation by colonial masters but our own > sons/daughters think we are unfit to elect/select our own division, > district or village head? Is that Western? Or is that un-Gambian? > > 6) let me understand why can't/shouldn't we have our taxes at work for our > interests rather than lining up someone's pocket? Is basic fairness > un-Gambian? > > Enough of the examples fitting the above definitions.< > > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To > unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web > interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html > > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the > List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);> > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤