Daffeh Why should I "chill out a bit" in a national discourse? How are my comments/views "incendiary"? How am I "not helpful" by expressing my views as I see it? I am with the view that is the opposite those we were all seeking whether we agree or not. Those were my honest views on the current state of affairs. In addition I don't think my language was anyway inappropriate. Regards Burama On Monday, September 1, 2014, UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > "In fact under the current set up even if a new group is elected by our > efforts……they’ll be basically a dictatorship in some form."- Burama > > My friend, I think you need to chill out a bit. This kind of comments are > incendiary and not helpful at all. > > Thanks > Daffeh > > On Monday, 1 September 2014, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>> wrote: > >> Compatriots >> >> Maybe is long over due to address our inabilities to freely express and >> associate which includes holding political rallies…….than to be still >> arguing that some arrangement of political parties will win 2016 elections. >> >> Maybe the question is not so much whether election boycotts works but >> does elections in Gambia makes any difference under current circumstances >> besides the cosmetic values. >> >> We will need a redefinition and/or reconstruction of our strategies to >> defeat tyranny in Banjul. Certainly the same people >> (Gambians/Politicians/activists, etc) but with a new approach……… >> >> The traditional party politics will neither do it nor any strategy >> anchored on elections under the current set up. >> >> This don’t mean political parties or the members are not needed………….but >> we have to move away from the traditional seeking of votes for now to >> Republicanism of all Gambia. Somewhere along that way we would need >> elections to decide who gets to office. Regardless vigilant citizens will >> be needed at all times to ensure a functioning institutional democracy of >> our republic. Governments do not restrict herself even under the best of >> conditions. Government is always a force. Vibrant citizenry limits that >> force to her desire levels. >> >> This is a debate we should begin……….or else we can wait or another >> overthrow of Yahya whenever he runs out of energy or too complacent. >> Unfortunately that will mark the begin of another era of dictatorship >> regardless who s/he is! >> >> In fact under the current set up even if a new group is elected by our >> efforts……they’ll be basically a dictatorship in some form. >> >> Burama >> >> >> On Sep 1, 2014, at 7:11 AM, UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >> UDP slams denial of permit to hold political rally >> >> <http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article/udp-slams-denial-of-permit-to-hold-political-rally#map> >> Africa <http://thepoint.gm/africa/news> » Gambia >> <http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/news> >> Monday, September 01, 2014 >> >> UDP leader Ousainou Darboe and members of the party executive Sunday >> called a press conference to announce that the police denied the country’s >> leading opposition party a permit to hold a political rally at Cedar Club >> Latrikunda German. >> >> The rally was to celebrate UDP’s 18th anniversary, following the >> launching of the opposition party in The Gambia on 23 August 1996. >> >> 23 August 1996, said Lawyer Darboe, is “a very significant day in the >> life of the United Democratic Party; in the life of modern-day Gambia. It >> is a day on which Gambians who cared for their country got together to put >> up resistance to impunity; unlawful behavior of the military; to protest >> against the overthrow of the democratically elected government; and, it was >> a day when Gambians were given renewed hope that their children and grand >> children will live in a decent society. The rally was to be held to >> celebrate and salute those Gambians who have dedicated their lives to the >> struggle for political pluralism.” >> >> The UDP, lawyer Darboe wants the public to know, is being frustrated in >> its attempts to hold a political rally, and that it would not allow the >> opposition party’s political rights to be denied. >> >> Speaking to reporters, Lawyer Darboe said 2016 is a crucial year in the >> country, a year in which elections will be held. That the UDP, as a >> political party, has started working towards 2016. >> >> He said the party had planned a rally for the 9th of August, and the >> application for use of a public address system at the rally was submitted >> to the police on 19th July 2014. However, the police asked the UDP youth >> wing leader Ebrima Sandeng to pick up their letter on 7th of August. >> >> The UDP executive then decided that the period between 7 and 9 August was >> not enough time to publicise and hold the rally, which was to be held at >> Ebony Junction in Serrekunda Central. >> >> The UDP submitted another application letter dated 11th August “to >> celebrate the 18th anniversary of the founding of the United Democratic >> Party” on 23 August 2014 at the same venue. >> >> “Our application was not rejected,” Darboe said, but the police asked >> that the rally be held at “a different venue.” He added that the police not >> only responded just a few days before the event; but then stated in their >> letter – copy of which was made available to reporters at the press >> conference - that “due to the rainy season and the conditions of the roads >> linking to the main road, the diversion of the traffic will cause >> difficulties to motorists and pedestrians, if the rally is held at Ebony, >> Serrekunda Central.” >> >> When this reason was given by the police, the UDP leader wrote to the >> Inspector General of Police, according to a letter dated 21st August – a >> copy of which was made available to the reporters – and complained about >> the police “handling of our applications for use of Public Address System >> at our rallies.” He said he pointed out that the police have not been >> responding in good time to make it possible to organize these rallies. >> >> “In any event, the UDP and other parties have held rallies at this >> particular venue in past rainy seasons, and the conditions of the roads >> linking to the main road have not changed. Pedestrians and mororists never >> experienced any difficulty…” >> >> Lawyer Darboe described the reason given by the police as not acceptable, >> that it was not a “genuine” explanation, adding that the police showed a >> lack of “good faith”, when they delivered their reply at around 5 pm on >> 20th August – to the UDP’s application to hold their rally on 23 August. >> >> He further described the police’s reaction as “a ploy to stop us >> organizing the rally”, and that the UDP wrote back to them that the party >> will now hold the rally at Cedar Club Latrikunda German on 30 August. >> >> Then on Thursday 28th August, again at around 5:30 PM, according to the >> opposition leader, the UDP received a letter from the IGP stating: “Please >> be informed that your request is not granted due to security reasons.” >> >> The UDP called the reason given by the police “a sham” and wondered what >> security reasons will require opposition political parties not to hold >> rallies in the country. >> >> The UDP is not an organ that would jeopardize the country’s security. The >> opposition party has been at the forefront of ensuring that peace and >> stability in The Gambia is not put in jeopardy, he went on. >> >> According to lawyer Darboe, if anybody poses a security threat, it has >> been APRC supporters who have been charged with treason. >> >> Darboe went on to declare that as regards the denial of a permit to hold >> the rally planned, the UDP holds deputy IGP Ousman Gibba responsible. >> >> Asked how this development reflects on the national count down to the >> 2016 elections, Darboe said it shows the continuing stifling of the >> political opposition; that it manifests a poor democratic environment in >> which political parties are not allowed to operate freely. >> >> He said considering that the opposition parties do not have access to the >> public media, to deny them permits to hold political rallies is tantamount >> to an attempt to “undermine the constitution, and to sow seeds of >> discontent in the country.” >> Source: *Picture: Lawyer Ousainou Darboe* >> >> On Monday, 1 September 2014, Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> The UDP Stalwarts advocating for yet another boycott without civil >>> disobedience, will it work, what has really changed since the last boycott? >>> >>> >>> Please read more here: >>> >>> http://gambiadaily.co.uk/12-election-boycotts-don-t-work >>> >>> >>> >>> Stop me if this sounds familiar. In the first round of a prominent >>> presidential election wracked by accusations of fraud, >>> [image: The United Democratic Party is a political party in the Gambia, >>> founded in 1996 by the human rights lawyer Ousainou Darboe. As a candidate >>> in the presidential election of 18 October 2001, he came second with 32.6% >>> of the popular vote; he took second place again in the 22 September 2006 >>> presidential election with 26.7% of the vote. The 17 January 2002 >>> parliamentary election was boycotted by the party.] >>> a controversial incumbent receives just less than 50 percent of the >>> vote, leading to a runoff. The opposition candidate, believing that the >>> problems from the first round had not been adequately addressed, decided to >>> withdraw from the runoff, calling it a farce. As a result, the incumbent >>> retained power, but in the words of the challenger, "the president can >>> declare himself the winner, but his government will lack credibility and >>> legitimacy." >>> >>> Clearly, that last quote is from Abdullah Abdullah, who suddenly >>> withdrew from the Afghan presidential race last weekend, right? Wrong. The >>> speaker was Alejandro Toledo, referring to the Peruvian elections of 2000, >>> after his withdrawal allowed incumbent Alberto Fujimori to be easily >>> re-elected for a third term. But that’s not the end of the story. Toledo >>> did not go quietly into the night, instead leading a massive civil >>> opposition movement, leading to Fujimori’s resignation six months later on >>> allegations of fraud and corruption. Toledo then defeated Alan Garcia in a >>> 2001 election and became president. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read more here... >>> http://gambiadaily.co.uk/12-election-boycotts-don-t-work >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:43:45 -0500 >>> From: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: Obituary --Gainako's Demba Baldeh Lost His Mother >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> >>> Sad news indeed. Our deepest condolences to Demba and the entire Gainako >>> family. May her soul rest in perfect peace. Baba >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 31, 2014, at 4:11 PM, "Pa. Saikou Kujabi" < >>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> My deepest condolences to Demba, the Baldeh family, and the entire >>> Gainako team for the lost. May Allah protect her from the torment of the >>> grave, and grant her a "Jannatul Firdaus". Ameen. >>> >>> Pa. S. Kujabi. >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, August 31, 2014 1:55 PM, Halima Sukuna < >>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Demba, >>> >>> Please accept my condolences and that of my children on the loss of your >>> sweet Mother. It is through you that I have an idea of the extraordinary >>> person she must have been and she blessed all of us through the lessons and >>> love that she poured into you and you, inturn, pour into your own family >>> and the greater community. >>> >>> May you dear Mom rest in absolute peace Demba, >>> >>> Chris, Hassan, Hadam and Sadiyah >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, August 31, 2014 9:20 AM, Malanding Jaiteh < >>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Our condolences to Demba and family. >>> >>> >>> Malanding Jaiteh >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: Y Jallow >>> Date:30/08/2014 22:54 (GMT-05:00) >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: [G_L] Obituary --Gainako's Demba Baldeh Lost His Mother >>> >>> Obituary -Gainako's Demba Baldeh Lost His Mother >>> >>> Comrades - >>> >>> "Every soul shall taste of death ...." (Al Quran, Surah 3 - Al-Emran, >>> Verse 185). >>> >>> The sad news is flying on the wings of the passing wind. Gainako's >>> vibrant activist, Demba Baldeh, lost the mother (Daa-Kumba Sowe) in the >>> Gambia today August 30th 2014. The sad news is extended to all our readers, >>> friends, families and the large family of communities. The Late Daa-Kumba >>> is survived by many grandchildren, daughters, and sons; the most outspoken, >>> Demba Baldeh, is no stranger to both Gambia's political sphere and the >>> large media fraternity. >>> >>> On behalf of the large Gainako family, we are quite saddened by the sad >>> news and we extend our heartfelt condolences as we enter into a period of >>> mourning to pay our last respect. We ask you all to join us in solemn >>> prayers to ask God (Allah Rahmaan) to elevate the deceased and all those of >>> ours that passed to the heights of heaven (Jannatul-na'eem) and to give the >>> family the strength to move on. >>> >>> A Poem: Mother in memory! >>> >>> Mother -we called and we heard no answer >>> we felt your hands and feet >>> we felt your beautiful forehead >>> we now know the wings of the wind carries the sad news >>> we are preceded by the colds hands of death >>> that Daa-Kumba Sowe of beloved memory is gone. >>> >>> Mother -your one time smile struck us hard >>> we are now deafened to our ears >>> blinded to our eyes >>> crippled to our feet >>> and mourning with our warm hearts >>> all because of your sudden passing. >>> >>> Rest in peace Daa-Kumba and till again when we see, may the lord give >>> you the best of receptions. >>> >>> -Sent on behalf of entire Team Gainako. >>> >>> King regards, >>> Yero. >>> >>> "There is no god but Allah; & Muhammad (SAW) is 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