The individual you are mentioning came to UK under Gambian Tax Payers Scholarship and apply for asylum after I was granted. I struggle work and paid my tuition fee is that criminal?  Asylum seeking is my human rights. Safe your heroes don't drag them into my taking with you.  Anyone who has grounding with me know I just don't care about how self important Gambian people more especially our self proclaimed elite with decolonising mind want people to portrait them . 

Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:32:57 +0200
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Karim, 
I do not know whether to continue ignoring you or risk more insults and or personal attacks, based on senseless hatred and absolute lies, which only some hate filled people like yourself, believe in. It is not healthy and will get you no where. For the sake of the decent others here, I will try to answer these malicious allegations, you are hell bent on sharing. Be rest assured, I will never run away from here, like other decent soldiers, hatred filled people you succeed in getting them off here. I have never strengthened Jammeh's regime, as many have testified and continue to testify, on my integrity. I served my country as the military police commander and in overseas, where every Gambian is respected because of my selfless service Even haters like you cannot still find a shred of evidence to implicate me in a single instance of my strengthening Yaya's regime. So please stop insulting our intelligence and be decent and proffer a single evidence to back up your malicious allegations or shut up, please. What things fell apart? Everyone knows I was never sacked but went to study and only when I left for holidays was I declared absent without leave. Unlike you, Karim, who studied in UK and when the studies finished, refused to go back and sought asylum and was supported financially and in other ways by the very people you insult here everyday, including my good self and LJ Darboe. You are one ungrateful bitter old man. The Gambian tax payer paid for my training, just like they paid for your training at the Gambia College, but unlike you, I served my country and the world for about a decade.Your assertion that all Gambian soldiers are Yaya's making cannot be far from the truth or is it your very poor English we cannot comprehend. Please seek help with your grammar, as we struggle to understand you, I wonder how you write you thesis with this poor grammar and serious dyslexia. 
Forward for ever, 
Kejau 

Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:48:16 +0100
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Stop making your own story. You are not different from Momodou Sabally!  You have contributed in strengthening the hand of devil until things fall apart. You are selected among the few soldiers and the army under the coffers of Gambian Tax Payers was financing your education. With justified fear of persecution using your own wise judgement you run to seek persecution. Your only difference from Momodou Sabally is his lack of judgement arrogant selfish and his greedy pursue for power and position. Gambian elites and soldiers are the making of Yaya Jammeh.

Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 23:32:47 +0200
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Edi. I was a soldier before this regime and did my part and my service to my nation, like everyone,  magistrates, teachers unlike bumsters like you. 
The line we need to draw is that how far up the ladder you were to be an enabler. A cabinet minister, like Sabally, has collective cabinet responsibility as is culpable as another other cabinet minister such as even the president. 
You threw wild accusations about me suffocating the nation without any basis but did you ever work for your country if so in what capacity and will that capacity not be enabling or is it only officers and soldiers who are enabling. 
Kejau







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From: Edie Sidibeh 
Date:11/09/2014 20:56 (GMT+01:00) 
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Kejau, do you forget you people where the ones who helped and eventually suffocating the entire popular. Where you once not a soldier in that same government to a grater extend yet people are reasoning with you? Don't forget yourself and blaming
 others for the same crime against Gambians. It shouldn't what they did during their time in the government, justice should be for everyone and if any one so called enablers did anything wrong, well the next government will deal with that. Blaming people who
 once worked for the government or still working is unjust to the core. Edi


 
DO ONTO OTHERS AS YOU WILL ACCEPT THEM IN RETURN. DO YOUR BEST AND LIVE THEREST TAKING CARE FOR ITSELF










On Thursday, 11 September 2014, 20:36, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:










LJD,


I agree with are on the same page... I too pity Sabally and any human being who subjects themselves to such situations, but yes his personal situation ranks bottom for me as well.. My main concern is the idea that it is ok to maltreat people who have work
 with and fallen apart from the government. We certainly should care about his family and his rights to due process and humane treatment... This is my position and am sure for most you as well.


It is mostly the system that otherwise criminalize people. I can bet that if you have a more decent system the likes of Sabally may not act the way they acted... I am very concern about the precedence being set in Gambia..
'Oh well, he deserve it so let's look the other way' without considering the precedence and how it emboldens the system...How about the universal rights of every citizen regardless of their affiliation??? 


Thanks

Demba



On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Lamin Darbo
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Demba

 

One very plausible interpretation of Kejau's statement "I agree we should not abuse each other's right but surely I have a right to not feel pity for those who abuse our rights" puts him and you and Malanding and virtually all of us on the same page.

 

Sabally saw lawlessness from a distance, appreciated and salivated for a role in it from a distance, pleaded for participation from a distance, and actively participated when he ascended the topmost policy council of Professor Jammeh's government.

 

Accepting Sabally's right to dignity and lawful treatment within Gambian public space must be non-negotiable, but "pitying" him is an entirely different question. I "pity" him as a human being, with all that goes it, i.e., a family man, with loved ones,
 and his personal aspirations. 

 

In the context of Gambian public life, my "pity" for Sabally is at the lowest possible end of the scale. If however I am in a position to defend him in a court of law, I'd give him the best possible representation. I hope this is the route Kejau is travelling.

 

I salute your courage to participate in this mundane discussions so soon after the departure of a mother you so resemble facially.


 

 

 

LJDarbo

 







On Thursday, 11 September 2014, 0:01, kejau <[log in to unmask]> wrote:






Demba.


I understand the romantic notion of caring for all, but really, we should therefore not even be outraged at the government then, should we? After all the government is made up all citizens. Or maybe but until they fell out of favour and out of power, even
 if the abuse our rights. 
I agree we should not abuse each other's right but surely I have a right to not feel pity for those who abuse our rights. 
OK, I was just playing satan's advocacy here. 
Kejau





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-------- Original message --------
From: Demba Baldeh 
Date:11/09/2014 00:48 (GMT+01:00) 

To: 
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Kejau,


I think we should care about what happens to our fellow citizens. The violation of the rights of one of our citizens is the violations of the rights of all of us regardless. The situation here is not the individual but the government actions towards citizens.
 Really every decent Gambian citizen needs to be outrage about what happens to our citizens every single one of them.... "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere"

Demba


On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Kejau Touray 
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Malanding,  


I wonder whether we should really care about Sabally and his family, afterwards, he insulted Mandinkas on national TV and accused us all of being unpatriotic. He was not under duress, but merely interested in his new new lifestyle at the expense of our
 freedom, etc. 


Kejau 






Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 11:34:13 -0400
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How much longer can the Gambia endure this kind of dog-eat-dog, wanton bestiality?  It does not matter whether it is Momodou Sabally or Yahya Jammeh at the receiving end. This is not who we are as Gambians.

 
Malanding
 
http://www.foroyaa.gm/archives/1351
 
 
REMANDED AT THE NIA What is the experience of Sabally’s Family?
EditorSeptember
 9, 2014
By Mustapha Jallow
This reporter went to meet the different family members of Mr. Momodou Sabally, the former Secretary General, Head of the Civil Service and Minister for Presidential
 Affairs, to find out whether they have access to him and have made any attempt to secure legal counsel in order to apply for bail since he was remanded in custody at the NIA by the High Court on 11 August, 2014.
When this reporter visited his family residence in Lamin, a close relative indicated that the family in Lamin could not say anything about Mr Sabally since he was remanded. They
 appeared traumatized and preferred to say very little.
At his private residence in Kotu, this reporter met the caretaker and two boys said to be Mr. Sabally’s children. An effort to interview his wife proved unsuccessful.
Prior to his removal from the cabinet on 7st July,
 2014, Mr. Sabally was moved from the position of Secretary General, Head of the Civil Service and Minister of Presidential Affairs and reassigned to the portfolio of Minister of Higher Education, Research, Science and Technology.
Mr. Sabally is facing two counts of ‘Abuse of office’ and ‘Economic crimes’ before Justice Mikailu Abdulahi of the Banjul High Court. He pleaded not guilty to both charges.
EDIITOR’S NOTE
His case was adjourned for hearing on 14th October,
 2014 at the High Court in Banjul. This means two months of detention without court appearance. No information is available on any effort being made to secure bail before the trial. Remand prisoners also have rights. Foroyaa would be ready to meet any family
 member who wishes to confirm that those rights are being protected as he remains a remanded prisoner under the custody of the NIA.
 

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