Exactly my point! Because you can hardly come up with is the problem. Because I can name is a bad measure. Burama On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, Husainou < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Can you come up with the names of news outlets that are not bias so I > could add them to my reading list please. I know of some who are moderate . > Hous > > > > > On Sep 23, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>> wrote: > > Kejau > > I guess you repeating what I said differently. > > There is an unwritten righteousness ethic in every profession. > > Journalists are expected to report news as is an not as their political/social > inclinations. > > America's journalists are guilty of that in many ways. > > You don't have to be an officer of court not to lie to court. > > Burama > > On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>> wrote: > >> *E! * >> >> This has nothing to do with ethical reporting, but it has a bearing on >> what to report, etc. There is no journalism ethics that say that they >> cannot be part of any political parties or what they can cover. >> >> This is not to say that they should not be objective or should take >> sides. >> >> It is ethical for lawyers to fiercely defend their clients but as court >> officials, they cannot of course lie as said. This does not mean they >> cannot also be part of any political party or have any political >> inclinations. >> >> Even judges have political inclinations as they are appointed by >> political parties in the US at least. >> >> KR. >> >> Kejau >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 15:06:55 -0400 >> From: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: Journalist Taking Side >> To: [log in to unmask] >> >> Kejau >> >> Being human or citizen as in this case to perform your civil rights is >> different from holding to the professional standards/ethics/norms of >> journalism. >> >> Equally a lawyer can/should legally defend his/her client but that is not >> to say s/he should lie at court, which in itself is a crime. >> >> America's democracy is in many problems partily because of those things >> you just sighted. >> >> When people's watchdogs become interested parties...... >> >> Burama >> >> On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Mr. E!. >> >> Journalists are human and as such support of political parties of their >> choices in healthy democracies. I remembered I argued with Suntou Touray >> when I started Gambia Daily News around 2008, well before Kibaro, Kairo >> news or even Gainako, here or on Gambia Post. >> Gambian journalist often pride themselves as not supporting any political >> party openly whilst in the Western world, newspapers and their owners are >> lobbied by political parties to support their stance and they always take a >> stance. For instance in UK, Mirror supports Labour whilst the Sun supports >> the Conservatives. >> >> Kejau >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 13:34:23 -0400 >> From: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: Journalist Taking Side >> To: [log in to unmask] >> >> Demba >> >> Thanks >> >> Burama >> >> On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> You right Burama... But I think one of the reasons these other forces for >> example the UN is because they don't have a unified command under one >> system as you said. Nato is a success story as they have a unified command. >> They succeeded in Libya, Afghanistan, in Yugoslavia etc... They did a lot >> better than the UN peace keeping force. >> >> We should give credit to the UN peace keeping force as well in Darfur, >> Siera Leone, Estimo etc. As I mentioned a similar idea was floated in >> Africa where Nigeria who has more resources and military force can take the >> lead commanding a security force where they can intervene... >> >> I also think it is a good strategic idea for America to move away from >> Unilateralism - going it alone as if they break it their are often stuck >> with the burden to fix it. Their intervention in Libya was a good example >> where they refused to go it alone as compared to Iraq. This is a good >> strategy for the US because problems of the world must be shared with >> others. >> >> Once in a while though America elects a neocon... like George Bush who >> think America should intervene in every part of the world. I like Obama's >> resistance to invading countries. War is expensive and often the poor >> people and soldiers pay for the cost.. So why go it alone if Saudi can pay >> half of the cost to protect their own kingdom... American? Yes, can you >> blame them - well every nation should be protecting their interest first >> and foremost.. >> >> Thanks >> Demba >> >> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >> Demba >> >> I could go along on the idea of Global Force. >> >> Easy in theory & hard in practice. Remember there is UN and supposedly >> should take care of these global issues that cut across national borders. >> It couldn't work well (even peace keeping roles) because there is no >> international standards uphold by all. Equally interests are different. >> >> NATO is another we could consider here. Besides the core role of >> defending the member nation against external aggression, they can hardly >> agree on anything - latest example is Libya intervention (some participate >> some not). In addition NATO is 80/90% America. >> >> The other concern at least from Bill's position is to fill that force >> with non Americans with American command. What's going on here? Is Gambian >> (any other nationality) son/daughter expendable than American son/daughter? >> In short I am troubled with the idea that they will be in the air and >> someone else take the ground - at least the manner is sold! >> >> America may not police the world nor should they pay for all these >> conflicts but if America ID ISIS as a national security problem, unless >> they can find someone else who view that organization the same they have to >> do the job to take them out. I don't think that a problem for instance for >> Gambia today. And Gambia may participate in an international effort but >> when you tell us to grad the worst end....... >> >> The Arab leaders and the trillions.......another story! >> >> Regards >> >> Burama >> >> >> On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Burama, >> >> I don't agree with O'reilly much but I like that idea of a global force >> (just like the UN peace keeping).. The fact is that will prevent America >> from not only using its military but paying for everything to police the >> world... Those ignoramus leaders in the middle east and Africa sitting on >> trillions of wealth will pay for the wars and America can safe some money... >> >> Since they are expected to intervene in every conflict zone in the world, >> why not form that global force? I think Africa can benefit from forming its >> own peace keeping force to force those petty dictators from killing their >> people for nothing... >> >> thanks >> >> Demba >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >> Did you listen to Bill Oreilly’s Talking Point Memo this evening……..He >> suggested forming a Global Mercenary fighting force under American control. >> >> Am all for routing out evil. But America has National Army - why not >> deploy them? I guess my question is - who’re the alien people to be this >> supposed fighting machine (the expendables) and not Americans? Sounds >> familiar - ‘no booths on the ground’ but expecting someone be there. >> >> The second point is - if the threat is serious enough, its the >> president's responsibility to explain to citizens why the need to fight >> that fight………instead public opinion is dictating their thoughts and action. >> Unfortunately the public are not preview to all intelligent matters. >> Journalists! Politicians!…….. >> >> Home front………many of us also settled on the notion that someone will >> solve our problems. Different nation and different subject matter but the >> same mindset. It hardly work! >> >> Burama >> >> On Sep 22, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Husainou < >> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Solo that is why we've got two parties and also one of reasons Fox News >> Network and MSNBC are around .The country is colored in red,blue ,purple >> states. I'm New York resident, always love to read the Daily News and >> favorite news channels are MSNBC and CNN. I'm sure folks in Texas will do >> quite the opposite from me. C'est la vie >> Hous >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 22, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >> How scary journalist publicly taking side in America democracy? >> >> What was/is good/bad under Bush maybe another thing completely under >> Obama. And you can use any 2 presidents of opposing parties - only >> differences are is now getting more obvious. >> >> I always thought journalism is something opposite to that. >> >> Burama >> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To >> unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web >> interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search >> in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact >> the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >> [log in to unmask] >> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ >> >> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To >> unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web >> interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search >> in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact >> the List 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