Demba Your last sentence sums it up. Is not about the training (formal/informal). Burama On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Thanks Burama. I think we need to differentiate between journalist and > activist working in the media. There are people working with MSNBC or FOX > whose profession and career is in journalism.. they are reporters like > Richard Angle reporting from many war zones... Ed and Sean Hannity are not > journalist, they work in the media as political activists. Their sole > purpose is to promote the agenda of one side or the other... Overtime the > profession of journalism has evolved as we knew it... > > The media has become a powerful enterprise that houses both journalists > and activists... It is good to differentiate between the two.. Just like > many of us are media activists but not professional journalist - meaning we > have not gone to formal journalism school... Others are trained in the > streets by Observer and other Gambian newspapers but have never done > further training in this field. Not sure if we can call those professional > journalist thus the level of training... You can tell the difference can't > you? But it really shouldn't matter.. if I am in Human Resources or Sales I > should carry the same ethical standards to whatever field I decide to take > up... > > Thanks for bringing in interesting subjects... > > Demba > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>> wrote: > >> Demba >> >> Good example! >> >> Disclosure of financial interests, commissions and mode of payment. >> >> You can't say it better enough. >> >> For example Hannity on the American right and Ed Scholes (not sure of my >> spelling) on the left. Of course there some centrists.........but meeeen! >> >> Burama >> >> On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>> wrote: >> >>> You got your finger on it Burama.. like any other profession, >>> professionalism and ethics is and standard that everyone should try to >>> meet. As citizens journalist should be able to exercise their civic duties, >>> carry out their professional responsibilities at a high standard without >>> compromise... If you are a financial analyst or stock broker you conduct >>> yourself at a high ethical standard while still protecting your personal >>> interest of earning a living... Practicing journalist is no different from >>> being a teacher, a lawyer, a doctor or a nurse.. Ethical standard is >>> required... >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Demba >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Kejau >>>> >>>> Gambian journalists should fully exercise their civil rights while >>>> making sure it doesn't undermine their professional ethos. >>>> >>>> I know is easier said than done.....but not impossible! >>>> >>>> 'A doctor doesn't infest people so his practice can make money...... >>>> S/he cures people knowing if there is no sick people s/he will be out of >>>> business. Maybe s/he already believe someone will be sick no matter >>>> what........ >>>> >>>> The major media houses in America are openly bias in one way or >>>> another. I mean is not even a secret anymore.......in fact the news >>>> consumers mostly follow as they align with their politics. >>>> >>>> Hardly they deliver news for what it is! >>>> >>>> Burama >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Kejau >>>>> >>>>> Being human or citizen as in this case to perform your civil rights is >>>>> different from holding to the professional standards/ethics/norms of >>>>> journalism. >>>>> >>>>> Equally a lawyer can/should legally defend his/her client but that is >>>>> not to say s/he should lie at court, which in itself is a crime. >>>>> >>>>> America's democracy is in many problems partily because of those >>>>> things you just sighted. >>>>> >>>>> When people's watchdogs become interested parties...... >>>>> >>>>> Burama >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Mr. E!. >>>>>> >>>>>> Journalists are human and as such support of political parties of >>>>>> their choices in healthy democracies. I remembered I argued with Suntou >>>>>> Touray when I started Gambia Daily News around 2008, well before Kibaro, >>>>>> Kairo news or even Gainako, here or on Gambia Post. >>>>>> Gambian journalist often pride themselves as not supporting any >>>>>> political party openly whilst in the Western world, newspapers and their >>>>>> owners are lobbied by political parties to support their stance and they >>>>>> always take a stance. For instance in UK, Mirror supports Labour whilst the >>>>>> Sun supports the Conservatives. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kejau >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 13:34:23 -0400 >>>>>> From: [log in to unmask] >>>>>> Subject: Re: Journalist Taking Side >>>>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>>>> >>>>>> Demba >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Burama >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> You right Burama... But I think one of the reasons these other forces >>>>>> for example the UN is because they don't have a unified command under one >>>>>> system as you said. Nato is a success story as they have a unified command. >>>>>> They succeeded in Libya, Afghanistan, in Yugoslavia etc... They did a lot >>>>>> better than the UN peace keeping force. >>>>>> >>>>>> We should give credit to the UN peace keeping force as well in >>>>>> Darfur, Siera Leone, Estimo etc. As I mentioned a similar idea was floated >>>>>> in Africa where Nigeria who has more resources and military force can take >>>>>> the lead commanding a security force where they can intervene... >>>>>> >>>>>> I also think it is a good strategic idea for America to move away >>>>>> from Unilateralism - going it alone as if they break it their are often >>>>>> stuck with the burden to fix it. Their intervention in Libya was a good >>>>>> example where they refused to go it alone as compared to Iraq. This is a >>>>>> good strategy for the US because problems of the world must be shared with >>>>>> others. >>>>>> >>>>>> Once in a while though America elects a neocon... like George Bush >>>>>> who think America should intervene in every part of the world. I like >>>>>> Obama's resistance to invading countries. War is expensive and often the >>>>>> poor people and soldiers pay for the cost.. So why go it alone if Saudi can >>>>>> pay half of the cost to protect their own kingdom... American? Yes, can you >>>>>> blame them - well every nation should be protecting their interest first >>>>>> and foremost.. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Demba >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Burama Jammeh < >>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Demba >>>>>> >>>>>> I could go along on the idea of Global Force. >>>>>> >>>>>> Easy in theory & hard in practice. Remember there is UN and >>>>>> supposedly should take care of these global issues that cut across national >>>>>> borders. It couldn't work well (even peace keeping roles) because there is >>>>>> no international standards uphold by all. Equally interests are different. >>>>>> >>>>>> NATO is another we could consider here. Besides the core role of >>>>>> defending the member nation against external aggression, they can hardly >>>>>> agree on anything - latest example is Libya intervention (some participate >>>>>> some not). In addition NATO is 80/90% America. >>>>>> >>>>>> The other concern at least from Bill's position is to fill that force >>>>>> with non Americans with American command. What's going on here? Is Gambian >>>>>> (any other nationality) son/daughter expendable than American son/daughter? >>>>>> In short I am troubled with the idea that they will be in the air and >>>>>> someone else take the ground - at least the manner is sold! >>>>>> >>>>>> America may not police the world nor should they pay for all these >>>>>> conflicts but if America ID ISIS as a national security problem, unless >>>>>> they can find someone else who view that organization the same they have to >>>>>> do the job to take them out. I don't think that a problem for instance for >>>>>> Gambia today. And Gambia may participate in an international effort but >>>>>> when you tell us to grad the worst end....... >>>>>> >>>>>> The Arab leaders and the trillions.......another story! >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Burama >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Burama, >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't agree with O'reilly much but I like that idea of a global >>>>>> force (just like the UN peace keeping).. The fact is that will prevent >>>>>> America from not only using its military but paying for everything to >>>>>> police the world... Those ignoramus leaders in the middle east and Africa >>>>>> sitting on trillions of wealth will pay for the wars and America can safe >>>>>> some money... >>>>>> >>>>>> Since they are expected to intervene in every conflict zone in the >>>>>> world, why not form that global force? I think Africa can benefit from >>>>>> forming its own peace keeping force to force those petty dictators from >>>>>> killing their people for nothing... >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Demba >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Burama Jammeh < >>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Did you listen to Bill Oreilly’s Talking Point Memo this >>>>>> evening……..He suggested forming a Global Mercenary fighting force under >>>>>> American control. >>>>>> >>>>>> Am all for routing out evil. But America has National Army - why not >>>>>> deploy them? I guess my question is - who’re the alien people to be this >>>>>> supposed fighting machine (the expendables) and not Americans? Sounds >>>>>> familiar - ‘no booths on the ground’ but expecting someone be there. >>>>>> >>>>>> The second point is - if the threat is serious enough, its the >>>>>> president's responsibility to explain to citizens why the need to fight >>>>>> that fight………instead public opinion is dictating their thoughts and action. >>>>>> Unfortunately the public are not preview to all intelligent matters. >>>>>> Journalists! Politicians!…….. >>>>>> >>>>>> Home front………many of us also settled on the notion that someone will >>>>>> solve our problems. Different nation and different subject matter but the >>>>>> same mindset. It hardly work! >>>>>> >>>>>> Burama >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 22, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Husainou < >>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Solo that is why we've got two parties and also one of reasons Fox >>>>>> News Network and MSNBC are around .The country is colored in red,blue >>>>>> ,purple states. I'm New York resident, always love to read the Daily News >>>>>> and favorite news channels are MSNBC and CNN. I'm sure folks in Texas will >>>>>> do quite the opposite from me. C'est la vie >>>>>> Hous >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 22, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> How scary journalist publicly taking side in America democracy? >>>>>> >>>>>> What was/is good/bad under Bush maybe another thing completely under >>>>>> Obama. 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