Kejau

Being human or citizen as in this case to perform your civil rights is
different from holding to the professional standards/ethics/norms of
journalism.

Equally a lawyer can/should legally defend his/her client but that is not
to say s/he should lie at court, which in itself is a crime.

America's democracy is in many problems partily because of those things you
just sighted.

When people's watchdogs become interested parties......

Burama

On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Mr. E!.
>
> Journalists are human and as such support of political parties of their
> choices in healthy democracies. I remembered I argued with Suntou Touray
> when I started Gambia Daily News around 2008, well before Kibaro, Kairo
> news or even Gainako, here or on Gambia Post.
> Gambian journalist often pride themselves as not supporting any political
> party openly whilst in the Western world, newspapers and their owners are
> lobbied by political parties to support their stance and they always take a
> stance. For instance in UK, Mirror supports Labour whilst the Sun supports
> the Conservatives.
>
> Kejau
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 13:34:23 -0400
> From: [log in to unmask]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>
> Subject: Re: Journalist Taking Side
> To: [log in to unmask]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>
>
> Demba
>
> Thanks
>
> Burama
>
> On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>> wrote:
>
> You right Burama... But I think one of the reasons these other forces for
> example the UN is because they don't have a unified command under one
> system as you said. Nato is a success story as they have a unified command.
> They succeeded in Libya, Afghanistan, in Yugoslavia etc... They did a lot
> better than the UN peace keeping force.
>
> We should give credit to the UN peace keeping force as well in Darfur,
> Siera Leone, Estimo etc. As I mentioned a similar idea was floated in
> Africa where Nigeria who has more resources and military force can take the
> lead commanding a security force where they can intervene...
>
> I also think it is a good strategic idea for America to move away from
> Unilateralism - going it alone as if they break it their are often stuck
> with the burden to fix it. Their intervention in Libya was a good example
> where they refused to go it alone as compared to Iraq. This is a good
> strategy for the US because problems of the world must be shared with
> others.
>
> Once in a while though America elects a neocon... like George Bush who
> think America should intervene in every part of the world. I like Obama's
> resistance to invading countries. War is expensive and often the poor
> people and soldiers pay for the cost.. So why go it alone if Saudi can pay
> half of the cost to protect their own kingdom... American? Yes, can you
> blame them - well every nation should be protecting their interest first
> and foremost..
>
> Thanks
> Demba
>
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> Demba
>
> I could go along on the idea of Global Force.
>
> Easy in theory & hard in practice. Remember there is UN and supposedly
> should take care of these global issues that cut across national borders.
> It couldn't work well (even peace keeping roles) because there is no
> international standards uphold by all. Equally interests are different.
>
> NATO is another we could consider here. Besides the core role of defending
> the member nation against external aggression, they can hardly agree on
> anything - latest example is Libya intervention (some participate some
> not). In addition NATO is 80/90% America.
>
> The other concern at least from Bill's position is to fill that force with
> non Americans with American command. What's going on here? Is Gambian (any
> other nationality) son/daughter expendable than American son/daughter? In
> short I am troubled with the idea that they will be in the air and someone
> else take the ground - at least the manner is sold!
>
> America may not police the world nor should they pay for all these
> conflicts but if America ID ISIS as a national security problem, unless
> they can find someone else who view that organization the same they have to
> do the job to take them out. I don't think that a problem for instance for
> Gambia today. And Gambia may participate in an international effort but
> when you tell us to grad the worst end.......
>
> The Arab leaders and the trillions.......another story!
>
> Regards
>
> Burama
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Burama,
>
> I don't agree with O'reilly much but I like that idea of a global force
> (just like the UN peace keeping).. The fact is that will prevent America
> from not only using its military but paying for everything to police the
> world... Those ignoramus leaders in the middle east and Africa sitting on
> trillions of wealth will pay for the wars and America can safe some money...
>
> Since they are expected to intervene in every conflict zone in the world,
> why not form that global force? I think Africa can benefit from forming its
> own peace keeping force to force those petty dictators from killing their
> people for nothing...
>
> thanks
>
> Demba
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> Did you listen to Bill Oreilly’s Talking Point Memo this evening……..He
> suggested forming a Global Mercenary fighting force under American control.
>
> Am all for routing out evil. But America has National Army - why not
> deploy them? I guess my question is - who’re the  alien people to be this
> supposed  fighting machine (the expendables) and not Americans? Sounds
> familiar - ‘no booths on the ground’ but expecting someone be there.
>
> The second point is - if the threat is serious enough, its the president's
> responsibility to explain to citizens why the need to fight that
> fight………instead public opinion is dictating their thoughts and action.
> Unfortunately the public are not preview to all intelligent matters.
> Journalists! Politicians!……..
>
> Home front………many of us also settled on the notion that someone will solve
> our problems. Different nation and different subject matter but the same
> mindset. It hardly work!
>
> Burama
>
> On Sep 22, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Husainou <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Solo that is why we've got two parties and also one of reasons Fox News
> Network and MSNBC are around .The country is colored in red,blue ,purple
> states. I'm New York resident, always love to read the Daily News and
> favorite news channels are MSNBC and CNN. I'm sure folks in Texas will do
> quite the opposite from me. C'est la vie
> Hous
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 22, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> How scary journalist publicly taking side in America democracy?
>
> What was/is good/bad under Bush maybe another thing completely under
> Obama. And you can use any 2 presidents of opposing parties - only
> differences are is now getting more obvious.
>
> I always thought journalism is something opposite to that.
>
> Burama
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