Demba
The mad man is our own creation.
If those countries are any better then I will contend they have a more
vibrant civil population than we do.
Burama
On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Am with you Burama... Words with action.. Whether you know it or not
> action is being actively taken. As Dr. Jaiteh said they are not for public
> forums.. Agitate, agitate and agitate... And yes Burama those countries
> have began the path to Democracy and it will be left to their citizens to
> make it happen.. We have not started because of the road block. And yes
> those countries are better as their citizens are not disappearing in thin
> area, their journalists are not being murdered, their students are not
> being massacre... as it happened in Gambia... Their Presidents are not
> claiming to cure aids or barren or Ebola... We have a mad man Burama..
>
> Thanks and good night
>
> Demba
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>> wrote:
>
>> Demba
>>
>> All the countries you mentioned are no different from Gambia - one way or
>> another. Just because they hold election or some transition. Isn't that
>> what Gambia did some 18 years ago.
>>
>> Don't fall to rhetoric. Am not against you in this struggle - but hoping
>> will not cut it. Am simply being realistic!
>>
>> I told you this before and I will repeat it - if we are that ready,
>> aware, inform, needy, etc. as you claimed, why wait for another leader to
>> utilize our new capabilities- let's begin with Yahya. After all you said
>> he's the problem. Something is missing with that logic.
>>
>> We can put words together, we can convince ourselves on this or that-
>> Demba nothing will happen on our terms until we get up and start doing
>> something about it. Its a hard work but we can do it. I happily call you to
>> join me in that marketing.
>>
>> Burama
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>> wrote:
>>
>>> Burama,
>>>
>>> In Guinea Conakry a junior military officer took out Captain Dada who
>>> staged a military coup... What do we have in Guinea today? In Mali there
>>> was a military take over from Tumani Toure, what do we have in Mali today -
>>> a transition to civilian. In Guinea Bissau there was a military take over
>>> several of them- they just concluded an election and a civilian is in
>>> charge... Africa of yesterday and today are different. The world have seen
>>> what military cum civilian leaders are made up and they are not standing
>>> and watching... In Burkina Faso there is attempt to instill a military
>>> dictatorship - guess what is happening ECOWAS, AU and the International
>>> community are on them..pressure for civilian rule...
>>>
>>> Yes, the Gambian people are desperate for change and not any change but
>>> change that will give us the chance to redirect the fight for democracy...
>>> If there is any military push against Yahya I guarantee you that military
>>> will no longer survive in Gambia or enjoy the same benefits of the doubt
>>> that was given to Yahya... we learned our lesson the hard way. Gambian
>>> families whose love ones are disappearing or being incarcerated everyday
>>> and youths who are being arrested and detained are desperate and yes, I am
>>> desperate to get rid of Yahya by all means possible.. We will then draw new
>>> battle lines with the new reality of the world... Get him outta there
>>> through a bullet or what have you... He is an enemy of the nation period..
>>>
>>> Demba
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Demba
>>>>
>>>> I want to think we are not that desperate to out source The Gambia
>>>> problem to another military junta. SM Dibba and his NCP in some ways told
>>>> us Jawara and PPP were up to no good - our response, he was jealous and
>>>> tribalist. Yahya came we dance and surprised ourselves as the revelations
>>>> of the commissions were strange. Whether am loved or not we will be faced
>>>> with what am selling today - so my advice is to look at the messages and
>>>> not the messengers.
>>>>
>>>> You are wrong tomthink a supposed coup is legitimate because is against
>>>> Yahya - it's in not lawful. That's not to say if someone remove Yahya by
>>>> coup I will sadden. One thing is almost certain a military coup will only
>>>> produce a dictatorship. By stretching thought line of thought ( anything
>>>> but Yahya) - the whole purpose of our struggle is muddied up and worth not
>>>> our fight. We are better than that!
>>>>
>>>> Please look at Gambia as your/our goal. Only use Yahya's wrong as a
>>>> motivation. I believe you will find an independent legitimate goal for
>>>> your/our actions/inactions bigger than Yahya. Let's reclaim our republic -
>>>> that's legitimate!
>>>>
>>>> My immediate problem with the Yahya-obsessive-syndrome is the
>>>> inenabling effect. Now it appears we have resigned to leaving it to Godly
>>>> intervention. Isnt that sad with all our smart folks?
>>>>
>>>> Nonetheless if I am shown practical political ways to remove Yahya - I
>>>> will join that fight. But I will not support a military efforts - I
>>>> rather stay quiet in US.
>>>>
>>>> Burama
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There is a legitimate ground to stage a coup against Yahya. He
>>>>> continue to celebrate an illegal unconstitutional take over of a government
>>>>> and he continue to violate every aspect of the law of the land. So as much
>>>>> as I don't trust uniform men with power, I am damn well open to fighting
>>>>> another uniform men with a different reality of the world today than when
>>>>> Yahya came. We won't be burned three times Burama! We have learned enough..
>>>>> full me once, twice shame on you.. the third time is on me...
>>>>>
>>>>> Demba
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Burama Jammeh <
>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Demba
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My marketing role is to try convince you that - Yahya is a problem
>>>>>> and not the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's go after the problem - the end result will get rid of Yahya
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Burama
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Burama, you have to admit that in fact '*Yahya is the problem and a
>>>>>>> problem'. *Are there other problems of course, will there be other
>>>>>>> problems of course but as you often say Identify the problem before
>>>>>>> tackling the solution... You must define* everything involving
>>>>>>> Yahya Jammeh as a fundamenta*l *problem* before we find a solution
>>>>>>> to the other questions... This is where the effort to find a solution will
>>>>>>> begin. I guarantee you the fight for a functioning Democracy in Gambia and
>>>>>>> Africa in General will outlive you and all of us here... we can only do our
>>>>>>> part to the best of our abilities and let the next generation pick up where
>>>>>>> we left off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks to both of you for a fruitful discussion.... A journey with
>>>>>>> thousand miles begin with a step... the restoration of the fight for
>>>>>>> democracy and rule of law begins with elimination of Yahya Jammeh and his
>>>>>>> likes... with or without him we will continue to fight...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Demba
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Burama Jammeh <
>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Malanding
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's very clear!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're a big brother and mentor so I have no interest personalizing
>>>>>>>> our discussion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your rationale is problematic though! Yahya is a problem but not
>>>>>>>> the problem. We couldnt progress because we made Yahay our goal. Because
>>>>>>>> he's 800lbs and we are 10 lbs or less - it can't work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Our goal is and should be A Democratic Gambia. Simply digging this
>>>>>>>> out will provide many outlets that you, me and all else can do something to
>>>>>>>> begin the change. I will be Ben go further to predict that until we put our
>>>>>>>> arms around this common legitimate claim ours all else will fail at some
>>>>>>>> stage. No wonder 20 years of call to unity gone nowhere - b cause the
>>>>>>>> agenda is not common.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This notion that Yahya would/won't is self inflicted defeat. Why
>>>>>>>> should we care Yahya when we opposed almost everything he does? Yahya is
>>>>>>>> not and can't stop us. Yahya should In fact serve as a motivator for our
>>>>>>>> cause.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you focus on message and not the messengers am confident you
>>>>>>>> will see my view point. Is a different matter whether you agree or disagree.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Burama
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Burama,
>>>>>>>>> I will not question your sincerity or call you names. That is not
>>>>>>>>> who I am. My point before and now is, little of the 6 points you listed
>>>>>>>>> can be implemented while the proverbial "800 pound gorilla" is in the
>>>>>>>>> Gambia's political space.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Malanding
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/11/2014 1:06 PM, Burama Jammeh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Malanding
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good that you tell them elections against Yahya is not the way
>>>>>>>>> at this point! I stopped a party earlier on and I also did; the party not
>>>>>>>>> listening didn’t stop me, after all is Gambia and I have my equity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not enough to stop there - because that means leaving it to
>>>>>>>>> divine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It also saddened me to hear you said "is there fight and not
>>>>>>>>> yours" - where’re you in this? Its your fight and there is no one to do it
>>>>>>>>> for you. This is one aspect of our problem - an enlightened like you
>>>>>>>>> amongst us throw in the towel……….
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you’re suggesting am pontificating and doing academic
>>>>>>>>> niceties - i must admit I suspect that from your first respond. Instead of
>>>>>>>>> dwelling on the merits/demerits of my posting but went to tell me there are
>>>>>>>>> many smart Gambians. My interpretation of that is ‘am acting as smart ass’.
>>>>>>>>> Am not bordered what you think am doing. Small or big I earned what I
>>>>>>>>> turned out to be.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My sincere efforts are directed to igniting interest to take on
>>>>>>>>> the evil at home as i see it. I hope to convinced others - that’s all I can
>>>>>>>>> task myself as an individual. If me writing down my views is pontification
>>>>>>>>> or academic niceties - am proud to have such earned ability.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Burama
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Malanding Jaiteh <
>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Burama,
>>>>>>>>> Your question: "have you ever suggest to those busy trying for
>>>>>>>>> almost 20 years to put the opposition together for another election that
>>>>>>>>> Yahya is calling shots in Banjul? "
>>>>>>>>> My answer: Yes, way back in 1995. First we warned them not to
>>>>>>>>> participate in elections with Yahya on the ballot. For that will
>>>>>>>>> effectively legitimize his tenure and they did not heed! Then we asked
>>>>>>>>> them to come together as a unified group (NADD), they did not heed. Now
>>>>>>>>> what do I say to them? Nothing! It is their fight not mine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You see this democracy we all cherish in the United States was
>>>>>>>>> only instituted AFTER they forced Her Majesty's British empire to
>>>>>>>>> reluctantly give-up. And that was not done through pontification or
>>>>>>>>> academic niceties either.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Malanding
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/11/2014 12:24 PM, Burama Jammeh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Malanding
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now we are back to the good debate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Somewhere in my posting I said we can debate how this can be
>>>>>>>>> attain - that suggests I know it will neither drop on the head of Yahya
>>>>>>>>> nor will he be happy with our faces to embrace it.
>>>>>>>>> In short something above, below and/or around Yahya has to happen
>>>>>>>>> - when we did that; it will not be up to Yahya who calls shots in Banjul.
>>>>>>>>> We will eventually call the shots
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is why am a bit troubled about your rationale ("Yahya
>>>>>>>>> will/will not…")- have you ever suggest to those busy trying for almost 20
>>>>>>>>> years to put the opposition together for another election that Yahya is
>>>>>>>>> calling shots in Banjul? Thought if he wouldn’t allow a constitution
>>>>>>>>> re-write equally he wouldn’t allow anyone declare a winner in an election
>>>>>>>>> he’s the contestant. That leaves us with nothing other than divine
>>>>>>>>> intervention
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My proposal was a strip-down version of my views - it only shows
>>>>>>>>> what our end goals are to make Gambia ‘A Functioning Institutional
>>>>>>>>> Democracy’. I didn’t put there what i think could be done to get there.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I hope you would agree should democratic forces take over Gambia
>>>>>>>>> today - we would need a better constitution (hence a rewrite); new rule of
>>>>>>>>> law and due process regimes, build the capacity of our people (to sustain
>>>>>>>>> democracy) and collect and manage basic social data for both inform
>>>>>>>>> decision making and accountability
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I’m fully aware that we are currently at the end of
>>>>>>>>> weakness……our first task should be to move to strength (amass political
>>>>>>>>> leverage) and only then Yahya will have incentive to give-in to demands of
>>>>>>>>> a democratic movement of the people of Gambia.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This can’t and will neither be done by aliens nor by divine
>>>>>>>>> intervention. It will be done by people of The Gambia hopefully led by
>>>>>>>>> those you know to be smart amongst us.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That’s my view! That’s all I share! My only one hope is to
>>>>>>>>> ignite interest that we take another crack at it but from a different
>>>>>>>>> perspective.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Burama
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Burama,
>>>>>>>>> I am afraid I can not answer your many questions (time limitation)
>>>>>>>>> but will assure you that I am not dismissing your proposal. All I am trying
>>>>>>>>> to do is to put things in perspective. That "re-write of the constitution,
>>>>>>>>> create environment and mechanisms to uphold the constitution" and the
>>>>>>>>> like will not fly when Mr. Jammeh is calling the shots in Banjul.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Malanding
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/11/2014 11:26 AM, Burama Jammeh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Malanding
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Great biblical perspectives!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's wrong with what I proposed? Or shouldn't I throw that in
>>>>>>>>> the chat room? Or did I suggest that there are short supply of smart
>>>>>>>>> Gambians? Many questions.....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your take about how dictators behave is well placed. However I
>>>>>>>>> couldn't connect it as a response to what I post. Unless you are alluding
>>>>>>>>> to leave Yahya alone because he's too dangerous and his reactions are
>>>>>>>>> unpredictable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To add - however crazy or dangerous Yahya and people like him
>>>>>>>>> maybe, it's a problem for us to fix. No other person on the face of the
>>>>>>>>> earth will do it for us. After 20 years and counting each of us should be
>>>>>>>>> able to tell the other what we think is the best option. That wouldn't me
>>>>>>>>> the other will agree but at least it shows........ That's what I did!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To brush aside everything! Or to say no to everything! Or to
>>>>>>>>> hope that the problem will go away by itself.....Or to rely on some devine
>>>>>>>>> intervention! Or to wait for another coup....etc. will not happen and if it
>>>>>>>>> does we will be trampled by the new sheriff.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My hope is we use those histories you cited to shape our own
>>>>>>>>> destiny on our own terms. We failed to fix the Jawara problem. Yahya
>>>>>>>>> came with the promises to fix it and many danced - now we know he is worst.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Where are the smart people? Are they truly smart? Why didn't they
>>>>>>>>> fix it? Why did they create it? Maybe smart for the wrong reasons after all
>>>>>>>>> .......
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are you suggesting my proposal has no merit? Are you suggesting
>>>>>>>>> we wait for Devine intervention? Again I am not getting your point.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Finally I will be glad we work behind close doors to come up
>>>>>>>>> with a solution if that's the proffered approach. As there is no such
>>>>>>>>> efforts, at least not known to me, I choose to put up my views in
>>>>>>>>> the public domain. The purpose is to entice Gambians to begin some good
>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Burama
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Malanding Jaiteh <
>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Burama,
>>>>>>>>>> It is not be about what you or I prefer, it is what the situation
>>>>>>>>>> demands. The Gambia under Jammeh is nothing new in this world, from the
>>>>>>>>>> "immortal" Pharoah in the people of the book to infamous mortals like
>>>>>>>>>> Pinochet, Idi Amin, Bokassa, Samuel Doe, Mobutu, Saikou Toure, Saddam,
>>>>>>>>>> Qadafi and now Campoare. All comes down to man consumed by urge to be
>>>>>>>>>> alpha-dog among their peers. I am not a psycho-analyst but these people
>>>>>>>>>> can hardly contained themselves when challenged. And history has taught us
>>>>>>>>>> that none of these chaps wake up in morning and say they give-up or retire.
>>>>>>>>>> In fact the contrary is true. To them each day is consumed by what can they
>>>>>>>>>> do to last even longer, first making sure they "newlal" their hair as gray
>>>>>>>>>> suggests mortality. In addition to maintaining their youthful image, they
>>>>>>>>>> want to us to perceive them as daring machos who will bring down the sky if
>>>>>>>>>> provoked! And they mean that too. Those infected by this power bug can not
>>>>>>>>>> safe themselves, and literally have to be subdued!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Subdue does not necessarily mean we must go to war. We were told
>>>>>>>>>> the Pharoah was so powerful that the Almighty God had to be directly
>>>>>>>>>> involved in his subdue! Our most recent mortals had to be wrestled,
>>>>>>>>>> sometimes forcefully. The trouble is even in the dog world, a deposed
>>>>>>>>>> alpha-dog is at best kicked out of the pack and often left to die a
>>>>>>>>>> miserable death! Unlike you and I who do not live the life of alpha-dog,
>>>>>>>>>> these guys know exactly what it means to lose and as such will do
>>>>>>>>>> everything in their power to prolong their tenure! The fact is the longer
>>>>>>>>>> these folks stay in control the more damage they do themselves, the country
>>>>>>>>>> and people they claim to love.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As to responding to you question on "how do we subdue the knife
>>>>>>>>>> guy (Yahya) .."? The people of the book taught us that even the Almighty
>>>>>>>>>> God conspired against the Pharoah by hiding from him the identity of "boy"
>>>>>>>>>> (Musa) or his methods, whose destiny would be to end his rule. In other
>>>>>>>>>> words, such methods are best discussed in backrooms and not chat rooms!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Malanding
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/11/2014 12:29 AM, Burama Jammeh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Malanding
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Share how do we subdue the knife guy (Yahya) first - if that’s
>>>>>>>>>> your preferred approach?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If others preferred the various approaches you referred to - I
>>>>>>>>>> preferred as in the original posting - where am I wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Burama
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Malanding Jaiteh <
>>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Burama,
>>>>>>>>>> Some will argue that Mr. Jammeh's hold on the Gambia is no
>>>>>>>>>> different from a lone guy holding hostage a bus load of passengers. It's
>>>>>>>>>> all about "hedging one's bet". When life is threatened some prefer to
>>>>>>>>>> "play dead" or "surrender the cash box" so to speak until they are sure
>>>>>>>>>> what the future holds. Yes we can blame the "enablers", "collaborators" or
>>>>>>>>>> the Almighty God who created mankind that raised the knife-wielding
>>>>>>>>>> thug? Most people will want to first subdue the knife wielding maniac, "
>>>>>>>>>> jump on the guy when the chance is right" before putting in place controls
>>>>>>>>>> to avoid another incident.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Malanding
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/10/2014 4:35 PM, Burama Jammeh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your rationale at best is flawed and worst is wrong. You said
>>>>>>>>>> bunch of smart people but one person (Yahya) trampled on is all. You may be
>>>>>>>>>> right many smart people but our problem has nothing or little to do with
>>>>>>>>>> smartness. After all of our political problems are the creation of these
>>>>>>>>>> supposed smart people and not the farmers, vendors and tax drivers, etc.
>>>>>>>>>> More importantly though, if your characterization of Yahya holds did you
>>>>>>>>>> ever told other efforts such as contesting elections against Yahya is
>>>>>>>>>> futile?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I mentioned that in fact our laws weren't too bad but the
>>>>>>>>>> implementation - that until enough requisite capacity obtain amongst our
>>>>>>>>>> people functioning democracy will never show up at our shores.
>>>>>>>>>> These problems started long before Yahya and likely to continue if we
>>>>>>>>>> should succeed with the current election agenda. The only difference is -
>>>>>>>>>> it will be another person.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let me agree with you for a moment - let the smart people come
>>>>>>>>>> out and tell us what we can/could do. Is not enough to say Yahya is so bad
>>>>>>>>>> that about 2 million population has not solution with all that smart people.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will submit that the supposed smart folks are our problem -
>>>>>>>>>> they created everything that's wrong in country. Fifty years and counting -
>>>>>>>>>> cut a check at the office of accountant general - 5 minutes later no one
>>>>>>>>>> can trace its route with documentation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I salute the farmers, vendors, masoner, carpenters, tax drivers,
>>>>>>>>>> etc. who pay their taxes and/or royalties and in return not loot the
>>>>>>>>>> public coffer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is not insinuating that every learned Gambian is bad - am
>>>>>>>>>> only saying amongst them we grow all these problems.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Burama
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 10, 2014, Malanding Jaiteh <
>>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Burama,
>>>>>>>>>>> To answer your question at the end, this is pure poppycock to
>>>>>>>>>>> put it mildly, as long as Mr. Jammeh calls the shots in Banjul! The
>>>>>>>>>>> Gambia's problem is not about lack of smart people, or lack of good ideas
>>>>>>>>>>> or good laws. The problem is twenty years ago someone decided to take the
>>>>>>>>>>> government BY FORCE!! During these years he removed long-term civil
>>>>>>>>>>> servants at will and without compensation for their service, incarcerated
>>>>>>>>>>> citizens for refusing to give up their properties and businesses,
>>>>>>>>>>> executed military officers for "conspiring against him" without the right
>>>>>>>>>>> to a fair trial, and even denied the remains of opponents to be interred
>>>>>>>>>>> in the Gambia. Go read the current constitution and tell me where such acts
>>>>>>>>>>> are condone.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now how do you re-write the constitution, create environment and
>>>>>>>>>>> mechanisms to uphold the constitution when Mr. Jammeh is calling the shots
>>>>>>>>>>> in Banjul? Really?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Malanding Jaiteh
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/10/2014 1:32 PM, Burama Jammeh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Rewrite the constitution:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - that recognizes The Gambia as a republic and the
>>>>>>>>>>> people have collective responsibility to manage it (the constitution didn’t
>>>>>>>>>>> create the republic)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - that numerates our rights as a recognition but not
>>>>>>>>>>> creation hence guarantee their maximum protection
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - create a limited, separated and decentralized
>>>>>>>>>>> governance structure with clearly defined authorities
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - free the constitution of matters are should be
>>>>>>>>>>> legislated such as parastatal divesture
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - limit the role of the presidency to half a page (font
>>>>>>>>>>> 11) and the whole constitution 25 pages or less
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - etc
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Create environment and mechanisms to uphold and defend
>>>>>>>>>>> the constitution. This is difficult than writing one. This is where we have
>>>>>>>>>>> always failed. Our constitution as is not terrible but the adherence is
>>>>>>>>>>> almost 100% none existence. To ensure such will not be a one off activity
>>>>>>>>>>> but multiple level and task efforts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Rule of law the dictator of everything state
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Due process of law dictator of everything state
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 5) Maintenance of basic social data for inform decision
>>>>>>>>>>> making and accountability
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 6) Capacity building – a people can’t sustain democracy if
>>>>>>>>>>> they do not acquire the requisite capacity to live a life of a democrat
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Numbers 2 is the most difficult task here. Numbers 6 is the most
>>>>>>>>>>> important and is only possible with a tangible republican environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is the(a) only common agenda. This is the only agenda that
>>>>>>>>>>> guaranteed equal opportunity Gambia for all of us.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Giving the current political and socioeconomic environment in
>>>>>>>>>>> The Gambia and our disjointed struggle – how do we do this?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The first essential step is communication…lets begin the
>>>>>>>>>>> discussion of what really matters.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Burama
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