The heart of the matter is this: A defender of Bill Cosby must, effectively, conjure a vast conspiracy, created to bring down one man, seemingly just out of spite. And people will do this work of conjuration, because it is hard to accept that people we love in one arena can commit great evil in another. It is hard to believe that Bill Cosby is a serial rapist because the belief doesn't just indict Cosby, it indicts us. It damns us for drawing intimate conclusions about people based on pudding-pop commercials and popular TV shows. It destroys our ability to lean on icons for our morality. And it forces us back into a world where seemingly good men do unspeakably evil things, and this is just the chaos of human history.
And one cannot escape this chaos by hiding behind the lack of a court conviction. O.J. Simpson was not convicted in court for murdering his ex-wife. The men accused of killing Emmett Till were found innocent. ("If we hadn't stopped to drink pop, it wouldn't have taken that long," mused one of them.) Police and government forces conspired to kill a Black Panther, Fred Hampton. They were never criminally prosecuted in any court
Courts belong to the society, not the other way around. This is why many Americans scoff at the idea that O.J. was never convicted of killing his wife. And this is why many other Americans scoff at the idea that the government didn't kill Fred Hampton. Ducking behind an official finding is kind of cowardice that allows us the luxury of never facing hard questions. Cowardice can be insidious. Sometimes it is a physical fear. Other times it's just taking the easy out.
いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいBurama,If he did it to all those women or just to one woman for that matter, then I would say he definitely has issues within himself that need addressing pronto and a lot of forgiveness seeking for creating a horrifying experience for those involved.Also, I put a disclaimer before I brought up the Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas case by stating, "for whatever reason". I was not comparing the two cases for their similarities or differences but, rather felt a similar and personal feeling of deep sadness remembering the look on Anita's face, having to share her experience to the world - it is somehow as strenuous as living through the degrading act itself. I just meant, I can see why the difficulty in speaking out.I do and will always advocate, that woman do report any forms of violence or aggression asap even though being further exposed to a hospital visit to gather evidence and having to tell the police what happened is no small feat. Having to face the person who violated you, equally no small feat and waiting for a decision and what the decision is, no small feat.So you advocate buying sex? Interesting. I think in my 101 book of illegal activities buying/selling sex is mentioned.Chris
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ChrisSo is he a monster to molest so many over long period?Thomas is accused by one - is there a good comparison here? This one looks like serial.....!Because us so many I want it think there is truth somewhere he did something they didn't approve of. I can't say that for Thomas' case because is a single individual. However that doesn't make her case not true.Either way why such an iconic figure who can get pretty much anything money can buy do this is beyond. Go buy sex - is for sale everywhere.Buramaいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html
On Friday, November 21, 2014, Halima Sukuna <[log in to unmask]> wrote:いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.htmlI am not puzzled at all. Every person has their own time of bringing out whatever trauma they have suffered at the hands of another. The same goes for the person with the issue where they have done something regrettable to another. None of it is easy to go through and the person lives with it for the rest of their life. Who they chose to share it with (the police, a jury, a therapist, a friend, a family member) and when they chose to share such personal information with can vary from person to person with the motivation being varied as well.For whatever reason, this is making the Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas case resurface in my mind regarding a sexual harassment case against her then boss (Clarence Thomas). The case went in favor of Clarence Thomas and I still can clearly see the expression on her face and felt very affected by it.I find it to be very sad for all involved.Chris
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Is Cosby a monster? No . He has done a lot of good things. Monsters know no good. Why would such a guy do such a this? He is human so he is not perfect. Are all the allegations true ? Probably . Should he seek help ? Yes.Here again hold your guns. We've just heard one side of the story. I'm equally puzzled as you are, why victims have to wait years to come forward. All those victims are educated , are not aliens and this is not some third world country . Why now ? Is it for dignity or monetary ? That's where the argument starts.Hous
Sent from my iPadWhy would such a guy - famous, rich, iconic, etc. prey on those he want to sleep with? Ain't there my ways he could succeed without deceit?Sex educators and psychoanalysts please help out with this one.Buramaいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html
On Friday, November 21, 2014, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:Is he really the monster he is made to be lately?If all the stories are true ..... The guy maybe a walking sex machine. Meet a woman in a lobby or some waiting place and put your penis in his mouth. Higher sexual desires about average I guess.Why do they keep quiet so long? Why come out now in a chain reactionJust another human interest story for me.BuramaTo Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.htmlTo Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいTo Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいTo Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい