I am equally shocked with the allegations against the great Bill Cosby! I
have no idea if he did it or not and anything I add would be purely
speculative. One thing I know which is not speculative is that there is a
system in this country that helps address the wrong being done to people.
Rape or sexual assault is a serious matter and certainly these women were
not minors. If these people have gone ahead and file lawsuits against Cosby
and allow the system to take its cause. It would have been more
convincing. Of course it is always harder to proof allegations where is
his words vs her words.
The second portion is what do these women hope to be able to achieve going
to the media instead of the courts? Again is easier said that done but
accusers tend to lose credibility when they are only interested in the
court of public opinion instead of seriously filing a lawsuit. If it is
worth speaking to CNN it is certainly worth working with your husband or
family to file a lawsuit.
Whether he did it or not may the truth prevail and may every one of us be
accountable for our actions good or bad. America has a nasty culture of
building their people and then bring them down like a rock. Reminds me the
great football legend at Penn State where Children were involved. The whole
thing is sickening if you ask me...
May the truth prevail.
Thanks
Demba
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> Hous
>
> An interesting take - polygamy will reduce what he’s alleged of doing. You
> may have a point. Others some may disagree.
>
> Burama
>
>
> On Nov 24, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Husainou A Waggeh <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> If these women are coming out now for the sake of their dignity, why
> accept the dough. Really puzzling. I don't condone Cosby's actions, don't
> tell it's okay to women to accept money from him . This why I'm a strong
> advocate for polygamy. Dr Huxtable is the opposite of Billy Cosby .
> Hous
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 24, 2014, at 9:02 AM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> Bill Cosby - now they saying "he paid women". One of his cast members also
> put out a very suspicious tweet "......nothing stays in the dark 4ever"
>
> Illegal in America - but I thought is always paid for either in marriage,
> boyfriend/girlfriend or other forms of arrangement (I mean you have to put
> in something not necessarily just money).
>
> Just being sarcastic!
>
> The guy is sex machine if these allegations are true.
>
> Burama
>
> On Saturday, November 22, 2014, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Burama
>>
>> On Saturday, November 22, 2014, ousman ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Burama,
>>>
>>> Ta-nehisi Coates (one of my favorite writers) has a great take on this
>>> Cosby issue. Needless to say, i agree with most of what he said in his
>>> Atlantic magazine write up. Here is a snippet:
>>>
>>> The heart of the matter is this: A defender of Bill Cosby must,
>>> effectively, conjure a vast conspiracy, created to bring down one man,
>>> seemingly just out of spite. And people will do this work of conjuration,
>>> because it is hard to accept that people we love in one arena can commit
>>> great evil in another. It is hard to believe that Bill Cosby is a serial
>>> rapist because the belief doesn't just indict Cosby, it indicts us. It
>>> damns us for drawing intimate conclusions about people based on pudding-pop
>>> commercials and popular TV shows. It destroys our ability to lean on icons
>>> for our morality. And it forces us back into a world where seemingly good
>>> men do unspeakably evil things, and this is just the chaos of human history.
>>>
>>>
>>> And one cannot escape this chaos by hiding behind the lack of a court
>>> conviction. O.J. Simpson was not convicted in court for murdering his
>>> ex-wife. The men accused of killing Emmett Till were found innocent. ("If
>>> we hadn't stopped to drink pop, it wouldn't have taken that long," mused
>>> one of them.) Police and government forces conspired to kill a Black
>>> Panther, Fred Hampton. They were never criminally prosecuted in any court
>>>
>>> Courts belong to the society, not the other way around. This is why many
>>> Americans scoff at the idea that O.J. was never convicted of killing his
>>> wife. And this is why many other Americans scoff at the idea that the
>>> government didn't kill Fred Hampton. Ducking behind an official finding is
>>> kind of cowardice that allows us the luxury of never facing hard questions.
>>> Cowardice can be insidious. Sometimes it is a physical fear. Other times
>>> it's just taking the easy out.
>>>
>>>
>>> Read the whole thing here:
>>> http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/11/the-cosby-show/382891/?single_page=true
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 02:19:00 -0500
>>> From: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Bill Cosby
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>> Don't meant to imply anything. The whole thing is rather bemusing
>>> from both sides.
>>>
>>> Like someone said these are well informed women to know that reporting
>>> it early is one better remedy.
>>>
>>> On the other hand such an icon acting as alleged is troubling to say the
>>> least, he must have a high sec drive. More troubling he is driving them
>>> with supposed pills - where is he getting that. The rich and famous. I
>>> can't get a basic antibiotic unless I paid a doctor to lodge a complaint of
>>> some infection.
>>>
>>> Frankly am not a moralist - I see nothing wrong with buying and selling
>>> sex. After all many of the transactions is selling and buying either
>>> directly and/or indirectly. Where society is ready to accept legalizing
>>> some drugs..... Why not such a very marketable/like able commodity -
>>> religions and traditions notwithstanding.
>>>
>>> Have you heard what's happening in The Gambia - teen girls girls caring
>>> whole families without a job. Source of earnings - brothers/uncles, many
>>> stealing form public trust. Not called buying and selling but what is it.
>>> Am not excluded either - ask me what I personally did privately!
>>>
>>> I concur with your points!
>>>
>>> How about Hermann Cain - one time Republican presidential candidate. He
>>> was knocked out by back to back 2 or 3 allegations of inappropriate sexual
>>> advances in the middle of campaign. I must say I felt his responses where
>>> inadequate and up date left me feeling he must know something about
>>> what those women I talking about.
>>>
>>> Please ask me in private what I meant many sexual transactions are
>>> buying and selling (paid for cash or kind). I don't want to be in trouble.
>>>
>>> Burama
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 22, 2014, Halima Sukuna <
>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Burama,
>>>
>>> If he did it to all those women or just to one woman for that matter,
>>> then I would say he definitely has issues within himself that need
>>> addressing pronto and a lot of forgiveness seeking for creating a
>>> horrifying experience for those involved.
>>>
>>> Also, I put a disclaimer before I brought up the Anita Hill/Clarence
>>> Thomas case by stating, "for whatever reason". I was not comparing the two
>>> cases for their similarities or differences but, rather felt a similar and
>>> personal feeling of deep sadness remembering the look on Anita's face,
>>> having to share her experience to the world - it is somehow as strenuous as
>>> living through the degrading act itself. I just meant, I can see why the
>>> difficulty in speaking out.
>>>
>>> I do and will always advocate, that woman do report any forms of
>>> violence or aggression asap even though being further exposed to a hospital
>>> visit to gather evidence and having to tell the police what happened is no
>>> small feat. Having to face the person who violated you, equally no small
>>> feat and waiting for a decision and what the decision is, no small feat.
>>>
>>>
>>> So you advocate buying sex? Interesting. I think in my 101 book of
>>> illegal activities buying/selling sex is mentioned.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>
>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>> *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2014 8:25 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [G_L] Bill Cosby
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> So is he a monster to molest so many over long period?
>>>
>>> Thomas is accused by one - is there a good comparison here? This one
>>> looks like serial.....!
>>>
>>> Because us so many I want it think there is truth somewhere he did
>>> something they didn't approve of. I can't say that for Thomas' case because
>>> is a single individual. However that doesn't make her case not true.
>>>
>>> Either way why such an iconic figure who can get pretty much anything
>>> money can buy do this is beyond. Go buy sex - is for sale everywhere.
>>>
>>> Burama
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 21, 2014, Halima Sukuna <
>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not puzzled at all. Every person has their own time of bringing out
>>> whatever trauma they have suffered at the hands of another. The same goes
>>> for the person with the issue where they have done something regrettable to
>>> another. None of it is easy to go through and the person lives with it for
>>> the rest of their life. Who they chose to share it with (the police, a
>>> jury, a therapist, a friend, a family member) and when they chose to
>>> share such personal information with can vary from person to person with
>>> the motivation being varied as well.
>>>
>>> For whatever reason, this is making the Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas case
>>> resurface in my mind regarding a sexual harassment case against her then
>>> boss (Clarence Thomas). The case went in favor of Clarence Thomas and I
>>> still can clearly see the expression on her face and felt very affected by
>>> it.
>>>
>>> I find it to be very sad for all involved.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Husainou A Waggeh <
>>> [log in to unmask]>
>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>> *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2014 5:59 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [G_L] Bill Cosby
>>>
>>> Is Cosby a monster? No . He has done a lot of good things. Monsters know
>>> no good. Why would such a guy do such a this? He is human so he is not
>>> perfect. Are all the allegations true ? Probably . Should he seek help ?
>>> Yes.
>>> Here again hold your guns. We've just heard one side of the story. I'm
>>> equally puzzled as you are, why victims have to wait years to come forward.
>>> All those victims are educated , are not aliens and this is not some third
>>> world country . Why now ? Is it for dignity or monetary ? That's where
>>> the argument starts.
>>> Hous
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 21, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Why would such a guy - famous, rich, iconic, etc. prey on those he want
>>> to sleep with? Ain't there my ways he could succeed without deceit?
>>>
>>> Sex educators and psychoanalysts please help out with this one.
>>>
>>> Burama
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 21, 2014, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is he really the monster he is made to be lately?
>>>
>>> If all the stories are true ..... The guy maybe a walking sex machine.
>>> Meet a woman in a lobby or some waiting place and put your penis in his
>>> mouth. Higher sexual desires about average I guess.
>>>
>>> Why do they keep quiet so long? Why come out now in a chain reaction
>>>
>>> Just another human interest story for me.
>>>
>>> Burama
>>>
>>>
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