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Ous,
Thanks. Disagreeing is healthy and progressive. Sharing views and opinions -
intellectual discourse - is pertinent.
We shall all keep thinking to make suggestions on how best to make this
world a better place for all.
Cheers.
Alieu
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>Alieu,
>Keep up the good job. One might not agree with all the contents, but I am
>very proud of you.
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Hi folks,
I also heard the BBC program that had Sheikh on, and found it very interesting,
and informative. It's interesting for the fact that the matter (which I don't
know much about) was at least being discussed, with the help of some new ideas
from The Gambia. And it was informative to hear the contrasting opinions from
Jamaica and The Gambia. I just wondered though how much of the opinion of the
lady from Jamaica was sincere.
Katim
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> Hei Lisa and Modou Mbye,
> Sorry to hear that you did not hear the interview on the outlook . The gist
of
> it was mainly to question the stand the government took in announcing the
> banning of the concept at the end of the current season knowing fully well
that
> it is a popular concept. My reply was simply that tourism in developing
> countries is mainly use as a tool of creating employment among other factors
> i.e. forex.earning ,balance of payment etc. That the concept was started i
an
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Ebrima,
Please be more objective in your so-called analysis and commentaries. You
should not allow your personal dislike of President Jammeh and this
Government to cloud your Judgement. I was not surprised when you wrote:
"And I do not also have any hidden agenda. I don't know what the future
holds for me, but my wish is to continue in the role of a social watch dog,
where I am convinced I will play a far more effective role, because it is a
field where all my instincts drive me. But, of course, if people like Jammeh
were to remain in power, it should not surprise you, if I go into full time
politics".
Those on the list who do not know, Ebrima was actually toying with the idea
of running for the Presidency in 1996 until he realised that he will not
make it, and he dropped the idea for a later date. So, he is already in
politics and this underlying motive, coupled with others, clouds his
judgement. Not to say there is any wrong with that but to point out that he
has a hidden agenda.
Few months ago, I told you to get another "reliable source", but you either
did not take my advice, or you again got the wrong "reliable source". Your
"source" is again misinforming you.
You wrote:
"Presently, I understand that he is a deputy permanent secretary and, prior
to that he had served as a First Secretary at out Embassy in Paris, during
the transition period"
Essa Sey is not a Deputy Permanent Secretary and has never been. Essay Sey
is currently in New York at the Gambian Mission to the UN. He performed so
well in Paris that when The Gambia assumed its seat in the UN Security
Council, he was transferred to strengthen the New York office.
He has been made an Ambassador to France because he knows France, served
there, and above all he is one of the most dynamic diplomats we have out
there. Besides, not only does he speak French fluently, he writes very good
poems in French. For your information, Essay Sey was trained in France as
well.
You see, Ebrima, modern day diplomacy is no longer what diplomacy used to
be. Diplomacy to day, particularly so for Developing countries, is ECOMONIC
DIPLOMACY and PRO-ACTIVE DIPLOMACY. The days of going to endless receptions
and passing back and forth of countless note verbal are gone. Essay Sey is
some one who really understands the phenomenon in the diplomatic field.
Essay, Mambury Njie in Taiwan and Juliana Baldeh in Washington D.C. are
among the few young and dynamic diplomats we have out there. I wish you
"source" could give you the achievements Essay in the diplomatic field,
especially when he was Paris for months as the only diplomat armed with only
a secretary and a financial attache or his performance in New York.
I would be glad to hear from you what are the qualifications for some one to
be appointed an Ambassador.
Do not think your "source" did you a favour by telling you that:
"Ebrima, guess what, Essay Sey is going to be announced as The Gambia's
Ambassador-designate to France…………". This is already common knowledge and
this happened weeks ago, it is really stale news for those within the media
in this country. You are obviously out of touch. Essay and Maodo have been
written to long time ago to inform them of their appointments. The only
reason why these appointments are not yet announced publicly is because the
"agreement" (with French pronunciation) from France and Belgium are not yet
received. Normally when an Ambassador is appointed, the country he/she is
serve is written to request for an "agreement" (pronounced as 'agreema'),
which is basically a written acceptance letter from the host Government.
This process normally takes from two days to six months or more depending on
the bureaucracy, timing and many other factors. So Governments would not
normally announce such appointments until an 'agreema' is received and that
is why these appointments are not yet officially announced.
In your reply to William Njie, you wrote:
"By the way, I was told that Dr Saja Taal, permanent Secretary at the
Ministry of Education, had been sacked for the second time yesterday."
Again you are being misinformed. Dr. Saja Taal is now a Permanent Secretary
to the Office of The President, which is a more influential position than he
previous position. I think you should double-check your facts before writing
them on the list. One of my teachers once said "always make assurance double
sure" before penning down any thing.
The reasons you gave for the transfer of Njogou Bah are absolutely wrong and
at best malicious and speculative. Why write such "facts" if you cannot
substantiate them and in the process, tarnishing the image of these poor
innocent individuals (I mean both the maid and Njogou's wife). Njogou,
Ismaila, Mr. Grey-Johnson were transferred or recalled for official reasons
and simply put because their services are needed some were else.
Ebrima, from your own opinion, has the Jammeh administration done any thing
good since it came to power? I would definitely love to have an answer from
you.
PEACE
Tombong Saidy
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>> Ebrima Ceesay,
>>
>> At a typical Bantaba, one quickly earns a reputation as either being
>> always credible , sometimes credible, or never credible. Armed with that
>> knowledge, one will cautiously scrutinize information depending on the
>> reputation of the source. I am surprised that you had always been blind
>> to the incredulity of your audience. Please be reminded that the
>> audience of this Bantaba has always been 'critically minded' and
>> 'politically mature'. On that note, I'm inclined to believe that your
>> so-called top government insider is none other than our dear friend '
>> Radio Kankang'. If infact your source is a top government employee, then
>> that goes to show that some, if not all of the officials who served during
>> the former regime should be uncovered and sacked immediately, because
>> they clearly do not have the country at heart. I am sure we still have
>> some bad apples within the system and if President Jammeh will ever read
>> this piece, to take a second look at all of the old cronies.
>>
>> Being a staunch supporter of the present regime, I take it upon myself to
>> thoroughly seek facts before I present them to Gambia-L. This list will
>> recall my top ten lists that result from my frequent trips to the Gambia
>> to see for myself what is on the ground. After reading your piece about
>> Essa Sey's appointment as Ambassador to France and the general nature of
>> The President's civil service appointments, I did my own research on Mr.
>> Essa Sey's background in order to compare and refute your 'radio kankang'
>> stuff. The reason I call your stuff 'Radio Kankang' is threefold.
>> First, because you're a political refugee in Birmingham who obtains his
>> news from a wolf in a sheep's clothing within the regime. Secondly, your
>> top government source may be just a fictitious character. Thirdly, the
>> daily Observer, your news source is in my view the least credible of all
>> the newspapers in the Gambia. I think we all remember the recent Mass
>> Lowe/Youssou N'dour and Pa Sallah Jagne snafu when these two men publicly
>> condemned the Observer for writing incorrect material albeit a 1995
Observer
>> article by the renowned Mathew Jallow that dubbed Mr. Essa Sey as "A
Poet With
>> a Difference".
>>
>> Even though I cannot claim to know Mr. Essa Sey personally, I do however,
>> know some of his relatives back in Kuntire Village. You claim to be very
>> close to his wife and family, hence the credibility of your account, but
>> my sources tell me that neither Mr. Sey's family, now in Sinchu-Sori
>> Village nor his wife's relatives know your whereabout. It is my
>> obligation and conviction that to maintain social justice, one needs
>> to make credible utterances because history will immortalize our words and
>> action. I further take it upon myself to be as honest and objective in
>> what I write because the issue at hand is not a litmus test for Essa Sey
>> or Ebrima Ceesay. Safeguarding the prosperity of The Gambia should be the
>> order of the day.
>>
>> In your piece on Essa Sey, you stated that Essa Sey is presently a deputy
>> permanent secretary, this is not true. Essa is infact is a Counsellor
at the
>> permanent mission of The Republic of the Gambia to the United Nations.
>> Prior to his appointment at his current United Nations position, he served
>> as a First Secretary at the embassy in Paris ( 1995-1996) and later as
>> Charge d'Affairs at the same embassy. My understanding is that he was
>> very instrumental during the negotiations that led to the launching of the
>> Gambia Television Station. My investigation into his educational
>> background reveals that he did complete Gendermarie academy before taking
>> off for further studies in France, a fact that your impeccable sources did
>> not tell you. His linguistic prowess is manifested by virtue of his
>> stint as a French teacher at Nusrat High School, and subsequently, as a
>> student at Dakar University (1991-1992), University of Sierra Leone,
>> Institute of Public Administration and Management (IPAM) - a diplomatic
>> training institution sponsored by the Commonwealth Office, and the
>> University of Besancon Centre Linguistique Appliquee in Paris (1992-1993).
>> I think you can tell by now that I did my homework on Essa Sey to set
>> the record straight. By the way, I did make sure that my phone card
>> allowed me to talk to multiple sources including both Essa and his Wife's
>> families. I'd be much obliged to mail you a few phone cards next time you
>> want to talk to your impeccable sources. You made another blunder by
>> saying that Dr. Saja Tall was sacked for the second time. My friend what
>> kind of impeccable sources do you have?. To set the record straight, Mr.
>> Taal was reassigned to Permanent Secretary at the Presidents Office. I
think
>> this list will agree with me that you source of information is purely
'Radio Kankang
>> at its best'.
>>
>> I would have loved to personally interview Mr. Essa Sey but my sources
>> here in the U.S who know him describe him as an intellectual who would
>> trivialize this barrage of political demagoguery from an aspiring
>> journalist. I'm sure Essa Sey is aware of the Internet as a tool
>> available for anyone who wants to support or oppose a government, head
of state,
>> policy, or legislation in a democratic domain and would not deem your
>> disapproval as a personal attack. Democracy is in the Gambia to stay and
>> even refugees have the right to criticize policy or policy makers.
>>
>> On the issue of experience, you mentioned that "...in honest opinion, you
>> believe a more seasoned, a more experienced diplomat should be sent to
>> such a key Embassy like Paris... because Essa joined the foreign
>> ministry in 1993..." after a stint with the Gendermarie. What your
impeccable
>> sources failed to tell you is that Essa is not only adequately qualified
>> for such a position but also a loyal ally of the revolution who served
in the Gambian armed >> forces along with His Excellency the President. He
is a seasoned veteran of impeccable >> character and a APRC stallwarth.
The latter being of more importance in any political
>> appointment. Please be advised that an Ambassador is a political
>> appointee who sees eye to eye with the policies of the regime in power. I
>> have to give you examples of some of the more celebrated U.S Ambassadorial
>> appointments in recent times. Bill Clinton's former Ambassador to France
>> was Mrs. Pamela Harriman, whose only claim fo fame was being a
>> multimillionaire donor to the Democratic National Convention (DNC). Jean
>> Kennedy-Smith, sister of U.S Senator Ted Kennedy was appointed as U.S
>> Ambassador to Ireland based only on her loyalty and connection within the
>> Democratic party. Both Mrs Harriman and Kennedy-Smith went on to server
>> the U.S. with distinction. Who would forget the excellent job that
>> former Atlanta Mayor Andrew Young did as the U.S Ambassador to the United
>> Nations under President Carter. He rose to the occation without any prior
>> diplomatic experience. Ebrima, sometimes we get so caught-up in our
>> contempt of an institution that we tend to loose sight of the big picture,
>> the big picture in this sense being the relativity of precedence.
>>
>> Ebrima, some of the people that we call seasoned, or intellectuals, will
wash
>> dishes for a living if they come to the United States where a real skill
>> is what matters. In this country, verbosity alone will not vault you to
>> the top. Let us stop this nonsense of personal issues and work for
>> a better Gambia. Everyone makes mistakes. Clinton is arguably the best
>> U.S. president that we ever had but his administration is marred by speech
>> and behavior snafus. I couldn't help but laugh at your reference to
>> Ambassador John Bojang's alleged snafu. Ebrima, how many times have your
>> writing/speech been less than perfect. Probably more than you can count.
>> I hope you can at least try to smell the roses down there in Birmingham.
>> Life is short, have fun.
>>
>> Regards
>> Malafy "Mafy" Jarju
>> Software Engineer
>> Delta Air Lines
>>
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Asalaamu alaikum Maafy,
Alhamdulillah and that was a well researched and comprehensive essay. Where
have you been? Missed these kind of inputs from you. Hope you make it to
Sweden this summer to visit with Buharry and Co. Safe journey.
Allahumma salli wasallim alaa Nabiyyina Muhammad. Wasalaam.
Modou Mbye
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Hi folks!
To all my friends.......
The Fence...
There once was a little boy who had a bad temper. His father gave him a bag
of nails and told him that every time he lost his temper, he must hammer a
nail into the back of the fence.
The first day the boy had driven 37 nails into the fence.
Over the next few weeks, as he learned to control his anger, the number of
nails hammered daily gradually dwindled down. He discovered it was easier
to hold his temper than to drive those nails into the fence...
Finally the day came when the boy didn't lose his temper at
all. He told his father about it and the father suggested that the boy now
pull out one nail for each day that he was able to hold his temper.
The days passed and the young boy was finally able to tell his father that
all the nails were gone. The father took his son by the hand and led him to
the fence. He said, "You have done well, my son, but look at the holes in
the fence. The fence will never be the same. When you say things in anger,
they leave a scar just like this one. You can put a knife in a man and draw
it out. It won't matter how many times you say I'm sorry, the wound is
still there. A verbal wound is as bad as a physical one.
Friends are a very rare jewel, indeed. They make you smile and encourage
you to succeed. They lend an ear, they share a word of praise, and they
always want to open their hearts to us.
It's National Friendship Week. Show your friends how much you care. Send
this to everyone you consider a FRIEND even if it means sending back to the
person who sent it to you. If it comes back to you, then you'll know you
have a circle of friends.
HAPPY FRIENDSHIP WEEKEND!
Regards,
Alieu
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Mr. Saidy
I commend your courage and sincerity in taking time to clarify Mr. Ceesay's
alleged misinterpretation of the facts leading to the new appointments and
the subsequent recall of others for relocation. However, I would like to
borrow your own advise to Ceesay which pertains to checking what u wrote as
head of GRT b4 sending it to the list hence to facilitate easy
comprehension. I mean too many unnecessary mistakes. You can do better than
this, if only, u take your time and go over ur text before dispatching it,
just 4 ASSURANCE'S sake as ur teacher advised.
Just my humble opinion, keep it up!!!
Kittos
Peter
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>Ebrima,
>
>Please be more objective in your so-called analysis and commentaries. You
>should not allow your personal dislike of President Jammeh and this
>Government to cloud your Judgement. I was not surprised when you wrote:
>
>
>"And I do not also have any hidden agenda. I don't know what the future
>holds for me, but my wish is to continue in the role of a social watch dog,
>where I am convinced I will play a far more effective role, because it is a
>field where all my instincts drive me. But, of course, if people like
>Jammeh
>were to remain in power, it should not surprise you, if I go into full time
>politics".
>
>Those on the list who do not know, Ebrima was actually toying with the idea
>of running for the Presidency in 1996 until he realised that he will not
>make it, and he dropped the idea for a later date. So, he is already in
>politics and this underlying motive, coupled with others, clouds his
>judgement. Not to say there is any wrong with that but to point out that he
>has a hidden agenda.
>
>Few months ago, I told you to get another "reliable source", but you either
>did not take my advice, or you again got the wrong "reliable source". Your
>"source" is again misinforming you.
>
>You wrote:
>
>"Presently, I understand that he is a deputy permanent secretary and, prior
>to that he had served as a First Secretary at out Embassy in Paris, during
>the transition period"
>
>Essa Sey is not a Deputy Permanent Secretary and has never been. Essay Sey
>is currently in New York at the Gambian Mission to the UN. He performed so
>well in Paris that when The Gambia assumed its seat in the UN Security
>Council, he was transferred to strengthen the New York office.
>
>He has been made an Ambassador to France because he knows France, served
>there, and above all he is one of the most dynamic diplomats we have out
>there. Besides, not only does he speak French fluently, he writes very good
>poems in French. For your information, Essay Sey was trained in France as
>well.
>
>You see, Ebrima, modern day diplomacy is no longer what diplomacy used to
>be. Diplomacy to day, particularly so for Developing countries, is ECOMONIC
>DIPLOMACY and PRO-ACTIVE DIPLOMACY. The days of going to endless receptions
>and passing back and forth of countless note verbal are gone. Essay Sey is
>some one who really understands the phenomenon in the diplomatic field.
>Essay, Mambury Njie in Taiwan and Juliana Baldeh in Washington D.C. are
>among the few young and dynamic diplomats we have out there. I wish you
>"source" could give you the achievements Essay in the diplomatic field,
>especially when he was Paris for months as the only diplomat armed with
>only
>a secretary and a financial attache or his performance in New York.
>
>I would be glad to hear from you what are the qualifications for some one
>to
>be appointed an Ambassador.
>
>Do not think your "source" did you a favour by telling you that:
>
>"Ebrima, guess what, Essay Sey is going to be announced as The Gambia's
>Ambassador-designate to France…………". This is already common knowledge and
>this happened weeks ago, it is really stale news for those within the media
>in this country. You are obviously out of touch. Essay and Maodo have been
>written to long time ago to inform them of their appointments. The only
>reason why these appointments are not yet announced publicly is because the
>"agreement" (with French pronunciation) from France and Belgium are not yet
>received. Normally when an Ambassador is appointed, the country he/she is
>serve is written to request for an "agreement" (pronounced as 'agreema'),
>which is basically a written acceptance letter from the host Government.
>This process normally takes from two days to six months or more depending
>on
>the bureaucracy, timing and many other factors. So Governments would not
>normally announce such appointments until an 'agreema' is received and that
>is why these appointments are not yet officially announced.
>
>In your reply to William Njie, you wrote:
>
>"By the way, I was told that Dr Saja Taal, permanent Secretary at the
>Ministry of Education, had been sacked for the second time yesterday."
>
>Again you are being misinformed. Dr. Saja Taal is now a Permanent Secretary
>to the Office of The President, which is a more influential position than
>he
>previous position. I think you should double-check your facts before
>writing
>them on the list. One of my teachers once said "always make assurance
>double
>sure" before penning down any thing.
>
>The reasons you gave for the transfer of Njogou Bah are absolutely wrong
>and
>at best malicious and speculative. Why write such "facts" if you cannot
>substantiate them and in the process, tarnishing the image of these poor
>innocent individuals (I mean both the maid and Njogou's wife). Njogou,
>Ismaila, Mr. Grey-Johnson were transferred or recalled for official reasons
>and simply put because their services are needed some were else.
>
>Ebrima, from your own opinion, has the Jammeh administration done any thing
>good since it came to power? I would definitely love to have an answer from
>you.
>
>PEACE
>
>Tombong Saidy
>
>
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[log in to unmask],Internet writes:
>Could somebody help me with an e-mail address or postal address and
>telephone
>numbers of the following ministries and parastatal - Ministry of
>Education ,
>GPTC, Ministry of Health, RVH,Bansang and Farafeni Hospitals .
>
>Enjoy your summer.
>
>Lamin P.F. Manneh
>
Mr. Manneh,
There is a Gambian Telephone Directory at:
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regards,
Momodou Camara
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Asalaamu alaikum Tombong,
Alhamdulillah and thank you for recognizing my own Ambassador, Mamburry Njie
( Taiwan ) as one of the seasoned diplomats our country has right now. B4 I
came to Taiwan, almost everyone that I talked to who knew him officially or
otherwise praised him.
Indeed, I found him to be an excellent and caring ambassador who goes out of
his way to look after my welfare in Taiwan. One of my colleagues at NARI,
Fafanding Fatajo had similar accolades for him when he studied in Malaysia.
May Allah bless his provisions and reward him.
Allahumma salli wasallim alaa Nabiyyina Muhammad. Wasalaam.
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Malafy "Mafy" Jarju Wrote among things:
>>What your impeccable sources failed to tell you is that Essa is not =
only adequately qualified
>>for such a position but also a loyal ally of the revolution who served
>>in the Gambian armed forces along with His Excellency the President.
What revolution are you talking about? Do you call what is happening in =
The Gambia right now a revolution?!? Please clarify.
You also wrote:
>>Democracy is in the Gambia to stay and even refugees have the right =
to criticize policy or >>policy makers.
Syngle Nyassi is yet to realise that!!!
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Gambia L,
I am doing something very urgent right now, but expect my reaction to
Tombong's posting by tommorrow. Tombong, I'll make you to apologise to this
forum, for misleading them. You said Essa Sey was never a deputy permanent.
I couldn't believe this statement is coming from you.
Essa was a deputy permanent Secretary at the Ministry of Defence. In fact,
he was one of those who chaired the Guinea Bissau peace talks, held in the
Gambia, some time ago. Gambia L members in the Gambia can check
thisinformation and report the truth to this forum.
As far as I know, it was Maodo Touray, not Essa Sey, who was posted to New
York, to strengthen the Gambia's mission to the UN. Let's be honest and
fair in our criticisms. This time, I got it right. Essa was indeed a deputy
permanent Secretary at the Defence Ministry.
Tombong, I am glad that you are now coming out publicly on this matter
instead of using a pen name. Some time ago, I checked the IP numbers for
Ebou Manneh and William Njie and I know exactly, who is writing under this
false names. I'll wait until Ndey Jobarteh rejoins this forum, then I can
shed light more light on this. At least, when I write, I use my real names.
Anyway, Gambia L, expect my reaction tommorrow. This is an era of truth and
clarity.
Ebrima Ceesay,
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Gambia L,
As I already said, I intend to post my reaction, by tomorrow, Saturday, but
someone, who is quite versed with computers, has just sent me a private
e-mail, asking me to take note of the fact that Malafy Jarju's piece on Essa
Sey's appointment was "not original".
According to the person who sent me the private e-mail, Malafy's piece was
definitely sent to him, from another computer by someone, although the IP
number of that machine had been removed, when Malafy posted the article to
Gambia L, using his (Malafy's) name.
In other words, the person who sent me the private mail is saying that the
piece was sent to Malafy, from another e-mail, and then Malafy posted it to
the L, using his (Malafy's) name and e-mail account. That's why, according
to the person who sent me the private mail, if you look at Malafy's posting
to the L, it has these signs <<<<<<<<<< on the border.
I hope the piece was not sent to Malafy Jarju by Matarr Njie (laughs).
Anyway, expect my reaction tomorrow.
Ebrima Ceesay,
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Ebrima, from your own opinion, has the Jammeh administration done any thing
good since it came to power? I would definitely love to have an answer from
you.
>>
Tombong,
The "good things" are clouded over by those who have died and no explanations
have been given or investigations pursued, by those who are abducted in the
middle of the night and it is simply said "they are not in our custody",
those in positions of responsibility but who nevertheless display
lawlessness in public and can get away with it, those who harass and muzzle
the voice of the free press in various and sundry forms. l guess the "good
things" are killing our country slowly but surely. That's what's known as
"loving us to death". It is akin to someone murdering your family members one
by one, but at the same time showering you with gifts so you can believe they
are just the best thing that ever happened to you.However, it is apparent
that some of us are not bothered in the least bit by these atrocities, so
long as they are a part of the false sense of power.But the saddest part of
it all, is that those who commit these atrocoties not only take themselves
seriously and call this good governance, but they expect the rest of us to
follow suit in this simple minded belief.
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Here we go again. How do you expect people to read your postings and
feel enlightened. So you checked my IP address and I do not exist,
someone else maybe Matarr is subscribing to GL under a false name
William Njie. I was born and raised William Njie, my name was never
changed or altered in any shape or form. There are quite a few people
on this list laughing at you, because they have received and/or are
still receiving private e-mails from me under this address.
I would ask a few people who subscribe on this list to send an e-mail
acknowledging my existence, but you will cry a wider conspiracy; and I
will not even give you that satisfaction. For those who know of my
existence will always be skeptical of everything you write from now on,
and those who were at the ceremony held for Ambassador Johnson will be
skeptical about things you write because, I was honored to be given the
opportunity to give a speech in front of my fellow Gambians in honor of
Ambassador Johnson.
I leave you Mr Ceesay to continue on your conspiracy theories.
Peace to all.
--- ebrima ceesay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Gambia L,
>
> I am doing something very urgent right now, but
> expect my reaction to
> Tombong's posting by tommorrow. Tombong, I'll make
> you to apologise to this
> forum, for misleading them. You said Essa Sey was
> never a deputy permanent.
> I couldn't believe this statement is coming from
> you.
>
> Essa was a deputy permanent Secretary at the
> Ministry of Defence. In fact,
> he was one of those who chaired the Guinea Bissau
> peace talks, held in the
> Gambia, some time ago. Gambia L members in the
> Gambia can check
> thisinformation and report the truth to this forum.
>
> As far as I know, it was Maodo Touray, not Essa Sey,
> who was posted to New
> York, to strengthen the Gambia's mission to the UN.
> Let's be honest and
> fair in our criticisms. This time, I got it right.
> Essa was indeed a deputy
> permanent Secretary at the Defence Ministry.
>
> Tombong, I am glad that you are now coming out
> publicly on this matter
> instead of using a pen name. Some time ago, I
> checked the IP numbers for
> Ebou Manneh and William Njie and I know exactly, who
> is writing under this
> false names. I'll wait until Ndey Jobarteh rejoins
> this forum, then I can
> shed light more light on this. At least, when I
> write, I use my real names.
>
> Anyway, Gambia L, expect my reaction tommorrow. This
> is an era of truth and
> clarity.
>
> Ebrima Ceesay,
> Birmingham, UK.
>
>
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Ebrima:
I'm not sure whether you and Tombong are talking about the same Essa Sey.
But, if it is the same Essa Sey once a gendarme and who later worked at the
Ministry of External Affairs, he was definitely at the Gambia Mission to the
UN in New York. I went to the office to obtain some info and bumped into
Essa Sey. I later had about 20 minuntes discussion with him on literary
issues such as poetry and short-story writing. Unless if I had been
day-dreaming! BTW, the tel# for the Mission is (212)949-6640.
If Essa had been a Deputy Perm-Sec. then he must have been shuttling between
New York and Banjul throughout the Bissau talks, a ridiculous venture that
no government would like to take up even the APRC.
I just thought that I should clarify that particular point.
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>Gambia L,
>
>I am doing something very urgent right now, but expect my reaction to
>Tombong's posting by tommorrow. Tombong, I'll make you to apologise to this
>forum, for misleading them. You said Essa Sey was never a deputy permanent.
>I couldn't believe this statement is coming from you.
>
>Essa was a deputy permanent Secretary at the Ministry of Defence. In fact,
>he was one of those who chaired the Guinea Bissau peace talks, held in the
>Gambia, some time ago. Gambia L members in the Gambia can check
>thisinformation and report the truth to this forum.
>
>As far as I know, it was Maodo Touray, not Essa Sey, who was posted to New
>York, to strengthen the Gambia's mission to the UN. Let's be honest and
>fair in our criticisms. This time, I got it right. Essa was indeed a deputy
>permanent Secretary at the Defence Ministry.
>
>Tombong, I am glad that you are now coming out publicly on this matter
>instead of using a pen name. Some time ago, I checked the IP numbers for
>Ebou Manneh and William Njie and I know exactly, who is writing under this
>false names. I'll wait until Ndey Jobarteh rejoins this forum, then I can
>shed light more light on this. At least, when I write, I use my real names.
>
>Anyway, Gambia L, expect my reaction tommorrow. This is an era of truth and
>clarity.
>
>Ebrima Ceesay,
>Birmingham, UK.
>
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> As I already said, I intend to post my reaction, by tomorrow, =
Saturday, but
> someone, who is quite versed with computers, has just sent me a =
private
> e-mail, asking me to take note of the fact that Malafy Jarju's piece =
on Essa
> Sey's appointment was "not original".
>=20
> According to the person who sent me the private e-mail, Malafy's piece =
was
> definitely sent to him, from another computer by someone, although the =
IP
> number of that machine had been removed, when Malafy posted the =
article to
> Gambia L, using his (Malafy's) name.
>=20
> In other words, the person who sent me the private mail is saying that =
the
> piece was sent to Malafy, from another e-mail, and then Malafy posted =
it to
> the L, using his (Malafy's) name and e-mail account. That's why, =
according
> to the person who sent me the private mail, if you look at Malafy's =
posting
> to the L, it has these signs <<<<<<<<<< on the border.
>=20
> I hope the piece was not sent to Malafy Jarju by Matarr Njie (laughs).
> Anyway, expect my reaction tomorrow.
>=20
> Ebrima Ceesay,
> Birmingham, UK
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Hey Ebrima,
I am sorry to say that the person that sent the e-mail to you in private
and yourself, are a little bit behind on the capabilities of the e-mail
technology today. Don't be fooled, an original message can originate
from any source, then copied, edited, or forwarded, without anyone=20
being able to trace initial compositional site.
I know Mafy has access to multiple PC's and thus can compose a piece
of mail from one machine and then forward to another, how ever he want =
to.
Trust me I have dealt with several situations like this before. For me =
alone,
at work, I have 3 e-mail addresses alone in three different servers. You =
can=20
never guess where this one is originating from. :>))))))
For one, I can compose a piece at home, send it to work, or vice versa, =
and=20
then send it to the L or any destination, just for convenience sake.
Hopefully, this will enlighten you, a bit, on today's e-mail technology.
Piece
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#808080 size=3D2>> As I already said, I intend to =
post my=20
reaction, by tomorrow, Saturday, but<BR>> someone, who is quite =
versed with=20
computers, has just sent me a private<BR>> e-mail, asking me to take =
note of=20
the fact that Malafy Jarju's piece on Essa<BR>> Sey's appointment was =
"not=20
original".<BR>> <BR>> According to the person who sent me the =
private=20
e-mail, Malafy's piece was<BR>> definitely sent to him, from another =
computer=20
by someone, although the IP<BR>> number of that machine had been =
removed,=20
when Malafy posted the article to<BR>> Gambia L, using his (Malafy's) =
name.<BR>> <BR>> In other words, the person who sent me the =
private mail=20
is saying that the<BR>> piece was sent to Malafy, from another =
e-mail, and=20
then Malafy posted it to<BR>> the L, using his (Malafy's) name and =
e-mail=20
account. That's why, according<BR>> to the person who sent me the =
private=20
mail, if you look at Malafy's posting<BR>> to the L, it has these =
signs=20
<<<<<<<<<< on the border.<BR>> <BR>> =
I hope=20
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Anyway,=20
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Birmingham,=20
UK</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D3>Hey Ebrima,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D3>I am sorry to say that the person =
that sent the=20
e-mail to you in private</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D3>and yourself,</FONT><FONT =
color=3D#000000 size=3D3>=20
are a little bit behind on the capabilities of the e-mail</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D3>technology today. Don't be fooled, =
an original=20
message can originate</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D3>from any source, then copied, =
edited, or=20
forwarded, without anyone </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D3>being able to trace initial =
compositional=20
site.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D3>I know Mafy has access to multiple =
PC's and thus=20
can compose a piece</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D3>of mail from one machine and then =
forward to=20
another, how ever he want to.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D3>Trust me I have dealt with several =
situations=20
like this before. For me alone,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D3>at work, I have 3 e-mail addresses =
alone in=20
three different servers. You can </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D3>never</FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 =
size=3D3> guess=20
where this one is originating from. :>))))))</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D3>For one, I can compose a=20
piece</FONT> <FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D3>at home, send it to =
work, or vice=20
versa, and </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D3>then send it to the L or any =
destination, just=20
for convenience sake.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D3>Hopefully, this will enlighten you, =
a bit, on=20
today's e-mail technology.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D3>Piece</FONT></DIV>
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Ebrima,
I think you should accept the fact that Ambassadors are political
appointees. Secondly, experience is a complement to competence and skills.
Though young, Essa might prove to be more competent and skilldul in
executing his duties than you might think.
Please don't challenge Tombong on this issue.Essa Sey has never been Deputy
Permanent Secretary for Defence. Essa Khan is the Deputy Permanent Secretary
at the Department of State for Defence.
Since we are all liable to make mistakes,I would urge you to accept the fact
that your "reliable source" gave you some wrong information about Essa Sey.
It is therefore prudent that you double check your information(s) before
sending them to the Bantaba.
God bless all Peace Loving Gambians.
Pa Ousman Jarju
>From: Hamadi Banna <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: Expect my reaction to Tombong
>Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:05:57 PDT
>
>Ebrima:
>
>I'm not sure whether you and Tombong are talking about the same Essa Sey.
>But, if it is the same Essa Sey once a gendarme and who later worked at the
>Ministry of External Affairs, he was definitely at the Gambia Mission to
>the
>UN in New York. I went to the office to obtain some info and bumped into
>Essa Sey. I later had about 20 minuntes discussion with him on literary
>issues such as poetry and short-story writing. Unless if I had been
>day-dreaming! BTW, the tel# for the Mission is (212)949-6640.
>
>If Essa had been a Deputy Perm-Sec. then he must have been shuttling
>between
>New York and Banjul throughout the Bissau talks, a ridiculous venture that
>no government would like to take up even the APRC.
>
>I just thought that I should clarify that particular point.
>
>
>
>
>>From: ebrima ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
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>><[log in to unmask]>
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>>Subject: Expect my reaction to Tombong
>>Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 03:44:12 PDT
>>
>>Gambia L,
>>
>>I am doing something very urgent right now, but expect my reaction to
>>Tombong's posting by tommorrow. Tombong, I'll make you to apologise to
>>this
>>forum, for misleading them. You said Essa Sey was never a deputy
>>permanent.
>>I couldn't believe this statement is coming from you.
>>
>>Essa was a deputy permanent Secretary at the Ministry of Defence. In fact,
>>he was one of those who chaired the Guinea Bissau peace talks, held in the
>>Gambia, some time ago. Gambia L members in the Gambia can check
>>thisinformation and report the truth to this forum.
>>
>>As far as I know, it was Maodo Touray, not Essa Sey, who was posted to New
>>York, to strengthen the Gambia's mission to the UN. Let's be honest and
>>fair in our criticisms. This time, I got it right. Essa was indeed a
>>deputy
>>permanent Secretary at the Defence Ministry.
>>
>>Tombong, I am glad that you are now coming out publicly on this matter
>>instead of using a pen name. Some time ago, I checked the IP numbers for
>>Ebou Manneh and William Njie and I know exactly, who is writing under this
>>false names. I'll wait until Ndey Jobarteh rejoins this forum, then I can
>>shed light more light on this. At least, when I write, I use my real
>>names.
>>
>>Anyway, Gambia L, expect my reaction tommorrow. This is an era of truth
>>and
>>clarity.
>>
>>Ebrima Ceesay,
>>Birmingham, UK.
>>
>>
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Ebrima,
I think you should accept the fact that Ambassadors are political
appointees. Secondly, experience is a complement to competence and skills.
Though young, Essa might prove to be more competent and skillful in
executing his duties than you might think.
Please don't challenge Tombong on this issue.Essa Sey has never been Deputy
Permanent Secretary for Defence. Essa Khan is the Deputy Permanent Secretary
at the Department of State for Defence.
Since we are all liable to make mistakes,I would urge you to accept the fact
that your "reliable source" gave you some wrong information about Essa Sey.
It is therefore prudent that you double check your information(s) before
sending them to the Bantaba.
God bless all Peace Loving Gambians.
Pa Ousman Jarju
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>Subject: Re: Expect my reaction to Tombong
>Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:05:57 PDT
>
>Ebrima:
>
>I'm not sure whether you and Tombong are talking about the same Essa Sey.
>But, if it is the same Essa Sey once a gendarme and who later worked at the
>Ministry of External Affairs, he was definitely at the Gambia Mission to
>the
>UN in New York. I went to the office to obtain some info and bumped into
>Essa Sey. I later had about 20 minuntes discussion with him on literary
>issues such as poetry and short-story writing. Unless if I had been
>day-dreaming! BTW, the tel# for the Mission is (212)949-6640.
>
>If Essa had been a Deputy Perm-Sec. then he must have been shuttling
>between
>New York and Banjul throughout the Bissau talks, a ridiculous venture that
>no government would like to take up even the APRC.
>
>I just thought that I should clarify that particular point.
>
>
>
>
>>From: ebrima ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Expect my reaction to Tombong
>>Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 03:44:12 PDT
>>
>>Gambia L,
>>
>>I am doing something very urgent right now, but expect my reaction to
>>Tombong's posting by tommorrow. Tombong, I'll make you to apologise to
>>this
>>forum, for misleading them. You said Essa Sey was never a deputy
>>permanent.
>>I couldn't believe this statement is coming from you.
>>
>>Essa was a deputy permanent Secretary at the Ministry of Defence. In fact,
>>he was one of those who chaired the Guinea Bissau peace talks, held in the
>>Gambia, some time ago. Gambia L members in the Gambia can check
>>thisinformation and report the truth to this forum.
>>
>>As far as I know, it was Maodo Touray, not Essa Sey, who was posted to New
>>York, to strengthen the Gambia's mission to the UN. Let's be honest and
>>fair in our criticisms. This time, I got it right. Essa was indeed a
>>deputy
>>permanent Secretary at the Defence Ministry.
>>
>>Tombong, I am glad that you are now coming out publicly on this matter
>>instead of using a pen name. Some time ago, I checked the IP numbers for
>>Ebou Manneh and William Njie and I know exactly, who is writing under this
>>false names. I'll wait until Ndey Jobarteh rejoins this forum, then I can
>>shed light more light on this. At least, when I write, I use my real
>>names.
>>
>>Anyway, Gambia L, expect my reaction tommorrow. This is an era of truth
>>and
>>clarity.
>>
>>Ebrima Ceesay,
>>Birmingham, UK.
>>
>>
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William Njie,
My apologies to you, and I hope you'll forgive me for the error. I should
have waited until Alan Mboge, or Ndey Jobarteh, rejoins the list before
raising this matter.
I am confusing things here. I now remember very well, it was Ebou Manneh's
IP number and that of Finna Ceesay that were checked, just out of curiosity.
As for you, Finna, I am not doubting your existence at all. Your IP number
was only checked, because of curiosity, in the wake of some of the things
you were saying about Tombong.
As for the Ebou Manneh postings, I know where they do come from, and I'll
shed light on the matter, at the appropriate time.
Meanwhile, I am urging Gambia L subscribers to wait until they read my
reaction, before forming a judgement. I have handled polemical situations
which were far more complicated than this one.
As long as there are no insults or disrespect, I am ready for an
enlightening debate.
Finally, I repeat my apology to William Njie, and I hope he forgives me for
the mistake.
Ebrima Ceesay,
Birmingham, UK.
PS: Gambia L, just to say that I have not forgotten that I should give you
an update on the proposed directory of Gambian "professionals". I couldn't
believe the positive feed backs I am getting privately, from Gambians and
friends of the Gambia all over the world.
When I thought about the idea of publishing a directory, I just wanted to do
something small; a reference book I can even finish within four months
period.
But, right now, private individuals and even donor agencies/Foundations have
been contacting me, pledging moral, material and financial support, so that
the project can get off the ground.
Although, I must add that the kind of "Master Directory" these people are
suggesting, and ready to finance, will take at least one year. But the good
thing is that it can be done.
This directory is "long over due", commented many.
Anyway, I am very grateful to the L, because it was the forum where the
issue was first raised. I'll be very transparent with the whole thing. I'll
tell those pledging financial/material support for the project, to do
everything through the L, or they should forget it. I cannot accuse Mr
Jammeh of not being transparent and accountable, when I am also guilty of
the same offence.
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>Ebrima Ceesay,
>
>I strognly suggest that you demand a formal apology from you latest source.
>It seems that both of you lack basic email infrastructure knowlegde.
>Please be advised that this was not the first time that I
>forwarded mail to be sent to Gambia-L. I have a total of seven email
>accounts because of the nature of my job. Maybe you need to take some basic
>technical lessons on the internet and computers in general. We live in a
>High Tech World 'for crying out loud'.
>
>Please don't throw in my good friend Matarr Njie's name in the picture.
Don't
>use him to cover up your apparent ignorance of 'email 101'.
>Infact this particular piece will have exactly the same characteristics as my
>previous mail, just to give you and your source some homework while you
try to
>figure out this 'WIZARDRY' . Folks, Mr. Ceesay has again shot himself in
>the foot. Oh! My Oh! My as we say in the deep south.
>
>Have fun Ebrima, don't let your sources get you all worked-up again.
>The truth will always prevail.
>
>Regards,
> Malafy "Mafy" Jarju
>
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Hello their Mr. Modou Mbye,
It's always nice to hear from your neck of the woods. The truth shall
always prevail. I will definitely visit Buharry and crew in Sweden this
summer. I will surely cover Kartong next time I am in the Gambia for my
updated 'top ten list'.
Regards,
Mafy
Momodou Mbye wrote,
>Asalaamu alaikum Maafy,
>
>Alhamdulillah and that was a well researched and comprehensive essay. Where
>have you been? Missed these kind of inputs from you. Hope you make it to
>Sweden this summer to visit with Buharry and Co. Safe journey.
>
>Allahumma salli wasallim alaa Nabiyyina Muhammad. Wasalaam.
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In the name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.
PATIENCE AND PERSEVERANCE
All praise is due to Allah, the Lord and Cherisher of the Universe. May
His peace and blessings be upon the holy prophet, Muhammad (PBUH), his
household, companions and all followers of the right guidance till the Day
of Judgement. Allah, the Exalted, says: "O you who believe! Seek help with
patient perseverance and prayer: for Allah is with those who patiently
persevere." Q2:153. "And seek (Allah's) help with patient perseverance and
prayer: it is indeed hard except to those who bring a lowly spirit. Who
bear in mind the certainty that they are to meet their Lord and that they
are to return to Him." Q2:45-6
There are some things in this world that are beyond the control of
mankind. These things can bring either happiness or sadness. And every
individual and nation will experience these things in one way or the
other. Many people know how to cope with things that bring happiness,
although some people still misuse this opportunity. Likewise, many people
usually have problems in coping with things that bring sadness like the
death of a loved one, sickness, unemployment, disasters, etc. Many people
change there religion not because of their conviction but simply because
they have one problem or the other or because they badly need something
they cherish very much.
In Islam, Allah has clearly stated that He will test us. He did not stop
at that but He also informed us of what we need to pass the test or trial.
"Be sure We shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in
goods or lives or the fruits (of your toil) but give glad tidings to those
who patiently persevere. Who say when afflicted with calamity: "To Allah
we belong and to Him is our return." They are those on whom (descend)
blessings from Allah and Mercy and they are the ones that receive
guidance." Q2:155-7.
Therefore, patience and perseverance are integral part of faith. All
prophets of Allah had serious problems while disseminating words of God,
Allah even tested some of them with calamities but they all persevered and
exercised patience. Allah, the Most Merciful and Compassionate, stresses
the importance of patience and perseverance in the following verses:
"And be steadfast in patience; for verily Allah will not suffer the reward
of the righteous to perish." Q11:115
"O you my servants who believe! Fear your Lord: good is (the reward) for
those who do good in this world. Spacious is Allah's earth! Those who
patiently persevere will truly receive a reward without measure!" Q39:10
"O ye who believe! Persevere in patience and constancy: vie in such
perseverance; strengthen each other to guide your territory; and fear
Allah; that you may prosper." Q3:200
"And verily, if any show patience and forgive that would truly be an
exercise of courageous will and resolution in the conduct of affairs."
Q42:43
Allah, the Exalted, knows that it is not easy to exercise patience and
perseverance during hardship and He promised those who do it great reward.
However, patience and perseverance will be easy for those who are humble
and conscious of Allah (Q2:45-6)
The holy prophet, Muhammad (PBUH), was reported to have said that a strong
man is not the person that can fight or with physical strength but the
person that can control his anger (i.e. exercise patience).
Sa'd ibn Abu Waqqas reported that Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him)
said, "It is a fine thing when a believer praises and thanks Allah if good
comes to him, and praises Allah and shows endurance if smitten by
affliction. The believer is rewarded for everything, even for the morsel
he raises to his wife's mouth." (Tirmidhi Hadith 1733)
Abu Umamah narrated that the Prophet (peace be upon him) stated that
Allah, who is Blessed and Exalted, said "Son of Adam, if you show
endurance and seek your reward from me in the first affliction, I shall be
pleased with no lesser reward than Paradise for you." (Tirmidhi Hadith
1758)
Abu Umayyah ash-Sha'bani said: I asked Abu Tha'labah al-Khushani: What is
your opinion about the verse "Care for yourselves". He said: I swear by
Allah, I asked the one who was well informed about it; I asked the Apostle
of Allah (peace be upon him) about it. He said: No, enjoin one another to
do what is good and forbid one another to do what is evil. But when you
see niggardliness being obeyed, passion being followed, worldly interests
being preferred, everyone being charmed with his opinion, then care for
yourself, and leave alone what people in general are doing; for ahead of
you are days which will require endurance, in which showing endurance will
be like grasping live coals. The one who acts rightly during that period
will have the reward of fifty men who act as he does. He said (The hearers
asked:) Apostle of Allah, the reward of fifty of them? He replied: The
reward of fifty of you. (Sunan of Abu-Dawood Hadith 4327)
We all know what is happening in the world nowadays, some people are very
wicked and they oppress other people. The oppressed has no choice but to
exercise patience and perseverance. The holy prophet (PUBH) recommended
the frequent recitation of Qur'an, chapter 103 (one of the short chapters)
particular after the end of a gathering.
"By (the Token of) time (through the Ages). Verily, man is in loss. Except
such as have Faith and do righteous deeds and (join together) in the
mutual teaching of Truth and of Patience and Constancy." Q103:1-3
May Allah make patience and perseverance easy for us, may He not test us
with a trial that is greater than what we can bear. We ask for Allah's
forgiveness and mercy. Wassalamu alaykum waramotullahi wabarakatuhu.
Surajudeen.
--
Surajudeen Adewusi
King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minerals
Dhahran, KSA
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No apologies needed. I must admit, it was very funny. Good thing I was
the only one at work at that time, I laughed so hard my sides started
to hurt. After laughing that hard, I had to pinch myself to convince
myself that I do exist.
Just layoff the conspiracy theory.
Peace.
--- ebrima ceesay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> William Njie,
>
> My apologies to you, and I hope you'll forgive me
> for the error. I should
> have waited until Alan Mboge, or Ndey Jobarteh,
> rejoins the list before
> raising this matter.
>
> I am confusing things here. I now remember very
> well, it was Ebou Manneh's
> IP number and that of Finna Ceesay that were
> checked, just out of curiosity.
>
> As for you, Finna, I am not doubting your existence
> at all. Your IP number
> was only checked, because of curiosity, in the wake
> of some of the things
> you were saying about Tombong.
>
> As for the Ebou Manneh postings, I know where they
> do come from, and I'll
> shed light on the matter, at the appropriate time.
>
> Meanwhile, I am urging Gambia L subscribers to wait
> until they read my
> reaction, before forming a judgement. I have handled
> polemical situations
> which were far more complicated than this one.
>
> As long as there are no insults or disrespect, I am
> ready for an
> enlightening debate.
>
> Finally, I repeat my apology to William Njie, and I
> hope he forgives me for
> the mistake.
>
> Ebrima Ceesay,
> Birmingham, UK.
>
> PS: Gambia L, just to say that I have not forgotten
> that I should give you
> an update on the proposed directory of Gambian
> "professionals". I couldn't
> believe the positive feed backs I am getting
> privately, from Gambians and
> friends of the Gambia all over the world.
>
> When I thought about the idea of publishing a
> directory, I just wanted to do
> something small; a reference book I can even finish
> within four months
> period.
>
> But, right now, private individuals and even donor
> agencies/Foundations have
> been contacting me, pledging moral, material and
> financial support, so that
> the project can get off the ground.
>
> Although, I must add that the kind of "Master
> Directory" these people are
> suggesting, and ready to finance, will take at least
> one year. But the good
> thing is that it can be done.
>
> This directory is "long over due", commented many.
>
> Anyway, I am very grateful to the L, because it was
> the forum where the
> issue was first raised. I'll be very transparent
> with the whole thing. I'll
> tell those pledging financial/material support for
> the project, to do
> everything through the L, or they should forget it.
> I cannot accuse Mr
> Jammeh of not being transparent and accountable,
> when I am also guilty of
> the same offence.
>
>
>
>
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--- WILLIAM NJIE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> No apologies needed. I must admit, it was very
> funny. Good thing I was
> the only one at work at that time, I laughed so hard
> my sides started
> to hurt. After laughing that hard, I had to pinch
> myself to convince
> myself that I do exist.
>
> Just layoff the conspiracy theory.
>
> Peace.
>
>
> --- ebrima ceesay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > William Njie,
> >
> > My apologies to you, and I hope you'll forgive me
> > for the error. I should
> > have waited until Alan Mboge, or Ndey Jobarteh,
> > rejoins the list before
> > raising this matter.
> >
> > I am confusing things here. I now remember very
> > well, it was Ebou Manneh's
> > IP number and that of Finna Ceesay that were
> > checked, just out of curiosity.
> >
> > As for you, Finna, I am not doubting your
> existence
> > at all. Your IP number
> > was only checked, because of curiosity, in the
> wake
> > of some of the things
> > you were saying about Tombong.
> >
> > As for the Ebou Manneh postings, I know where they
> > do come from, and I'll
> > shed light on the matter, at the appropriate time.
> >
> > Meanwhile, I am urging Gambia L subscribers to
> wait
> > until they read my
> > reaction, before forming a judgement. I have
> handled
> > polemical situations
> > which were far more complicated than this one.
> >
> > As long as there are no insults or disrespect, I
> am
> > ready for an
> > enlightening debate.
> >
> > Finally, I repeat my apology to William Njie, and
> I
> > hope he forgives me for
> > the mistake.
> >
> > Ebrima Ceesay,
> > Birmingham, UK.
> >
> > PS: Gambia L, just to say that I have not
> forgotten
> > that I should give you
> > an update on the proposed directory of Gambian
> > "professionals". I couldn't
> > believe the positive feed backs I am getting
> > privately, from Gambians and
> > friends of the Gambia all over the world.
> >
> > When I thought about the idea of publishing a
> > directory, I just wanted to do
> > something small; a reference book I can even
> finish
> > within four months
> > period.
> >
> > But, right now, private individuals and even donor
> > agencies/Foundations have
> > been contacting me, pledging moral, material and
> > financial support, so that
> > the project can get off the ground.
> >
> > Although, I must add that the kind of "Master
> > Directory" these people are
> > suggesting, and ready to finance, will take at
> least
> > one year. But the good
> > thing is that it can be done.
> >
> > This directory is "long over due", commented many.
> >
> > Anyway, I am very grateful to the L, because it
> was
> > the forum where the
> > issue was first raised. I'll be very transparent
> > with the whole thing. I'll
> > tell those pledging financial/material support for
> > the project, to do
> > everything through the L, or they should forget
> it.
> > I cannot accuse Mr
> > Jammeh of not being transparent and accountable,
> > when I am also guilty of
> > the same offence.
> >
> >
> >
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Brother Habib wrote:
"Solomon=20
Before you jump into any conclusions check out the facts and the =
author of that piece.=20
Remember it is not everything that is written or said that may be the =
truth . Many times such stories are designed to divert attention or =
scare us.=20
Personally ,I think violence is not the solution to ant problem no =
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Hey Chief,=20
I do not jump into conclusion as quickly as you may think. But since we =
have tragically experienced
this, not very long ago, in East Africa. This should be a wake-up call =
or eye-opener for us to realize that=20
this sort of coward acts, can happen, again and again, on our soil at =
any given day or time.
We should be against such barbaric acts being brought into our =
Motherland, in the first place.
BTW, I was up for the ALD and never saw you in any of the events. What's =
up with that?:>))))))
Looking forward to seeing soon
Peace
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2><STRONG>Brother Habib wrote</STRONG>:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Solomon <BR>Before you jump into any conclusions check out =
the=20
facts and the author of that piece. <BR>Remember it is not everything =
that is=20
written or said that may be the truth . Many times such stories are =
designed=20
to divert attention or scare us. <BR>Personally ,I think violence is =
not the=20
solution to ant problem no matter what your belief <BR>Habib =
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>I do not jump=20
into conclusion as quickly as you may think. But since we have =
tragically=20
experienced</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>this,=20
</FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>not =
very long ago,=20
in East Africa. This should be a wake-up call or eye-opener for us to =
realize=20
that </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2><STRONG>this sort of =
coward acts, can=20
happen, again and again, on our soil at any given day or=20
time.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2><STRONG>We should be =
against such=20
barbaric acts being brought into our Motherland, in the first=20
place.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2><STRONG>BTW, I was up for =
the ALD and=20
never saw you in any of the events. What's up with=20
that?:>))))))</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2><STRONG>Looking forward =
to seeing=20
soon</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" =
size=3D2><STRONG>Peace</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2><STRONG>King=20
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Reply-To: Aliabe Touray <[log in to unmask]>
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Peter
wrote tombong "I would like to borrow your own advise to Ceesay which
pertains to checking what u wrote as head of GRT b4 sending it to the list
hence to facilitate easy comprehension. I mean too many unnecessary
mistakes. You can do better than this, if only, u take your time and go
over ur text before dispatching it"
I found your comment less valuable. It does not encourage but discourage
future contibution in this list. Next time be kind to the members of the
list to pin point what you found wrong, if you felt the need to critic
someone's work (writing). I think you can persuade your readers well, by
support your points with examples, anecdotes or quotations. Do not just
critize and expect the reader to hold your points with merit. May be you
can learn more of that from Ebrima Ceesay's scholarly articles or from
Tombong's article you felt was incomprehensible. Tell Tombong what you
think made his writing less understandable, may be next time he will
correct those mistakes. "That is what learning is. You suddenly understand
something you've understood all your life, but in a new way" as stated by
Doris Lessing
Just a critical reader, no offence
Ebrima
>
>
>>From: TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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>>Subject: Re: Two new Gambian Ambassadors Named
>>Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:39:58 PDT
>>
>>Ebrima,
>>
>>Please be more objective in your so-called analysis and commentaries. You
>>should not allow your personal dislike of President Jammeh and this
>>Government to cloud your Judgement. I was not surprised when you wrote:
>>
>>
>>"And I do not also have any hidden agenda. I don't know what the future
>>holds for me, but my wish is to continue in the role of a social watch
>dog,
>>where I am convinced I will play a far more effective role, because it is
>a
>>field where all my instincts drive me. But, of course, if people like
>>Jammeh
>>were to remain in power, it should not surprise you, if I go into full
>time
>>politics".
>>
>>Those on the list who do not know, Ebrima was actually toying with the
>idea
>>of running for the Presidency in 1996 until he realised that he will not
>>make it, and he dropped the idea for a later date. So, he is already in
>>politics and this underlying motive, coupled with others, clouds his
>>judgement. Not to say there is any wrong with that but to point out that
>he
>>has a hidden agenda.
>>
>>Few months ago, I told you to get another "reliable source", but you
>either
>>did not take my advice, or you again got the wrong "reliable source".
Your
>>"source" is again misinforming you.
>>
>>You wrote:
>>
>>"Presently, I understand that he is a deputy permanent secretary and,
>prior
>>to that he had served as a First Secretary at out Embassy in Paris,
during
>>the transition period"
>>
>>Essa Sey is not a Deputy Permanent Secretary and has never been. Essay
Sey
>>is currently in New York at the Gambian Mission to the UN. He performed
so
>>well in Paris that when The Gambia assumed its seat in the UN Security
>>Council, he was transferred to strengthen the New York office.
>>
>>He has been made an Ambassador to France because he knows France, served
>>there, and above all he is one of the most dynamic diplomats we have out
>>there. Besides, not only does he speak French fluently, he writes very
>good
>>poems in French. For your information, Essay Sey was trained in France as
>>well.
>>
>>You see, Ebrima, modern day diplomacy is no longer what diplomacy used to
>>be. Diplomacy to day, particularly so for Developing countries, is
>ECOMONIC
>>DIPLOMACY and PRO-ACTIVE DIPLOMACY. The days of going to endless
>receptions
>>and passing back and forth of countless note verbal are gone. Essay Sey
is
>>some one who really understands the phenomenon in the diplomatic field.
>>Essay, Mambury Njie in Taiwan and Juliana Baldeh in Washington D.C. are
>>among the few young and dynamic diplomats we have out there. I wish you
>>"source" could give you the achievements Essay in the diplomatic field,
>>especially when he was Paris for months as the only diplomat armed with
>>only
>>a secretary and a financial attache or his performance in New York.
>>
>>I would be glad to hear from you what are the qualifications for some one
>>to
>>be appointed an Ambassador.
>>
>>Do not think your "source" did you a favour by telling you that:
>>
>>"Ebrima, guess what, Essay Sey is going to be announced as The Gambia's
>>Ambassador-designate to France…………". This is already common knowledge and
>>this happened weeks ago, it is really stale news for those within the
>media
>>in this country. You are obviously out of touch. Essay and Maodo have
been
>>written to long time ago to inform them of their appointments. The only
>>reason why these appointments are not yet announced publicly is because
>the
>>"agreement" (with French pronunciation) from France and Belgium are not
>yet
>>received. Normally when an Ambassador is appointed, the country he/she is
>>serve is written to request for an "agreement" (pronounced as 'agreema'),
>>which is basically a written acceptance letter from the host Government.
>>This process normally takes from two days to six months or more depending
>>on
>>the bureaucracy, timing and many other factors. So Governments would not
>>normally announce such appointments until an 'agreema' is received and
>that
>>is why these appointments are not yet officially announced.
>>
>>In your reply to William Njie, you wrote:
>>
>>"By the way, I was told that Dr Saja Taal, permanent Secretary at the
>>Ministry of Education, had been sacked for the second time yesterday."
>>
>>Again you are being misinformed. Dr. Saja Taal is now a Permanent
>Secretary
>>to the Office of The President, which is a more influential position than
>>he
>>previous position. I think you should double-check your facts before
>>writing
>>them on the list. One of my teachers once said "always make assurance
>>double
>>sure" before penning down any thing.
>>
>>The reasons you gave for the transfer of Njogou Bah are absolutely wrong
>>and
>>at best malicious and speculative. Why write such "facts" if you cannot
>>substantiate them and in the process, tarnishing the image of these poor
>>innocent individuals (I mean both the maid and Njogou's wife). Njogou,
>>Ismaila, Mr. Grey-Johnson were transferred or recalled for official
>reasons
>>and simply put because their services are needed some were else.
>>
>>Ebrima, from your own opinion, has the Jammeh administration done any
>thing
>>good since it came to power? I would definitely love to have an answer
>from
>>you.
>>
>>PEACE
>>
>>Tombong Saidy
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Asalaamu alaikum bro Madiba,
Alhamdulillah, the One who said: "O ye who believe! Persevere in patience
and constancy: vie in such
perseverance; strengthen each other to guide your territory; and fear
Allah; that you may prosper." Q3:200
And He 'Subhaanahu wa Ta'aala' also said: "By (the Token of) time (through
the Ages). Verily, man is in loss. Except such as have Faith and do
righteous deeds and (join together) in the
mutual teaching of Truth and of Patience and Constancy." Q103:1-3
The Prophet (SAW) also said the best deeds are those that we perform
constantly even if they be small. I commend you for your constancy in
forwarding these valuable pieces of reminders. Please keep it up and don't
let up. May Allah keep your feet firm on the Siraatal Mustaqeem. BTW, do you
know bro Siraajudeen? If so I would like to get in touch because my Sheick
(who taught me the Qur'aan), Hafiz Dr Basil Abu Sharkh, (may Allah protect
him), is a lecturer in Chemical Engineering at the King Fahd Univ. of
Petroleum and Minerals in Dharaan, Saudi Arabia. Probably, they know each
other. Please clarify.
Allahumma salli wasallim alaa Nabiyyina Muhammad. Wasalaam.
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Hei folks,
Please find below a circular letter sent to the two hotels offering the
all- inclusive concept/
Department
of State for Tourism and Cutler
e,
AL 215/01/<39> 17 June
1999.
, The General Manager palma Rima hotel, The general Manager Sunwing
Hotel
Dear General Manager,
THE ALL-INCLUSICE PACKAGE.
As you are no doubt already aware through the public media, The
Gambia Government has decided that the sale of the all- inclusive
holiday package on the Gambia tourist market be stopped. The practice
of offering it as an option be discontinued as Government is in the
process of making an indept analysis ofthe impact of this type of
holiday package, on the national economy.
In taking this decision, Goverment was cognizant of the fact that
some hoteliers had already sold the package in their 1999 Gambia
summer programme which ends on 31st October 1999.
Consequently this decision is effective as of 1st November 1999 and
your management is expected to fully comply with the directive from
Government, as of that date.
I am by copy of this letter requesting the Chairmen Hotel
Association to formally inform all other hoteliers, to comply with the
directive.
Omar Yusupha Njie
PERMANENT SECRETARY
CC The Chairman Gambia Hotel Association.
Thats the good news folks . Chi Jamma and the struggle still
continues.
Bro Tejan.
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Asalaamu alaikum
Alhamdulillah and below is a continuation of the explanation of some of =
the names of Allah by Sheick Asa'adi ( raheemahullah). He wrote:
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Al-Qadeer (the Powerful), Whose power is perfect. By His power He =
created all things that exist, by His power He is controlling all things =
and by His power He formed them and perfected them. By His power He =
gives life and death, and will resurrect His slaves to receive their =
reward or punishment, so that those who have done well will be rewarded =
with good, and those who have done evil will be punished. When Allaah =
wills a thing, He merely says "Be!" and it is. By His power He controls =
people's hearts, and He directs them as He wills.
Al-Lateef (the Most Subtle and Courteous), Whose knowledge encompasses =
everything that is hidden and concealed. He knows everything that is =
secret and understands the most subtle things. He is Kind to His =
believing slaves and takes care of their interests by His benevolence =
and grace, in many ways that they are not even aware of. This Name also =
shares the meanings of al-Khabeer and al-Ra'oof.
Al-Haseeb (the One Who takes account). He is the One Who is All-Knowing =
about His slaves. He is Sufficient for those who put their trust in Him, =
and He rewards or punishes His slaves for good and evil, according to =
His wisdom. He knows about all their deeds, major and minor.
Al-Raqeeb (the Watchful). He is the One Who watches what is hidden in =
people's hearts. ". He Who takes charge of every person and knows all =
that he has earned" [al-Ra'd 13:33 - interpretation of the meaning]. He =
protected His creation and set it in motion, running according to the =
most perfect system and controls.
Al-Hafeez (the Preserver). He is the One Who protects what He has =
created and encompasses it with His knowledge. He protects His close =
friends from falling into sin and destruction, and gently protects them =
when they are active and when they are at rest. He counts the deeds of =
His slaves and rewards or punishes them accordingly.
Al-Muheet (the Encompasser). He is the One Who encompasses all things =
with His knowledge, power, mercy and dominion.
Al-Qahhaar (the Subduer). He is the Subduer of all things, to Whom all =
of creation submits because of His power and strength and the perfection =
of His Might.
Al-Muqeet (the Provider of sustenance). He gives provision to everything =
that exists and directs the affairs of all as He wills.
Al-Wakeel (the Trustee). He is the One Who is in a position to run the =
affairs of His creation, by His knowledge and the perfection of His =
power and His encompassing wisdom. He is the One Who is taking care of =
His close friends, making the right way easy for them and causing them =
to steer clear of the wrong way. He is taking care of all their affairs, =
and whoever puts his trust in Him will find that He is Sufficient for =
him.=20
"Allaah is the Walee (Protector or Guardian) of those who believe. He =
brings them out from darkness into light." [al-Baqarah 2:257 - =
interpretation of the meaning].=20
Dhoo'l-Jalaali wa'l-Ikraam (Possessor of Majesty and Honour), i.e., the =
Possessor of Might and Pride, the Possessor of Mercy and Generosity, Who =
is kind to everyone and to specific individuals. He honours His close =
friends and devoted worshippers who glorify Him, extol His greatness and =
love Him.
Al-Wudood (the Loving). He loves His Prophets and Messengers and their =
followers, and they love Him. He is dearer to them than everything else. =
He has filled their hearts with love for Him and their tongues utter =
words of praise to Him. Their hearts are drawn to Him in love and =
sincerity and they turn in repentance to Him at all times.
Al-Fattaah (the Opener). He judges between His slaves according to His =
laws, His decrees and His decisions concerning reward and punishment. By =
His Grace He opens the eyes of those who are sincere, and opens their =
hearts to know Him, love Him and turn to Him in repentance. He opens the =
door to all kinds of mercy and provision for His slaves, and generates =
the causes by means of which they can earn good things in this world and =
the next.
"Whatever of mercy (i.e., good) Allaah may grant to mankind, none can =
withhold it, and whatever He may withhold, none can grant it =
thereafter." Faatir 35:2 - interpretation of the meaning]
Al-Razzaaq (the Provider), Who provides for all His slaves. There is no =
living creature on earth, but Allaah provides for it.
His provision for His slaves is of two types:
General provision, which include the righteous and immoral, the first =
and the last. This is the provision of physical needs.
Specific provision, which is provision for the heart which is nourished =
with knowledge and faith, and the halaal provision which helps a person =
to adhere to religion. This provision is specifically for the believers, =
and is given to varying degrees according to His wisdom and mercy.
Al-Hakam (the Judge), al-'Adl (the Just). He judges between His slaves =
in this world and the next, with His justice and fairness. He does not =
oppress anyone in the slightest, and no one is made to bear the burden =
of another person's sin. He does not punish a person more than he =
deserves for his sin, he restores to people their rights and does not =
leave anyone without restoring what is his right. He is just in His =
running of the universe and in His decision making.=20
". Verily, My Lord is on a Straight Path (the truth)."=20
[Hood 11:56 - interpretation of the meaning].
Jaami' al-Naas (Gatherer of the People). He will gather all of mankind =
on the Day concerning which there is no doubt. He has comprehensive =
knowledge of their deeds and their provision, and there is nothing, =
major or minor, that He is not aware of. He will gather every particle =
of their bodies that has disappeared or been changed into something =
else, of all the people who have died from the earliest times until the =
latest times, by the perfection of His power and the vastness of His =
knowledge.=20
Al-Hayy (the Ever-Living), al-Qayyoom (the Self-Sustaining). He is =
completely alive and sustains Himself, and He sustains and cares for the =
people of heaven and earth. He controls their affairs and provides for =
them. The name al-Hayy encompasses all the qualities of His essence and =
the name al-Qayyoom encompasses all the qualities of His deeds.
Al-Noor (the Light). He is the Light of the heavens and of the earth, =
who enlightens the hearts of the 'aarifeen (those who have proper =
knowledge of Him) with knowledge of Him and fills their hearts with the =
light of His guidance. He is the One Who illuminates the heavens and the =
earth with the lights that He has placed therein. His veil is Light and =
if it were to be removed, everything of His creation as far as He can =
see would be burnt, may He be glorified.
Badee' al-Samawaati wa'l-Ard (Originator of the heavens and the earth). =
He is the One Who created them and formed them with the utmost beauty =
and with the most magnificent system of organization.
Al-Qaabid (the Constrictor), al-Baasit (the Expander). He is the One Who =
takes people's souls, and Who provides them with ample provision and =
expands their hearts. All of this is in accordance with His Wisdom and =
Mercy.=20
Al-Mu'ti (the Giver), al-Maani' (the Withholder). No-one can withhold =
what He gives, and no one can give what He withholds. All interests and =
benefits are sought from Him, and the needs of all are addressed to Him. =
He is the One Who gives them to whomever He wills and withholds them =
from whomever He wills, by His Wisdom and Mercy.=20
Al-Shaheed (the Witness). He is the One Who watches over all things and =
hears all voices, loud and soft. He sees all that exists, great and =
small alike. His knowledge encompasses all things, and He is the Witness =
Who sees all the deeds of His slaves, good and bad alike.
Al-Mubdi' (the Originator), al-Mu'eed (the Restorer). Allaah says =
(interpretation of the meaning):=20
"And it is He Who originates the creation, then will repeat (after it =
has perished)."=20
[al-Room 30:27]
He initiated their creation, in order to test them as to which of them =
would be best in deeds, then He will re-create them in order to reward =
with good those who did well, and punish those who did evil.
He is the One Who initiated His creation in stages, and Who is =
constantly renewing it.
Al-Fa''aal lima yureed (the One Who does whatever He wants). This has to =
do with the perfection of His power and the strength of His will and =
ability. Everything He wants, He does, with nothing to stop Him and no =
one to oppose Him, and with no support or help, no matter what it is. If =
He wants something, all he has to do is say "Be!" and it is. Although He =
can do whatever He wants, His will operates in conjunction with His =
Wisdom, may He be praised, so He is described as being completely Able =
and being Strong of will, but also as being completely Wise in all that =
He has done and will do.
Al-Ghaniy (the Self-Sufficient), al-Mughni (the Enricher). He is =
independent in and of Himself, and is completely Independent in all =
aspects, because of His perfection and the perfection of His attributes. =
Nothing can undermine His perfection and make Him imperfect in any way =
whatsoever. He cannot be anything but Self-Sufficient, because this =
self-sufficiency is one of His essential qualities, just as He cannot be =
anything but the Creator, the Able, the Provider, the Kind, Who does not =
need anyone else at all.
He is the Self-Sufficient in Whose hands are the treasures of the =
heavens and the earth, the treasures of this world and of the Hereafter. =
He gives His creation enough in general terms so that they do not have =
to seek help of anyone else, and He gives to specific people of the =
divine knowledge and realities of faith with which He has filled their =
hearts.=20
Al-Haleem (the Forbearing One). He is the One Who showers His creation =
with blessings both apparent and hidden, in spite of their sins and many =
mistakes. He is Forbearing and does not punish sinners straight away for =
their sins. He rebukes them so that they will repent, and gives them =
time to turn to Him in repentance.
Al-Shaakir (the Grateful), al-Shakoor (the Appreciative). He is the One =
Who appreciates the smallest deed, and forgives the greatest mistakes. =
He multiplies beyond measure the deeds of those who are sincere; He =
appreciates those who give thanks to Him, and He remembers those who =
remember Him. Whoever draws near to Him with something of righteous =
deeds, He draws near to him by more than that.
Al-Qareeb (the Ever-Near), al-Mujeeb (the Responsive). Allaah, may He be =
glorified, is near to everyone, and His nearness is of two types:
His nearness to everyone in a general sense, through His knowledge, =
watching, awareness and witnessing, which encompass all things.
His nearness in a specific sense, to His slaves, those who ask help of =
Him and those who love Him. The true nature of this closeness cannot be =
understood, but its effects may be seen in His kindness towards His =
slave, and His care, support and help of him. Another of its effects is =
His response to those who call on Him and His acceptance of the =
repentance of those who worship Him. He is also the One Who responds in =
a specific way to those who respond to Him and follow His religion. He =
also responds to those who are in need and to those who no longer have =
any hope in any of His creation, and who put their trust in Him, hoping =
for His pleasure and fearing His wrath.
Al-Kaafi (the Sufficient). He is the One Who gives His slaves all that =
they need. More specifically, He is Sufficient for the one who believes =
in Him and puts his trust in Him and asks Him for all that he needs in =
worldly and spiritual terms.
Al-Awwal (the First), al-Aakhir (the Last); al-Zaahir (the Manifest), =
al-Baatin (the Hidden). The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be =
upon him) explained this in a clear and comprehensive fashion when he =
said, addressing his Lord: "You are the First, and there is nothing =
before You; You are the Last, and there is nothing after You. You are =
the Manifest and there is nothing above You; You are the Hidden and =
there is nothing beneath You."
Al-Waasi' (the All-Encompassing). His attributes and qualities, and =
everything that has to do with Him, are all-encompassing in such a way =
that no one can praise Him as He deserves, but He is as He praised =
Himself, vast in power, might and dominion, and vast in grace and =
kindness, and vast in generosity and munificence.
Al-Haadi (the Guide), al-Rasheed (the Guide to the Right Path). He is =
the One Who guides His slaves and shows them the way to all that will =
benefit them, and protects them from all that will harm them. He teaches =
them what they do not know, and guides them to the true guidance which =
will help them and set them straight. He fills them with taqwa (piety) =
and causes their hearts to turn to Him, in response to His command.
The name al-Rasheed has a meaning akin to that of al-Hakeem: He is Wise =
in word and deed, and all His laws are good and wise. His creation =
testifies to His wisdom.
Al-Haqq (the Truth). He is true in and of Himself and in His attributes. =
His existence is undeniable, and His attributes are perfect. His =
existence is one of His essential qualities (He cannot but exist), and =
nothing else can exist except through Him. He is the One Who has always =
been and will always be described with attributes of majesty, beauty and =
perfection. He has always been and will always be known for His =
Kindness. His words are truth; the meeting with Him is truth; His =
Messengers are truth; His Books are truth; His religion is the Truth; =
the worship of Him Alone, with no partners or associates, is the Truth; =
everything that has to do with Him is truth. Allaah is the Truth and =
whatever else they claim to be divine besides Him is false. Allaah is =
the Most High, the Most Great, as He says (interpretation of the =
meanings):
"And say: 'The Truth is from your Lord.' Then whosoever wills, let him =
believe, and whosoever wills, let him disbelieve."=20
[al-Isra' 18:29].
". So, after the truth, what else can there be, save error?."
[Yoonus 10:32]
"And say: 'Truth has come and falsehood has vanished. Surely, falsehood =
is ever bound to vanish.'"[al-Isra' 17:81]
From Tayseer al-Kareem al-Rahmaan fi Tafseer Kalaam al-Mannaan by Shaykh =
'Abd al-Rahmaan al-Sa'di (5/620).
Allahumma salli wasallim alaa Nabiyyina Muhammad. Wasalaam.
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D4>Alhamdulillah and below is =
a=20
continuation of the explanation of some of the names of Allah by Sheick =
Asa'adi=20
( raheemahullah). He wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D4><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Qadeer</B></U> (the Powerful), Whose power is =
perfect. By=20
His power He created all things that exist, by His power He is =
controlling all=20
things and by His power He formed them and perfected them. By His power =
He gives=20
life and death, and will resurrect His slaves to receive their reward or =
punishment, so that those who have done well will be rewarded with good, =
and=20
those who have done evil will be punished. When Allaah wills a thing, He =
merely=20
says “Be!” and it is. By His power He controls =
people’s hearts, and He directs=20
them as He wills.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Lateef</B></U> (the Most Subtle and Courteous), =
Whose=20
knowledge encompasses everything that is hidden and concealed. He knows=20
everything that is secret and understands the most subtle things. He is =
Kind to=20
His believing slaves and takes care of their interests by His =
benevolence and=20
grace, in many ways that they are not even aware of. This Name also =
shares the=20
meanings of al-Khabeer and al-Ra’oof.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Haseeb</B></U> (the One Who takes account). He is =
the One=20
Who is All-Knowing about His slaves. He is Sufficient for those who put =
their=20
trust in Him, and He rewards or punishes His slaves for good and evil, =
according=20
to His wisdom. He knows about all their deeds, major and =
minor.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Raqeeb</B></U> (the Watchful). He is the One Who =
watches=20
what is hidden in people’s hearts. <I>“… He Who takes =
charge of every person and=20
knows all that he has earned” [al-Ra’d 13:33 – =
interpretation of the=20
meaning].</I> He protected His creation and set it in motion, running =
according=20
to the most perfect system and controls.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Hafeez</B></U> (the Preserver). He is the One Who =
protects=20
what He has created and encompasses it with His knowledge. He protects =
His close=20
friends from falling into sin and destruction, and gently protects them =
when=20
they are active and when they are at rest. He counts the deeds of His =
slaves and=20
rewards or punishes them accordingly.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Muheet</B></U> (the Encompasser). He is the One =
Who=20
encompasses all things with His knowledge, power, mercy and =
dominion.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Qahhaar</B></U> (the Subduer). He is the Subduer =
of all=20
things, to Whom all of creation submits because of His power and =
strength and=20
the perfection of His Might.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Muqeet</B></U> (the Provider of sustenance). He =
gives=20
provision to everything that exists and directs the affairs of all as He =
wills.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Wakeel</B></U> (the Trustee). He is the One Who is =
in a=20
position to run the affairs of His creation, by His knowledge and the =
perfection=20
of His power and His encompassing wisdom. He is the One Who is taking =
care of=20
His close friends, making the right way easy for them and causing them =
to steer=20
clear of the wrong way. He is taking care of all their affairs, and =
whoever puts=20
his trust in Him will find that He is Sufficient for him<I>. </P>
<P align=3Djustify>“Allaah is the Walee (Protector or Guardian) of =
those who=20
believe. He brings them out from darkness into light…” =
[al-Baqarah 2:257 –=20
interpretation of the meaning]</I>. </P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Dhoo’l-Jalaali wa’l-Ikraam</B></U> =
(Possessor of Majesty and=20
Honour), i.e., the Possessor of Might and Pride, the Possessor of Mercy =
and=20
Generosity, Who is kind to everyone and to specific individuals. He =
honours His=20
close friends and devoted worshippers who glorify Him, extol His =
greatness and=20
love Him.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Wudood</B></U> (the Loving). He loves His Prophets =
and=20
Messengers and their followers, and they love Him. He is dearer to them =
than=20
everything else. He has filled their hearts with love for Him and their =
tongues=20
utter words of praise to Him. Their hearts are drawn to Him in love and=20
sincerity and they turn in repentance to Him at all times.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Fattaah</B></U> (the Opener). He judges between =
His slaves=20
according to His laws, His decrees and His decisions concerning reward =
and=20
punishment. By His Grace He opens the eyes of those who are sincere, and =
opens=20
their hearts to know Him, love Him and turn to Him in repentance. He =
opens the=20
door to all kinds of mercy and provision for His slaves, and generates =
the=20
causes by means of which they can earn good things in this world and the =
next.</P><I>
<P align=3Djustify>“Whatever of mercy (i.e., good) Allaah may =
grant to mankind,=20
none can withhold it, and whatever He may withhold, none can grant it=20
thereafter…” Faatir 35:2 – interpretation of the =
meaning]</I></P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Razzaaq</B></U> (the Provider), Who provides for =
all His=20
slaves. There is no living creature on earth, but Allaah provides for =
it.</P>
<P align=3Djustify>His provision for His slaves is of two types:</P>
<P align=3Djustify>General provision, which include the righteous and =
immoral, the=20
first and the last. This is the provision of physical needs.</P>
<P align=3Djustify>Specific provision, which is provision for the heart =
which is=20
nourished with knowledge and faith, and the halaal provision which helps =
a=20
person to adhere to religion. This provision is specifically for the =
believers,=20
and is given to varying degrees according to His wisdom and =
mercy.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Hakam</B></U> (the Judge), =
<U><B>al-‘Adl</B></U> (the Just).=20
He judges between His slaves in this world and the next, with His =
justice and=20
fairness. He does not oppress anyone in the slightest, and no one is =
made to=20
bear the burden of another person’s sin. He does not punish a =
person more than=20
he deserves for his sin, he restores to people their rights and does not =
leave=20
anyone without restoring what is his right. He is just in His running of =
the=20
universe and in His decision making. <I></P>
<P align=3Djustify>“… Verily, My Lord is on a Straight Path =
(the truth)…” </P>
<P align=3Djustify>[Hood 11:56 – interpretation of the =
meaning].</I></P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Jaami’ al-Naas</B></U> (Gatherer of the =
People). He will gather=20
all of mankind on the Day concerning which there is no doubt. He has=20
comprehensive knowledge of their deeds and their provision, and there is =
nothing, major or minor, that He is not aware of. He will gather every =
particle=20
of their bodies that has disappeared or been changed into something =
else, of all=20
the people who have died from the earliest times until the latest times, =
by the=20
perfection of His power and the vastness of His knowledge. </P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Hayy</B></U> (the Ever-Living), =
<U><B>al-Qayyoom</B></U>=20
(the Self-Sustaining). He is completely alive and sustains Himself, and =
He=20
sustains and cares for the people of heaven and earth. He controls their =
affairs=20
and provides for them. The name al-Hayy encompasses all the qualities of =
His=20
essence and the name al-Qayyoom encompasses all the qualities of His=20
deeds.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Noor</B></U> (the Light). He is the Light of the =
heavens and=20
of the earth, who enlightens the hearts of the ‘aarifeen (those =
who have proper=20
knowledge of Him) with knowledge of Him and fills their hearts with the =
light of=20
His guidance. He is the One Who illuminates the heavens and the earth =
with the=20
lights that He has placed therein. His veil is Light and if it were to =
be=20
removed, everything of His creation as far as He can see would be burnt, =
may He=20
be glorified.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Badee’ al-Samawaati wa’l-Ard</B></U> =
(Originator of the heavens=20
and the earth). He is the One Who created them and formed them with the =
utmost=20
beauty and with the most magnificent system of organization.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Qaabid</B></U> (the Constrictor), =
<U><B>al-Baasit</B></U>=20
(the Expander). He is the One Who takes people’s souls, and Who =
provides them=20
with ample provision and expands their hearts. All of this is in =
accordance with=20
His Wisdom and Mercy. </P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Mu’ti</B></U> (the Giver), =
<U><B>al-Maani’</B></U> (the=20
Withholder). No-one can withhold what He gives, and no one can give what =
He=20
withholds. All interests and benefits are sought from Him, and the needs =
of all=20
are addressed to Him. He is the One Who gives them to whomever He wills =
and=20
withholds them from whomever He wills, by His Wisdom and Mercy. =
</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Shaheed</B></U> (the Witness). He is the One Who =
watches=20
over all things and hears all voices, loud and soft. He sees all that =
exists,=20
great and small alike. His knowledge encompasses all things, and He is =
the=20
Witness Who sees all the deeds of His slaves, good and bad =
alike.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Mubdi’</B></U> (the Originator), =
<U><B>al-Mu’eed</B></U>=20
(the Restorer). Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): </P><I>
<P align=3Djustify>“And it is He Who originates the creation, then =
will repeat=20
(after it has perished)…” </P>
<P align=3Djustify>[al-Room 30:27]</P></I>
<P align=3Djustify>He initiated their creation, in order to test them as =
to which=20
of them would be best in deeds, then He will re-create them in order to =
reward=20
with good those who did well, and punish those who did evil.</P>
<P align=3Djustify>He is the One Who initiated His creation in stages, =
and Who is=20
constantly renewing it.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Fa’’aal lima yureed</B></U> (the One =
Who does whatever He=20
wants). This has to do with the perfection of His power and the strength =
of His=20
will and ability. Everything He wants, He does, with nothing to stop Him =
and no=20
one to oppose Him, and with no support or help, no matter what it is. If =
He=20
wants something, all he has to do is say “Be!” and it is. =
Although He can do=20
whatever He wants, His will operates in conjunction with His Wisdom, may =
He be=20
praised, so He is described as being completely Able and being Strong of =
will,=20
but also as being completely Wise in all that He has done and will =
do.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Ghaniy</B></U> (the Self-Sufficient),=20
<U><B>al-Mughni</B></U> (the Enricher). He is independent in and of =
Himself, and=20
is completely Independent in all aspects, because of His perfection and =
the=20
perfection of His attributes. Nothing can undermine His perfection and =
make Him=20
imperfect in any way whatsoever. He cannot be anything but =
Self-Sufficient,=20
because this self-sufficiency is one of His essential qualities, just as =
He=20
cannot be anything but the Creator, the Able, the Provider, the Kind, =
Who does=20
not need anyone else at all.</P>
<P align=3Djustify>He is the Self-Sufficient in Whose hands are the =
treasures of=20
the heavens and the earth, the treasures of this world and of the =
Hereafter. He=20
gives His creation enough in general terms so that they do not have to =
seek help=20
of anyone else, and He gives to specific people of the divine knowledge =
and=20
realities of faith with which He has filled their hearts. </P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Haleem</B></U> (the Forbearing One). He is the One =
Who=20
showers His creation with blessings both apparent and hidden, in spite =
of their=20
sins and many mistakes. He is Forbearing and does not punish sinners =
straight=20
away for their sins. He rebukes them so that they will repent, and gives =
them=20
time to turn to Him in repentance.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Shaakir</B></U> (the Grateful), =
<U><B>al-Shakoor</B></U>=20
(the Appreciative). He is the One Who appreciates the smallest deed, and =
forgives the greatest mistakes. He multiplies beyond measure the deeds =
of those=20
who are sincere; He appreciates those who give thanks to Him, and He =
remembers=20
those who remember Him. Whoever draws near to Him with something of =
righteous=20
deeds, He draws near to him by more than that.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Qareeb</B></U> (the Ever-Near), =
<U><B>al-Mujeeb</B></U> (the=20
Responsive). Allaah, may He be glorified, is near to everyone, and His =
nearness=20
is of two types:</P>
<P align=3Djustify>His nearness to everyone in a general sense, through =
His=20
knowledge, watching, awareness and witnessing, which encompass all =
things.</P>
<P align=3Djustify>His nearness in a specific sense, to His slaves, =
those who ask=20
help of Him and those who love Him. The true nature of this closeness =
cannot be=20
understood, but its effects may be seen in His kindness towards His =
slave, and=20
His care, support and help of him. Another of its effects is His =
response to=20
those who call on Him and His acceptance of the repentance of those who =
worship=20
Him. He is also the One Who responds in a specific way to those who =
respond to=20
Him and follow His religion. He also responds to those who are in need =
and to=20
those who no longer have any hope in any of His creation, and who put =
their=20
trust in Him, hoping for His pleasure and fearing His wrath.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Kaafi</B></U> (the Sufficient). He is the One Who =
gives His=20
slaves all that they need. More specifically, He is Sufficient for the =
one who=20
believes in Him and puts his trust in Him and asks Him for all that he =
needs in=20
worldly and spiritual terms.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Awwal</B></U> (the First), <U><B>al-Aakhir</B></U> =
(the=20
Last); <U><B>al-Zaahir</B></U> (the Manifest), <U><B>al-Baatin</B></U> =
(the=20
Hidden). The Prophet <IMG src=3D"http://islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> =
(peace and=20
blessings of Allaah be upon him) explained this in a clear and =
comprehensive=20
fashion when he said, addressing his Lord: “You are the First, and =
there is=20
nothing before You; You are the Last, and there is nothing after You. =
You are=20
the Manifest and there is nothing above You; You are the Hidden and =
there is=20
nothing beneath You.”</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Waasi’</B></U> (the All-Encompassing). His =
attributes and=20
qualities, and everything that has to do with Him, are all-encompassing =
in such=20
a way that no one can praise Him as He deserves, but He is as He praised =
Himself, vast in power, might and dominion, and vast in grace and =
kindness, and=20
vast in generosity and munificence.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Haadi</B></U> (the Guide), =
<U><B>al-Rasheed</B></U> (the=20
Guide to the Right Path). He is the One Who guides His slaves and shows =
them the=20
way to all that will benefit them, and protects them from all that will =
harm=20
them. He teaches them what they do not know, and guides them to the true =
guidance which will help them and set them straight. He fills them with =
taqwa=20
(piety) and causes their hearts to turn to Him, in response to His =
command.</P>
<P align=3Djustify>The name al-Rasheed has a meaning akin to that of =
al-Hakeem: He=20
is Wise in word and deed, and all His laws are good and wise. His =
creation=20
testifies to His wisdom.</P><U><B>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Haqq</B></U> (the Truth). He is true in and of =
Himself and=20
in His attributes. His existence is undeniable, and His attributes are =
perfect.=20
His existence is one of His essential qualities (He cannot but exist), =
and=20
nothing else can exist except through Him. He is the One Who has always =
been and=20
will always be described with attributes of majesty, beauty and =
perfection. He=20
has always been and will always be known for His Kindness. His words are =
truth;=20
the meeting with Him is truth; His Messengers are truth; His Books are =
truth;=20
His religion is the Truth; the worship of Him Alone, with no partners or =
associates, is the Truth; everything that has to do with Him is truth. =
Allaah is=20
the Truth and whatever else they claim to be divine besides Him is =
false. Allaah=20
is the Most High, the Most Great, as He says (interpretation of the=20
meanings):</P><I>
<P align=3Djustify>“And say: ‘The Truth is from your =
Lord.’ Then whosoever wills,=20
let him believe, and whosoever wills, let him disbelieve…” =
</P>
<P align=3Djustify>[al-Isra’ 18:29].</P>
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Lers,
Ebrima, you should let sleeping dogs lie ! I happen to criticise people
based on established facts and supported by clear examples, you seem to be a
misled investigator. Please try getting your facts right before sitting to
your pc.
For your information Essa Sey is serving(was) at the mission in New York.
Next time work hard on your "reliable source" and let sleeping dogs lie !!!!
Try spelling my name right !
It's Finnah
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>Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:57:41 PDT
>
>William Njie,
>
>My apologies to you, and I hope you'll forgive me for the error. I should
>have waited until Alan Mboge, or Ndey Jobarteh, rejoins the list before
>raising this matter.
>
>I am confusing things here. I now remember very well, it was Ebou Manneh's
>IP number and that of Finna Ceesay that were checked, just out of
>curiosity.
>
>As for you, Finna, I am not doubting your existence at all. Your IP number
>was only checked, because of curiosity, in the wake of some of the things
>you were saying about Tombong.
>
>As for the Ebou Manneh postings, I know where they do come from, and I'll
>shed light on the matter, at the appropriate time.
>
>Meanwhile, I am urging Gambia L subscribers to wait until they read my
>reaction, before forming a judgement. I have handled polemical situations
>which were far more complicated than this one.
>
>As long as there are no insults or disrespect, I am ready for an
>enlightening debate.
>
>Finally, I repeat my apology to William Njie, and I hope he forgives me for
>the mistake.
>
>Ebrima Ceesay,
>Birmingham, UK.
>
>PS: Gambia L, just to say that I have not forgotten that I should give you
>an update on the proposed directory of Gambian "professionals". I couldn't
>believe the positive feed backs I am getting privately, from Gambians and
>friends of the Gambia all over the world.
>
>When I thought about the idea of publishing a directory, I just wanted to
>do
>something small; a reference book I can even finish within four months
>period.
>
>But, right now, private individuals and even donor agencies/Foundations
>have
>been contacting me, pledging moral, material and financial support, so that
>the project can get off the ground.
>
>Although, I must add that the kind of "Master Directory" these people are
>suggesting, and ready to finance, will take at least one year. But the good
>thing is that it can be done.
>
>This directory is "long over due", commented many.
>
>Anyway, I am very grateful to the L, because it was the forum where the
>issue was first raised. I'll be very transparent with the whole thing. I'll
>tell those pledging financial/material support for the project, to do
>everything through the L, or they should forget it. I cannot accuse Mr
>Jammeh of not being transparent and accountable, when I am also guilty of
>the same offence.
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Peter,
Thanks for pointing that out. I was in a hurry to go to work, however the
facts are correct.
PEACE
Tombong
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Amadou Kabir Njie <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Dear Kabir,
I only hope that Mafy will reply !I just want to wait until then.He will =
not
only hear from me that a revolutionary leader need not build a Mosque at =
a
state ground that belongs to the people for his private use,it is only ty=
rants
that tells their people to short their mouths or go six feet deep and not=
revolutionary leaders.
For Freedom
Saiks
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Malafy "Mafy" Jarju Wrote among things:
>>What your impeccable sources failed to tell you is that Essa is not onl=
y
adequately qualified
>>for such a position but also a loyal ally of the revolution who served
>>in the Gambian armed forces along with His Excellency the President.
What revolution are you talking about? Do you call what is happening in T=
he
Gambia right now a revolution?!? Please clarify.
You also wrote:
>>Democracy is in the Gambia to stay and even refugees have the right to=
criticize policy or >>policy makers.
Syngle Nyassi is yet to realise that!!!
A. Kabir Njie.
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Sidibeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Dear Sidibeh,
Your points are well noted.What came immediately in mind is what I believ=
ed
you wanted to say but did no say it very clear,correct me if I am wrong.A=
nd
that is the democratic rights that was fought for and won under the new
colonial PPP regime is not only been rolled back but that the situation i=
s
getting worst.This is what I was saying from day one of the coup that thi=
s is
how the situation very likely will develop.Now we do not only have the
paramilitary,the case of Sygnle is new,remember the case of Donkey Sillah=
was
of not such a character.NIA is more aggressive now than the days of
neo-colonial PPP regime.The democratic process that was on before the cou=
p is
being halted,without us getting this clear in our heads many miscalculati=
ons
will be done,it must not take us another 30 years to start registering
victories.
for freedom
Saiks
Saiks,
Thanks a lot for an important piece. Indeed Koro Ceesay's death was a
tremendous loss to the country and most of us who had had the privilege o=
f
knowing him, would continue to miss him dearly.
Politically, I think, looking at it broadly, KC's loss is a reflection of=
the now archaic disunity of the Gambian Left generally, and the linelessn=
ess
and peculiar ideological vaccilations of MOJA militants, specifically. Ma=
ny
comrades seemed to have substituted the military for the working class; a=
nd
consequently the revolutionary programme of the AFPRC was believed to be =
a
feasible liberationist agenda.
When, as you wrote, we finally know "how" KC died, we would be in a posit=
ion
to discern clearly the forces that enhanced the adoption of reformist
tendencies as opposed to the path toward revolutionary politics.
Your piece is very timely in that we are at this very moment, witnessing =
the
swift erosion of those rights and freedoms that the July 22 takeover is
supposed not only to guarantee, but the DEFEND!
TO Ndey and Yourself,
The Struggle Continues - For Freedom!
Momodou S. Sidibeh
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Subject: Re: CNN is reporting -Terrorist Attacks in Africa again!!
LordHelpUs!!!
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Solomon
I only attended the picnic and the soccer games It was crowded but when
darkness fell my bald head lit the whole place ( laugh)
As I told Sang I am not a late night person (I leave that to the young
ones like you) Andrew knows my party days are over and since the events
at night start as late as 2 am, I am already asleep by then..
Hopefully I will see you in your new home town Atlanta soon who we beat
at the ALD soccer tournament. Thanks to TiJan.
No one disagrees with the wrongful and criminal acts of any terrorists
no matter where they originate from . We have seen many instances where
wrong fact and or assumptions lead to misinformation and animosity , so
that was my reason for caution .
You just solved a case a few minuites ago when you rightly correct
Ebrima Ceesay about email addresses without offending any one based on
facts.
One man's food is another man's poison.
I can clearly remember a historic case of Benahem Begin who later became
the Prime minister of Israel when he bombed the King David Hotel
against the British occupation .When he was called a terrorist by
Scotland Yard , he said he was a liberator. Everyone labels his enemies
as they wish to suite themselves.
Yes it is horrible to do any criminal act of bombing innocent people
whether it is in our motherland or in the Atlanta Olympics or in the
subways of Japan or in the streets of Algeria.
BTW as you rightly call them cowards in hiding ( like Hitler in bunkers)
choose random targets which unfortunately lead to common law abiding
citizens like us suffer for --Imagine profiling any Islamic sounding
names (or African )for questioning at Airports
,work etc. would lead to unnecessary discrimination to many of us .
These cowards can be stopped by common people like us at the source by
demanding that we will not support them to kill anyone directly or
indirectly .This is even true for individuals within any Government be
it the CIA, Mossad, Savak, NIA, TonTons of PapaDoc etc.
I hope you understand it was not pointed at you but just a general
statement and secondly I am your older brother who can "regleh" you any
time.
Take care
It's Habib
Solomon Sylva wrote:
> Brother Habib wrote: "Solomon
> Before you jump into any conclusions check out the facts
> and the author of that piece.
> Remember it is not everything that is written or said that
> may be the truth . Many times such stories are designed to
> divert attention or scare us.
> Personally ,I think violence is not the solution to ant
> problem no matter what your belief
> Habib
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Hey Chief, I do not jump into conclusion as quickly as you may think.
> But since we have tragically experiencedthis, not very long ago, in
> East Africa. This should be a wake-up call or eye-opener for us to
> realize thatthis sort of coward acts, can happen, again and again, on
> our soil at any given day or time. We should be against such barbaric
> acts being brought into our Motherland, in the first place. BTW, I was
> up for the ALD and never saw you in any of the events. What's up with
> that?:>)))))) Looking forward to seeing soon PeaceKing Solomon
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Solomon
<br>I only attended the picnic and the soccer games It was crowded but
when darkness fell my bald head lit the whole place ( laugh)
<br>As I told Sang I am not a late night person (I leave that to the young
ones like you) Andrew knows my party days are over and since the events
at night start as late as 2 am, I am already asleep by then..
<p>Hopefully I will see you in your new home town Atlanta soon who we beat
at the ALD soccer tournament. Thanks to TiJan.
<p>No one disagrees with the wrongful and criminal acts of any terrorists
no matter where they originate from . We have seen many instances where
wrong fact and or assumptions lead to misinformation and animosity , so
that was my reason for caution .
<br>You just solved a case a few minuites ago when you rightly correct
Ebrima Ceesay about email addresses without offending any one based on
facts.
<p>One man's food is another man's poison.
<p>I can clearly remember a historic case of Benahem Begin who later became
the Prime minister of Israel when he bombed the King David Hotel
against the British occupation .When he was called a terrorist by Scotland
Yard , he said he was a liberator. Everyone labels his enemies as they
wish to suite themselves.
<br>Yes it is horrible to do any criminal act of bombing innocent people
whether it is in our motherland or in the Atlanta Olympics or in
the subways of Japan or in the streets of Algeria.
<br>BTW as you rightly call them cowards in hiding ( like Hitler in bunkers)
choose random targets which unfortunately lead to common law abiding citizens
like us suffer for --Imagine profiling any Islamic sounding names (or African
)for questioning at Airports
<br>,work etc. would lead to unnecessary discrimination to many of us .
<br>These cowards can be stopped by common people like us at the source
by demanding that we will not support them to kill anyone directly or indirectly
.This is even true for individuals within any Government be it the CIA,
Mossad, Savak, NIA, TonTons of PapaDoc etc.
<p>I hope you understand it was not pointed at you but just a general
statement and secondly I am your older brother who can "regleh" you any
time.
<p>Take care
<br>It's Habib
<p>Solomon Sylva wrote:
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<blockquote
style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"><font size=-1><b>Brother
Habib wrote</b>:</font> <font size=-1>"Solomon</font>
<br><font size=-1>Before you jump into any conclusions check out
the facts and the author of that piece.</font>
<br><font size=-1>Remember it is not everything that is written or said
that may be the truth . Many times such stories are designed to divert
attention or scare us.</font>
<br><font size=-1>Personally ,I think violence is not the solution to ant
problem no matter what your belief</font>
<br><font size=-1>Habib</font>
<hr color=#008080></blockquote>
<b><font face="Bookman Old Style"><font size=-1>Hey Chief,</font></font></b> <b><font face="Bookman Old Style"><font size=-1>I
do not jump into conclusion as quickly as you may think. But since we have
tragically experienced</font></font></b><b><font face="Bookman Old Style"><font size=-1>this,
not very long ago, in East Africa. This should be a wake-up call or eye-opener
for us to realize that</font></font></b><b><font face="Bookman Old Style"><font size=-1>this
sort of coward acts, can happen, again and again, on our soil at any given
day or time.</font></font></b> <b><font face="Bookman Old Style"><font size=-1>We
should be against such barbaric acts being brought into our Motherland,
in the first place.</font></font></b> <b><font face="Bookman Old Style"><font size=-1>BTW,
I was up for the ALD and never saw you in any of the events. What's up
with that?:>))))))</font></font></b> <b><font face="Bookman Old Style"><font size=-1>Looking
forward to seeing soon</font></font></b> <b><font face="Bookman Old Style"><font size=-1>Peace</font></font></b><b><font face="Bookman Old Style"><font size=-1>King
Solomon</font></font></b></blockquote>
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 21:11:52 -0400
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I hope this piece will explain why I asked you for caution
I hope you will not be offended so we may all learn to avoid what
happened to the Japanese during the WW2 here in the USA not to long
ago. Part off the reason of that article is to justify this bill
Read on and Thanks for listening
Habib Diab Ghanim
MEMORANDUM
TO: Interested Persons
FROM: Gregory T. Nojeim, Legislative Counsel, American Civil Liberties
Union
RE: Terrorism Bill, H.R. 2184, Scheduled for Subcommittee Mark-up in the
Week of June 21, 1999
DATE: June 16, 1999
BACKGROUND
The House Judiciary Committee's Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims
is
scheduled to mark up during the week of June 21 an anti-terrorism bill,
H.R.
2184, introduced to Rep. Robert Andrews (D-N.J.) on June 14. The ACLU
urges
members of the Subcommittee to oppose the bill because it would result
in
deportation of aliens based merely on their speech or their associations
with others, including aliens who have not and would not engage in
violent
terrorist activity. In so doing, the bill would resurrect the "guilt by
association" principles of the McCarran-Walter Act, even though
McCarran-
Walter was ridiculed as unfair and was repealed by Congress in 1990
after a
federal district court declared it unconstitutional. The bill ignores
one of
the most fundamental aspects of constitutional law in this area: people
should be deported based on their violent activities, not based on
constitutionally-protected activity, such as membership in a group and
mere
speech.
Rejecting these most fundamental principles, the Andrews bill would:
* allow for deportation of aliens based merely on their membership in a
"terrorist" organization, regardless of whether the organization is
formally
designated a terrorist organization, and no matter how innocent an
individual's membership;
* render the process in current law for designating organizations
"foreign
terrorist organizations" a virtual nullity for immigration purposes
because
it would allow for the deportation of members of organizations that are
not
designated as "foreign terrorist organizations;"
* effectively place in the hands of the Immigration and Naturalization
Service the power to decide which domestic organizations are "terrorist
organizations" the non-citizen members of which can be deported, because
the
bill fails to define "terrorist organization," or even limit "terrorist
organizations" to foreign organizations;
* make protected political speech that merely "encourages" another
individual or a terrorist organization to engage in terrorist activity
conduct for which a person may be deported or denied admission, even if
the
speech is uttered in circumstances that do not indicate the intention or
ability to cause harm;
* render inadmissible every alien who knows that another person
conducted an
act of terrorist activity if the alien fails to report the act to law
enforcement authorities, and even if the alien had nothing to do with
the
act. Read literally, it renders inadmissible virtually every alien
around
the world because they failed to report to law enforcement agencies that
Timothy McVeigh bombed a federal building in Oklahoma City, and would
render
inadmissible every alien who watches the news and thereby learns of the
next
act of terrorism, but fails to report it to the police.
H.R. 2184 is the third in a series of bills Rep. Andrews has introduced
that
would unconstitutionally infringe on the rights of non-citizens to
associate
with others. The first of these bills, H.R. 334, simply states that
aliens
who associate with "terrorists" are deportable. The second bill, H.R.
1745,
says the same thing, but attempts to equate association with a person
with
aiding and abetting terrorist activity. At May 18, 1999 hearings on H.R.
1745, this created concern both from the Clinton Administration and from
members of the Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims that the bill
could be
interpreted as requiring deportation based on mere association. H.R.
2184 is
consistent with its predecessors in that it unconstitutionally punishes
association in the form of membership in a group, instead of violent or
illegal conduct.
-----
Action requested by the ACLU:
The bill is tentatively scheduled to be marked up at the House
immigration
Subcommittee on Tues. June 22 or Thursday, June 24.
Please contact key members of the House Judiciary Committee Subcommittee
on
Immigration and urge them to oppose this legislation.
Jackson-Lee (D-TX); Staff = Leon Buck; phone 225-2329; fax 225-1845
Berman (D-CA); Staff = Aarti Kohli; phone 225-4695; fax 225-3196
Frank (D-MA); Staff = Ron Randhava; phone 225-5931; fax 225-0182
Lofgren (D-CA); Staff = Sue Ramanathan; phone 225-3072; fax 225-3336
Meehan (D-MA); Staff = Jeff Miller; phone 225-3411; fax 226-0771
Cannon (R-UT); Staff = Todd Thorpe; phone 225-7751; fax 225-5629
Goodlatte (R-VA); Staff = Shelley Hanger; phone 225-5431; fax 225-9681
Pease (R-IN); Staff = Joy Trimmer phone 225-5805; fax 225-5794
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Katim and list managers,
Ebrima wrote:
"Tombong, I am glad that you are now coming out publicly on this matter
instead of using a pen name. Some time ago, I checked the IP number for Ebou
Manneh and William Njie and I know exactly, who is writing under this false
names. I'll wait until Ndey Jobarteh rejoins this forum, then I can shed
light more on this. At least, when I write, I use my real names".
Katim, and to all list managers, I am lodging a complain against Ebrima
Ceesay based on the above statement and I demand that you investigate this
allegation and take the necessary action. I DO NOT USE PEN NAMES WHEN I
WRITE. WHY THE HELL DO I HAVE TO DO THAT? I demand an apology from Ebrima
Ceesay for he is tarnishing my image and damaging my character. Now that he
is cornered, he is attempting to distract our attentions from the issues at
hand by tarnishing my image.
PEACE
Tombong Saidy
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>Gambia L,
>
>I am doing something very urgent right now, but expect my reaction to
>Tombong's posting by tommorrow. Tombong, I'll make you to apologise to this
>forum, for misleading them. You said Essa Sey was never a deputy permanent.
>I couldn't believe this statement is coming from you.
>
>Essa was a deputy permanent Secretary at the Ministry of Defence. In fact,
>he was one of those who chaired the Guinea Bissau peace talks, held in the
>Gambia, some time ago. Gambia L members in the Gambia can check
>thisinformation and report the truth to this forum.
>
>As far as I know, it was Maodo Touray, not Essa Sey, who was posted to New
>York, to strengthen the Gambia's mission to the UN. Let's be honest and
>fair in our criticisms. This time, I got it right. Essa was indeed a deputy
>permanent Secretary at the Defence Ministry.
>
>Tombong, I am glad that you are now coming out publicly on this matter
>instead of using a pen name. Some time ago, I checked the IP numbers for
>Ebou Manneh and William Njie and I know exactly, who is writing under this
>false names. I'll wait until Ndey Jobarteh rejoins this forum, then I can
>shed light more light on this. At least, when I write, I use my real names.
>
>Anyway, Gambia L, expect my reaction tommorrow. This is an era of truth and
>clarity.
>
>Ebrima Ceesay,
>Birmingham, UK.
>
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Region: Continent-Wide
Issue Areas: +economy/development+
Summary Contents:
This posting contains a speech by UNAIDS Executive Director
Peter Piot to the May Meeting of African Ministers of
Finance and Ministers of Economic Development and Planning,
hosted by the Economic Commission for Africa. It also
contains a recent posting from the HIVNET forum on recent
protests by AIDS activists against U.S. Vice-President Gore,
for his involvement in U.S. pressures on South Africa over
policies on imports of AIDS drugs.
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[Debt Update: Eurodad, a coalition of European non-
governmental organizations, has produced a new series of
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Economic Commission for Africa
[For more information visit the ECA web site at
http://www.un.org/depts/eca]
Meeting of Ministers of Finance and Ministers of Economic
Development and Planning
Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, 7 May 1999
By Peter Piot, Executive Director, UNAIDS
On behalf of all cosponsoring organizations of UNAIDS, I
welcome the opportunity you have given me to speak about a
subject that concerns me very much in a continent where I have
strong ties of friendship and work, I am talking about AIDS.
It is encouraging to hear in this meeting that overall
economic growth rates are up in Africa over the past couple of
years - but a continuation of this improvement will be
seriously jeopardized by the AIDS epidemic. I feel that it is
no means an exaggeration to state that, along with armed
conflict, the AIDS epidemic has become the greatest threat to
development in much of sub-Saharan Africa.
In this presentation, I would like to raise four issues:
1. THE SITUATION TODAY
AIDS now affects every country in the world, but it is
sub-Saharan Africa that today is the most affected.
By one conservative estimate one-quarter of the population of
Africa, 150 million people, has been personally affected by
the epidemic. The nine most heavily affected countries in the
world are all in Africa.
Let me give you just five shocking figures:
a. At least 9 million Africans have already died of AIDS, and
AIDS is now the first cause of death - last year alone, 2
million died.
b. Over 22 million Africans are currently living with HIV or
AIDS.
c. There are almost 8 million African children under the age
of 14 who have lost their mother or both parents to the AIDS
epidemic. Today in many communities, there is not a family
that has not lost someone because of AIDS. ...
2. THE IMPACT OF AIDS IN AFRICA
Unfortunately, many in Africa and elsewhere still view AIDS
purely as a health problem - and of course it is a disease.
But in fact, it is much more than this. AIDS is at the heart
of the development agenda for Africa. Let me explain why.
First: impact on Households. Those who suffer the consequences
first are families. There is, of course, the emotional impact
of seeing a loved one die. At the same time families must cope
with significant economic loss.
For example, surveys show that one-third of rural households
affected by AIDS experienced a 50% reduction in agricultural
output.
Income loss like this leads to painful choices. Education can
become a luxury. One study, in Cote d'Ivoire, showed that in
families where someone had died of AIDS school expenditures
went down by half. That means that one-half of the children
left behind when someone dies of AIDS cannot realize their
full potential.
Second: impact on Economic Sectors. These cruel effects on
families are also cruel to countries' economies. As income
declines so does purchasing power. Unschooled children mean
growing social problems and a loss of competitiveness in a
global economy increasingly dependent on knowledge. Food that
is not grown must be imported or cuts down on that which can
be exported.
In Zimbabwe today half of the in-patients in hospitals are
there because of AIDS-related illness. Models show that by
2005, basic AIDS treatments costs will be over 60% of the
Ministry of Health Budget -- and this does not even include
the very expensive therapies used in high income countries.
Zimbabwe is not alone. In Kenya by 2005 AIDS treatment costs
will be over 50% of the Ministry's budget.
Studies show that in some countries, the military is two to
five times more likely to be infected by HIV than the general
population. What are the implications for national security?
Teachers are dying of AIDS - for example, one teacher a day in
Cote d'Ivoire, not even the most affected country. What are
the implications for the education of your youth and for the
future of your children? How will these teachers be replaced?
Third: impact on the Private Sector. Several recent studies in
Africa show that company profits decreased by up to 20 percent
as a direct result of AIDS.
What are some of those costs? HIV and AIDS absenteeism make up
52% of the costs. Recruitment and training of replacement
employees made up another 17%. Add to this the hidden impact
-- of children not educated because their parents have died
and therefore of a reduced pool of skilled labor to replace
those lost, and it is easy to see that the costs to the
economy will be high.
Projections for South Africa suggest that employee benefits,
as a percent of salary, will rise from seven percent to
nineteen percent by 2005 because of AIDS. These extra costs
and the loss of skilled labor have obvious implications for
the efforts to attract high-quality foreign investment.
Fourth and finally: macroeconomic Impact. While we are still
working to capture in our models the full effects of the AIDS
epidemic on macroeconomic performance, there is no doubt that
AIDS is having a significant negative impact in the most
severely affected African countries. The keynote paper
prepared for this meeting suggests that to meet the goal of
reducing poverty by half by the year 2015, Africa needs growth
rates of 7 percent per annum. The World Bank has
conservatively estimated that countries with high HIV
prevalence will lose one percent of GDP growth per capita
annually. The cumulative expected loss in Kenya, for example,
is expected to be 15% over the next decade. Broader measures
of human welfare, such as the UNDP's Human Development Index,
are also projected to decline dramatically in the Southern
Africa countries because of AIDS.
WHAT CAN BE DONE? THE ANSWERS LIE IN AFRICA
I do not want to leave you with the idea that nothing can be
done. I would not even be here if I did not believe we can
turn the tide of the epidemic. We are not powerless. Much can
be done, and some of the answers are already present within
Africa. We have growing evidence from at least two African
countries - Senegal and Uganda - that a combination of strong
political support, broad institutional participation, and
carefully selected program interventions can actually lead to
declines in the number of new HIV infections and improved care
for those who are ill.
This experience shows us that no amount of dollars can make a
difference if there is not concerted leadership, at all levels
from the head of state to the district level, involving
government, in partnership with non-governmental
organizations, communities, and the private sector. I see a
growing momentum of such political commitment in the region,
as evidenced by an increasing number of heads of state
speaking up.
There must be openness about the disease and how it is spread.
AIDS cannot remain "the disease with no name". People are
dying because of ignorance and because of the stigma,
humiliation, and fear of retribution that surrounds AIDS.
Let's not forget that people lose their job, are out of
school, are even killed - only because they have HIV.
We now have many of the essential tools for a successful
national AIDS programme - scaling up investing in what we know
that works.
One of the most important lessons is that national success in
the fight against HIV/AIDS depends on people like you --
Ministers of Finance and Planning - getting centrally and
personally involved. Allow me to suggest seven things I
believe we can do:
First, to speak out strongly and publicly about the threat
that HIV poses to your countries' futures. Such outspokenness
will help to mobilize political support and human and
financial resources in the struggle against AIDS, your voice
on HIV/AIDS will send a powerful message to others.
Second, to help to mobilize more resources for AIDS
prevention, treatment, and mitigation activities. A recent
study found that in 1997, only $150 million a year was spent
in African countries on AIDS prevention. We are currently
estimating that well over a billion dollars needs to be
devoted to AIDS programs in Africa now, if we are to come to
grips with the epidemic.
Where will such a sixfold increase in spending come from? It
will come in part from committing a larger share of domestic
public funds to AIDS. The study mentioned above found that
only a tenth of the reported spending on AIDS prevention in
Africa in 1997 came from governments, an average of $0.03 per
capita in the countries included in the study. If governments
increased their spending on AIDS activities to an average of
$0.35 per capita - less than one tenth of one percent of GDP.
Another source can come from redirecting to AIDS existing
project resources that are not currently going into fighting
the epidemic. There are billions of dollars programmed for
upcoming social funds, education and health projects,
infrastructure, and rural development, that could be channeled
into AIDS activities to support those sectors. This is fully
justified, as the AIDS epidemic is undermining the very goals
of these other investments.
Third, to shape the resources going to AIDS by indicating to
the bilateral and multilateral partners that this is a top
priority and a key element in successful development and
poverty alleviation. They need to hear this from you.
Unfortunately, these same partners are telling us that in
their programming discussions, many governments are indicating
that they assign AIDS a low priority.
Fourth, to also insist that all sector ministries plan and
budget for meaningful AIDS activities. Experience demonstrates
clearly that in successful national AIDS programs, education
ministries send powerful AIDS messages to pupils and teachers;
youth and sports ministries help organize AIDS clubs and
counseling centers; transport and construction ministries
mount prevent services aimed at truck drivers, migrant
construction workers, and others at highest risk of being
infected with HIV; the defense and interior ministries
actively offer testing and counseling services to those in the
armed forces; and so on.
Fifth, to assess impact of economic and social policies as
they may increase or decrease the societal vulnerability to
HIV.
Sixth, to bring in new partners - NGOs, religious, PWAs,
companies - yesterday, in South Africa, 100 million dollars
were initiated by the Secretary General of the UN.
Seventh and finally, you are uniquely placed to support the
development of a single, powerful national AIDS plan that
involves a wide range of government departments, NGOs, the
commercial sector, and the international development
community. Without this plan, the efforts of the many partners
against AIDS in your country will be fragmented, and their
impact in halting the epidemic will be lower.
The "bottom line" is that AIDS is a development challenge and
must be treated as one. It is as important than any of the
other challenges outlined in the keynote paper presented to
you for this meeting. And increasingly, we have the tools to
meet this challenge.
My last point:
INTERNATIONAL PARTNERSHIP AGAINST HIV/AIDS IN AFRICA
Acting upon a resolution of the OAU at its summit in
Ouagadougou last year, the debates at TICAD II in Tokyo, and
many bilateral discussions in recent months, UNAIDS and its
seven Cosponsors - the World Bank, UNICEF, WHO, UNESCO, UNDP,
UNFPA, and UNDCP - have recently come together in an
International Partnership against HIV/AIDS in Africa. All have
pledged to work harder, in a more coordinated fashion, with
each other and with you, to combat AIDS in Africa.
The vision of such a Partnership would be to ensure that
within the next five years, the majority of African countries
are implementing large-scale AIDS programs that reduce
dramatically the number of new infections, provide care for
those already infected, and help to mitigate the impact of the
epidemic on individuals, families, communities and nations as
a whole.
What are the key features of such a partnership? (1) actions
to raise high level political support for intensified national
AIDS programs; (2) develop strong national action plans; (3)
mobilize greatly increased financial resources for these
plans; and (4) develop strong country-based and regional
technical platforms to assist program design and
implementation.
To be effective, such an international partnership against
HIV/AIDS needs to go beyond African governments and UN
agencies, to include the NGOs, the private sector, and the
international donor community.
Much work needs to be done in the coming months to further
develop the partnership and the ownership. But without strong
action on the part of everybody in this room, the partnership
cannot succeed. As the paper prepared for this meeting says,
it is you who must set the agenda for African development. And
that agenda must prominently include AIDS.
International development organizations have told us that
they, too are ready to be part of the Partnership against
HIV/AIDS in Africa.
I am not standing here today to make promises about what we
can achieve in fighting the terrible AIDS epidemic.
What I am committing today is to working with you as key
partners against HIV/AIDS. Mr Chairperson, Ladies and
Gentlemen, AIDS is not just another new problem that the
world, including Africa, is facing. It is severely undermining
development, with millions of lives in the balance. It is
becoming a true "development emergency" for Africa. The time
for action to confront this emergency is now. AIDS must become
everybody's business. We need a broad coalition if we are to
succeed. We are ready to join this coalition with you. Let us
begin immediately so we can win this fight.
Thank you.
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To read previous postings from the forum visit:
http://www.hivnet.ch:8000/treatment-access/tdm
Hivnet also hosts other forums on HIV/AIDS, including AF-AIDS
(http://www.hivnet.ch:8000/af-aids/tdm).
For an extended background article on the issue, see John B.
Judis, K St. Gore, in The American Prospect for July-August
1999 (http://epn.org/prospect/45/45judis.html).
GORE STUMPING DISRUPTED FOR SECOND TIME
AIDS Activists confront VP on African drug policy Thursday
June 17, 1999 , Manchester NH
AIDS activists took over Vice President Al Gore's second
campaign stop this morning in Manchester, New Hampshire. The
activists were protesting Gore's instrumental role in
preventing AIDS medications from reaching people in developing
countries, including South Africa and Thailand.
Five protesters, organized by the local chapter of AIDS Drugs
for Africa, disrupted Gore's campaign speech with noisemakers,
chants and banners reading "GORE'S GREED KILLS: AFRICA NEEDS
AIDS DRUGS." They were seated directly behind Gore in the
audience of 300 in the Hesser College Gym.
"After our protest, Gore said AIDS drugs for Africa are very
important. Yet, he is personally standing in the way of cheap,
life-saving treatment for Africans with HIV", said Moshe
Mizrahi, a protester. "I guess Gore does have strong family
values after all; he has family ties to the pharmaceutical
lobby and he's killing people on their behalf."
Gore's domestic policy advisor, David Beier, is the former
head lobbyist for Genetech, a major U.S. pharmaceutical
company. Tony Podesta, top Gore advisor and brother of
Clinton's chief of staff, is currently the contracted lobbyist
for PhARMA (Pharmaceutical Manufacturer's Association) and
most other U.S. drug interests. Tom Downey, close Gore
associate and former congressman, lobbies for Merck
pharmaceuticals. Gore fundraiser Peter Knight is a former
Schering-Plough lobbyist.
Gore has vehemently opposed the practice of "compulsory
licensing", which allows local companies to produce cheap,
generic AIDS drugs. He has threatened sanctions against the
South African government unless President Thabo Mbeki calls a
halt to generic drug production. Compulsory licensing is legal
under current international trade agreements, and provides
royalties to patent owners. AIDS medications would be
available at 10% of their American price.
Currently, 22.5 million Africans are HIV-positive, including
up to 26% of young adults, and totaling 67% of the world's
HIV+ population. Virtually all are poor and unable to afford
treatment at American prices. Most AIDS deaths in developing
countries result from lack of access to drugs for treatable
infections. Average income in South Africa is $2,600/year, and
name-brand AIDS drugs cost around $12,000/year.
Pharmaceutical companies based in the U.S., long under attack
for price-gouging at the expense of human lives, have claimed
that the high cost of treatment reflects their production
expenses. These companies stand to lose credibility as generic
drug licensing exposes the true low cost of AIDS drug
production; which may prevent them from continuing to
drastically overcharge in first-world markets.
"Gore's abuse of power is a campaign issue," said Anna
Janssen, a local AIDS activist. "He's taken a position, for
the sake of earning points with lobbyists, that absolutely
guarantees millions of deaths. Now he wants us to place our
fate in his hands as President. Personally, I don't dare."
Local chapters of AIDS Drugs For Africa have vowed to confront
Gore at every campaign stop.
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Hello,
Ebrima ceesay wrote;'i have handled polemical situations which were more
complicated than this one', however i do not think there is anything
complicated with the issues we are dealing with right now and only the truth
will prevail.
I wonder how many people you are gonna end up apologising to before this
'complicated polemical situation' is brought to an end. You just need to
once and for all come out clear and put this matter to rest.
God Bless and Peace Be Upon All
Alasana Bah
>From: TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: Expect my reaction to Tombong
>Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 19:58:05 PDT
>
>Katim and list managers,
>
>Ebrima wrote:
>
>"Tombong, I am glad that you are now coming out publicly on this matter
>instead of using a pen name. Some time ago, I checked the IP number for
>Ebou
>Manneh and William Njie and I know exactly, who is writing under this false
>names. I'll wait until Ndey Jobarteh rejoins this forum, then I can shed
>light more on this. At least, when I write, I use my real names".
>
>Katim, and to all list managers, I am lodging a complain against Ebrima
>Ceesay based on the above statement and I demand that you investigate this
>allegation and take the necessary action. I DO NOT USE PEN NAMES WHEN I
>WRITE. WHY THE HELL DO I HAVE TO DO THAT? I demand an apology from Ebrima
>Ceesay for he is tarnishing my image and damaging my character. Now that he
>is cornered, he is attempting to distract our attentions from the issues at
>hand by tarnishing my image.
>
>PEACE
>
>Tombong Saidy
>
>
>
>>From: ebrima ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
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>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Expect my reaction to Tombong
>>Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 03:44:12 PDT
>>
>>Gambia L,
>>
>>I am doing something very urgent right now, but expect my reaction to
>>Tombong's posting by tommorrow. Tombong, I'll make you to apologise to
>>this
>>forum, for misleading them. You said Essa Sey was never a deputy
>>permanent.
>>I couldn't believe this statement is coming from you.
>>
>>Essa was a deputy permanent Secretary at the Ministry of Defence. In fact,
>>he was one of those who chaired the Guinea Bissau peace talks, held in the
>>Gambia, some time ago. Gambia L members in the Gambia can check
>>thisinformation and report the truth to this forum.
>>
>>As far as I know, it was Maodo Touray, not Essa Sey, who was posted to New
>>York, to strengthen the Gambia's mission to the UN. Let's be honest and
>>fair in our criticisms. This time, I got it right. Essa was indeed a
>>deputy
>>permanent Secretary at the Defence Ministry.
>>
>>Tombong, I am glad that you are now coming out publicly on this matter
>>instead of using a pen name. Some time ago, I checked the IP numbers for
>>Ebou Manneh and William Njie and I know exactly, who is writing under this
>>false names. I'll wait until Ndey Jobarteh rejoins this forum, then I can
>>shed light more light on this. At least, when I write, I use my real
>>names.
>>
>>Anyway, Gambia L, expect my reaction tommorrow. This is an era of truth
>>and
>>clarity.
>>
>>Ebrima Ceesay,
>>Birmingham, UK.
>>
>>
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Ebrima,
Having been involved in the Bissau peace talks as a reporter for the
Television,i think I should clarify this issue of Essa Sey participating in
the peace talks.Essa was not in the country then,maybe you are confusing the
Two Essas.We have Essa Sey who is (was)on the Gambia's permanent mission to
the UN and Essa Khan who is the deputy permanent secretary at the department
of state for defence.
It was Dr Sidate jobe,Willy joof,Fatou jallow permanent secretary foreign
affairs,Pa jallow permanent secretary defence,Army chief of staff Babucarr
Jatta,President Jammeh,and Essa Khan deputy permanent secretary defence,not
Essa Sey.
I'm just trying to Clarify issues Thanks.
Fatou Harona Drammeh.
>From: Paousman jarju <[log in to unmask]>
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>Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:10:28 PDT
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>Ebrima,
>
>I think you should accept the fact that Ambassadors are political
>appointees. Secondly, experience is a complement to competence and skills.
>Though young, Essa might prove to be more competent and skilldul in
>executing his duties than you might think.
>
>Please don't challenge Tombong on this issue.Essa Sey has never been Deputy
>Permanent Secretary for Defence. Essa Khan is the Deputy Permanent
>Secretary
>at the Department of State for Defence.
>Since we are all liable to make mistakes,I would urge you to accept the
>fact
>that your "reliable source" gave you some wrong information about Essa Sey.
>It is therefore prudent that you double check your information(s) before
>sending them to the Bantaba.
>
>God bless all Peace Loving Gambians.
>
>Pa Ousman Jarju
>
>
>>From: Hamadi Banna <[log in to unmask]>
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>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: Expect my reaction to Tombong
>>Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:05:57 PDT
>>
>>Ebrima:
>>
>>I'm not sure whether you and Tombong are talking about the same Essa Sey.
>>But, if it is the same Essa Sey once a gendarme and who later worked at
>>the
>>Ministry of External Affairs, he was definitely at the Gambia Mission to
>>the
>>UN in New York. I went to the office to obtain some info and bumped into
>>Essa Sey. I later had about 20 minuntes discussion with him on literary
>>issues such as poetry and short-story writing. Unless if I had been
>>day-dreaming! BTW, the tel# for the Mission is (212)949-6640.
>>
>>If Essa had been a Deputy Perm-Sec. then he must have been shuttling
>>between
>>New York and Banjul throughout the Bissau talks, a ridiculous venture that
>>no government would like to take up even the APRC.
>>
>>I just thought that I should clarify that particular point.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: ebrima ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
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>>>Subject: Expect my reaction to Tombong
>>>Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 03:44:12 PDT
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>>>Gambia L,
>>>
>>>I am doing something very urgent right now, but expect my reaction to
>>>Tombong's posting by tommorrow. Tombong, I'll make you to apologise to
>>>this
>>>forum, for misleading them. You said Essa Sey was never a deputy
>>>permanent.
>>>I couldn't believe this statement is coming from you.
>>>
>>>Essa was a deputy permanent Secretary at the Ministry of Defence. In
>>>fact,
>>>he was one of those who chaired the Guinea Bissau peace talks, held in
>>>the
>>>Gambia, some time ago. Gambia L members in the Gambia can check
>>>thisinformation and report the truth to this forum.
>>>
>>>As far as I know, it was Maodo Touray, not Essa Sey, who was posted to
>>>New
>>>York, to strengthen the Gambia's mission to the UN. Let's be honest and
>>>fair in our criticisms. This time, I got it right. Essa was indeed a
>>>deputy
>>>permanent Secretary at the Defence Ministry.
>>>
>>>Tombong, I am glad that you are now coming out publicly on this matter
>>>instead of using a pen name. Some time ago, I checked the IP numbers for
>>>Ebou Manneh and William Njie and I know exactly, who is writing under
>>>this
>>>false names. I'll wait until Ndey Jobarteh rejoins this forum, then I can
>>>shed light more light on this. At least, when I write, I use my real
>>>names.
>>>
>>>Anyway, Gambia L, expect my reaction tommorrow. This is an era of truth
>>>and
>>>clarity.
>>>
>>>Ebrima Ceesay,
>>>Birmingham, UK.
>>>
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 04:41:26 -0500
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Malafy,
In your rebuttal of Ebrima Ceesay's piece you mentioned the following:
"If infact your source is a top government employee, then
>> that goes to show that some, if not all of the officials who served =
during
>> the former regime should be uncovered and sacked immediately, =
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>> they clearly do not have the country at heart. I am sure we still =
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>> some bad apples within the system and if President Jammeh will ever =
read
>> this piece, to take a second look at all of the old cronies."
Are you serious about this statement? Do you think this will be to the =
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Clarify please.
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HI EBRIMA,
FROM WHAT I GATHER, YOU HAVE MADE QUITE A MISTAKE. YOU HAVE BEEN
CONFUSING ESSA KHAN DPS AT THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE FOR DEFENCE AND ESSA SEY
OF THE THE GAMBIA'S MISSION TO THE UN.WELL IT'S ALRIGHT ANYONE COULD HAVE
MADE THAT MISTAKE.
ANOTHER POINT OF RECTIFICATION, WILLIAM NJIE LIVES IN WASHINGTON DC AND
WORKS FOR CONGRESS. I HAPPEN TO KNOW HIM,AND I AM SURE OTHER LIST MEMBERS
KNOW HIM TOO. I DO NOT KNOW WHO EBOU MANNEH IS,BUT I CERTAINLY KNOW HE IS
NOT TOMBONG. MAYBE HE WILL PROVE WHO HE IS.
YOU KNOW TOMBONG IS NOT USING A PEN NAME, MR CEESAY, SO PLEASE DO NOT START
THAT. TOMBONG HAS BEEN ON THE L FOR ALMOST 4 YEARS AND HAS NEVER HAD A
REASON TO COVER UP HIS IDENTITY. I HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT TOMBONG BELIEVES IN
WHATEVER HE WRITES OR SAYS, HE ALSO HAPPENS TO GET THE FACTS BEFORE HE
LEAPS. I GUESS EVEN THOUGH HE IS NOT A JOURNALIST, WORKING WITH THE MEDIA
HAS TAUGHT HIM THAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO GET THE FACTS BEFORE GIVING
INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC. THEY DON'T DESERVE TO BE MISINFORMED.
NO HARD FEELINGS AND GOOD LUCK.
FATOU DIBBA- SAIDY
{THIS IS NO PEN NAME EITHER}
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>Gambia L,
>
>I am doing something very urgent right now, but expect my reaction to
>Tombong's posting by tommorrow. Tombong, I'll make you to apologise to this
>forum, for misleading them. You said Essa Sey was never a deputy permanent.
>I couldn't believe this statement is coming from you.
>
>Essa was a deputy permanent Secretary at the Ministry of Defence. In fact,
>he was one of those who chaired the Guinea Bissau peace talks, held in the
>Gambia, some time ago. Gambia L members in the Gambia can check
>thisinformation and report the truth to this forum.
>
>As far as I know, it was Maodo Touray, not Essa Sey, who was posted to New
>York, to strengthen the Gambia's mission to the UN. Let's be honest and
>fair in our criticisms. This time, I got it right. Essa was indeed a deputy
>permanent Secretary at the Defence Ministry.
>
>Tombong, I am glad that you are now coming out publicly on this matter
>instead of using a pen name. Some time ago, I checked the IP numbers for
>Ebou Manneh and William Njie and I know exactly, who is writing under this
>false names. I'll wait until Ndey Jobarteh rejoins this forum, then I can
>shed light more light on this. At least, when I write, I use my real names.
>
>Anyway, Gambia L, expect my reaction tommorrow. This is an era of truth and
>clarity.
>
>Ebrima Ceesay,
>Birmingham, UK.
>
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EBRIMA,
GLAD TO SEE YOU HAVE REALISED YOUR MISTAKE AND HAVE APOLOGISED.
THAT'S GREAT!
FATOU D SAIDY
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>William Njie,
>
>My apologies to you, and I hope you'll forgive me for the error. I should
>have waited until Alan Mboge, or Ndey Jobarteh, rejoins the list before
>raising this matter.
>
>I am confusing things here. I now remember very well, it was Ebou Manneh's
>IP number and that of Finna Ceesay that were checked, just out of
>curiosity.
>
>As for you, Finna, I am not doubting your existence at all. Your IP number
>was only checked, because of curiosity, in the wake of some of the things
>you were saying about Tombong.
>
>As for the Ebou Manneh postings, I know where they do come from, and I'll
>shed light on the matter, at the appropriate time.
>
>Meanwhile, I am urging Gambia L subscribers to wait until they read my
>reaction, before forming a judgement. I have handled polemical situations
>which were far more complicated than this one.
>
>As long as there are no insults or disrespect, I am ready for an
>enlightening debate.
>
>Finally, I repeat my apology to William Njie, and I hope he forgives me for
>the mistake.
>
>Ebrima Ceesay,
>Birmingham, UK.
>
>PS: Gambia L, just to say that I have not forgotten that I should give you
>an update on the proposed directory of Gambian "professionals". I couldn't
>believe the positive feed backs I am getting privately, from Gambians and
>friends of the Gambia all over the world.
>
>When I thought about the idea of publishing a directory, I just wanted to
>do
>something small; a reference book I can even finish within four months
>period.
>
>But, right now, private individuals and even donor agencies/Foundations
>have
>been contacting me, pledging moral, material and financial support, so that
>the project can get off the ground.
>
>Although, I must add that the kind of "Master Directory" these people are
>suggesting, and ready to finance, will take at least one year. But the good
>thing is that it can be done.
>
>This directory is "long over due", commented many.
>
>Anyway, I am very grateful to the L, because it was the forum where the
>issue was first raised. I'll be very transparent with the whole thing. I'll
>tell those pledging financial/material support for the project, to do
>everything through the L, or they should forget it. I cannot accuse Mr
>Jammeh of not being transparent and accountable, when I am also guilty of
>the same offence.
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Gambia L,
National issues are surely important things to deal with. But the issue of
appointment of the new Ambassadors is creating a lot of unecessary verbal
confrontation. Ofcourse, opinions are indispensable features of a democratic
society, but they should be within the bowels of objectivity and sanity.
I must admit that I am utterly disappointed with Ebrima Ceeesay, who is
apparently an experienced journalist. But if his latest comments on Gambia-l
are anything to go by, he needs to really get back to his notes on
journalism.
Ebrima intimated in his piece on the Ambassadors that Essa Sey is not
experienced enough to be in France.Personally, I've known Essa for twenty
years and I can conveniently say that he is a mature, responsible,competent
and objective fellow who has served his country in various domains.He was a
soldier with the confederal army for years before finally calling it a quit
and going ahead with studies. This took him to France, where he excelled as
a student and was later to be posted there as Deputy Ambassador.He had
earlier had a remarkable stint with the foreign ministry before the army
took over.
Essa Sey was never a Deputy Permanent Secretary as Ebrima Ceesay erroneously
reported. Rather it is Essa Khan who is the DPS at Defence and infact
happens to come from the same home town as Essa Sey(KUNTAYA) Mr Sey, who is
an erudite poet and accomplish diplomat is currently posted at the Gambia's
permanent mission in New York.What other qualifications should Mr Sey
possess besides his excellent academic records, honest values and love for
his country?
After all what does the Gambia get from France besides dubious aid packages
with strings attached. Or should we apply for assimilation?
Ebrima, please be objective and do not bore and confuse Gambia-L with loose
facts and myopic sources, who are bent to cannibalise the Gambian society.
Although Tombong is usually a Government mouthpiece, his response was more
than adequate.
Abou Jeng
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Tombong, Malafy,
I read your postings to the L, very carefully, and I must thank you for the
lectures. Indeed, I did find both of your postings very momentous and
instructive and, in fact, you should tell me how much I should pay for the
lectures next time you write. (laughs!)
Anyway, in my view, this ongoing debate about our country, especially on the
eve of the new millennium, is very necessary, so that with all the different
ideas being poured out, we might finally work out the correct BLUE PRINT for
the future of our Nation.
It is, therefore, in the interest of our country, to encourage more of these
debates, although I must be quick to add that, in order to reap some
benefits from these discussions, we have to ensure that we debate with
maturity, with sincerity, with clarity, with truth, with fairness, and with
respect.
One must always be honest, conscientious and honourable enough, to give
credit where it is due. In short, one must always be ingenuous and equitable
enough, to withdraw a position, or a statement, if the person you are
debating with, has come up with far more credible, more convincing, and more
persuasive arguments.
In this regard, we should never let our emotions overshadow or colour our
objectivity and fairness. Politically, all of us have our loyalty somewhere,
but that doesn't mean we should be fanatical with our leaders, or make
ourselves blind followers, or opportunists.
We should always always make sure that our actions are guided by good
reasoning, truth, objectivity and fairness. It is my view that if Africa is
to make a headway, as the new millennium draws nearer, we must discard the
habit of seeing our leaders as demi gods.
Our leaders should be seen as our employees, who should be fired, if they
persisted in doing wrong or bad, but retained if they were delivering the
goods.
Now, let me attempt to address some of the issues raised by Malafy and
Tombong Saidy. But, before addressing these issues, I'll share with you an
information, which some of you might find interesting, so that, hopefully,
you can understand Tombong better.
Most of us already know that Tombong was invited by Jammeh, to join the then
AFPRC, after he, Tombong, "humiliated" deposed President Jawara, during a
press conference in Washington DC.
Now, for historical purposes, I'll share with you what happened behind the
scenes, so that you can judge for yourselves, whether Mr Saidy is a man of
principles or not, or whether he can cope with real pressures or not, in
times of difficulties.
The Daily Observer correspondent in Washington DC, Fatou Jaw Manneh, was at
the press conference and, after the conference, she faxed me the story,
which I edited, gave it a headline and we carried in the front page of the
Observer, as our lead story.
The story became the talk of Banjul that day, and, of course, the then
members of the Ruling Council, led by Mr Jammeh, were very impressed with
Tombong's stance at the press conference.
But not knowing that the Jammeh government had a job ready for him, and
apparently being under reported "pressures" from many quarters, for having
"humiliated" ex-president Jawara, Tombong confronted Fatou Jaw Manneh, as
soon as the Observer was out, denying to Fatou that he had said what was
quoted in the Observer story.
Fatou Jaw contacted me, asking me the possibility of putting a retraction in
the Observer, because Tombong was denying to her, having said what was
reported in the Observer.
At Fatou's request, I drafted a retraction/apology, which I was going to put
in the Observer, to the effect that Tombong had denied what was attributed
to him, in the Observer. I forgot exactly what and what he was denying in
the story.
But, fortunately for him, our reporter contacted me again, at the right
time, before we went to press, saying that Tombong did not want any
retraction any more, because he was offered a job by the Government at our
Washington DC Embassy, as a result of the story. You can therefore see how
some people can be so opportunistic or can lack principles.
Tombong, if you want you can deny this, but Gambia L members are also to
contact Fatou Jaw, for confirmation or denial of my statements.
Now coming back to the main issue. I agree that I got wrong again, with
regard to Dr Saja Taal, and I apologise to the list for the misinformation.
But I have to remind some of the list members, who are very hard in their
criticisms, which I welcome in good faith, that the easiest thing to do, is
to criticise people's works/writings, which is fine, because whoever writes
must expect to be criticised, either rightly or wrongfully. The difficult
thing, surely, is to come up with ideas, especially solid ones and put them
before the publicly, for scrutiny.
Anyway, I must say with regard to the Dr Saja Taal issue, the misinformation
was my fault, not my source, if I have to be fair to him. My source was
stressing the need for continuity in a post one was doing well, citing the
fact that Dr Taal was again "replaced" at the Ministry of Education, when he
was already doing a good job there. I wrongly took the word "replace" to
mean dismissal.
Again, I apologise to the L, for the misinformation and, Tombong, I thank
you in good faith, for the clarification. I'll take your wise advise to be
more careful in the future.
But, of course, even the Western Media, with all their facilities and
prowess, do retract stories, from time to time, owing to misinformation. I
am sure even Gambia TV, which you head, does make mistakes, from time to
time.
I am glad, however, that Mr Saidy didn't say I was wrong in saying that
Maodo Touray and Essa Sey were to be appointed ambassadors. Tombong, you
might have known about these appointments, because you are a government
insider, but, please, be fair here: don't give the impression that this was
"a stale news" within the media in the Gambia, when either the private media
or government media had reported it.
The government media might wait for the "agreement", but if the private
media knew about this story, they would have, of course, published it by
now.
Tombong, I, myself, didn't give any reasons for Njogou Bah's withdrawal from
France, as insinuated by you. I quoted a source, which is permissible in
journalism, who narrated what reportedly happened in Paris.
Mr Saidy, I do not know why Ismaila Ceesay had been recalled, neither do I
claim to know why Mr Grey-Johnson had been recalled. But I know, for a fact,
despite what you are saying to the contrary, that Njogou's withdrawal from
Paris had do with his wife's alleged, and I repeat, alleged hostility
towards their maid.
Whether Njogou's wife was hostile to the Embassy staff or not, I do not have
a clue. But it is also a fact that Mrs Bah was reported to the government by
her maid, for alleged hostility.
I admire Njogou as a diplomat, and also as a French/English/French
interpreter, and I would be the last person to put him and his family in
trouble with authorities in Banjul.
Again, some people should not get me wrong, for I am not saying that Mr
Jammeh should not have appointed Essa Sey as ambassador. That's is Jammeh's
prerogative. I had said that if I, Ebrima Ceesay, were to appoint someone as
an ambassador in Paris, it would be based on merit, service, experience
tactfulness, qualifications and, of course, loyalty.
For me, it is not a question of speaking "Fluent French". I speak French
myself. Language can be studied and mastered by anyone. The Gambia's High
commissioner to the UK, John Bojang, has a very good command of the English
Language and, on top of that, he is an orator, who can speak off the cuff,
for hours.
But, in my view, he is not a tactful person or a good diplomat, otherwise he
would not have said that "Slavery was not a curse...it was, in fact, good
for the black people."...
Again, as I said before, I have my reservation about Essa Sey's appointment,
but I am not going to belabour the point. In fact, it is very unfortunate
that the issue has been dragged to this level. My Sey, if you find my
comments upsetting or painful, then my sincerely apologies to you.
But you do know that I am very "controversial" in nature, and I don't
hesitate to speak my mind on issues, regardless of who is involved. Is this
not more honourable than back biting you?
Malafy, I didn't say I am "closed to Essa's wife, or family". I said his
wife was a relative. I haven't seen Essa for a long time. By way, I didn't
even know he was in New York. But he used to call me "GORO" (an in law),
because his wife was brought up by Momat Adam Ceesay, formerly of
Cooperative Union, who is a dad to me.
It is unfortunate that I am also forced to drag Momat's name into this, and
I hope he, too, forgives me. Anyway, Fatou Camara, thanks for your
clarications with regard to Essa Khan. By the way, when are you coming back
to Birmingham to visit? I must say that all of the crew in Birmingham do
miss your good sense of humour.
Malafy, let me tell you that the reason why I avoid contacting many in
family is because I do not want to put anyone in trouble, given my well
known opposition to the Jammeh regime. Even my uncle, Ndondi, said on this
forum, that he didn't hear from me, since I left the Gambia.
Also Mr Jarju, I don't mind you calling me a "political refugee", but for
the records, I need to tell you, and you checked this information, that I
came to the UK, because I was given a two-year study leave with salary, by
the Observer, in November 1996, to do an M Phil at the University of
Birmingham.
In fact, the Observer had carried an editorial, in December 1996, clarifying
that I was in the UK, because I was given two years study leave with salary.
So I didn't run away from the Gambia, or no one had forced me to leave.
Technically, I could go to the Gambia, even today.
In fact, I should have returned home by now, but I decided to stay here, for
the time being, because I got married, I am still studying and also I was
working very hard, on a book, on the Gambian Coup, of course, not realising
that it was one thing to have your manuscript ready, but another thing to
find a publishers interested in your material. But with Sandra's help and
contacts, it would be finally published.
Anyway, Malafy, people are right to say I am in exile in England, but it is
a self-imposed one. Mr Jammeh himself knows that whenever I am ready with
what I am doing here, I'll return home, and they better be prepared for my
comeback.
Hey, the last thing I would do would be to abandon my politics for justice,
fair play and freedom. Call me a politician or a journalist, but that would
stop me from speaking my mind.
Tombong, of course, it is an open secret that I announced over the BBC in
June 1996, before the ban on party politics was lifted in the Gambia, that I
was going to contest the September 1996 presidential elections, if Jammeh
ran.
Tombong, I had to publicly renounce my candidature, not because I feared I
wouldn't make it, as alleged by you. This is far from the truth. I renounced
my candidature, because of family pressures and the fact that I didn't want
to be used by any Western Country.
Once some diplomats friends of mine became involved and started raising the
necessary funds for the campaign, I became very uncomfortable with the whole
thing, because I didn't want to be no one's puppet. Also, mentally, I didn't
think I was ready for the task ahead.
But I wouldn't hesitate to repeat, on this forum, that if Mr Jammeh and co
were to remain in power, it shouldn't surprise you if I form a political
party.
Anyway, I'll have to continue this write up one of these days, because my
fingers are paining me.
Ebrima Ceesay,
Birmingham, UK.
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Tombong Saidy,
I hereby apologise unreservedly for saying, or insinuating, that you were
William Njie and Ebou Manneh.
F Dibba, thanks for your input, especially the clarification regarding Essa
Khan, and I hope you, too, have accepted the apology. I know how Sandra
feels anything time I am taken to task. Anyway, my warmest regards to you
and your dad.
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Jabou, you wrote:
>>Tombong,
The "good things" are clouded over by those who have died and no =
explanations
have been given or investigations pursued, by those who are abducted in =
the
middle of the night and it is simply said "they are not in our custody",
those in positions of responsibility but who nevertheless display
lawlessness in public and can get away with it, those who harass and =
muzzle
the voice of the free press in various and sundry forms. l guess the =
"good
things" are killing our country slowly but surely. That's what's known =
as
"loving us to death". It is akin to someone murdering your family =
members one
by one, but at the same time showering you with gifts so you can believe =
they
are just the best thing that ever happened to you.However, it is =
apparent
that some of us are not bothered in the least bit by these atrocities, =
so
long as they are a part of the false sense of power.But the saddest =
part of
it all, is that those who commit these atrocoties not only take =
themselves
seriously and call this good governance, but they expect the rest of us =
to
follow suit in this simple minded belief.<<
Very well said. Silence in the face of injustice is tantamount to =
collaboration!
Thank You.
A. Kabir Njie.
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Jabou Joh,
Thanks for a very concise, but thoughtful commentary. I was indeed very
impressed. Keep it up! I am so proud of you. Amadou Kabirr Njie, welcome
back and what a good start! You should keep up the good work down there, as
Basirou Dodou Drammeh would often say.
Buhari Gassama, where are you? Long time, Bro.
Ebrima Ceesay,
Birmingham, UK.
>Tombong,
>
>The "good things" are clouded over by those who have died and no
>explanations
>have been given or investigations pursued, by those who are abducted in
>the
>middle of the night and it is simply said "they are not in our custody",
>those in positions of responsibility but who nevertheless display
>lawlessness in public and can get away with it, those who harass and muzzle
>the voice of the free press in various and sundry forms. l guess the "good
>things" are killing our country slowly but surely. That's what's known as
>"loving us to death". It is akin to someone murdering your family members
>one
>by one, but at the same time showering you with gifts so you can believe
>they
>are just the best thing that ever happened to you.However, it is apparent
>that some of us are not bothered in the least bit by these atrocities, so
>long as they are a part of the false sense of power.But the saddest part
>of
>it all, is that those who commit these atrocoties not only take themselves
>seriously and call this good governance, but they expect the rest of us to
>follow suit in this simple minded belief.
>
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Who has the qualifying results from the different groups of the African
nations cup ?. Which teams went on from the different groups ? One of you
put the groups and the playing schedule on Gambia- L last august, and
according to that schedule the qualification ends today.
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Ebrima,
What we are criticising is not your writing or your style of writing, but
the facts contained in your writing. You have been found on several
occasions to be bending the truth. How long can you continue apologising for
misinforming us?
I would urge William Njie, Ous Bojang, Latjor and those in the DC area to
contact Fatou Jaw Manneh to verify Ebrima's allegation and report to the
list. You have to stop the futile attempt of trying to distract us from
concentrating on the issue at hand. I will not follow you through this
slippery slope of personal attacks. It is your credibility, which is at
stake here and not mine. You have been caught over and over being very
economical with the truth.
Let's move on and talk about other issues. As far as I am concerned, this is
over.
PEACE
Tombong Saidy
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Mr Ebrima Ceesay:
You are right most of the time, but this time you got it wrong, and
vaccilating and throwing of more mud at people does put you in a less that
geniune posture.Also, remember that it should never be about you.
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Tombong,
what a piece of advice to Ebrima Ceesay. Keep-up the faith. Never give up.
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I would like to wish Malanding, Abdoulie Jallow and all the fathers out
there a very happy father's day. Hey Abdoulie where have you been. I missed
reading your postings on the L.
God Bless and Peace Be Upon All
Alasana Bah.
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Hey everybody,
Am at home now just trying to re-orient myself. I was completely black ou=
t in
Ghana due to problems with netscape. So, for that reasons i have to go th=
rough
bunchs of mail.
I will also prepare my Top Ten List after doing my evaluations.
THe STruggle Continues!!!!
Ndey Jobarteh
saiks samateh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Sidibeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Dear Sidibeh,
Your points are well noted.What came immediately in mind is what I believ=
ed
you wanted to say but did no say it very clear,correct me if I am wrong.A=
nd
that is the democratic rights that was fought for and won under the new
colonial PPP regime is not only been rolled back but that the situation i=
s
getting worst.This is what I was saying from day one of the coup that thi=
s is
how the situation very likely will develop.Now we do not only have the
paramilitary,the case of Sygnle is new,remember the case of Donkey Sillah=
was
of not such a character.NIA is more aggressive now than the days of
neo-colonial PPP regime.The democratic process that was on before the cou=
p is
being halted,without us getting this clear in our heads many miscalculati=
ons
will be done,it must not take us another 30 years to start registering
victories.
for freedom
Saiks
Saiks,
Thanks a lot for an important piece. Indeed Koro Ceesay's death was a
tremendous loss to the country and most of us who had had the privilege o=
f
knowing him, would continue to miss him dearly.
Politically, I think, looking at it broadly, KC's loss is a reflection of=
the now archaic disunity of the Gambian Left generally, and the linelessn=
ess
and peculiar ideological vaccilations of MOJA militants, specifically. Ma=
ny
comrades seemed to have substituted the military for the working class; a=
nd
consequently the revolutionary programme of the AFPRC was believed to be =
a
feasible liberationist agenda.
When, as you wrote, we finally know "how" KC died, we would be in a posit=
ion
to discern clearly the forces that enhanced the adoption of reformist
tendencies as opposed to the path toward revolutionary politics.
Your piece is very timely in that we are at this very moment, witnessing =
the
swift erosion of those rights and freedoms that the July 22 takeover is
supposed not only to guarantee, but the DEFEND!
TO Ndey and Yourself,
The Struggle Continues - For Freedom!
Momodou S. Sidibeh
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Saikss,
This is well said, I believe we need to re-define who is a revolutionary =
as
well as we are still trying to define a leader and what leadership meant =
to us
as Africans and Gambians.
What we have now is a leadership but "statemanship."
I believe i will catch up with you guys
The Struggle Continues!!!
Ndey Jobarteh
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Dear Kabir,
I only hope that Mafy will reply !I just want to wait until then.He will =
not
only hear from me that a revolutionary leader need not build a Mosque at =
a
state ground that belongs to the people for his private use,it is only ty=
rants
that tells their people to short their mouths or go six feet deep and not=
revolutionary leaders.
For Freedom
Saiks
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Malafy "Mafy" Jarju Wrote among things:
>>What your impeccable sources failed to tell you is that Essa is not onl=
y
adequately qualified
>>for such a position but also a loyal ally of the revolution who served
>>in the Gambian armed forces along with His Excellency the President.
What revolution are you talking about? Do you call what is happening in T=
he
Gambia right now a revolution?!? Please clarify.
You also wrote:
>>Democracy is in the Gambia to stay and even refugees have the right to=
criticize policy or >>policy makers.
Syngle Nyassi is yet to realise that!!!
A. Kabir Njie.
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Alasana,
Happy Father's Day to you and all fathers out there.
I have been busy settling in my new habitat here. Have you figured out the
scrabble game yet? Let me know if you need me to start another game.
I will send another message in private.
Abdoulie Jallow
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>I would like to wish Malanding, Abdoulie Jallow and all the fathers out
>there a very happy father's day. Hey Abdoulie where have you been. I missed
>reading your postings on the L.
>God Bless and Peace Be Upon All
>Alasana Bah.
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Alasana,
>>Happy Father's Day to you and all fathers out there.
>>
>>I have been busy settling in my new habitat here. Have you figured out the
>>scrabble game yet? Let me know if you need me to start another game.
>>I will send another message in private.
>>
>>Abdoulie Jallow
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>I would like to wish Malanding, Abdoulie Jallow and all the fathers out
>there a very happy father's day. Hey Abdoulie where have you been. I missed
>reading your postings on the L.
>God Bless and Peace Be Upon All
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Mr ceesay,
l wouldn`t be fair to my conscience,by closing my eyes to allow your =
this posting to pass by without comment.
Your long introduction was a master piece of high calibre,but =
unfortunately,the rest of your presentation did not follow suit.You =
couldn`t defend your credibility,but rather prefer to throw sand into =
people`s eyes,only to resort to personal attacks and meaningless =
self-expression.
By the way,how credible are you?
lf the case of Mr Essa Sey is a litmus test,both the Government and Mr =
Sey have passed it pretty well.You see,an empty opposition,or opposition =
for opposition sake can never promote the welfare of our =
Nation.lnfact,it only serves to strengthen the position of the people =
you oppose,and reduces the masses trust on the opposition.
An opposition must be efficient enough to proof itself as a better =
alternative,with facts and not fictions.
l have no slightest doubt that you are an intelligent man,as many other =
Gambians,and would appeal to all of us to utilise our intelligence for =
the benefit of our dear Nation.Let us uplift the consciousness of our =
people and enlighten them with the knowledge we acquired.This is the =
only weapon we can arm our people with in their quest for freedom, =
justice and a dignified life on earth.
Your laudable songs about yourself and all what you think you =
are,should not make you to believe that the Gambia is an easy ride.
By the way,how serious are you?
Why warning Jammeh about your ultimate return?Do you think that he would =
run away before your arrival or are you giving us the justification of =
the importance you attached to yourself?Or maybe as you accused =
Tombong,you are another opportunist in waiting.
l found it difficult to believe in almost all what you have said,after =
all the misinformation and apologies within this short period.
Radio Kangkang cannot be tolerated on the G-L lf it is to maintain its =
credibility.lt is high time that we acquaint ourselves with fact =
gathering and stop constipating our society with fictitious and =
imaginary raw fabrication of information.
However,this issue have yet illustrated the unwillingness of Gambians to =
be dragged into an unjustifiable, futile and baseless attack on the =
Government.Even some hard critics of the Jammeh regime have to interject =
with rectification and clarification.
Let us strive to be a responsibly opposition in the interest of our =
Nation.Let us tell the Gambian people our alternative developmental =
programme we have in store, that makes us a better alternative than the =
present Govenment and seek for their support on the basis of that.
Sincere greetings to every one out there,and don`t give up the fight.
Praises are due to our ancestors!!
Landing Alkalo Sanyang.
Ps:-
Jabou,your interjection into this issue was a good piece.lt was =
classic,and you have said it all.Keep on moving.
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> Tombong, Malafy,
>=20
> I read your postings to the L, very carefully, and I must thank you =
for the
> lectures. Indeed, I did find both of your postings very momentous and
> instructive and, in fact, you should tell me how much I should pay for =
the
> lectures next time you write. (laughs!)
>=20
> Anyway, in my view, this ongoing debate about our country, especially =
on the
> eve of the new millennium, is very necessary, so that with all the =
different
> ideas being poured out, we might finally work out the correct BLUE =
PRINT for
> the future of our Nation.
>=20
> It is, therefore, in the interest of our country, to encourage more of =
these
> debates, although I must be quick to add that, in order to reap some
> benefits from these discussions, we have to ensure that we debate with
> maturity, with sincerity, with clarity, with truth, with fairness, and =
with
> respect.
>=20
> One must always be honest, conscientious and honourable enough, to =
give
> credit where it is due. In short, one must always be ingenuous and =
equitable
> enough, to withdraw a position, or a statement, if the person you are
> debating with, has come up with far more credible, more convincing, =
and more
> persuasive arguments.
>=20
> In this regard, we should never let our emotions overshadow or colour =
our
> objectivity and fairness. Politically, all of us have our loyalty =
somewhere,
> but that doesn't mean we should be fanatical with our leaders, or make
> ourselves blind followers, or opportunists.
>=20
> We should always always make sure that our actions are guided by good
> reasoning, truth, objectivity and fairness. It is my view that if =
Africa is
> to make a headway, as the new millennium draws nearer, we must discard =
the
> habit of seeing our leaders as demi gods.
>=20
> Our leaders should be seen as our employees, who should be fired, if =
they
> persisted in doing wrong or bad, but retained if they were delivering =
the
> goods.
>=20
> Now, let me attempt to address some of the issues raised by Malafy and
> Tombong Saidy. But, before addressing these issues, I'll share with =
you an
> information, which some of you might find interesting, so that, =
hopefully,
> you can understand Tombong better.
>=20
> Most of us already know that Tombong was invited by Jammeh, to join =
the then
> AFPRC, after he, Tombong, "humiliated" deposed President Jawara, =
during a
> press conference in Washington DC.
>=20
> Now, for historical purposes, I'll share with you what happened behind =
the
> scenes, so that you can judge for yourselves, whether Mr Saidy is a =
man of
> principles or not, or whether he can cope with real pressures or not, =
in
> times of difficulties.
>=20
> The Daily Observer correspondent in Washington DC, Fatou Jaw Manneh, =
was at
> the press conference and, after the conference, she faxed me the =
story,
> which I edited, gave it a headline and we carried in the front page of =
the
> Observer, as our lead story.
>=20
> The story became the talk of Banjul that day, and, of course, the then
> members of the Ruling Council, led by Mr Jammeh, were very impressed =
with
> Tombong's stance at the press conference.
>=20
> But not knowing that the Jammeh government had a job ready for him, =
and
> apparently being under reported "pressures" from many quarters, for =
having
> "humiliated" ex-president Jawara, Tombong confronted Fatou Jaw Manneh, =
as
> soon as the Observer was out, denying to Fatou that he had said what =
was
> quoted in the Observer story.
>=20
> Fatou Jaw contacted me, asking me the possibility of putting a =
retraction in
> the Observer, because Tombong was denying to her, having said what was
> reported in the Observer.
>=20
> At Fatou's request, I drafted a retraction/apology, which I was going =
to put
> in the Observer, to the effect that Tombong had denied what was =
attributed
> to him, in the Observer. I forgot exactly what and what he was denying =
in
> the story.
>=20
> But, fortunately for him, our reporter contacted me again, at the =
right
> time, before we went to press, saying that Tombong did not want any
> retraction any more, because he was offered a job by the Government at =
our
> Washington DC Embassy, as a result of the story. You can therefore see =
how
> some people can be so opportunistic or can lack principles.
>=20
> Tombong, if you want you can deny this, but Gambia L members are also =
to
> contact Fatou Jaw, for confirmation or denial of my statements.
>=20
> Now coming back to the main issue. I agree that I got wrong again, =
with
> regard to Dr Saja Taal, and I apologise to the list for the =
misinformation.
>=20
> But I have to remind some of the list members, who are very hard in =
their
> criticisms, which I welcome in good faith, that the easiest thing to =
do, is
> to criticise people's works/writings, which is fine, because whoever =
writes
> must expect to be criticised, either rightly or wrongfully. The =
difficult
> thing, surely, is to come up with ideas, especially solid ones and put =
them
> before the publicly, for scrutiny.
>=20
> Anyway, I must say with regard to the Dr Saja Taal issue, the =
misinformation
> was my fault, not my source, if I have to be fair to him. My source =
was
> stressing the need for continuity in a post one was doing well, citing =
the
> fact that Dr Taal was again "replaced" at the Ministry of Education, =
when he
> was already doing a good job there. I wrongly took the word "replace" =
to
> mean dismissal.
>=20
> Again, I apologise to the L, for the misinformation and, Tombong, I =
thank
> you in good faith, for the clarification. I'll take your wise advise =
to be
> more careful in the future.
>=20
> But, of course, even the Western Media, with all their facilities and
> prowess, do retract stories, from time to time, owing to =
misinformation. I
> am sure even Gambia TV, which you head, does make mistakes, from time =
to
> time.
>=20
> I am glad, however, that Mr Saidy didn't say I was wrong in saying =
that
> Maodo Touray and Essa Sey were to be appointed ambassadors. Tombong, =
you
> might have known about these appointments, because you are a =
government
> insider, but, please, be fair here: don't give the impression that =
this was
> "a stale news" within the media in the Gambia, when either the private =
media
> or government media had reported it.
>=20
> The government media might wait for the "agreement", but if the =
private
> media knew about this story, they would have, of course, published it =
by
> now.
>=20
> Tombong, I, myself, didn't give any reasons for Njogou Bah's =
withdrawal from
> France, as insinuated by you. I quoted a source, which is permissible =
in
> journalism, who narrated what reportedly happened in Paris.
>=20
> Mr Saidy, I do not know why Ismaila Ceesay had been recalled, neither =
do I
> claim to know why Mr Grey-Johnson had been recalled. But I know, for a =
fact,
> despite what you are saying to the contrary, that Njogou's withdrawal =
from
> Paris had do with his wife's alleged, and I repeat, alleged hostility
> towards their maid.
>=20
> Whether Njogou's wife was hostile to the Embassy staff or not, I do =
not have
> a clue. But it is also a fact that Mrs Bah was reported to the =
government by
> her maid, for alleged hostility.
>=20
> I admire Njogou as a diplomat, and also as a French/English/French
> interpreter, and I would be the last person to put him and his family =
in
> trouble with authorities in Banjul.
>=20
> Again, some people should not get me wrong, for I am not saying that =
Mr
> Jammeh should not have appointed Essa Sey as ambassador. That's is =
Jammeh's
> prerogative. I had said that if I, Ebrima Ceesay, were to appoint =
someone as
> an ambassador in Paris, it would be based on merit, service, =
experience
> tactfulness, qualifications and, of course, loyalty.
>=20
> For me, it is not a question of speaking "Fluent French". I speak =
French
> myself. Language can be studied and mastered by anyone. The Gambia's =
High
> commissioner to the UK, John Bojang, has a very good command of the =
English
> Language and, on top of that, he is an orator, who can speak off the =
cuff,
> for hours.
>=20
> But, in my view, he is not a tactful person or a good diplomat, =
otherwise he
> would not have said that "Slavery was not a curse...it was, in fact, =
good
> for the black people."...
>=20
> Again, as I said before, I have my reservation about Essa Sey's =
appointment,
> but I am not going to belabour the point. In fact, it is very =
unfortunate
> that the issue has been dragged to this level. My Sey, if you find my
> comments upsetting or painful, then my sincerely apologies to you.
>=20
> But you do know that I am very "controversial" in nature, and I don't
> hesitate to speak my mind on issues, regardless of who is involved. Is =
this
> not more honourable than back biting you?
>=20
> Malafy, I didn't say I am "closed to Essa's wife, or family". I said =
his
> wife was a relative. I haven't seen Essa for a long time. By way, I =
didn't
> even know he was in New York. But he used to call me "GORO" (an in =
law),
> because his wife was brought up by Momat Adam Ceesay, formerly of
> Cooperative Union, who is a dad to me.
>=20
> It is unfortunate that I am also forced to drag Momat's name into =
this, and
> I hope he, too, forgives me. Anyway, Fatou Camara, thanks for your
> clarications with regard to Essa Khan. By the way, when are you coming =
back
> to Birmingham to visit? I must say that all of the crew in Birmingham =
do
> miss your good sense of humour.
>=20
> Malafy, let me tell you that the reason why I avoid contacting many in
> family is because I do not want to put anyone in trouble, given my =
well
> known opposition to the Jammeh regime. Even my uncle, Ndondi, said on =
this
> forum, that he didn't hear from me, since I left the Gambia.
>=20
> Also Mr Jarju, I don't mind you calling me a "political refugee", but =
for
> the records, I need to tell you, and you checked this information, =
that I
> came to the UK, because I was given a two-year study leave with =
salary, by
> the Observer, in November 1996, to do an M Phil at the University of
> Birmingham.
>=20
> In fact, the Observer had carried an editorial, in December 1996, =
clarifying
> that I was in the UK, because I was given two years study leave with =
salary.
> So I didn't run away from the Gambia, or no one had forced me to =
leave.
> Technically, I could go to the Gambia, even today.
>=20
> In fact, I should have returned home by now, but I decided to stay =
here, for
> the time being, because I got married, I am still studying and also I =
was
> working very hard, on a book, on the Gambian Coup, of course, not =
realising
> that it was one thing to have your manuscript ready, but another thing =
to
> find a publishers interested in your material. But with Sandra's help =
and
> contacts, it would be finally published.
>=20
> Anyway, Malafy, people are right to say I am in exile in England, but =
it is
> a self-imposed one. Mr Jammeh himself knows that whenever I am ready =
with
> what I am doing here, I'll return home, and they better be prepared =
for my
> comeback.
>=20
> Hey, the last thing I would do would be to abandon my politics for =
justice,
> fair play and freedom. Call me a politician or a journalist, but that =
would
> stop me from speaking my mind.
>=20
> Tombong, of course, it is an open secret that I announced over the BBC =
in
> June 1996, before the ban on party politics was lifted in the Gambia, =
that I
> was going to contest the September 1996 presidential elections, if =
Jammeh
> ran.
>=20
> Tombong, I had to publicly renounce my candidature, not because I =
feared I
> wouldn't make it, as alleged by you. This is far from the truth. I =
renounced
> my candidature, because of family pressures and the fact that I didn't =
want
> to be used by any Western Country.
>=20
> Once some diplomats friends of mine became involved and started =
raising the
> necessary funds for the campaign, I became very uncomfortable with the =
whole
> thing, because I didn't want to be no one's puppet. Also, mentally, I =
didn't
> think I was ready for the task ahead.
>=20
> But I wouldn't hesitate to repeat, on this forum, that if Mr Jammeh =
and co
> were to remain in power, it shouldn't surprise you if I form a =
political
> party.
>=20
> Anyway, I'll have to continue this write up one of these days, because =
my
> fingers are paining me.
>=20
> Ebrima Ceesay,
> Birmingham, UK.
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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:18:12 PDT
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From: saiks samateh <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: THE STORY OF MUSA NGOM
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THE SAD STORY OF MUSA NGOM
For some time back we learn that Musa Ngom is not even in the position to=
pay
his house rent.This alone is no big deal,we know there many who cant pay =
their
house rent,but in the case of Musa Ngom he was leaving in Senegal, perhap=
s
more secured and respected,he was ask by his president if he would prefer=
leaving in his own house or the house of a friend.Musa opted for his own =
house
and that is,Gambia, his president(Dr Alhagi Yaya a.j.j.Jammeh)promised t=
hat
his government will do all they can to help him realize his dreams as one=
of
the most recognized Gambian musician in Senegambia.Musa never got again a=
ny
session with this president.He even hired a Taxi to the country -side dur=
ing a
presidential tour,just to be able to remind him of all the promises,he ne=
ver
got near the president,he has to pay the Taxi Driver with his speakers.Le=
aving
in his own house seems to be more and more uncomfortable.But in his frien=
ds
house(SENEGAL)memories of his talents as a god musician were still alive,=
they
decorated him with one of their highest cultural decorations.Here my
conscience did remind me that narrow minded nationalism is very
dangerous.Perhaps Musa should have stayed in Senegal and his music will
without doubt continue to get to the Gambia and inspire Gambian musicians=
=2EI am
no fans of Musa,simply because the contents of his music do not contain a=
ny
message of substance as far as i am concern.By the way "Ovare"
(working-Class)as far as I am concern is the best that musa has ever
produced.But the fact that we must not only sit and see injustice done to=
some
one, made me interested in this case,as was the case of Donkey ,Syngle
etc.They lied to him,they handle him badly, and they are now hiding from =
him.
Since I did not hear anything more on this case,I have my doubts if Musa=
is
been heard,if so I would love to be inform,however not to take any chance=
,I
am appealing to Tombong Saidy ,who is not only the Director of our TV st=
ation
but also a strong defender of the regime, to organized a session between =
Musa
and the president so that he (MUSA)could remind the president of all the
promises.Do him a favour Tombong !!!
For Freedom
Saiks
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Mr Jeng,
Thanks for the piece of advise. I am far from perfect and, consequently, I
stand to be corrected, at anytime of the day, at anytime of the night. There
are certain names on the L, whenever they criticise me, I am convinced that
the criticism is a genuine one.
Indeed, I've learnt some very valuable lessons, as a result of what happened
on the L, these past few days, and, hopefully, with God's guidance, such a
situation would never arise again.
By the way, what's the latest, as we normally say, from Saloum? Good rainy
season expected?
Ndey Jobarteh, what a start! Why not request - perhaps through Tombong Saidy
- an exclusive interview with Mr Jammeh, for the L? He might grant you one.
They say you never try, you never know! Anyway, do have a quality vacation.
Ebrima Ceesay,
Birmingham, UK.
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>Mr Ebrima Ceesay:
>You are right most of the time, but this time you got it wrong, and
>vaccilating and throwing of more mud at people does put you in a less that
>geniune posture.Also, remember that it should never be about you.
>
>Musa Jeng.
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Katim,
Please subscribe Ms. Beatrice Allen of the UNDP and her email address is:
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PEACE
Tombong
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Mr. njie
Why bother,!! hence it's ceesay's perception of Gambian advancement and
critical mindedness, I then don't notice any malfunction or obduration from
any corner of this forum expect from his. Mr. ceesay, do u want acceptance
or are u need in of obedience. Practice what u preach!!!!!!!
Peter
kittos
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>Here we go again. How do you expect people to read your postings and
>feel enlightened. So you checked my IP address and I do not exist,
>someone else maybe Matarr is subscribing to GL under a false name
>William Njie. I was born and raised William Njie, my name was never
>changed or altered in any shape or form. There are quite a few people
>on this list laughing at you, because they have received and/or are
>still receiving private e-mails from me under this address.
>
>I would ask a few people who subscribe on this list to send an e-mail
>acknowledging my existence, but you will cry a wider conspiracy; and I
>will not even give you that satisfaction. For those who know of my
>existence will always be skeptical of everything you write from now on,
>and those who were at the ceremony held for Ambassador Johnson will be
>skeptical about things you write because, I was honored to be given the
>opportunity to give a speech in front of my fellow Gambians in honor of
>Ambassador Johnson.
>
>I leave you Mr Ceesay to continue on your conspiracy theories.
>
>Peace to all.
>
>
>--- ebrima ceesay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Gambia L,
> >
> > I am doing something very urgent right now, but
> > expect my reaction to
> > Tombong's posting by tommorrow. Tombong, I'll make
> > you to apologise to this
> > forum, for misleading them. You said Essa Sey was
> > never a deputy permanent.
> > I couldn't believe this statement is coming from
> > you.
> >
> > Essa was a deputy permanent Secretary at the
> > Ministry of Defence. In fact,
> > he was one of those who chaired the Guinea Bissau
> > peace talks, held in the
> > Gambia, some time ago. Gambia L members in the
> > Gambia can check
> > thisinformation and report the truth to this forum.
> >
> > As far as I know, it was Maodo Touray, not Essa Sey,
> > who was posted to New
> > York, to strengthen the Gambia's mission to the UN.
> > Let's be honest and
> > fair in our criticisms. This time, I got it right.
> > Essa was indeed a deputy
> > permanent Secretary at the Defence Ministry.
> >
> > Tombong, I am glad that you are now coming out
> > publicly on this matter
> > instead of using a pen name. Some time ago, I
> > checked the IP numbers for
> > Ebou Manneh and William Njie and I know exactly, who
> > is writing under this
> > false names. I'll wait until Ndey Jobarteh rejoins
> > this forum, then I can
> > shed light more light on this. At least, when I
> > write, I use my real names.
> >
> > Anyway, Gambia L, expect my reaction tommorrow. This
> > is an era of truth and
> > clarity.
> >
> > Ebrima Ceesay,
> > Birmingham, UK.
> >
> >
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Mr Sanyang,
Thanks for the free lectures and, by the way, always feel free, to call me a
prevaricator, or an "opportunist", as you did in your commentary.
Anyway, I, personally, don't know who you are, but I would never, especially
in the open, doubt, or question, your integrity, even though we may have
different political viewpoints.
If I am an "opportunist", or a prevaricator, time will tell! They say the
truth, buried to the ground, will rise again!!
I hate to say this, but, in passing, one thing I would make abundantly clear
to you, Mr Sanyang, is that if I were "an opportunist", as you alleged, I
shouldn't even be thinking about the Gambia, or returning home at some stage
, because there are more doors open for me here, than in the Gambia.
In fact, friends and colleagues here think that something is "wrong" with
me, for continuing, as they would often say, to waist my precious time and
energy, with Gambian politics, always making unnecessary and expensive phone
calls to the Gambia, when I could be doing other productive things.
Anyway, Mr Sanyang, regardless of your harsh comments, I still believe that
you are a good, righteous and decent person, and I am looking forward to
meeting you, in person, one fine day. May be, if we meet in person, we can
understand each other's position better.
Let me tell you a story. One day, I went to interview the late Charles Jow
of the Exams Council and, at some point during the interview, he didn't
think he was being interviewed by me, Ebrima Ceesay.
Why? Because I was often referring to him as, "Sir, Sir, Sir". He said based
on my "controversial" writings and my tough talking radio interviews, he
would never have expected me to refer to him, "Sir; Yes Sir; Yes Sir".
Mr Sanyang, may be, if, by chance, we meet in person one fine day, you might
have a change of heart and say: "Wow, after all, Ebrima is not the fake
person I thought he was!"
Anyway, I don't blame you for your remarks, because communications, or
correspondence, via cyberspace, as Halifa Sallah once wrote to me, on this
from, (and I hope I am quoting him correctly), could be difficult sometimes.
But, as I said to Musa Jeng, in an earlier posting, I did, in fact, learn
some valuable lessons, as a result of what happened, on the L, these past
few days, and I hope to put these useful lessons into good use.
Hope to meet you one fine day, Mr Sanyang, and do have a good week. Also,
good luck in your endeavours!
Ebrima Ceesay,
Birmingham, UK.
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U are welcome, keep it up!!!!!!
Kittos
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>Peter,
>
>Thanks for pointing that out. I was in a hurry to go to work, however the
>facts are correct.
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>PEACE
>
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Asalaamu alaikum G-L
Alhamdulillah wasalaatou wasalaamu ala Nabiyyina Muhammad. Folks, I think we
should move on. Please, let us not rub it in.
Indeed, Ebrima has received more than his fair share of criticism for his
lapses these past days. Most importantly, he honourably and swiftly owned up
to his mistakes and apologised to the offended parties who have all
graciously accepted his apology. Ebrima, I commend you for that and I do
commend Tombong and William for their concilliatory replies. I do hope the
lessons are learnt.
One of my Sheickhs would say, even 'horses stumble', but you gracefully and
politely handled your mistake. Father Cleary used to say at Saints, 'manners
maketh man'; and you have shown us that. May Allah reward for that. This is
the kind of atmosphere that Gambia L should foster and not acerbic
never-ending political diatribes that engender unnecessary animosity.
In closing, I must repeat the advise that I gave you one time in another
debate from Suratul Hujurat about journalistic ethics (please read a
translation of the Sura). The gist of the message is to be careful before
relaying news to not fall into what the Allah said 'Antu seebu qauman bi
jahalatin', (that you do not hurt others in ignorance)...by spreading false
news. May Allah strengthen you and nourish your mind.
Allahumma salli wasallim alaa Nabiyyina Muhammad. Wasalaam.
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Ebrima apologise, if u are wrong, i will not make u a coward! There can't B
a smoke without fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kittos
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>Katim and list managers,
>
>Ebrima wrote:
>
>"Tombong, I am glad that you are now coming out publicly on this matter
>instead of using a pen name. Some time ago, I checked the IP number for
>Ebou
>Manneh and William Njie and I know exactly, who is writing under this false
>names. I'll wait until Ndey Jobarteh rejoins this forum, then I can shed
>light more on this. At least, when I write, I use my real names".
>
>Katim, and to all list managers, I am lodging a complain against Ebrima
>Ceesay based on the above statement and I demand that you investigate this
>allegation and take the necessary action. I DO NOT USE PEN NAMES WHEN I
>WRITE. WHY THE HELL DO I HAVE TO DO THAT? I demand an apology from Ebrima
>Ceesay for he is tarnishing my image and damaging my character. Now that he
>is cornered, he is attempting to distract our attentions from the issues at
>hand by tarnishing my image.
>
>PEACE
>
>Tombong Saidy
>
>
>
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>>Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 03:44:12 PDT
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>>Gambia L,
>>
>>I am doing something very urgent right now, but expect my reaction to
>>Tombong's posting by tommorrow. Tombong, I'll make you to apologise to
>>this
>>forum, for misleading them. You said Essa Sey was never a deputy
>>permanent.
>>I couldn't believe this statement is coming from you.
>>
>>Essa was a deputy permanent Secretary at the Ministry of Defence. In fact,
>>he was one of those who chaired the Guinea Bissau peace talks, held in the
>>Gambia, some time ago. Gambia L members in the Gambia can check
>>thisinformation and report the truth to this forum.
>>
>>As far as I know, it was Maodo Touray, not Essa Sey, who was posted to New
>>York, to strengthen the Gambia's mission to the UN. Let's be honest and
>>fair in our criticisms. This time, I got it right. Essa was indeed a
>>deputy
>>permanent Secretary at the Defence Ministry.
>>
>>Tombong, I am glad that you are now coming out publicly on this matter
>>instead of using a pen name. Some time ago, I checked the IP numbers for
>>Ebou Manneh and William Njie and I know exactly, who is writing under this
>>false names. I'll wait until Ndey Jobarteh rejoins this forum, then I can
>>shed light more light on this. At least, when I write, I use my real
>>names.
>>
>>Anyway, Gambia L, expect my reaction tommorrow. This is an era of truth
>>and
>>clarity.
>>
>>Ebrima Ceesay,
>>Birmingham, UK.
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greetings,
i hope the forum will indulge be in posting this semi-private announcement.
hope to reach individuals on the list who may be interested.
i will be hosting a small meeting at our family place on 3700 buford hwy,
#58 during the july reunion. if interested please contact me.
issues to be discussed relate to:
1. business interests
2. other issues relevant to work i've been doing
looking at having the session either sat. or sun. at times not scheduled by
the organizers of the july reunion (july 4th).
glad to be back on the L.
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Landing Sanyang,
Thanks for the free lectures and, by the way, always feel free, to call me a
prevaricator or an "opportunist", as you did in your commentary.
Anyway, I, personally, don't know who you are, but I would never, especially
in the open, doubt, or question, your personal integrity and honesty, even
though we may have different political viewpoints.
If I am an "opportunist", or a prevaricator, time will tell! They say the
truth, buried to the ground, will rise again!!
I hate to say this, but, in passing, one thing I would make abundantly clear
to you, Mr Sanyang, is that if I were an opportunist, as you alleged, I
shouldn't even be thinking about the Gambia, because there are more doors
open to me, here, than in the Gambia.
In fact, friends and colleagues here think that something is "wrong" with
me, for continuing, as they would often say, to "waist" my "precious time
and energy", with Gambian politics, always making unnecessary expensive
phone calls to the Gambia, when I could be doing other productive things.
Anyway, Mr Sanyang, regardless of your harsh comments, I still believe that
you are a good, righteous and decent person, and I am looking forward to
meeting you, in person, one fine day.
May be, if, by chance, we meet in person, one fine day, we might understand
each other's position better and, in this way, give each other the respect
one deserves.
Let me tell you a story. One day, I went to interview the late Charles Jow
of the Exams Council and, at some point during the interview, he didn't
think he was being interviewed by me, Ebrima Ceesay.
Why? Because I was often referring to him, during the interview, as "Sir;
Sir ; yes Sir." He said based on my "controversial" articles, and my
tough-talking radio interviews, he would never have expected Ebrima Ceesay,
of all people, to refer to him as "Sir, Sir; Yes Sir; Yes Sir"...
Hopefully, Mr Sanyang, if we meet face to face, in the future, you might
have a change of heart and say: "Wow, after all, Ebrima is not the fake
person I thought he was!" I do get it wrong sometimes, but that doesn't
justify allegations that I am fake, or unreal, or "an opportunist" to borrow
your own words.
In any case, as I said to Musa Jeng, in an earlier posting, I have, in fact,
learnt some very valuable lessons, as a result of what happened, on the L,
these past few days, and I hope to put these useful lessons into good use.
Anyway, Mr Sanyang, I don't blame you for your wild allegations, because
communications, or correspondence, via Cyberspace, as Halifa sallah once
wrote to me, on this forum, (and I hope I am quoting him correctly), could
be difficult at times.
Anyway, do have a good week, and good luck in your endeavours!
Ebrima Ceesay,
Birmingham, UK.
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Landing,
By reading yours and the socalld oppositions mailing you seem to forget that nobody is perfect. I am not a voter in the gambia, but all possitive things the government in the Gambia does I shall give them my full sopport. I have been away from home for a long time, but it seems
that people have forgotened what was the reason many people left the Gambia during the Jawara era. Is it that your friends are not nominated as diplomats that is why you are angry. You have tried to enter polotics in Sweden the last elections but you know yourself, who will vote
for you? Not because you are an african, but you do not sitify people as a candidate. You are not a democrat, I think you are anarchist. Why dont you go back to Gambia to express you disatisfaction to the Government. I suggest you set a good example by going back home and
contribute in the development, if you feel that the present government is not doing the right things.It is very easy to be here in Sweden and criticize. Remember you can only criticize only if you contribute possitively. That is a principle you and the other gambians forget. The
Gambia as a country is different as the OGIS. The Gambians have a right to choose the people to represent them, and furthermore, people must be given a chance to prove themselves. Jawara and his gang got 30 years to do so. Did you extend you criticisims to him while you were
there, or were you like the rest? It is time the critics should go and campange right now before the next elections if the want to justify their opinion.This I have realized that Gambians would condem, but they are not ready to work. I am sorry if anybody feels angry but the
truth does not taste sugar.
SANYANG LANDING skrev:
> Dear Mr ceesay,
>
> You have definitely freed yourself by your further clarification of your position.l was also very sceptical of your first report,as brother William.
>
> Your example of John P Bojang as an unseasoned diplomat is very accurate.But as no one is born a seasoned diplomat,what criteria if not political should govern the selection of diplomats.Must it be only people who have studied lnternational relations or seasoned politicians.
> You don`t need to respond to my wondering thoughts.
>
> Praises are due to our ancestors!!
> Landing Alkalo Sanyang.
>
> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> Frĺn: ebrima ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
> Till: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> Datum: den 16 juni 1999 13:43
> Ämne: Re: Two new Gambian Ambassadors Named
>
> >William Njie,
> >
> >I read your reaction to my piece titled "Two New Gambian Ambassadors Named",
> >and I am compelled to take issue with you, in order to set the records
> >straight.
> >
> >However, before taking issue with Mr Njie, I must say that it is, indeed,
> >encouraging to note that Gambians have now become more critically minded,
> >more politically mature, more analytical and more dialectical.
> >
> >Indeed, these are very encouraging signs and, for me, they typify a bright
> >and glossy future for our country. Consequently, let us continue to do more
> >and more reading; let us continue to pose more and more questions; let us be
> >more attentive, and do more listening, regardless of who is talking, so that
> >we would be better equipped to chart out the right/correct path our country
> >should take, especially at the dawn of the new millennium.
> >
> >I am quite sanguine that if we, as Gambians, become more open minded and
> >more tolerant towards each other, regardless of our differences in beliefs
> >and opinions, there would only be one winner: that's our country, The
> >Gambia.
> >
> >Politically, we may have major differences, in terms of how the Gambia
> >should be governed, but this shouldn't mean that we should see ourselves as
> >enemies, for, at the end of the day, we all want to see a more developed and
> >a more prosperous Gambia.
> >
> >We should always remind ourselves that the Gambia does not belong to Mr
> >Jammeh alone; rather, it belongs to all of us. Therefore, all of us should
> >have a say, in terms of how our country should be run, or managed.
> >
> >Let us continue the dialogue; let us continue to engage in healthy and
> >honest debates, so that what is wrong in our country is righted and what is
> >right is maintained.
> >
> >Now, let me move to the issue at hand. William Njie, if I understood you
> >very well, your piece could be summed up as follows: Firstly, you wrote that
> >I had said that Maodo Touray and Essa Sey were "not qualified to be
> >(appointed) as ambassadors, without giving concrete reasons"...
> >
> >Secondly, you urged me to try and "get the facts" and also to "make sensible
> >and reasonable recommendations"... In the case of Njogou Bah's withdrawal
> >from Paris as our ambassador, you urged me to try and "interview the parties
> >involved and (then) report my findings."
> >
> >Lastly, you indicated that (based on my writings), it appeared to you that I
> >had something "personal against the government" - "a hidden agenda".
> >
> >Well, with regard to your first point, I didn't say that these two people
> >are not qualified to be appointed ambassadors. In fact, I have no objection,
> >or reservation, as far as Maodo Touray's appointment is concerned. Belgium
> >is a key place, having in mind that the European Union is headquartered in
> >Brussels, and let's hope that Mr Touray would live up to the challenge and
> >do a good job for his country.
> >
> >I know he is hard working, he's been in the Foreign Ministry for a long time
> >now, and he also speaks impeccable French. Yes, as for Essa Sey's
> >appointment, I did express my reservation, but I am not going to belabour
> >the point, before people think that there is something personal between Essa
> >and myself. Anyway, thankfully, Essa himself knows that I always speak what
> >is in my mind.
> >
> >I know he, too, is smart and hard working, but if I, Ebrima Ceesay, were to
> >appoint an ambassador to such an important place like Paris, where the
> >ambassador also doubles as The Gambia's permanent representative to UNESCO,
> >it would be based on service, merit, experience, qualifications, tactfulness
> >and, of course, loyalty.
> >
> >I know it is Jammeh's prerogative to appoint anyone he wants as ambassador,
> >but, in my view, Mr Jammeh needs to appoint seasoned/career diplomats as our
> >ambassadors, if he wants to project a good image of the Gambia and Gambians.
> >Let me give you an example to back my point.
> >
> >Recently, our High Commissioner to the UK, John Bojang, unknowingly and
> >unintentionally uttered what was seen as "an insulting statement", during a
> >speech he was giving to a group of black British, who are planning to go to
> >the Gambia, later this month, for the Roots Homecoming Festival.
> >
> >Among other things, the ambassador had said: ..."Slavery was a blessing for
> >the black people"....
> >
> >Believe me, this statement angered so many black people here. In fact, many
> >of the black newpapers here had reported it. Out of respect for those black
> >British on the L, I am not going to repeat everything the High Commissioner
> >said.
> >
> >People on the L, who are interested in knowing what and what the ambassador
> >had said, can contact the editor-in-chief of the London-based Mano Vision
> >Magazine, one of the publications that covered the story, for the full text
> >of High Commissioner Bojang's speech. The editor's e-mail is
> >[log in to unmask]
> >
> >I know, for a fact, that Mr Bojang didn't intend to insult, or offend the
> >black people here. I believe he made these "insulting remarks"
> >inadvertently, although the damaged had already been done. But this is the
> >price you pay if you do not appoint tactful people, or seasoned diplomats,
> >as ambassadors.
> >
> >I can bet that Baboucarr Blaise Jagne in New York, Bai Ousman Secka being
> >currently wasted as a Commissioner in Mansa Konko, Njogou Bah or O.G Sallah,
> >would never make such a diplomatic blunder.
> >
> >Regarding your second point, Mr Njie, I can tell you that when it comes to
> >getting the facts, I am very good at it. I hardly write and people challenge
> >the facts. You can do your own investigation in this regard. Of course, I am
> >not perfect, so I am bound to make mistakes, once in a while.
> >
> >In fact, the NIA had to contact a particular government minister about me,
> >thinking that this minister was the one leaking confidential government
> >secrets to me.
> >
> >Of course, Mr Njie, I would want to interview Njogou Bah, or his wife, about
> >what actually happened in Paris, but you know in your heart and in your
> >mind, that the couple will never speak to me ON THE RECORD, because they
> >know what the consequences would be at home.
> >
> >So even if one of them gave me an interview, I'll still quote "reliable
> >sources" if I were to write the story, because the moment I attribute the
> >story to them, they are in trouble.
> >
> >As for your last point, I can guarantee you that I have nothing personal
> >against the government or Jammeh. Believe me, I have nothing against Mr
> >Jammeh as a person. What I oppose, in the strongest terms, are Jammeh's
> >policies.
> >
> >I believe his policies are retrogressing and furthermore, I, for one, am not
> >convinced that this current government is capable of addressing the needs
> >and aspirations of the Gambian People. This is Ebrima Ceesay's opinion,
> >which I am entitled to. Equally, you are also entitled to your opinion and
> >beliefs.
> >
> >And I do not also have any hidden agenda. I don't know what the future holds
> >for me, but my wish is to continue in the role of a social watch dog, where
> >I am convinced I will play a far more effective role, because it is a field
> >where all my instincts drive me. But, of course, if people like Jammeh were
> >to remain in power, it should not surprise you, if I go into full time
> >politics.
> >
> >By the way, I was told that Dr Saja Taal, permanent Secretary at the
> >Ministry of Education, had been sacked for the second time yesterday.
> >Interestingly, someone who read my piece on the above subject, told me
> >yesterday that these two latest ambassadorial appointments did not come the
> >him as a "surprise", because, as he put it, "the Civil Service is empty
> >nowadays".
> >
> >This person added: "Most of the smart people in the Civil Service have been
> >sacked, or retired prematurely. In fact, there are so many vacant posts in
> >the Civil Service right now. You want qualified people to fill these posts,
> >you look around, and you wouldn't see anyone"...
> >
> >Isn't it ironic that while we, in the Gambia, complain about lack of
> >teachers and doctors, and rely on volunteers from the US Peace Corps and the
> >British VSO, our own qualified people are offering their services to these
> >same countries.
> >
> >African development will become a reality, if and only when we are able to
> >tap our rich human resources. The return or presence of such human resources
> >will serve as a leverage for accelerated development.
> >
> >Finally, Mr Njie, if I do bore you with my postings, just use your delete
> >button.
> >
> >Ebrima Ceesay,
> >Birmingham, UK.
> >
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Dear Mr Ceesay,
Thanks for your respond to my observations.l apologise if you think l =
was unnecessarily harsh,but it was an attempt to observe exactly as l =
felt.No heart feelings at all, just a human reaction.l am glad that you =
have admitted your mistake and learnt your lesson.We look forward to a =
brighter future and long live the Gambia.
l also look forward to meeting you some day,and please accept my =
apology.
Best of regards to you,and don`t give up the fight.
Praises are due to our ancestors!!
Landing Alkalo Sanyang.
PS:-
Mr Ceesay,before signing off,l would like to reach my hand to you on =
this subject matter in private if you so desire,inorder to fully =
understand what made me to react this way,what my expectations were,and =
where my frustrations lie.l hope that would make you understand that my =
reaction is natural,with no heart feeling.
Regards,
LAS.
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Fr=E5n: ebrima ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
Till: <[log in to unmask]>
Skickat: den 21 juni 1999 16:40
=C4mne: Landing Sanyang, thanks for the lessons!
> Mr Sanyang,
>=20
> Thanks for the free lectures and, by the way, always feel free, to =
call me a
> prevaricator, or an "opportunist", as you did in your commentary.
>=20
> Anyway, I, personally, don't know who you are, but I would never, =
especially
> in the open, doubt, or question, your integrity, even though we may =
have
> different political viewpoints.
>=20
> If I am an "opportunist", or a prevaricator, time will tell! They say =
the
> truth, buried to the ground, will rise again!!
>=20
> I hate to say this, but, in passing, one thing I would make abundantly =
clear
> to you, Mr Sanyang, is that if I were "an opportunist", as you =
alleged, I
> shouldn't even be thinking about the Gambia, or returning home at some =
stage
> , because there are more doors open for me here, than in the Gambia.
>=20
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Asalaamu alaikum Ebrima,
Alhamdulillah wasalaatu wasalaamu ala Nabiyyina Muhammad.
I know Alkalo (Landing Sanyang) and he is a terrific guy. Trust me, he is
well-meaning and not acrimonious. In fact he has a very good sense of humor.
Back in the days he would say 'Purr boobu amut wah sah':)))
Allahumma salli wasallim alaa Nabiyyina Muhammad. Wasalaam.
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> Subject: Worm.ExploreZip Worm - IMPORTANT
> Importance: High
>
Activate your virus alert packages -
> Folks,
> There's another virus out there you should be aware of; it comes as an
> attachment to email called Pretty Park.exe. The following is a reminder of
> the zipped_files.exe warning we sent out earlier.
> Janice
>
> Folks,
> The IIS Virus Alert team has just learned about the Worm.ExploreZip worm.
> Like Melissa, this worm utilizes MAPI commands and Microsoft Outlook on
> Windows systems to propagate itself. The worm e-mails itself out as an
> attachment with the filename "zipped_files.exe". The body of the e-mail
> message may appear to come from a known e-mail correspondent and contains
> the following text:
>
> Hi Recipient Name!
>
> I received your email and I shall send you a reply ASAP.
>
> Till then, take a look at the attached zipped docs.
>
> bye
>
> Once the attachment is executed, the worm proceeds to copy itself to the
> c:\windows\system directory with the filename "Explore.exe" and then
> modifies the WIN.INI file so, the program is executed each time Windows is
> started. The worm then utilizes your e-mail client to harvest e-mail
> addresses in order to propagate itself.
>
> The IIS Virus Alert team is currently working with our anti-virus software
> providers to ensure that we have protection against this threat. In the
> interim, should you receive a message like the one described above, please
> delete it without opening the attachment and then notify Virus Alert via
> e-mail immediately.
>
> You may refer to the attached file for more specific information. Should
> you have any questions or concerns regarding this issue, please let us
> know.
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> Thank you in advance for your assistance.
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> IIS Virus Alert Team
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<p>Worm.ExploreZip is a worm that contains a malicious payload. The =
worm utilizes MAPI commands and Microsoft Outlook on Windows systems =
to propagate itself. The worm was first discovered in Israel and =
submitted to the Symantec AntiVirus Research Center on June 6, 1999.=0D
<p>The worm e-mails itself out as an attachment with the filename =
"zipped_files.exe". The body of the e-mail message may appear to come =
from a known e-mail correspondent and contains the following text:=0D
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<i><font color=3Dblue>Hi <font color=3D"red">Receipient =
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I received your email and I shall send you a reply ASAP.<br>=0D
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bye</font></i>=0D
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<p>The worm determines whom to mail this message to by going through =
your received messages in your Inbox. =0D
<p>Once the attachment is executed, it may display the following =
window:<br>=0D
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<p>The worm proceeds to copy itself to the c:\windows\system directory =
with the filename "Explore.exe" and then modifies the WIN.INI file so, =
the program is executed each time Windows is started. The worm then =
utilizes your e-mail client to harvest e-mail addresses in order to =
propagate itself. One may notice their e-mail client start when this =
occurs.=0D
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<p>In addition, when Worm.ExploreZip is executed, it also searches =
through the C through Z drives of your computer system and selects a =
series of files of any file extension to destroy by making them 0 bytes =
long. This can result in non-recoverable data and/or computer =
system.=0D
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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:55:43 -0700
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Subject: Re: Expect my reaction to Tombong
> HI EBRIMA,
> FROM WHAT I GATHER, YOU HAVE MADE QUITE A MISTAKE. YOU HAVE BEEN
> CONFUSING ESSA KHAN DPS AT THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE FOR DEFENCE AND ESSA
SEY
> OF THE THE GAMBIA'S MISSION TO THE UN.WELL IT'S ALRIGHT ANYONE COULD HAVE
> MADE THAT MISTAKE.
>
> ANOTHER POINT OF RECTIFICATION, WILLIAM NJIE LIVES IN WASHINGTON DC AND
> WORKS FOR CONGRESS. I HAPPEN TO KNOW HIM,AND I AM SURE OTHER LIST MEMBERS
> KNOW HIM TOO. I DO NOT KNOW WHO EBOU MANNEH IS,BUT I CERTAINLY KNOW HE IS
> NOT TOMBONG. MAYBE HE WILL PROVE WHO HE IS.
>
> YOU KNOW TOMBONG IS NOT USING A PEN NAME, MR CEESAY, SO PLEASE DO NOT
START
> THAT. TOMBONG HAS BEEN ON THE L FOR ALMOST 4 YEARS AND HAS NEVER HAD A
> REASON TO COVER UP HIS IDENTITY. I HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT TOMBONG BELIEVES IN
> WHATEVER HE WRITES OR SAYS, HE ALSO HAPPENS TO GET THE FACTS BEFORE HE
> LEAPS. I GUESS EVEN THOUGH HE IS NOT A JOURNALIST, WORKING WITH THE MEDIA
> HAS TAUGHT HIM THAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO GET THE FACTS BEFORE GIVING
> INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC. THEY DON'T DESERVE TO BE MISINFORMED.
>
> NO HARD FEELINGS AND GOOD LUCK.
>
> FATOU DIBBA- SAIDY
> {THIS IS NO PEN NAME EITHER}
>
>
> >From: ebrima ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Expect my reaction to Tombong
> >Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 03:44:12 PDT
> >
> >Gambia L,
> >
> >I am doing something very urgent right now, but expect my reaction to
> >Tombong's posting by tommorrow. Tombong, I'll make you to apologise to
this
> >forum, for misleading them. You said Essa Sey was never a deputy
permanent.
> >I couldn't believe this statement is coming from you.
> >
> >Essa was a deputy permanent Secretary at the Ministry of Defence. In
fact,
> >he was one of those who chaired the Guinea Bissau peace talks, held in
the
> >Gambia, some time ago. Gambia L members in the Gambia can check
> >thisinformation and report the truth to this forum.
> >
> >As far as I know, it was Maodo Touray, not Essa Sey, who was posted to
New
> >York, to strengthen the Gambia's mission to the UN. Let's be honest and
> >fair in our criticisms. This time, I got it right. Essa was indeed a
deputy
> >permanent Secretary at the Defence Ministry.
> >
> >Tombong, I am glad that you are now coming out publicly on this matter
> >instead of using a pen name. Some time ago, I checked the IP numbers for
> >Ebou Manneh and William Njie and I know exactly, who is writing under
this
> >false names. I'll wait until Ndey Jobarteh rejoins this forum, then I can
> >shed light more light on this. At least, when I write, I use my real
names.
> >
> >Anyway, Gambia L, expect my reaction tommorrow. This is an era of truth
and
> >clarity.
> >
> >Ebrima Ceesay,
> >Birmingham, UK.
> >
> >
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How can the NIA free a person they didn't have in custody in the first =
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Digest this folks:
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Abdoulie Jallow
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World: Africa
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Gambian opposition man freed=20
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The Gambian security services have released an opposition =
activist, Single Nyassi, who says he was abducted from his home nearly a =
month ago.=20
Speaking to reporters after his release, Mr Nyassi -- who is =
an executive member of the opposition United Democratic Party -- said =
he'd been held by the country's intelligence agency, and had been =
deprived of food and water for several days.=20
He said he was now considering taking legal action against =
the state.=20
Mr Nyassi's release follows an order from the High Court =
earlier this month, and pressure from the European Union. No charges =
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Saiks wrote:
>Your points are well noted.What came immediately in mind is what I believed
>you wanted to say but did no say it very clear,correct me if I am wrong.And
>that is the democratic rights that was fought for and won under the new
>colonial PPP regime is not only been rolled back but that the situation is
>getting worst.>
Well, the points you raised are quite huge but I will simply say that I hold
a different view. I see great differences between the Human Rights records
of the present regime and those of former president Jawara. In my least
buoyant pessimistic(!) moments I use to tell myself that the best thing
Jawara did for Gambia was to create the conditions that made possible the
rise of PDOIS!!!!! I consider the period from Independence to July 1994 to
constitute the length of our "Year Zero".
President Jammeh, in spite of his darkening Human Rights record, is also
doing the sort of things that will quicken his own doom - unless he learns
to ignore UDP propaganda, respects the Constitution in letter and spirit,
and concentrates on the task of nation-building.
Cheers,
Momodou S Sidibeh.
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:46:14 -0400
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Organization: Miami University
Subject: The Foreign Policy of Gambia since the coup:1994-9
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To G-L Community:
For those of you unable to open the earlier attachment that was sent, I
am sending it via e-mail. Your comments and suggestions are always
welcome.
Gambia's Foreign Policy Since the Coup: 1994-1999
Abdoulaye Saine
Miami University
This paper analyzes Gambia's foreign policy since the 1994 coup
d'etat1 that ousted Sir Dawda Jawara, Gambia's first president
(1965-1994). The coup brought to power Lt. Yahya Jammeh who headed the
Armed Forces Provisional Ruling Council (AFPRC), from July 1994 to
September 1996 when the AFPRC was dissolved. Jammeh, who had earlier
resigned his commission, contested and won the presidential election on
September 26, 1996. Thus, attention is also paid to the policy
framework that continues to shape Gambia's foreign- policy under
Jammeh.2 Three central questions underpin this study. First, what
external policies did the AFPRC adopt to achieve its objectives?
Second, What is the foreign-policy orientation of Gambia's current
Alliance for Patriotic Reconciliation and Construction (APRC) government
and third, what effect(s) did the foreign policies of the AFPRC and the
ruling APRC government have on the national economy and Gambians?
An appraisal of the content and conduct of Gambia's foreign relations
since the coup of 1994, must of necessity, be preceded by a quick recap
of what transpired during the Jawara years (1965-1994). It is generally
agreed that the search for outside resources to maintain domestic power
structures was central to the foreign policies of the great majority of
African states.3 The way in which this search was conducted, however,
varied appreciably according to the nature of the governments concerned
and the domestic and external threats they faced. At independence in
1965 and until the coup in 1994, Gambia's foreign policy was driven by
two overarching objectives. First has been the desire to maintain
sovereign statehood for the territory within the context of a perceived
potential threat of assimilation by neighboring Senegal.4 The second had
to do with attracting external economic resources to support the Peoples
Progressive Party (PPP) government's development agenda as well as help
enrich Gambia's political and bureaucratic class. In so doing, the PPP
government under Jawara succeeded in attracting considerable economic
and political support from the outside, principally because of his
pro-Western, anti-Communist and strong human rights record. Also,
Gambia's cordial relations with oil-rich Arab and Gulf states proved
financially rewarding in Jawara's bid to diversify Gambia's funding
sources in order to reduce the country's dependence on the UK.
Gambia's relations with its all encompassing neighbor, Senegal, have
occupied center stage since independence in 1965. It is a relationship
often characterized by periods of relative calm and turbulence,
cooperation as in the now defunct Senegambia Confederation and border
closures to stem Gambia's re-export trade into Senegal and neighboring
states. A UN report prior to independence suggested several possible
strategies that ranged from total integration into Senegal to proposals
for a monetary and customs union.5 In the immediate aftermath of the
1981 aborted coup led by Kukoi Samba Sanyang, Gambia agreed to join
Senegal in a loose confederation, which Senegal hoped would lead
ultimately to full political union. The confederation was however
marred from the outset by Gambian fears of being disadvantaged and the
Confederation's "shot gun-wedding" character.6 The Confederation ended
in 1989; in particular, over the issue of a rotating presidency, which
Jawara would have liked, but which Abdou Diouf of Senegal opposed.
Predictably, with the 1994 coup against Jawara, Senegal refused to
intervene but offered the ex-president and his entourage political
asylum immediately. In fact, poor relations with Senegal after 1989 and
in particular, Senegal's border closure contributed partly to both the
cause and success of the coup. The immediate causes of the coup
however, lie more concretely in the social, political, class and
generational problems that built up in the long years of PPP rule and
within the army as well.7
Reviewing Gambia's political history under Jawara indeed resembles a
plateau occasionally marred by volcanic eruptions. The general image,
as projected perhaps too often to the world outside, was of a mini-state
adept at survival, able in spite of underdevelopment to run an open
society with a multiparty democracy and encapsulating both the problems
and opportunities of small states.8 In this picture the putsch in 1981
and for that matter, the coup of 1994 were potrayed as aberrations. On
the economic front, despite years of claimed economic success, Gambia
under Jawara continued to have one of the lowest living standards in the
continent and ranked 166th in the world out of 173 countries according
to the UNDP Human Development Index.9 In spite of very generous
financial assistance after the 1981 attempted coup, approximately 60 per
cent of Gambia's population still live under the poverty line. Thus,
Gambia's paradox under Jawara lay in the fact that here was a mini-state
whose viability at independence was in question and in spite of the odds
managed to build a relatively open economy and a functioning democracy,
but with a very low level of development.10 Clearly, while part of the
problem lay in elite corruption and enrichment, the overriding cause
more generally, was the poor performance of public institutions.
Regionally, Jawara maintained good relations with neighboring states
and as an elder statesman, sought to resolve the Liberia conflict. At
the continental level Gambia under Jawara supported the OAU and its
efforts to end racism and apartheid in South Africa. What at first
started out as good relations with Libya quickly deteriorated in the
early 1980's because of Gadaffi's support of Kukoi Samba Sanyang, who
led the unsuccessful coup attempt against Jawara in 1981. By the time
he was overthrown, Jawara was acclaimed internationally for his
commitment to human rights, democracy and the rule of law especially
within the Commonwealth. Consequently, the condemnation and the
subsequent sanctions imposed by the West and Western institutions on the
AFPRC following his ouster, was to have a chilling effect on the coup
and Gambia's economy.
The AFPRC's External Policy Pronouncements: 1994-1996
The central preoccupation of the AFPRC following the coup was the
need to ensure Gambia's economic survival in the face of mounting
Western displeasure and threats of economic sanctions. These threats
were not taken lightly by the AFPRC, understandably. The fact that 80
per cent of Gambia's national development budget was at the time funded
by the EU, Japan, the UK and international financial institutions meant
that the severing of aid would have disastrous economic and social
consequences. Until 1972, Britain provided the bulk of foreign
financial assistance to Gambia and by 1981, EU aid to Gambia rose from
$0.5m in 1976 to $13m, making it the largest multilateral donor in that
period. Although the volume of aid declined in subsequent years, the EU
maintained its lead as Gambia's principal multilateral donor until
1986.11 In that year, the International Development Agency, a World
Bank affiliate took the leading position. Between 1987-1990 EU's
assistance to Gambia amounted to some $30m. A large part of this came
in the form of balance of payments assistance.
Furthermore, US withdrawal of $10m in aid coupled with Japan's and
the UNDP's freezing of all development aid, meant that Gambia's external
reserves, scant as they were, would become a major source for financing
the balance of payments deficit. A British Foreign Office "travel
advice" on November 23,1994, four months after the coup, that "Banjul is
calm but the political situation in The Gambia remains uncertain and
could deteriorate quickly" literally gutted the tourist industry.12
This travel advice was quickly followed by similar Swedish and Danish
announcements cautioning potential tourists not to visit Gambia, because
of political instability. Since the mid-1970's, tourism had become
Gambia's main source of foreign exchange and constituted 12 percent of
GDP. It employed approximately 10,000 workers many of whom were heads
of households supporting on average ten individuals.
Combined Western sanctions came into effect in November, following
the failed coup attempt on November 11,1994 in which as many as 30
soldiers were said to have been summarily executed. Also, the dismissal
of Bakary Dabo, allegedly for his involvement in the foiled coup,
triggered a swift and severe Western reaction.13 Dabo, who was at one
time Jawara's minister of finance, also held the same portfolio in the
new regime. He subsequently fled the country out of fear for his life.
The EU froze all balance of payments support, followed by the suspension
of all but humanitarian aid by the US and Japan, pending the
announcement of a program to return the country to democratic rule.
With sanctions in place, government coffers were quickly being depleted
with reverberating effects on the average Gambian's standard of living.
The failed coup attempt combined with Western sanctions to create an
atmosphere of growing AFPRC insecurity domestically.
Consequently, the first reaction to suspend bilateral aid and balance
of payments assistance provoked two main reactions. The first was a
defensive reaction from the AFPRC itself that "with or without aid, The
Gambia would maintain an independent state, run by Gambians in the
interest of Gambians." 14 The second came generally from government
officials and the public at large, who felt that the sanctions were
unjustifiable. All however, were concerned with Gambia's economic
future in the face of these sanctions. The sanctions also had the
immediate effect of potentially affecting the projects outlined in the
development programs of the transition period. Indirectly, they led to
lower tax revenue for the AFPRC, due in part to dislocation of trade
caused by foreign currency shortage. Jammeh criticized the IMF and
World Bank for the negative effects structural adjustment had on
Gambia's poor and vowed that the burden of such policies would no longer
be borne by the poor alone, but by the rich as well. He also rejected
forthwith the linkage between Western aid resumption to Jawara's return
to Gambia. He castigated Jawara for presiding over a democracy defined
by corruption and promised to recover money embezzled by officials of
the previous regime.
Perhaps the earliest and most significant demonstration of goodwill
toward the AFPRC came from Libya. Following the withdrawal of Western
bilateral aid in November 1994, Libya stepped into the void with a $15m
grant.15 In November 1994 full diplomatic relations with Libya were
restored after 15 years of hostile relations between Jawara and
Gadaffi. Chinese support and goodwill in the form of a $23m grant for
agriculture followed. Chinese assistance was to cease immediately,
however, following the AFPRC's resumption of diplomatic relations with
Taiwan on July 13, 1995, after a 21year break.16 The Jawara government
had earlier in 1968 established diplomatic relations with Taiwan, but
broke them off in 1974 in favor of China. Outraged by the APRC policy
change, China severed relations with Gambia on July 25, 1995. Since
then, Taiwan has been a staunch supporter of the AFPRC and the
subsequent APRC government with an initial loan of $35m.17 Today,
Taiwanese aid has totaled about $80m. Clearly, because of ongoing
difficulties with the mainland, Taiwan has tried to make friends and win
support for its position internationally. The AFPRC's efforts to make
friends and hence, end growing international isolation also led to the
dispatching of several government delegations to Nigeria, Sierra Leone
with Jammeh making his first trip to Senegal on September 22, 1994 to
meet with President Diouf.18 Diouf promised support for the new regime
aware of Jammeh's potential role and future involvement in the civil war
in Senegal's northern province of Cassamance. Senegal's border closure
before the coup, together with the impact of Western sanctions was
already putting a suffocating squeeze on Gambia's economy.19
At this point Nigeria became Gambia's benefactor and proved critical
to the survival of Gambia's economy. Surrounded by Senegal and other
French-speaking countries, Gambia has maintained warm and cordial
relations with its larger and more populous protector. With the demise
of the Senegambian Confederation in 1989, president Jawara sought and
received protection from the military president of Nigeria, General
Ibrahim Babangida. Subsequent to the coup in 1994, Jammeh inherited and
strengthened relations with Nigeria and became the protégé and ally of
the late Nigerian president, General Sani Abacha. In fact, Jammeh cut
short a regional tour to Mauritania, Cape Verde and Guinea on learning
of Abacha's death in June 1998. Jammeh maintained good relations with
Nigeria's military president and successor to the late Abacha, General
Abdusalam Abubakar, who visited Gambia in early 1999. With Nigeria's
new civilian government now in power, it is doubtful if such relations
with president Obasanjo will continue. Since coming to power in early
June, Obasanjo has begun a purge of many senior military officers in
Nigeria's army.
The severe reduction and in some cases the freezing of aid compelled
the Jammeh regime to seek alternative sources of development funding and
keep the economy afloat. In January 1995, Jammeh held talks with
President Joao Bernardo Vieira of Guinea-Bissau and held similar
meetings with Strasser of Sierra Leone and Rawlings of Ghana. A visit
to Mauritania in the summer of 1995 and various delegations to Egypt and
Nigeria and promises of financial support and cooperation eased at least
temporarily AFPRC isolation. At the same time however, Western pressure
to hand power over to a civilian government was mounting and the
sanctions were by now having a detrimental effect by way of sluggish
business activity.
By the end of November 1994, four months after the coup, Jammeh
announced at a rally in Banjul, the capital, that the AFPRC would return
the country to civilian rule in December 1998 after free presidential
elections. This meant the AFPRC would be in office for a little over
four years and five months. The length of the transition was condemned
both nationally and internationally. Chief Emeka Anyaoku, the
Commonwealth Secretary-General, issued a statement in London rejecting
the four-year delay as "unacceptable" and called for elections within
three to six months. Aware of mounting domestic and international
pressure against the four-year timetable and upon the recommendation of
the National Consultative Commission (NCC), the AFPRC agreed to a
two-year timetable to culminate in presidential elections in June 1996.
The AFPRC however, rejected the NCC's proposal for an interim civilian
government to be headed by Dr. Wally Ndow, a UN official or Dr. Lamin
Sanneh, a Yale University professor of religion.
Following the two-year term limit announcement, AFPRC foreign
relations assumed a more aggressive stance with Jammeh visiting Egypt on
June 11-12, 1995 where he met President Mubarak and PLO leader Yasser
Arafat. At the 31st Summit of the OAU heads of state meeting in Addis
Ababa, Jammeh pledged to pay in full, Gambia's overdue contributions to
the organization. This earned him needed recognition. But perhaps the
regime scored its greatest success in its foreign relations, when it
succeeded in July of 1995, in hosting President Rawlings of Ghana as the
guest of honor during the first anniversary of the coup. Also, the
official opening of the mosque at the State House, later that summer by
the Imam of Mecca, had an important symbolic effect on a predominantly
Muslim country, in addition to cultivating support and goodwill with the
oil-rich Arab and Gulf States. In time, the AFPRC cultivated and
maintained cordial relations with these states and in August 1996, Iran
pledged to improve relations with Gambia and to cooperate in agriculture
and fishing sectors. It appears that by the time the AFPRC celebrated
its second year in office in July 1996, it had succeeded in spite of the
sanctions, to make friends and earn the financial support it needed to
undertake its development projects. A $20m loan from the Africa
Development Bank to refurbish Banjul's international airport is a case
in point. This was indicative of the slow but growing acceptance of the
regime in some circles, in part because of its putative objective to
improving living conditions for the average Gambian. A visit by
President Abdou Diouf of Senegal earlier in January, was also a sign of
Senegal's approval, perhaps apprehensiveness of the AFPRC. The
resumption of some financial aid from the West, in preparation for the
impending presidential elections now slated for September 1996,
suggested some shelter from the storm. In fact, during his address at
the second July 22 celebration of the coup and two months before the
elections, Jammeh singled out Taiwan, Egypt, Libya, Nigeria, Sierra
Leone, Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia as "true friends." He also
spoke warmly of the improved relations with Senegal.20
In retrospect, it seems that the AFPRC succeeded in maintaining the
economy, albeit marginally with funds made available by friends. In
fact, by March 1996, Gambia's external reserves stood at $112m compared
with $90m at the end of June 1995. The generally held belief that the
economy would ultimately collapse in the face of reduced development
aid, balance of payments support and reduced revenue because of the
British travel advice, was in reality, not realized.21 While all these
were inevitably affected, Gambia's macro-economic framework under the
supervision of Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance averted major
economic dislocation. That the AFPRC initiated several development
projects including two high schools, a hospital in Farafenni etc. and
raised salaries was indeed remarkable given the adverse international
environment.
The consequences of donor sanctions were far-reaching, nonetheless.
They undermined business confidence and activity, created mass
unemployment in tourism and raised the price of essential commodities.
Personal income, not even to speak of government and corporate revenue
plummeted. It is estimated that the sanctions resulted in a $100m loss
in aid and approximately $10m in direct foreign investment by the end of
1995. While the sanctions targeted the AFPRC, in hindsight it hurt the
average Gambian economically. Economic sanctions, as other countries
like Iraq and Libya suggest do not bring about the intended political
changes in leadership. If anything, they tend to worsen the hardship
among the poor and vulnerable in the population.
The APRC and Gambia's Foreign Policy: 1996-
1999
Gambia's transition to "civilian" rule culminated in the election of
retired Captain Yahya Jammeh as president of the Second Republic on
September 26, 1996 and the holding of National Assembly elections on
January 2, 1997.22 Jammeh resigned his commission shortly before the
presidential election, formed the APRC party and tilted the rules to
favor him after having banned his major political opponents.
Predictably, the Commonwealth condemned both the results and the process
in which all the major contestants were excluded from participation.
Jammeh responded "that the West wanted democracy to be restored in
Gambia. Now they have it and as an added bonus an olive branch to
march." He further argued that there was no reason to ostracize the
regime and no justification for maintaining the economic sanctions on
the country. In early November 1996, Libya expressed strong support for
the new government and urged Gambians to "live in dignity and freedom
under its youthful revolution." Thereafter, Jammeh paid a four-day
visit to Libya and in a communiqué called on OAU member states to work
together and called for the end "to unjust sanctions imposed on the
Libyan people." In January 22, 1997, Taiwan announced a $411,500 grant
to enable the Jammeh government pay the salaries of Cuban, Nigerian and
Egyptian doctors and healthcare workers. Aware of the fact that his
regime was not looked upon favorably by its main aid donors, Jammeh was
bent on cultivating productive alliances and support elsewhere. He made
several trips to the Middleast and performed the pilgrimage to Mecca in
1997. Thus, with Jammeh in power and control over the National
Assembly, the APRC's diplomatic flurry sought to consolidate
pre-election friendships and the creation of new ones. In fact,
Jammeh's wedding to an Algerian national in early 1999 strengthened
further Gambia's relations with Algeria.
The meeting in Gambia on September 11, 1997 of the nine member
countries of the Permanent Interstate Committee on Drought Control in
the Sahel (CILSS), accorded the new regime much needed recognition and
prestige regionally. Serving as the CILSS current Chairman gave Jammeh
a forum to showcase his development programs, especially the newly
refurbished airport and new television station. The APRC gained more
international recognition when Gambia became a non-permanent member of
the UN Security Council on January 2, 1998 for a two-year term. Jammeh
has used his newly found status to support friends like Taiwan, Libya
and Iraq. On May 14, 1998, Iraq's foreign minister visited Gambia to
seek help in fighting UN imposed sanctions. Similarly, Jammeh has
called for the end of UN imposed sanctions against Libya at the OAU and
the UN respectively. It appears that Jammeh's international image is
improving with Gambia's presence in the Security Council. In February,
1998 Jammeh paid visits to France and Italy, chaired the UN Security
Council in March and held talks with leaders in Saudi Arabia, Iraq and
Nigeria in April and May. Regionally, Jammeh's government successfully
mediated the conflict in Guinea- Bissau. This was a major
accomplishment. The APRC has also offered its good offices in the civil
war between Senegal's government and the rebels of the Movement for a
Democratic Casamance (MFDC). Clearly, this has enhanced Jammeh's sense
of confidence. Thus, Jammeh like Jawara before him has emerged as a
peace broker in part to ward off these conflicts from destabilizing his
regime. Already, Gambia is home to over 10,000 refugees from Senegal's
neighboring province of Casamance, Guinea- Bissau and Sierra-Leone. The
need to attract foreign resources to support his development agenda at
home and maintain Gambia's territorial integrity are the driving forces
for Jammeh's numerous missions abroad. This is a paradox however,
because this is an issue that he consistently criticized ex-president
Jawara for, after the coup.
Gambia's foreign policy successes are also attributable to a cadre
of seasoned career diplomats, notwithstanding the frequent changes at
the foreign minister level. Since the coup, Bolong Sonko, Baboucarr
Blaise Jagne, Omar Njie and its current holder, Lamin Sedat Jobe, an
official at UNESCO, have held this position. Together, they have given
leadership, coherence and direction to Gambia's foreign relations. The
appointment of seasoned diplomats like Njogu Bah, who serves as
Ambassador to France is indicative of France's growing importance and
source of support for Gambia. Bah, who studied in Dakar and France,
respectively, first served as Ambassador to Senegal and is also
accredited to several European countries. Ex-minister Sonko has since
joined the major opposition party, the United Democratic Party (UDP) and
Jagne now serves as Gambia's representative to the UN. As in most
countries, Ambassadorial appointments under Jammeh have often been
political. The accreditation of Crispin Grey-Johnson as Ambassador to
Washington was greeted with enthusiasm. Though not a career diplomat,
Johnson, by most accounts performed well as Ambassador. As of this
writing, he has been recalled to Gambia with the official reason that
his two-year term was up and was needed elsewhere.
Yet, it seems likely that Gambia's increasingly activist foreign
policy may begin to restore the goodwill of its main donors and reverse
what once was an antagonistic relationship. This is precisely what
appears to be happening. After almost a four- year absence, the World
Bank has resumed lending to Gambia with an initial loan of $18m in April
1998. The IMF at the end of June 1998 also approved a three-year loan
to the regime under an enhanced structural adjustment facility (ESAF) of
$27m. The UNDP and the US have resumed some aid. The EU has also
promised aid to the tune of $100m over a three-year period. The
African Development Bank also made an additional $13m loan in 1998 to
compliment the $14m in aid given in 1997. The money would be used to
improve health services, population and poverty reduction measures.
While some major Western donors have resumed aid it is yet to reach
pre-coup levels. Jammeh's commitment to democracy and human rights will
be the basis upon which Western aid and support will be continued. Yet,
with tourist bookings approximating pre-coup levels, the economy could
get a shot in the arm. These loans and added revenue could give the
regime the needed stamp of approval to attract more loans and support.
Also, the resumption of aid to almost pre-coup levels and relations with
Senegal improving, Gambia's re-export trade could get a new leash on
life. Jammeh's conciliatory gesture to the diplomatic Community in
Gambia in January 1998 seeks to forge a "new era of partnership and
cooperation." In spite of the resumption of some aid and returning
tourists however, the economy remains vulnerable to external shocks. The
APRC's growing repression of opposition leaders, parties and the press
could deteriorate into instability with potential spillover into the
army and civil society. It seems the donor community will keep a
watchful eye over Jammeh's commitment to principles of good governance
and human rights.
Conclusion
In conclusion, Gambia' s foreign policy since the coup d'etat of 1994
has been remarkably innovative and effective in attracting needed funds
from alternative sources abroad to support domestic programs. Jammeh
and his ministers wasted little time in cultivating new friendships and
consolidating old alliances outside the Western sphere of influence.
Thus, following the coup AFPRC policy had the dual objective of making
friends and securing alternative sources of financial assistance. In so
doing, AFPRC policy succeeded partly in circumventing growing
international isolation and the negative impact of Western imposed
economic sanctions. Under the APRC, Gambia's foreign policy also has a
dual strategy of appeasing the West and lending institutions in order to
attract needed funds, and support for so-called "rouge" states like
Libya and Iraq. Gambia's non-permanent membership of the UN Security
Council however, broadened the scope and conduct of its increasingly
activist foreign policy. This engendered a growing sense of confidence
for the president, leading him to play an important role in conflict
mediation and resolution, regionally and internationally. Gambia's
growing activist foreign policy has also begun a gradual reversal of
Western imposed economic sanctions and Gambia's international
isolation. The combined roles of the President as peace broker and
fundraiser underscore the two central objectives that have driven
Gambia's foreign policy historically, i.e., territorial independence and
procurement of external financial resources for internal development and
regime legitimization purposes. In this regard, Gambia's foreign
relations have remained remarkably consistent since independence. This
is what links Jammeh to Jawara and explains to some extent why both men
use(ed) foreign travel in part, to fulfill these dual national
objectives. The fates of geopolitics and limited resource endowments
have conspired to keep it this way. Future presidents are not likely to
deviate significantly from this trodden path.
Perhaps this realization coupled with Jammeh's slow, albeit,
growing acceptance in the international community has led him to temper
his once defiant and defensive posture toward the West. He has as a
result become more concilliatory like Jawara before him in order to gain
Western support and financial assistance with occasional criticism of
the West. However, this changed behavior or strategy has not
necessarily led to full resumption of aid. Jammeh therefore, finds
himself in a difficult mediator role as he seeks to balance Western
capitalist interests, adverse effects of structural adjustment, on one
hand and the welfare of a poor and growing population, on the other.
This systemic tension, perhaps conflict, is likely to sow the seeds of
discontent and instability in the army and civil society. Coups and
counter coups in Africa and in Ghana for example, have in part, been the
consequence of regime inability to mediate this conflict. While
Gambia's foreign policy under the AFPRC and APRC succeeded in attracting
external financial assistance, the question remains if this would
translate into tangible welfare improvements and benefits for Gambians.
Foreign policy under Jawara successful as it was, marginally improved
the lives of Gambia's poor. And notwithstanding APRC projects and the
good intentions of the donor and lending community, the logic of IMF and
World Bank structural adjustment policies and lending, in general, tend
to put in place a good macro-economic framework but often fail to
ameliorate or reduce poverty levels.
Jammeh's role(s) and skills as a regional conflict mediator and
between Western capital and domestic welfare needs, must be extended to
negotiate the crisis in the domestic political domain. The current rift
between the regime and opposition political parties and leaders must be
resolved to pre-empt a quickly deteriorating political atmosphere.
Political space must be provided these leaders and parties to enable
them to engage effectively in the political process. Political
repression and human rights abuses only delay temporarily the quest for
freedom, participation and accountability. A threshold is finally
reached when repression may not necessarily engender compliance. What
is needed is political "Vision 20/20" to complement its predecessor
(economic) "Vision 20/20." Jammeh's commitment to human rights and
democratic principles will be the basis upon which Western aid and
support will be continued. The appeal by Jammeh to traditional African
principles and practices of democracy as possible alternatives to a more
inclusive and participatory type democracy, are not likely to bring aid
to pre-coup levels. Insistence by Jammeh on maintaining the status quo
may not in the end elicit desirable outcomes. Consequently, an enabling
political and economic environment that has at its root individual
freedoms and opportunity for self- improvement, especially for women and
the rural poor must accompany this. Despite some obvious flaws, Vision
20/20 is a good start in this direction.23 These strategies combined
could go a long way in releasing and further developing both the
creative and entrepreneurial qualities of Gambians. However, when
stifled they deepen underdevelopment and mediocrity and no amount of
external funding or successful foreign policy per se, can begin to
reverse this process.
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Mr.Saine,
Your analysis is quite comprehensive. Thanks for sharing it with us.
I just wanted to point out a couple tings.
First, you failed to elaborate on the governments' role in brokering =
peace in Guinea Bissau as a major score in it's foreign relations game.
Secondly, you are a bit lenient with regards to Jammeh's relationship =
with defiant nations like Libya, Iran, Sudan, Iraq and Cuba. Especially =
his numerous trips to Libya in defiance of UN sanctions.
On another note, I believe Jammehs' new wife is Morrocan, not Algerian =
as you mentioned. I may be wrong on this.
Thanks for sharing.
Abdoulie Jallow
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From: Abdoulaye Saine <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: Monday, June 21, 1999 8:50 PM
Subject: The Foreign Policy of Gambia since the coup:1994-9
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To G-L Community:
For those of you unable to open the earlier attachment that was =
sent, I
am sending it via e-mail. Your comments and suggestions are always
welcome.
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Gambia's Foreign Policy Since the Coup: 1994-1999
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Abdoulaye Saine
Miami University
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This paper analyzes Gambia's foreign policy since the 1994 coup
d'etat1 that ousted Sir Dawda Jawara, Gambia's first president
(1965-1994). The coup brought to power Lt. Yahya Jammeh who headed =
the
Armed Forces Provisional Ruling Council (AFPRC), from July 1994 to
September 1996 when the AFPRC was dissolved. Jammeh, who had =
earlier
resigned his commission, contested and won the presidential election =
on
September 26, 1996. Thus, attention is also paid to the policy
framework that continues to shape Gambia's foreign- policy under
Jammeh.2 Three central questions underpin this study. First, what
external policies did the AFPRC adopt to achieve its objectives?
Second, What is the foreign-policy orientation of Gambia's current
Alliance for Patriotic Reconciliation and Construction (APRC) =
government
and third, what effect(s) did the foreign policies of the AFPRC and =
the
ruling APRC government have on the national economy and Gambians?
An appraisal of the content and conduct of Gambia's foreign =
relations
since the coup of 1994, must of necessity, be preceded by a quick =
recap
of what transpired during the Jawara years (1965-1994). It is =
generally
agreed that the search for outside resources to maintain domestic =
power
structures was central to the foreign policies of the great majority =
of
African states.3 The way in which this search was conducted, =
however,
varied appreciably according to the nature of the governments =
concerned
and the domestic and external threats they faced. At independence =
in
1965 and until the coup in 1994, Gambia's foreign policy was driven =
by
two overarching objectives. First has been the desire to maintain
sovereign statehood for the territory within the context of a =
perceived
potential threat of assimilation by neighboring Senegal.4 The second =
had
to do with attracting external economic resources to support the =
Peoples
Progressive Party (PPP) government's development agenda as well as =
help
enrich Gambia's political and bureaucratic class. In so doing, the =
PPP
government under Jawara succeeded in attracting considerable =
economic
and political support from the outside, principally because of his
pro-Western, anti-Communist and strong human rights record. Also,
Gambia's cordial relations with oil-rich Arab and Gulf states proved
financially rewarding in Jawara's bid to diversify Gambia's funding
sources in order to reduce the country's dependence on the UK.
Gambia's relations with its all encompassing neighbor, Senegal, =
have
occupied center stage since independence in 1965. It is a =
relationship
often characterized by periods of relative calm and turbulence,
cooperation as in the now defunct Senegambia Confederation and =
border
closures to stem Gambia's re-export trade into Senegal and =
neighboring
states. A UN report prior to independence suggested several =
possible
strategies that ranged from total integration into Senegal to =
proposals
for a monetary and customs union.5 In the immediate aftermath of =
the
1981 aborted coup led by Kukoi Samba Sanyang, Gambia agreed to join
Senegal in a loose confederation, which Senegal hoped would lead
ultimately to full political union. The confederation was however
marred from the outset by Gambian fears of being disadvantaged and =
the
Confederation's "shot gun-wedding" character.6 The Confederation =
ended
in 1989; in particular, over the issue of a rotating presidency, =
which
Jawara would have liked, but which Abdou Diouf of Senegal opposed.
Predictably, with the 1994 coup against Jawara, Senegal refused to
intervene but offered the ex-president and his entourage political
asylum immediately. In fact, poor relations with Senegal after 1989 =
and
in particular, Senegal's border closure contributed partly to both =
the
cause and success of the coup. The immediate causes of the coup
however, lie more concretely in the social, political, class and
generational problems that built up in the long years of PPP rule =
and
within the army as well.7
Reviewing Gambia's political history under Jawara indeed =
resembles a
plateau occasionally marred by volcanic eruptions. The general =
image,
as projected perhaps too often to the world outside, was of a =
mini-state
adept at survival, able in spite of underdevelopment to run an open
society with a multiparty democracy and encapsulating both the =
problems
and opportunities of small states.8 In this picture the putsch in =
1981
and for that matter, the coup of 1994 were potrayed as aberrations. =
On
the economic front, despite years of claimed economic success, =
Gambia
under Jawara continued to have one of the lowest living standards in =
the
continent and ranked 166th in the world out of 173 countries =
according
to the UNDP Human Development Index.9 In spite of very generous
financial assistance after the 1981 attempted coup, approximately 60 =
per
cent of Gambia's population still live under the poverty line. Thus,
Gambia's paradox under Jawara lay in the fact that here was a =
mini-state
whose viability at independence was in question and in spite of the =
odds
managed to build a relatively open economy and a functioning =
democracy,
but with a very low level of development.10 Clearly, while part of =
the
problem lay in elite corruption and enrichment, the overriding cause
more generally, was the poor performance of public institutions.
Regionally, Jawara maintained good relations with neighboring =
states
and as an elder statesman, sought to resolve the Liberia conflict. =
At
the continental level Gambia under Jawara supported the OAU and its
efforts to end racism and apartheid in South Africa. What at first
started out as good relations with Libya quickly deteriorated in the
early 1980's because of Gadaffi's support of Kukoi Samba Sanyang, =
who
led the unsuccessful coup attempt against Jawara in 1981. By the =
time
he was overthrown, Jawara was acclaimed internationally for his
commitment to human rights, democracy and the rule of law especially
within the Commonwealth. Consequently, the condemnation and the
subsequent sanctions imposed by the West and Western institutions on =
the
AFPRC following his ouster, was to have a chilling effect on the =
coup
and Gambia's economy.
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The AFPRC's External Policy Pronouncements: 1994-1996
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The central preoccupation of the AFPRC following the coup was the
need to ensure Gambia's economic survival in the face of mounting
Western displeasure and threats of economic sanctions. These =
threats
were not taken lightly by the AFPRC, understandably. The fact that =
80
per cent of Gambia's national development budget was at the time =
funded
by the EU, Japan, the UK and international financial institutions =
meant
that the severing of aid would have disastrous economic and social
consequences. Until 1972, Britain provided the bulk of foreign
financial assistance to Gambia and by 1981, EU aid to Gambia rose =
from
$0.5m in 1976 to $13m, making it the largest multilateral donor in =
that
period. Although the volume of aid declined in subsequent years, =
the EU
maintained its lead as Gambia's principal multilateral donor until
1986.11 In that year, the International Development Agency, a World
Bank affiliate took the leading position. Between 1987-1990 EU's
assistance to Gambia amounted to some $30m. A large part of this =
came
in the form of balance of payments assistance.
Furthermore, US withdrawal of $10m in aid coupled with Japan's =
and
the UNDP's freezing of all development aid, meant that Gambia's =
external
reserves, scant as they were, would become a major source for =
financing
the balance of payments deficit. A British Foreign Office "travel
advice" on November 23,1994, four months after the coup, that =
"Banjul is
calm but the political situation in The Gambia remains uncertain and
could deteriorate quickly" literally gutted the tourist industry.12
This travel advice was quickly followed by similar Swedish and =
Danish
announcements cautioning potential tourists not to visit Gambia, =
because
of political instability. Since the mid-1970's, tourism had become
Gambia's main source of foreign exchange and constituted 12 percent =
of
GDP. It employed approximately 10,000 workers many of whom were =
heads
of households supporting on average ten individuals.
Combined Western sanctions came into effect in November, =
following
the failed coup attempt on November 11,1994 in which as many as 30
soldiers were said to have been summarily executed. Also, the =
dismissal
of Bakary Dabo, allegedly for his involvement in the foiled coup,
triggered a swift and severe Western reaction.13 Dabo, who was at =
one
time Jawara's minister of finance, also held the same portfolio in =
the
new regime. He subsequently fled the country out of fear for his =
life.
The EU froze all balance of payments support, followed by the =
suspension
of all but humanitarian aid by the US and Japan, pending the
announcement of a program to return the country to democratic rule.
With sanctions in place, government coffers were quickly being =
depleted
with reverberating effects on the average Gambian's standard of =
living.
The failed coup attempt combined with Western sanctions to create an
atmosphere of growing AFPRC insecurity domestically.
Consequently, the first reaction to suspend bilateral aid and =
balance
of payments assistance provoked two main reactions. The first was a
defensive reaction from the AFPRC itself that "with or without aid, =
The
Gambia would maintain an independent state, run by Gambians in the
interest of Gambians." 14 The second came generally from government
officials and the public at large, who felt that the sanctions were
unjustifiable. All however, were concerned with Gambia's economic
future in the face of these sanctions. The sanctions also had the
immediate effect of potentially affecting the projects outlined in =
the
development programs of the transition period. Indirectly, they led =
to
lower tax revenue for the AFPRC, due in part to dislocation of trade
caused by foreign currency shortage. Jammeh criticized the IMF and
World Bank for the negative effects structural adjustment had on
Gambia's poor and vowed that the burden of such policies would no =
longer
be borne by the poor alone, but by the rich as well. He also =
rejected
forthwith the linkage between Western aid resumption to Jawara's =
return
to Gambia. He castigated Jawara for presiding over a democracy =
defined
by corruption and promised to recover money embezzled by officials =
of
the previous regime.
Perhaps the earliest and most significant demonstration of =
goodwill
toward the AFPRC came from Libya. Following the withdrawal of =
Western
bilateral aid in November 1994, Libya stepped into the void with a =
$15m
grant.15 In November 1994 full diplomatic relations with Libya were
restored after 15 years of hostile relations between Jawara and
Gadaffi. Chinese support and goodwill in the form of a $23m grant =
for
agriculture followed. Chinese assistance was to cease immediately,
however, following the AFPRC's resumption of diplomatic relations =
with
Taiwan on July 13, 1995, after a 21year break.16 The Jawara =
government
had earlier in 1968 established diplomatic relations with Taiwan, =
but
broke them off in 1974 in favor of China. Outraged by the APRC =
policy
change, China severed relations with Gambia on July 25, 1995. Since
then, Taiwan has been a staunch supporter of the AFPRC and the
subsequent APRC government with an initial loan of $35m.17 Today,
Taiwanese aid has totaled about $80m. Clearly, because of ongoing
difficulties with the mainland, Taiwan has tried to make friends and =
win
support for its position internationally. The AFPRC's efforts to =
make
friends and hence, end growing international isolation also led to =
the
dispatching of several government delegations to Nigeria, Sierra =
Leone
with Jammeh making his first trip to Senegal on September 22, 1994 =
to
meet with President Diouf.18 Diouf promised support for the new =
regime
aware of Jammeh's potential role and future involvement in the civil =
war
in Senegal's northern province of Cassamance. Senegal's border =
closure
before the coup, together with the impact of Western sanctions was
already putting a suffocating squeeze on Gambia's economy.19
At this point Nigeria became Gambia's benefactor and proved =
critical
to the survival of Gambia's economy. Surrounded by Senegal and =
other
French-speaking countries, Gambia has maintained warm and cordial
relations with its larger and more populous protector. With the =
demise
of the Senegambian Confederation in 1989, president Jawara sought =
and
received protection from the military president of Nigeria, General
Ibrahim Babangida. Subsequent to the coup in 1994, Jammeh inherited =
and
strengthened relations with Nigeria and became the prot=E9g=E9 and =
ally of
the late Nigerian president, General Sani Abacha. In fact, Jammeh =
cut
short a regional tour to Mauritania, Cape Verde and Guinea on =
learning
of Abacha's death in June 1998. Jammeh maintained good relations =
with
Nigeria's military president and successor to the late Abacha, =
General
Abdusalam Abubakar, who visited Gambia in early 1999. With =
Nigeria's
new civilian government now in power, it is doubtful if such =
relations
with president Obasanjo will continue. Since coming to power in =
early
June, Obasanjo has begun a purge of many senior military officers in
Nigeria's army.
The severe reduction and in some cases the freezing of aid =
compelled
the Jammeh regime to seek alternative sources of development funding =
and
keep the economy afloat. In January 1995, Jammeh held talks with
President Joao Bernardo Vieira of Guinea-Bissau and held similar
meetings with Strasser of Sierra Leone and Rawlings of Ghana. A =
visit
to Mauritania in the summer of 1995 and various delegations to Egypt =
and
Nigeria and promises of financial support and cooperation eased at =
least
temporarily AFPRC isolation. At the same time however, Western =
pressure
to hand power over to a civilian government was mounting and the
sanctions were by now having a detrimental effect by way of sluggish
business activity.
By the end of November 1994, four months after the coup, Jammeh
announced at a rally in Banjul, the capital, that the AFPRC would =
return
the country to civilian rule in December 1998 after free =
presidential
elections. This meant the AFPRC would be in office for a little =
over
four years and five months. The length of the transition was =
condemned
both nationally and internationally. Chief Emeka Anyaoku, the
Commonwealth Secretary-General, issued a statement in London =
rejecting
the four-year delay as "unacceptable" and called for elections =
within
three to six months. Aware of mounting domestic and international
pressure against the four-year timetable and upon the recommendation =
of
the National Consultative Commission (NCC), the AFPRC agreed to a
two-year timetable to culminate in presidential elections in June =
1996.
The AFPRC however, rejected the NCC's proposal for an interim =
civilian
government to be headed by Dr. Wally Ndow, a UN official or Dr. =
Lamin
Sanneh, a Yale University professor of religion.
Following the two-year term limit announcement, AFPRC foreign
relations assumed a more aggressive stance with Jammeh visiting =
Egypt on
June 11-12, 1995 where he met President Mubarak and PLO leader =
Yasser
Arafat. At the 31st Summit of the OAU heads of state meeting in =
Addis
Ababa, Jammeh pledged to pay in full, Gambia's overdue contributions =
to
the organization. This earned him needed recognition. But perhaps =
the
regime scored its greatest success in its foreign relations, when it
succeeded in July of 1995, in hosting President Rawlings of Ghana as =
the
guest of honor during the first anniversary of the coup. Also, the
official opening of the mosque at the State House, later that summer =
by
the Imam of Mecca, had an important symbolic effect on a =
predominantly
Muslim country, in addition to cultivating support and goodwill with =
the
oil-rich Arab and Gulf States. In time, the AFPRC cultivated and
maintained cordial relations with these states and in August 1996, =
Iran
pledged to improve relations with Gambia and to cooperate in =
agriculture
and fishing sectors. It appears that by the time the AFPRC =
celebrated
its second year in office in July 1996, it had succeeded in spite of =
the
sanctions, to make friends and earn the financial support it needed =
to
undertake its development projects. A $20m loan from the Africa
Development Bank to refurbish Banjul's international airport is a =
case
in point. This was indicative of the slow but growing acceptance of =
the
regime in some circles, in part because of its putative objective to
improving living conditions for the average Gambian. A visit by
President Abdou Diouf of Senegal earlier in January, was also a sign =
of
Senegal's approval, perhaps apprehensiveness of the AFPRC. The
resumption of some financial aid from the West, in preparation for =
the
impending presidential elections now slated for September 1996,
suggested some shelter from the storm. In fact, during his address =
at
the second July 22 celebration of the coup and two months before the
elections, Jammeh singled out Taiwan, Egypt, Libya, Nigeria, Sierra
Leone, Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia as "true friends." He =
also
spoke warmly of the improved relations with Senegal.20
In retrospect, it seems that the AFPRC succeeded in maintaining =
the
economy, albeit marginally with funds made available by friends. In
fact, by March 1996, Gambia's external reserves stood at $112m =
compared
with $90m at the end of June 1995. The generally held belief that =
the
economy would ultimately collapse in the face of reduced development
aid, balance of payments support and reduced revenue because of the
British travel advice, was in reality, not realized.21 While all =
these
were inevitably affected, Gambia's macro-economic framework under =
the
supervision of Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance averted =
major
economic dislocation. That the AFPRC initiated several development
projects including two high schools, a hospital in Farafenni etc. =
and
raised salaries was indeed remarkable given the adverse =
international
environment.
The consequences of donor sanctions were far-reaching, =
nonetheless.
They undermined business confidence and activity, created mass
unemployment in tourism and raised the price of essential =
commodities.
Personal income, not even to speak of government and corporate =
revenue
plummeted. It is estimated that the sanctions resulted in a $100m =
loss
in aid and approximately $10m in direct foreign investment by the =
end of
1995. While the sanctions targeted the AFPRC, in hindsight it hurt =
the
average Gambian economically. Economic sanctions, as other =
countries
like Iraq and Libya suggest do not bring about the intended =
political
changes in leadership. If anything, they tend to worsen the =
hardship
among the poor and vulnerable in the population.
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The APRC and Gambia's Foreign Policy: 1996-
1999
=20
Gambia's transition to "civilian" rule culminated in the election of
retired Captain Yahya Jammeh as president of the Second Republic on
September 26, 1996 and the holding of National Assembly elections on
January 2, 1997.22 Jammeh resigned his commission shortly before =
the
presidential election, formed the APRC party and tilted the rules to
favor him after having banned his major political opponents.
Predictably, the Commonwealth condemned both the results and the =
process
in which all the major contestants were excluded from participation.
Jammeh responded "that the West wanted democracy to be restored in
Gambia. Now they have it and as an added bonus an olive branch to
march." He further argued that there was no reason to ostracize the
regime and no justification for maintaining the economic sanctions =
on
the country. In early November 1996, Libya expressed strong support =
for
the new government and urged Gambians to "live in dignity and =
freedom
under its youthful revolution." Thereafter, Jammeh paid a four-day
visit to Libya and in a communiqu=E9 called on OAU member states to =
work
together and called for the end "to unjust sanctions imposed on the
Libyan people." In January 22, 1997, Taiwan announced a $411,500 =
grant
to enable the Jammeh government pay the salaries of Cuban, Nigerian =
and
Egyptian doctors and healthcare workers. Aware of the fact that his
regime was not looked upon favorably by its main aid donors, Jammeh =
was
bent on cultivating productive alliances and support elsewhere. He =
made
several trips to the Middleast and performed the pilgrimage to Mecca =
in
1997. Thus, with Jammeh in power and control over the National
Assembly, the APRC's diplomatic flurry sought to consolidate
pre-election friendships and the creation of new ones. In fact,
Jammeh's wedding to an Algerian national in early 1999 strengthened
further Gambia's relations with Algeria.
The meeting in Gambia on September 11, 1997 of the nine member
countries of the Permanent Interstate Committee on Drought Control =
in
the Sahel (CILSS), accorded the new regime much needed recognition =
and
prestige regionally. Serving as the CILSS current Chairman gave =
Jammeh
a forum to showcase his development programs, especially the newly
refurbished airport and new television station. The APRC gained =
more
international recognition when Gambia became a non-permanent member =
of
the UN Security Council on January 2, 1998 for a two-year term. =
Jammeh
has used his newly found status to support friends like Taiwan, =
Libya
and Iraq. On May 14, 1998, Iraq's foreign minister visited Gambia =
to
seek help in fighting UN imposed sanctions. Similarly, Jammeh has
called for the end of UN imposed sanctions against Libya at the OAU =
and
the UN respectively. It appears that Jammeh's international image =
is
improving with Gambia's presence in the Security Council. In =
February,
1998 Jammeh paid visits to France and Italy, chaired the UN Security
Council in March and held talks with leaders in Saudi Arabia, Iraq =
and
Nigeria in April and May. Regionally, Jammeh's government =
successfully
mediated the conflict in Guinea- Bissau. This was a major
accomplishment. The APRC has also offered its good offices in the =
civil
war between Senegal's government and the rebels of the Movement for =
a
Democratic Casamance (MFDC). Clearly, this has enhanced Jammeh's =
sense
of confidence. Thus, Jammeh like Jawara before him has emerged as a
peace broker in part to ward off these conflicts from destabilizing =
his
regime. Already, Gambia is home to over 10,000 refugees from =
Senegal's
neighboring province of Casamance, Guinea- Bissau and Sierra-Leone. =
The
need to attract foreign resources to support his development agenda =
at
home and maintain Gambia's territorial integrity are the driving =
forces
for Jammeh's numerous missions abroad. This is a paradox however,
because this is an issue that he consistently criticized =
ex-president
Jawara for, after the coup.
Gambia's foreign policy successes are also attributable to a =
cadre
of seasoned career diplomats, notwithstanding the frequent changes =
at
the foreign minister level. Since the coup, Bolong Sonko, Baboucarr
Blaise Jagne, Omar Njie and its current holder, Lamin Sedat Jobe, an
official at UNESCO, have held this position. Together, they have =
given
leadership, coherence and direction to Gambia's foreign relations. =
The
appointment of seasoned diplomats like Njogu Bah, who serves as
Ambassador to France is indicative of France's growing importance =
and
source of support for Gambia. Bah, who studied in Dakar and France,
respectively, first served as Ambassador to Senegal and is also
accredited to several European countries. Ex-minister Sonko has =
since
joined the major opposition party, the United Democratic Party (UDP) =
and
Jagne now serves as Gambia's representative to the UN. As in most
countries, Ambassadorial appointments under Jammeh have often been
political. The accreditation of Crispin Grey-Johnson as Ambassador =
to
Washington was greeted with enthusiasm. Though not a career =
diplomat,
Johnson, by most accounts performed well as Ambassador. As of this
writing, he has been recalled to Gambia with the official reason =
that
his two-year term was up and was needed elsewhere.
Yet, it seems likely that Gambia's increasingly activist foreign
policy may begin to restore the goodwill of its main donors and =
reverse
what once was an antagonistic relationship. This is precisely what
appears to be happening. After almost a four- year absence, the =
World
Bank has resumed lending to Gambia with an initial loan of $18m in =
April
1998. The IMF at the end of June 1998 also approved a three-year =
loan
to the regime under an enhanced structural adjustment facility =
(ESAF) of
$27m. The UNDP and the US have resumed some aid. The EU has also
promised aid to the tune of $100m over a three-year period. The
African Development Bank also made an additional $13m loan in 1998 =
to
compliment the $14m in aid given in 1997. The money would be used =
to
improve health services, population and poverty reduction measures.
While some major Western donors have resumed aid it is yet to reach
pre-coup levels. Jammeh's commitment to democracy and human rights =
will
be the basis upon which Western aid and support will be continued. =
Yet,
with tourist bookings approximating pre-coup levels, the economy =
could
get a shot in the arm. These loans and added revenue could give the
regime the needed stamp of approval to attract more loans and =
support.
Also, the resumption of aid to almost pre-coup levels and relations =
with
Senegal improving, Gambia's re-export trade could get a new leash on
life. Jammeh's conciliatory gesture to the diplomatic Community in
Gambia in January 1998 seeks to forge a "new era of partnership and
cooperation." In spite of the resumption of some aid and returning
tourists however, the economy remains vulnerable to external shocks. =
The
APRC's growing repression of opposition leaders, parties and the =
press
could deteriorate into instability with potential spillover into the
army and civil society. It seems the donor community will keep a
watchful eye over Jammeh's commitment to principles of good =
governance
and human rights.
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=20
Conclusion
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In conclusion, Gambia' s foreign policy since the coup d'etat of =
1994
has been remarkably innovative and effective in attracting needed =
funds
from alternative sources abroad to support domestic programs. =
Jammeh
and his ministers wasted little time in cultivating new friendships =
and
consolidating old alliances outside the Western sphere of influence.
Thus, following the coup AFPRC policy had the dual objective of =
making
friends and securing alternative sources of financial assistance. =
In so
doing, AFPRC policy succeeded partly in circumventing growing
international isolation and the negative impact of Western imposed
economic sanctions. Under the APRC, Gambia's foreign policy also =
has a
dual strategy of appeasing the West and lending institutions in =
order to
attract needed funds, and support for so-called "rouge" states like
Libya and Iraq. Gambia's non-permanent membership of the UN =
Security
Council however, broadened the scope and conduct of its increasingly
activist foreign policy. This engendered a growing sense of =
confidence
for the president, leading him to play an important role in conflict
mediation and resolution, regionally and internationally. Gambia's
growing activist foreign policy has also begun a gradual reversal of
Western imposed economic sanctions and Gambia's international
isolation. The combined roles of the President as peace broker and
fundraiser underscore the two central objectives that have driven
Gambia's foreign policy historically, i.e., territorial independence =
and
procurement of external financial resources for internal development =
and
regime legitimization purposes. In this regard, Gambia's foreign
relations have remained remarkably consistent since independence. =
This
is what links Jammeh to Jawara and explains to some extent why both =
men
use(ed) foreign travel in part, to fulfill these dual national
objectives. The fates of geopolitics and limited resource =
endowments
have conspired to keep it this way. Future presidents are not =
likely to
deviate significantly from this trodden path.
Perhaps this realization coupled with Jammeh's slow, albeit,
growing acceptance in the international community has led him to =
temper
his once defiant and defensive posture toward the West. He has as a
result become more concilliatory like Jawara before him in order to =
gain
Western support and financial assistance with occasional criticism =
of
the West. However, this changed behavior or strategy has not
necessarily led to full resumption of aid. Jammeh therefore, finds
himself in a difficult mediator role as he seeks to balance Western
capitalist interests, adverse effects of structural adjustment, on =
one
hand and the welfare of a poor and growing population, on the other.
This systemic tension, perhaps conflict, is likely to sow the seeds =
of
discontent and instability in the army and civil society. Coups and
counter coups in Africa and in Ghana for example, have in part, been =
the
consequence of regime inability to mediate this conflict. While
Gambia's foreign policy under the AFPRC and APRC succeeded in =
attracting
external financial assistance, the question remains if this would
translate into tangible welfare improvements and benefits for =
Gambians.
Foreign policy under Jawara successful as it was, marginally =
improved
the lives of Gambia's poor. And notwithstanding APRC projects and =
the
good intentions of the donor and lending community, the logic of IMF =
and
World Bank structural adjustment policies and lending, in general, =
tend
to put in place a good macro-economic framework but often fail to
ameliorate or reduce poverty levels.
Jammeh's role(s) and skills as a regional conflict mediator and
between Western capital and domestic welfare needs, must be extended =
to
negotiate the crisis in the domestic political domain. The current =
rift
between the regime and opposition political parties and leaders must =
be
resolved to pre-empt a quickly deteriorating political atmosphere.
Political space must be provided these leaders and parties to enable
them to engage effectively in the political process. Political
repression and human rights abuses only delay temporarily the quest =
for
freedom, participation and accountability. A threshold is finally
reached when repression may not necessarily engender compliance. =
What
is needed is political "Vision 20/20" to complement its predecessor
(economic) "Vision 20/20." Jammeh's commitment to human rights and
democratic principles will be the basis upon which Western aid and
support will be continued. The appeal by Jammeh to traditional =
African
principles and practices of democracy as possible alternatives to a =
more
inclusive and participatory type democracy, are not likely to bring =
aid
to pre-coup levels. Insistence by Jammeh on maintaining the status =
quo
may not in the end elicit desirable outcomes. Consequently, an =
enabling
political and economic environment that has at its root individual
freedoms and opportunity for self- improvement, especially for women =
and
the rural poor must accompany this. Despite some obvious flaws, =
Vision
20/20 is a good start in this direction.23 These strategies =
combined
could go a long way in releasing and further developing both the
creative and entrepreneurial qualities of Gambians. However, when
stifled they deepen underdevelopment and mediocrity and no amount of
external funding or successful foreign policy per se, can begin to
reverse this process.
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Mr.Saine,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Your analysis is quite comprehensive. Thanks for =
sharing it=20
with us.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I just wanted to point out a couple =
tings.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>First, you failed to elaborate on the governments' =
role in=20
brokering peace in Guinea Bissau as a major score in it's foreign =
relations=20
game.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Secondly, you are a bit lenient with regards to =
Jammeh's=20
relationship with defiant nations like Libya, Iran, Sudan, Iraq and =
Cuba.=20
Especially his numerous trips to Libya in defiance of UN=20
sanctions.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>On another note, I believe Jammehs' new wife is =
Morrocan, not=20
Algerian as you mentioned. I may be wrong on this.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks for sharing.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Abdoulie Jallow</FONT></DIV>
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Gambia since the coup:1994-9<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>To G-L =
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Gambia's Foreign Policy Since the Coup:=20
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1994-1999<BR><BR> &n=
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Saine<BR> &nbs=
p;  =
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Miami University<BR><BR><BR><BR> This paper analyzes Gambia's =
foreign=20
policy since the 1994 coup<BR>d'etat1 that ousted Sir Dawda Jawara, =
Gambia's=20
first president<BR>(1965-1994). The coup brought to power Lt. Yahya =
Jammeh=20
who headed the<BR>Armed Forces Provisional Ruling Council (AFPRC), =
from July=20
1994 to<BR>September 1996 when the AFPRC was dissolved. =
Jammeh, who=20
had earlier<BR>resigned his commission, contested and won the =
presidential=20
election on<BR>September 26, 1996. Thus, attention is also =
paid to the=20
policy<BR>framework that continues to shape Gambia's foreign- policy =
under<BR>Jammeh.2 Three central questions underpin this study. =
First,=20
what<BR>external policies did the AFPRC adopt to achieve its=20
objectives?<BR>Second, What is the foreign-policy orientation of =
Gambia's=20
current<BR>Alliance for Patriotic Reconciliation and Construction =
(APRC)=20
government<BR>and third, what effect(s) did the foreign policies of =
the=20
AFPRC and the<BR>ruling APRC government have on the national economy =
and=20
Gambians?<BR> An appraisal of the content and conduct of =
Gambia's foreign relations<BR>since the coup of 1994, must of =
necessity, be=20
preceded by a quick recap<BR>of what transpired during the Jawara =
years=20
(1965-1994). It is generally<BR>agreed that the search for =
outside=20
resources to maintain domestic power<BR>structures was central to =
the=20
foreign policies of the great majority of<BR>African states.3 The =
way in=20
which this search was conducted, however,<BR>varied appreciably =
according to=20
the nature of the governments concerned<BR>and the domestic and =
external=20
threats they faced. At independence in<BR>1965 and until the =
coup in=20
1994, Gambia's foreign policy was driven by<BR>two overarching=20
objectives. First has been the desire to maintain<BR>sovereign =
statehood for the territory within the context of a =
perceived<BR>potential=20
threat of assimilation by neighboring Senegal.4 The second had<BR>to =
do with=20
attracting external economic resources to support the =
Peoples<BR>Progressive=20
Party (PPP) government's development agenda as well as =
help<BR>enrich=20
Gambia's political and bureaucratic class. In so doing, the=20
PPP<BR>government under Jawara succeeded in attracting considerable=20
economic<BR>and political support from the outside, principally =
because of=20
his<BR>pro-Western, anti-Communist and strong human rights =
record. =20
Also,<BR>Gambia's cordial relations with oil-rich Arab and Gulf =
states=20
proved<BR>financially rewarding in Jawara's bid to diversify =
Gambia's=20
funding<BR>sources in order to reduce the country's dependence on =
the=20
UK.<BR> Gambia's relations with its all encompassing =
neighbor,=20
Senegal, have<BR>occupied center stage since independence in =
1965. It=20
is a relationship<BR>often characterized by periods of relative calm =
and=20
turbulence,<BR>cooperation as in the now defunct Senegambia =
Confederation=20
and border<BR>closures to stem Gambia's re-export trade into Senegal =
and=20
neighboring<BR>states. A UN report prior to independence =
suggested=20
several possible<BR>strategies that ranged from total integration =
into=20
Senegal to proposals<BR>for a monetary and customs union.5 In =
the=20
immediate aftermath of the<BR>1981 aborted coup led by Kukoi Samba =
Sanyang,=20
Gambia agreed to join<BR>Senegal in a loose confederation, which =
Senegal=20
hoped would lead<BR>ultimately to full political union. The=20
confederation was however<BR>marred from the outset by Gambian fears =
of=20
being disadvantaged and the<BR>Confederation's "shot =
gun-wedding"=20
character.6 The Confederation ended<BR>in 1989; in particular, =
over=20
the issue of a rotating presidency, which<BR>Jawara would have =
liked, but=20
which Abdou Diouf of Senegal opposed.<BR>Predictably, with the 1994 =
coup=20
against Jawara, Senegal refused to<BR>intervene but offered the =
ex-president=20
and his entourage political<BR>asylum immediately. In fact, =
poor=20
relations with Senegal after 1989 and<BR>in particular, Senegal's =
border=20
closure contributed partly to both the<BR>cause and success of the=20
coup. The immediate causes of the coup<BR>however, lie more =
concretely=20
in the social, political, class and<BR>generational problems that =
built up=20
in the long years of PPP rule and<BR>within the army as=20
well.7<BR> Reviewing Gambia's political history =
under=20
Jawara indeed resembles a<BR>plateau occasionally marred by volcanic =
eruptions. The general image,<BR>as projected perhaps too =
often to the=20
world outside, was of a mini-state<BR>adept at survival, able in =
spite of=20
underdevelopment to run an open<BR>society with a multiparty =
democracy and=20
encapsulating both the problems<BR>and opportunities of small =
states.8 =20
In this picture the putsch in 1981<BR>and for that matter, the coup =
of 1994=20
were potrayed as aberrations. On<BR>the economic front, despite =
years of=20
claimed economic success, Gambia<BR>under Jawara continued to have =
one of=20
the lowest living standards in the<BR>continent and ranked 166th in =
the=20
world out of 173 countries according<BR>to the UNDP Human =
Development=20
Index.9 In spite of very generous<BR>financial assistance =
after the=20
1981 attempted coup, approximately 60 per<BR>cent of Gambia's =
population=20
still live under the poverty line. Thus,<BR>Gambia's paradox under =
Jawara=20
lay in the fact that here was a mini-state<BR>whose viability at=20
independence was in question and in spite of the odds<BR>managed to =
build a=20
relatively open economy and a functioning democracy,<BR>but with a =
very low=20
level of development.10 Clearly, while part of the<BR>problem =
lay in=20
elite corruption and enrichment, the overriding cause<BR>more =
generally, was=20
the poor performance of public institutions.<BR> =
Regionally,=20
Jawara maintained good relations with neighboring states<BR>and as =
an elder=20
statesman, sought to resolve the Liberia conflict. At<BR>the=20
continental level Gambia under Jawara supported the OAU and =
its<BR>efforts=20
to end racism and apartheid in South Africa. What at =
first<BR>started=20
out as good relations with Libya quickly deteriorated in =
the<BR>early 1980's=20
because of Gadaffi's support of Kukoi Samba Sanyang, who<BR>led the=20
unsuccessful coup attempt against Jawara in 1981. By the =
time<BR>he=20
was overthrown, Jawara was acclaimed internationally for =
his<BR>commitment=20
to human rights, democracy and the rule of law especially<BR>within =
the=20
Commonwealth. Consequently, the condemnation and =
the<BR>subsequent=20
sanctions imposed by the West and Western institutions on =
the<BR>AFPRC=20
following his ouster, was to have a chilling effect on the =
coup<BR>and=20
Gambia's=20
=
economy.<BR><BR><BR>  =
; =20
The AFPRC's External Policy Pronouncements: =
1994-1996<BR><BR> =20
The central preoccupation of the AFPRC following the coup was =
the<BR>need to=20
ensure Gambia's economic survival in the face of mounting<BR>Western =
displeasure and threats of economic sanctions. These =
threats<BR>were=20
not taken lightly by the AFPRC, understandably. The fact that=20
80<BR>per cent of Gambia's national development budget was at the =
time=20
funded<BR>by the EU, Japan, the UK and international financial =
institutions=20
meant<BR>that the severing of aid would have disastrous economic and =
social<BR>consequences. Until 1972, Britain provided the bulk =
of=20
foreign<BR>financial assistance to Gambia and by 1981, EU aid to =
Gambia rose=20
from<BR>$0.5m in 1976 to $13m, making it the largest multilateral =
donor in=20
that<BR>period. Although the volume of aid declined in =
subsequent=20
years, the EU<BR>maintained its lead as Gambia's principal =
multilateral=20
donor until<BR>1986.11 In that year, the International =
Development=20
Agency, a World<BR>Bank affiliate took the leading position. =
Between=20
1987-1990 EU's<BR>assistance to Gambia amounted to some $30m. =
A large=20
part of this came<BR>in the form of balance of payments=20
assistance.<BR> Furthermore, US withdrawal of $10m in =
aid=20
coupled with Japan's and<BR>the UNDP's freezing of all development =
aid,=20
meant that Gambia's external<BR>reserves, scant as they were, would =
become a=20
major source for financing<BR>the balance of payments deficit. =
A=20
British Foreign Office "travel<BR>advice" on November =
23,1994,=20
four months after the coup, that "Banjul is<BR>calm but the =
political=20
situation in The Gambia remains uncertain and<BR>could deteriorate=20
quickly" literally gutted the tourist industry.12<BR>This =
travel advice=20
was quickly followed by similar Swedish and Danish<BR>announcements=20
cautioning potential tourists not to visit Gambia, because<BR>of =
political=20
instability. Since the mid-1970's, tourism had =
become<BR>Gambia's main=20
source of foreign exchange and constituted 12 percent =
of<BR>GDP. It=20
employed approximately 10,000 workers many of whom were heads<BR>of=20
households supporting on average ten =
individuals.<BR> =20
Combined Western sanctions came into effect in November, =
following<BR>the=20
failed coup attempt on November 11,1994 in which as many as =
30<BR>soldiers=20
were said to have been summarily executed. Also, the =
dismissal<BR>of=20
Bakary Dabo, allegedly for his involvement in the foiled =
coup,<BR>triggered=20
a swift and severe Western reaction.13 Dabo, who was at one<BR>time =
Jawara's=20
minister of finance, also held the same portfolio in the<BR>new=20
regime. He subsequently fled the country out of fear for his=20
life.<BR>The EU froze all balance of payments support, followed by =
the=20
suspension<BR>of all but humanitarian aid by the US and Japan, =
pending=20
the<BR>announcement of a program to return the country to democratic =
rule.<BR>With sanctions in place, government coffers were quickly =
being=20
depleted<BR>with reverberating effects on the average Gambian's =
standard of=20
living.<BR>The failed coup attempt combined with Western sanctions =
to create=20
an<BR>atmosphere of growing AFPRC insecurity =
domestically.<BR> =20
Consequently, the first reaction to suspend bilateral aid and =
balance<BR>of=20
payments assistance provoked two main reactions. The first was =
a<BR>defensive reaction from the AFPRC itself that "with or =
without=20
aid, The<BR>Gambia would maintain an independent state, run by =
Gambians in=20
the<BR>interest of Gambians." 14 The second came generally from =
government<BR>officials and the public at large, who felt that the =
sanctions=20
were<BR>unjustifiable. All however, were concerned with =
Gambia's=20
economic<BR>future in the face of these sanctions. The =
sanctions also=20
had the<BR>immediate effect of potentially affecting the projects =
outlined=20
in the<BR>development programs of the transition period. =
Indirectly,=20
they led to<BR>lower tax revenue for the AFPRC, due in part to =
dislocation=20
of trade<BR>caused by foreign currency shortage. Jammeh =
criticized the=20
IMF and<BR>World Bank for the negative effects structural adjustment =
had=20
on<BR>Gambia's poor and vowed that the burden of such policies would =
no=20
longer<BR>be borne by the poor alone, but by the rich as well. =
He also=20
rejected<BR>forthwith the linkage between Western aid resumption to =
Jawara's=20
return<BR>to Gambia. He castigated Jawara for presiding over a =
democracy defined<BR>by corruption and promised to recover money =
embezzled=20
by officials of<BR>the previous regime.<BR> Perhaps the =
earliest=20
and most significant demonstration of goodwill<BR>toward the AFPRC =
came from=20
Libya. Following the withdrawal of Western<BR>bilateral aid in =
November 1994, Libya stepped into the void with a =
$15m<BR>grant.15 In=20
November 1994 full diplomatic relations with Libya were<BR>restored =
after 15=20
years of hostile relations between Jawara and<BR>Gadaffi. =
Chinese=20
support and goodwill in the form of a $23m grant for<BR>agriculture=20
followed. Chinese assistance was to cease =
immediately,<BR>however,=20
following the AFPRC's resumption of diplomatic relations =
with<BR>Taiwan on=20
July 13, 1995, after a 21year break.16 The Jawara =
government<BR>had=20
earlier in 1968 established diplomatic relations with Taiwan, =
but<BR>broke=20
them off in 1974 in favor of China. Outraged by the APRC=20
policy<BR>change, China severed relations with Gambia on July 25,=20
1995. Since<BR>then, Taiwan has been a staunch supporter of =
the AFPRC=20
and the<BR>subsequent APRC government with an initial loan of =
$35m.17 =20
Today,<BR>Taiwanese aid has totaled about $80m. Clearly, =
because of=20
ongoing<BR>difficulties with the mainland, Taiwan has tried to make =
friends=20
and win<BR>support for its position internationally. The =
AFPRC's=20
efforts to make<BR>friends and hence, end growing international =
isolation=20
also led to the<BR>dispatching of several government delegations to =
Nigeria,=20
Sierra Leone<BR>with Jammeh making his first trip to Senegal on =
September=20
22, 1994 to<BR>meet with President Diouf.18 Diouf =
promised=20
support for the new regime<BR>aware of Jammeh's potential role and =
future=20
involvement in the civil war<BR>in Senegal's northern province of=20
Cassamance. Senegal's border closure<BR>before the coup, =
together with the impact of Western sanctions was<BR>already putting =
a=20
suffocating squeeze on Gambia's economy.19<BR> At =
this=20
point Nigeria became Gambia's benefactor and proved critical<BR>to =
the=20
survival of Gambia's economy. Surrounded by Senegal and=20
other<BR>French-speaking countries, Gambia has maintained warm and=20
cordial<BR>relations with its larger and more populous =
protector. With=20
the demise<BR>of the Senegambian Confederation in 1989, president =
Jawara=20
sought and<BR>received protection from the military president of =
Nigeria,=20
General<BR>Ibrahim Babangida. Subsequent to the coup in 1994, Jammeh =
inherited and<BR>strengthened relations with Nigeria and became the=20
protégé and ally of<BR>the late Nigerian president, =
General=20
Sani Abacha. In fact, Jammeh cut<BR>short a regional tour to=20
Mauritania, Cape Verde and Guinea on learning<BR>of Abacha's death =
in June=20
1998. Jammeh maintained good relations with<BR>Nigeria's =
military=20
president and successor to the late Abacha, General<BR>Abdusalam =
Abubakar,=20
who visited Gambia in early 1999. With Nigeria's<BR>new =
civilian=20
government now in power, it is doubtful if such relations<BR>with =
president=20
Obasanjo will continue. Since coming to power in =
early<BR>June,=20
Obasanjo has begun a purge of many senior military officers =
in<BR>Nigeria's=20
army.<BR> The severe reduction and in some cases the =
freezing of=20
aid compelled<BR>the Jammeh regime to seek alternative sources of=20
development funding and<BR>keep the economy afloat. In January =
1995,=20
Jammeh held talks with<BR>President Joao Bernardo Vieira of =
Guinea-Bissau=20
and held similar<BR>meetings with Strasser of Sierra Leone and =
Rawlings of=20
Ghana. A visit<BR>to Mauritania in the summer of 1995 and =
various=20
delegations to Egypt and<BR>Nigeria and promises of financial =
support and=20
cooperation eased at least<BR>temporarily AFPRC isolation. At =
the same=20
time however, Western pressure<BR>to hand power over to a civilian=20
government was mounting and the<BR>sanctions were by now having a=20
detrimental effect by way of sluggish<BR>business =
activity.<BR> =20
By the end of November 1994, four months after the coup, =
Jammeh<BR>announced=20
at a rally in Banjul, the capital, that the AFPRC would =
return<BR>the=20
country to civilian rule in December 1998 after free=20
presidential<BR>elections. This meant the AFPRC would be in =
office for=20
a little over<BR>four years and five months. The length of the =
transition was condemned<BR>both nationally and =
internationally. Chief=20
Emeka Anyaoku, the<BR>Commonwealth Secretary-General, issued a =
statement in=20
London rejecting<BR>the four-year delay as "unacceptable" =
and=20
called for elections within<BR>three to six months. Aware of =
mounting=20
domestic and international<BR>pressure against the four-year =
timetable and=20
upon the recommendation of<BR>the National Consultative Commission =
(NCC),=20
the AFPRC agreed to a<BR>two-year timetable to culminate in =
presidential=20
elections in June 1996.<BR>The AFPRC however, rejected the NCC's =
proposal=20
for an interim civilian<BR>government to be headed by Dr. Wally =
Ndow, a UN=20
official or Dr. Lamin<BR>Sanneh, a Yale University professor of=20
religion.<BR> Following the two-year term limit=20
announcement, AFPRC foreign<BR>relations assumed a more aggressive =
stance=20
with Jammeh visiting Egypt on<BR>June 11-12, 1995 where he met =
President=20
Mubarak and PLO leader Yasser<BR>Arafat. At the 31st Summit of =
the OAU=20
heads of state meeting in Addis<BR>Ababa, Jammeh pledged to pay in =
full,=20
Gambia's overdue contributions to<BR>the organization. This earned =
him=20
needed recognition. But perhaps the<BR>regime scored its =
greatest=20
success in its foreign relations, when it<BR>succeeded in July of =
1995, in=20
hosting President Rawlings of Ghana as the<BR>guest of honor during =
the=20
first anniversary of the coup. Also, the<BR>official opening =
of the=20
mosque at the State House, later that summer by<BR>the Imam of =
Mecca, had an=20
important symbolic effect on a predominantly<BR>Muslim country, in =
addition=20
to cultivating support and goodwill with the<BR>oil-rich Arab and =
Gulf=20
States. In time, the AFPRC cultivated and<BR>maintained =
cordial=20
relations with these states and in August 1996, Iran<BR>pledged to =
improve=20
relations with Gambia and to cooperate in agriculture<BR>and fishing =
sectors. It appears that by the time the AFPRC =
celebrated<BR>its=20
second year in office in July 1996, it had succeeded in spite of=20
the<BR>sanctions, to make friends and earn the financial support it =
needed=20
to<BR>undertake its development projects. A $20m loan from the =
Africa<BR>Development Bank to refurbish Banjul's international =
airport is a=20
case<BR>in point. This was indicative of the slow but growing=20
acceptance of the<BR>regime in some circles, in part because of its =
putative=20
objective to<BR>improving living conditions for the average =
Gambian. A=20
visit by<BR>President Abdou Diouf of Senegal earlier in January, was =
also a=20
sign of<BR>Senegal's approval, perhaps apprehensiveness of the =
AFPRC. =20
The<BR>resumption of some financial aid from the West, in =
preparation for=20
the<BR>impending presidential elections now slated for September=20
1996,<BR>suggested some shelter from the storm. In fact, =
during his=20
address at<BR>the second July 22 celebration of the coup and two =
months=20
before the<BR>elections, Jammeh singled out Taiwan, Egypt, Libya, =
Nigeria,=20
Sierra<BR>Leone, Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia as "true=20
friends." He also<BR>spoke warmly of the improved =
relations with=20
Senegal.20<BR> In retrospect, it seems that the AFPRC =
succeeded=20
in maintaining the<BR>economy, albeit marginally with funds made =
available=20
by friends. In<BR>fact, by March 1996, Gambia's external =
reserves=20
stood at $112m compared<BR>with $90m at the end of June 1995. =
The=20
generally held belief that the<BR>economy would ultimately collapse =
in the=20
face of reduced development<BR>aid, balance of payments support and =
reduced=20
revenue because of the<BR>British travel advice, was in reality, not =
realized.21 While all these<BR>were inevitably affected, =
Gambia's=20
macro-economic framework under the<BR>supervision of Central Bank =
and the=20
Ministry of Finance averted major<BR>economic dislocation. =
That the=20
AFPRC initiated several development<BR>projects including two high =
schools,=20
a hospital in Farafenni etc. and<BR>raised salaries was indeed =
remarkable=20
given the adverse international<BR>environment.<BR> The=20
consequences of donor sanctions were far-reaching, =
nonetheless.<BR>They=20
undermined business confidence and activity, created =
mass<BR>unemployment in=20
tourism and raised the price of essential commodities.<BR>Personal =
income,=20
not even to speak of government and corporate =
revenue<BR>plummeted. It=20
is estimated that the sanctions resulted in a $100m loss<BR>in aid =
and=20
approximately $10m in direct foreign investment by the end =
of<BR>1995. =20
While the sanctions targeted the AFPRC, in hindsight it hurt =
the<BR>average=20
Gambian economically. Economic sanctions, as other =
countries<BR>like=20
Iraq and Libya suggest do not bring about the intended =
political<BR>changes=20
in leadership. If anything, they tend to worsen the =
hardship<BR>among=20
the poor and vulnerable in the=20
=
population.<BR><BR> =
&=
nbsp; =20
The APRC and Gambia's Foreign Policy: 1996-<BR>1999<BR><BR>Gambia's=20
transition to "civilian" rule culminated in the election=20
of<BR>retired Captain Yahya Jammeh as president of the Second =
Republic=20
on<BR>September 26, 1996 and the holding of National Assembly =
elections=20
on<BR>January 2, 1997.22 Jammeh resigned his commission =
shortly=20
before the<BR>presidential election, formed the APRC party and =
tilted the=20
rules to<BR>favor him after having banned his major political=20
opponents.<BR>Predictably, the Commonwealth condemned both the =
results and=20
the process<BR>in which all the major contestants were excluded from =
participation.<BR>Jammeh responded "that the West wanted =
democracy to=20
be restored in<BR>Gambia. Now they have it and as an added =
bonus an=20
olive branch to<BR>march." He further argued that there =
was no=20
reason to ostracize the<BR>regime and no justification for =
maintaining the=20
economic sanctions on<BR>the country. In early November 1996, =
Libya=20
expressed strong support for<BR>the new government and urged =
Gambians to=20
"live in dignity and freedom<BR>under its youthful=20
revolution." Thereafter, Jammeh paid a four-day<BR>visit =
to Libya=20
and in a communiqué called on OAU member states to =
work<BR>together=20
and called for the end "to unjust sanctions imposed on =
the<BR>Libyan=20
people." In January 22, 1997, Taiwan announced a $411,500 =
grant<BR>to enable the Jammeh government pay the salaries of Cuban, =
Nigerian=20
and<BR>Egyptian doctors and healthcare workers. Aware of the =
fact that=20
his<BR>regime was not looked upon favorably by its main aid donors, =
Jammeh=20
was<BR>bent on cultivating productive alliances and support =
elsewhere. =20
He made<BR>several trips to the Middleast and performed the =
pilgrimage to=20
Mecca in<BR>1997. Thus, with Jammeh in power and control over =
the=20
National<BR>Assembly, the APRC's diplomatic flurry sought to=20
consolidate<BR>pre-election friendships and the creation of new =
ones. =20
In fact,<BR>Jammeh's wedding to an Algerian national in early 1999=20
strengthened<BR>further Gambia's relations with =
Algeria.<BR> The=20
meeting in Gambia on September 11, 1997 of the nine =
member<BR>countries of=20
the Permanent Interstate Committee on Drought Control in<BR>the =
Sahel=20
(CILSS), accorded the new regime much needed recognition =
and<BR>prestige=20
regionally. Serving as the CILSS current Chairman gave =
Jammeh<BR>a=20
forum to showcase his development programs, especially the=20
newly<BR>refurbished airport and new television station. The =
APRC=20
gained more<BR>international recognition when Gambia became a =
non-permanent=20
member of<BR>the UN Security Council on January 2, 1998 for a =
two-year=20
term. Jammeh<BR>has used his newly found status to support =
friends=20
like Taiwan, Libya<BR>and Iraq. On May 14, 1998, Iraq's =
foreign=20
minister visited Gambia to<BR>seek help in fighting UN imposed=20
sanctions. Similarly, Jammeh has<BR>called for the end of UN =
imposed=20
sanctions against Libya at the OAU and<BR>the UN respectively. =
It=20
appears that Jammeh's international image is<BR>improving with =
Gambia's=20
presence in the Security Council. In February,<BR>1998 Jammeh =
paid=20
visits to France and Italy, chaired the UN Security<BR>Council in =
March and=20
held talks with leaders in Saudi Arabia, Iraq and<BR>Nigeria in =
April and=20
May. Regionally, Jammeh's government successfully<BR>mediated =
the=20
conflict in Guinea- Bissau. This was a =
major<BR>accomplishment. =20
The APRC has also offered its good offices in the civil<BR>war =
between=20
Senegal's government and the rebels of the Movement for =
a<BR>Democratic=20
Casamance (MFDC). Clearly, this has enhanced Jammeh's sense<BR>of=20
confidence. Thus, Jammeh like Jawara before him has emerged as =
a<BR>peace broker in part to ward off these conflicts from =
destabilizing=20
his<BR>regime. Already, Gambia is home to over 10,000 refugees =
from=20
Senegal's<BR>neighboring province of Casamance, Guinea- Bissau and=20
Sierra-Leone. The<BR>need to attract foreign resources to =
support his=20
development agenda at<BR>home and maintain Gambia's territorial =
integrity=20
are the driving forces<BR>for Jammeh's numerous missions =
abroad. This=20
is a paradox however,<BR>because this is an issue that he =
consistently=20
criticized ex-president<BR>Jawara for, after the =
coup.<BR> =20
Gambia's foreign policy successes are also attributable to a =
cadre<BR>of=20
seasoned career diplomats, notwithstanding the frequent changes =
at<BR>the=20
foreign minister level. Since the coup, Bolong Sonko,=20
Baboucarr<BR>Blaise Jagne, Omar Njie and its current holder, Lamin =
Sedat=20
Jobe, an<BR>official at UNESCO, have held this position. =
Together,=20
they have given<BR>leadership, coherence and direction to Gambia's =
foreign=20
relations. The<BR>appointment of seasoned diplomats like Njogu =
Bah,=20
who serves as<BR>Ambassador to France is indicative of France's =
growing=20
importance and<BR>source of support for Gambia. Bah, who =
studied in=20
Dakar and France,<BR>respectively, first served as Ambassador to =
Senegal and=20
is also<BR>accredited to several European countries. =
Ex-minister Sonko=20
has since<BR>joined the major opposition party, the United =
Democratic Party=20
(UDP) and<BR>Jagne now serves as Gambia's representative to the=20
UN. As in most<BR>countries, Ambassadorial appointments =
under=20
Jammeh have often been<BR>political. The accreditation of =
Crispin=20
Grey-Johnson as Ambassador to<BR>Washington was greeted with=20
enthusiasm. Though not a career diplomat,<BR>Johnson, by most =
accounts=20
performed well as Ambassador. As of this<BR>writing, he has =
been=20
recalled to Gambia with the official reason that<BR>his two-year =
term was up=20
and was needed elsewhere.<BR> Yet, it seems likely =
that=20
Gambia's increasingly activist foreign<BR>policy may begin to =
restore the=20
goodwill of its main donors and reverse<BR>what once was an =
antagonistic=20
relationship. This is precisely what<BR>appears to be =
happening. =20
After almost a four- year absence, the World<BR>Bank has resumed =
lending to=20
Gambia with an initial loan of $18m in April<BR>1998. The IMF =
at the=20
end of June 1998 also approved a three-year loan<BR>to the regime =
under an=20
enhanced structural adjustment facility (ESAF) =
of<BR>$27m. The=20
UNDP and the US have resumed some aid. The EU has =
also<BR>promised aid=20
to the tune of $100m over a three-year period. =
The<BR>African=20
Development Bank also made an additional $13m loan in 1998 =
to<BR>compliment=20
the $14m in aid given in 1997. The money would be used =
to<BR>improve=20
health services, population and poverty reduction measures.<BR>While =
some=20
major Western donors have resumed aid it is yet to reach<BR>pre-coup =
levels. Jammeh's commitment to democracy and human rights =
will<BR>be=20
the basis upon which Western aid and support will be =
continued. =20
Yet,<BR>with tourist bookings approximating pre-coup levels, the =
economy=20
could<BR>get a shot in the arm. These loans and added revenue =
could=20
give the<BR>regime the needed stamp of approval to attract more =
loans and=20
support.<BR>Also, the resumption of aid to almost pre-coup levels =
and=20
relations with<BR>Senegal improving, Gambia's re-export trade could =
get a=20
new leash on<BR>life. Jammeh's conciliatory gesture to the =
diplomatic=20
Community in<BR>Gambia in January 1998 seeks to forge a "new =
era of=20
partnership and<BR>cooperation." In spite of the resumption of =
some aid=20
and returning<BR>tourists however, the economy remains vulnerable to =
external shocks. The<BR>APRC's growing repression of opposition =
leaders,=20
parties and the press<BR>could deteriorate into instability with =
potential=20
spillover into the<BR>army and civil society. It seems the =
donor=20
community will keep a<BR>watchful eye over Jammeh's commitment to =
principles=20
of good governance<BR>and human=20
=
rights.<BR><BR><BR> =
&=
nbsp; =20
Conclusion<BR><BR>In conclusion, Gambia' s foreign policy since the =
coup=20
d'etat of 1994<BR>has been remarkably innovative and effective in =
attracting=20
needed funds<BR>from alternative sources abroad to support domestic=20
programs. Jammeh<BR>and his ministers wasted little time in=20
cultivating new friendships and<BR>consolidating old alliances =
outside the=20
Western sphere of influence.<BR>Thus, following the coup AFPRC =
policy had=20
the dual objective of making<BR>friends and securing alternative =
sources of=20
financial assistance. In so<BR>doing, AFPRC policy succeeded =
partly in=20
circumventing growing<BR>international isolation and the negative =
impact of=20
Western imposed<BR>economic sanctions. Under the APRC, =
Gambia's=20
foreign policy also has a<BR>dual strategy of appeasing the West and =
lending=20
institutions in order to<BR>attract needed funds, and support for =
so-called=20
"rouge" states like<BR>Libya and Iraq. Gambia's=20
non-permanent membership of the UN Security<BR>Council however, =
broadened=20
the scope and conduct of its increasingly<BR>activist foreign =
policy. =20
This engendered a growing sense of confidence<BR>for the president, =
leading=20
him to play an important role in conflict<BR>mediation and =
resolution,=20
regionally and internationally. Gambia's<BR>growing activist =
foreign=20
policy has also begun a gradual reversal of<BR>Western imposed =
economic=20
sanctions and Gambia's international<BR>isolation. The =
combined roles=20
of the President as peace broker and<BR>fundraiser underscore the =
two=20
central objectives that have driven<BR>Gambia's foreign policy =
historically,=20
i.e., territorial independence and<BR>procurement of external =
financial=20
resources for internal development and<BR>regime legitimization=20
purposes. In this regard, Gambia's foreign<BR>relations have =
remained=20
remarkably consistent since independence. This<BR>is what =
links Jammeh=20
to Jawara and explains to some extent why both men<BR>use(ed) =
foreign travel=20
in part, to fulfill these dual national<BR>objectives. The =
fates of=20
geopolitics and limited resource endowments<BR>have conspired to =
keep it=20
this way. Future presidents are not likely to<BR>deviate =
significantly=20
from this trodden path.<BR> Perhaps this =
realization=20
coupled with Jammeh's slow, albeit,<BR>growing acceptance in the=20
international community has led him to temper<BR>his once defiant =
and=20
defensive posture toward the West. He has as a<BR>result =
become more=20
concilliatory like Jawara before him in order to gain<BR>Western =
support and=20
financial assistance with occasional criticism of<BR>the West. =
However, this changed behavior or strategy has not<BR>necessarily =
led to=20
full resumption of aid. Jammeh therefore, finds<BR>himself in =
a=20
difficult mediator role as he seeks to balance Western<BR>capitalist =
interests, adverse effects of structural adjustment, on one<BR>hand =
and the=20
welfare of a poor and growing population, on the other.<BR>This =
systemic=20
tension, perhaps conflict, is likely to sow the seeds =
of<BR>discontent and=20
instability in the army and civil society. Coups =
and<BR>counter coups=20
in Africa and in Ghana for example, have in part, been =
the<BR>consequence of=20
regime inability to mediate this conflict. While<BR>Gambia's =
foreign=20
policy under the AFPRC and APRC succeeded in attracting<BR>external=20
financial assistance, the question remains if this =
would<BR>translate into=20
tangible welfare improvements and benefits for Gambians.<BR>Foreign =
policy=20
under Jawara successful as it was, marginally improved<BR>the lives =
of=20
Gambia's poor. And notwithstanding APRC projects and =
the<BR>good=20
intentions of the donor and lending community, the logic of IMF =
and<BR>World=20
Bank structural adjustment policies and lending, in general, =
tend<BR>to put=20
in place a good macro-economic framework but often fail =
to<BR>ameliorate or=20
reduce poverty levels.<BR> Jammeh's role(s) and =
skills as=20
a regional conflict mediator and<BR>between Western capital and =
domestic=20
welfare needs, must be extended to<BR>negotiate the crisis in the =
domestic=20
political domain. The current rift<BR>between the regime and=20
opposition political parties and leaders must be<BR>resolved to =
pre-empt a=20
quickly deteriorating political atmosphere.<BR>Political space must =
be=20
provided these leaders and parties to enable<BR>them to engage =
effectively=20
in the political process. Political<BR>repression and human =
rights=20
abuses only delay temporarily the quest for<BR>freedom, =
participation and=20
accountability. A threshold is finally<BR>reached when =
repression may=20
not necessarily engender compliance. What<BR>is needed is =
political=20
"Vision 20/20" to complement its predecessor<BR>(economic) =
"Vision 20/20." Jammeh's commitment to human rights=20
and<BR>democratic principles will be the basis upon which Western =
aid=20
and<BR>support will be continued. The appeal by Jammeh to =
traditional=20
African<BR>principles and practices of democracy as possible =
alternatives to=20
a more<BR>inclusive and participatory type democracy, are not likely =
to=20
bring aid<BR>to pre-coup levels. Insistence by Jammeh on =
maintaining=20
the status quo<BR>may not in the end elicit desirable =
outcomes. =20
Consequently, an enabling<BR>political and economic environment that =
has at=20
its root individual<BR>freedoms and opportunity for self- =
improvement,=20
especially for women and<BR>the rural poor must accompany =
this. =20
Despite some obvious flaws, Vision<BR>20/20 is a good start in this=20
direction.23 These strategies combined<BR>could go a long way =
in=20
releasing and further developing both the<BR>creative and =
entrepreneurial=20
qualities of Gambians. However, when<BR>stifled they deepen=20
underdevelopment and mediocrity and no amount of<BR>external funding =
or=20
successful foreign policy per se, can begin to<BR>reverse this=20
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For those of you in Washington state.
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Subject: Advocacy for Africa
PRESS RELEASE
Contact: David Mozer, 1-206-767-0848, [log in to unmask]
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
SUMMIT ON AFRICA
SEATTLE. The National Summit on Africa will culminate in
Washington, D.C. in February 2000 when a new U.S./Africa
agenda for action will be presented to leaders in the
community, government, and industry. It is a national grass
roots effort that everyone is welcome and encouraged to get
involved with. As part of the process the Washington State
Initiative on the National Summit on Africa is holding an
open meeting to introduce the project on Wednesday, July 21,
from 7:30 to 9:00 P.M., at the Miller Community Center, 330
19th E, Seattle WA.
The National Summit on Africa is a non-governmental,
nonprofit, organization with three objectives:
1. To further educate the U.S. public about Africa and
engage more Americans in the policy-making process;
2. To develop new grass roots constituencies for Africa and
help existing ones expand their scope; and
3. To energize this broadened constituency to craft a shared
policy agenda aimed at informing and reshaping the policy
making process on U.S.-Africa affairs.
The Washington State Initiative on the National Summit on
Africa is pursuing these three objectives, as well as
recruiting members for the Washington State Delegations to
the National Summit. The delegation will reflect the
diversity of the state, including gender, race, age, etc.
Delegates will be drawn from the private and public sectors,
including non-governmental organizations, state and local
government, business, academic, religious, labor, high
school students, university students, etc. If you have an
interest in Africa relating to: sustainable fisheries;
sustainable transport/urban ecology; small and medium size
business trade and investment; external debt; dissemination
of "high-tech" technology; environmental
stewardship/sustainable forestry/sustainable agriculture;
health care/food security; education; cultural exchange;
human (civil) rights/democracy; or peace
Work/Refugees/Landmines, you are urge to attend the meeting
or make your interests know to us.
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Again, for the Washington state folk. I would really encourage the people
from the Senegambian Association to join in this growing network. all the
best, Ylva
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I just sent you a press release on raising the level of
advocacy for Africa in Washington State.
Please feel free to forward it to anyone who might be
interested. Please tell interested individuals that they
should let me know if they want to be on the distribution
list.
If you know of any Africa organizations in Washington State
that we should have on our list please let me know. It is
great if you have an email address for them, but we can also
send to snail mail addresses.
Thank you for your assistance.
Sincerely,
David Mozer
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Perhaps someone can pass this information along to the Gambia Muslim
women's org.
Jabou
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Assalamu`alaikum Warahmatullah,
Dear Brothers and Sisters,
I hope this email finds you all well and successful in your "jihad" in
Allah's cause.
Please allow me to take this opportunity to introduce myself. I am Asna
Husin, an Indonesian and a Columbia University graduate who works for the
World Conference on Religion and Peace (WCRP)/International here in New
York. I conduct research on religious women's associations, including Muslim
women's associations, around the World. I am also in the process of building
an association of religious women's organizations that is designed to
provide a critical networking capacity for religious women's associations
and their communities. In addition, I am preparing the list of 65-100
religious women to be invited to WCRP Assembly in November in Jordan.
I put Muslim women's organizations as a priority because I would not like to
see Muslim women to be left out from the project.
Although most netters are American but many of your parents or yourselves
come from different countries around the world. I am wondering if you could
kindly help me find information of Muslim women's associations in a specific
country of everyone of you who has a chance to help me on this issue. I have
already received some names from Indonesia, Malaysia, Australia, the United
States and am expecting the responses from Iran and Egypt.
I am particularly in need of help from those who are familiar with Central
Asian countries, such as Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan or Azarbaijan, and with
African nations of Sudan, Ethiopia, Somalia, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali,
Nigeria and Niger.
I thank you in advance for your help and kindness. I pray may Allah reward
you for good deeds. Amin.
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...'deprived of food and water for several days'. Folks Mr Nyassi could have
died in the hands of his abductors and someone needs to be held responsible
for not providing him food and water.
God Bless and Peace Be Upon All
Alasana Bah
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>How can the NIA free a person they didn't have in custody in the first
>place??????
>
> Digest this folks:
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> Abdoulie Jallow
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> World: Africa
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> Gambian opposition man freed
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>
>
> The Gambian security services have released an opposition
>activist, Single Nyassi, who says he was abducted from his home nearly a
>month ago.
>
> Speaking to reporters after his release, Mr Nyassi -- who is
>an executive member of the opposition United Democratic Party -- said he'd
>been held by the country's intelligence agency, and had been deprived of
>food and water for several days.
>
> He said he was now considering taking legal action against the
>state.
>
> Mr Nyassi's release follows an order from the High Court
>earlier this month, and pressure from the European Union. No charges have
>been laid against him.
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> From the newsroom of the BBC World Service
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Dear list managers
Could you please unsubscribe me from the list, for i will not be able to =
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Mr Best,
This is Coach!! Long time no see!! Hope everything is going on smoothly.
Anyway, I'll write privately, now that I've got your e-mail address, but I
am sending this write up to this forum, otherwise known as Gambia L, because
the Observer issue/sale was raised here, some time ago.
First of all, welcome to Gambia L, and I hope you'll find some of the
postings/articles useful and informative.
By the way, Gambia L is a forum/medium, where Gambians everywhere, and
friends of the Gambia worldwide, exchange ideas, share information, engage
in healthy debates etc.
Although, I must warn you now, that sometimes, these discussions do
degenerate into personal attacks. So one has to be very careful with what
one sends to this forum.
Anyway, one thing is clear, everybody is waiting to hear your side of the
story, regarding the sale of the Daily Observer to our good friend, Amadou
Samba.
In my view, it would be both useful and helpful, if you could issue, as soon
as possible, a statement to the Gambian people, through this forum and other
media, explaining why you had to sell the Observer Company.
The following questions arise, or come to one's mind:
1. Why did you have to sell the Observer, in the first place?
Did you know Amadou Samba has close links with the Jammeh regime?
2. How was the sale conducted, especially given the fact that you
were/are not in the Gambia? Was is advertised? Were there other
bidders, apart from Amadou? Did you deal with Mr Samba yourself on the
phone, or was there an intermediary or a go-between? Is it possible to name
the intermediary.
3. Are you aware that D.A Jawo has been sacked, shortly after the sale
took place and also Baba Galleh Jallow had to tender his resignation,
following Mr Jawo's dismissal? What is your reaction to these
developments involving Jallow and Jawo?
4.Some people are also curious to know how much was the Observer sold for?
5. Finally, being one of Africa's most respected veteran
journalists/publishers, what message/advise would you have for the new
management team at the Observer, the paper's faithful readers and the
Government itself?
Extend my warmest regards to your great wife, Mae Gene, and I eagerly
looking forward to hearing your side of the story. I miss your excellent and
lucid writings/commentaries. Hope Gambia L would have some of them. A topic
for you: Africa on the eve of the new millennium. Your thoughts.
Ebrima ceesay,
Birmingham, UK.
PS: Dr Abdoulaye Saine, I always enjoy reading your useful publications.
Again, this one on the Gambia's Foreign Policy was, as expected, a well
researched and a well written paper. keep it up!
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Can anyone out there please help me with the fax # for the
British High Commission in the Gambia. If you know the #
please send it to my private address. Thank you all in
advance.
God speed!
Pa Mambuna
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<blockquote>Can anyone out there please help me with the fax # for the
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Jaajef Saiks and all on the L,
I liked your piece about Musa Ngom and his difficulties, however I do not
believe that despair is the order of the day on this. Musa has had many
ups and downs in his career, in Gambia as well as in Senegal. I can
remember meeting him in Dakar in one of his "down" periods when he
was at Grand Yoff and seeing him play a new years show in a small bar
of dubious reputation called "Columbia" at Djamnadjo in Senegal...a
contrast to other times when he has been one of the most influential
musicians around packing stadiums. However one of my favorite songs
he has written is very relevant; "Artiste" where he sings "Artist du
daanu, artist bu fonka liggeyam..."
Whilst I appreciate your point about broken promises, at the end of the
day being an artist is less about medals and national honours than about
the creative process and the response from the audience. One of the
best artists in Senegal is Ouza who to my knowledge has never been
given a medal, who has had his records banned, who has been
harrassed by the authorities, but who carries on a succssess because
"deff fonkk liggeyam". In the past, it seems that there has been an issue
about the Gambian public recognising Gambian artists, whilst in Senegal
they were always more popular... I can remeber the same being true of
Ifangbondi... maybe the initiative of new music around Yellowgate might
reverse this trend, but I my opinion this whole issue is more about
self-pride and self-respect than about official patronage (which has
never really done much for artistic creativity anywhere), in the same
way as having Gambian images on Gambian stamps is.
Anyway I truly believe that whatever the situation Musa "deff fonkk
liggeyam" and therefore "daanu bi du yagg"
Yeendu ak jaam
Tony
>>> saiks samateh <[log in to unmask]> 21/June/1999 02:18am
>>>
THE SAD STORY OF MUSA NGOM
For some time back we learn that Musa Ngom is not even in the position
to pay
his house rent.This alone is no big deal,we know there many who cant
pay their
house rent,but in the case of Musa Ngom he was leaving in Senegal,
perhaps
more secured and respected,he was ask by his president if he would
prefer
leaving in his own house or the house of a friend.Musa opted for his
own house
and that is,Gambia, his president(Dr Alhagi Yaya a.j.j.Jammeh)promised
that
his government will do all they can to help him realize his dreams as one
of
the most recognized Gambian musician in Senegambia.Musa never got
again any
session with this president.He even hired a Taxi to the country -side
during a
presidential tour,just to be able to remind him of all the promises,he never
got near the president,he has to pay the Taxi Driver with his
speakers.Leaving
in his own house seems to be more and more uncomfortable.But in his
friends
house(SENEGAL)memories of his talents as a god musician were still
alive,they
decorated him with one of their highest cultural decorations.Here my
conscience did remind me that narrow minded nationalism is very
dangerous.Perhaps Musa should have stayed in Senegal and his music
will
without doubt continue to get to the Gambia and inspire Gambian
musicians.I am
no fans of Musa,simply because the contents of his music do not contain
any
message of substance as far as i am concern.By the way "Ovare"
(working-Class)as far as I am concern is the best that musa has ever
produced.But the fact that we must not only sit and see injustice done to
some
one, made me interested in this case,as was the case of Donkey ,Syngle
etc.They lied to him,they handle him badly, and they are now hiding from
him.
Since I did not hear anything more on this case,I have my doubts if Musa
is
been heard,if so I would love to be inform,however not to take any
chance ,I
am appealing to Tombong Saidy ,who is not only the Director of our TV
station
but also a strong defender of the regime, to organized a session
between Musa
and the president so that he (MUSA)could remind the president of all the
promises.Do him a favour Tombong !!!
For Freedom
Saiks
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D.A.Jawo: A man,a mission
by Cherno Baba Jallow
in Detroit,USA
"You can't run tanks on hopes. You can't riddle people's yearnings
with bullets."
--- Pres. Ronald Reagan to Chinese leaders on Tiananmen
Square massacre.
Such was the toughness and outspokeness enshrined in the writings of
D.A.Jawo. A journalist of calibre and timbre,a man of unassuming character
and moral uprightness,Jawo recently became the first casualty of the change
of ownership of the Daily Observer Company. He was fired without good
reasons but apparently for his acerbic opinions and beliefs and ideas,on the
fossilization of his society. If you're looking for a prisoner of
conscience,Jawo is one.
Well,actually,he's no prisoner,but a victim - not of his own designs - but
those of the privileged few,luxuriating in covetous courtship with the
powerful,and hell-bent on stifling intellectual growth and freedom. Jawo may
have been driven to the edges of intellectual frustration, but the
ebullience and resilience in him,larger than imaginable,will rekindle his
hopes,put him once again,on the cusp of his mission: to speak the
unvarnished truth without fear or favour,in these days of Gambian political
insanity. And incivility.
While at the Observer,Jawo unwittingly earned himself the custodianship of
the newspaper's traditions and precepts. He infused responsibility and
accountability in all of us - young writers,occasionally prone to youthful
immaturities and peccadilloes yet working for a credibly serious newspaper.
He knew us all by our personae,typescripts,writing styles and work ethics.
And he would dutifully point out our errors and proffer solutions,and then
leave you to defend your position.
Jawo's writings as a reporter and columnist at the Observer had the cutting
edge of truth. He never shied away from speaking his mind even if the scales
of public opinion were against him. That's one of the traits of a good
columnist: readiness to grapple with any issues whether controversial or
inflammatory of majoritarian tyranny.
And Jawo was such good columnist. He wrote with verve and
enthuasism,profundity and clarity,honesty and objectivity. He combined
toughness and civility,which made his acerbic writings painfully
irresistible,instructively unputdownable. Read this:
"The AFPRC also promised us that openness,transparency and accountability
will be the hallmarks of the regime, but it appears that there is quite a
lot left to be desired in that regard. We have witnessed the summary
dismissal of senior civil servants and other republic servants,and others
have been arrested and detained without anyone caring to tell us the reasons
for such drastic actions." Jawo was doing a stocktaking of the AFPRC'S 100
days in power in 1994. Five years later,his words still have a ring of truth
about current political realities in our nation.
But Jawo had one skill that many columnists do not have: he had ways of
telling you 'go to hell' and still have you come back to him looking for
friendship. Do you want a proof of that? Just see how he single-handedly
challenged State House Imam Abdoulie Fatty on his fanatical
rabble-rousings,which Jawo considered to be inimical to Islamic
sanity,secular unity and societal progress. In return,the Imam "threatened"
Jawo,but later denied he ever did so. He said he would be happy to meet Jawo
and even shake hands with him.
Imam Fatty's overt change of heart was not because he wittingly submitted
himself to self-scrutiny,but because he discovered his threats could not
frighten Jawo into silence;that Jawo was a mountain that didn't move. He was
rock-solid in his opinions on the actions of the Imam. Jawo was not the type
of reporter or columnist easily brow-beaten into reticence. Speak his mind
he must!
I recall with great nostalgia my days at the Observer with Jawo. If he was
not editing news reports,he was always busy scribbling notes which he would
later develop into a thought-provoking essay or commentary. His eyes gazing
above the rims of his lenses,adorned with his grizzled hair,Jawo would
always engage us in journalistic dialogue on issues of the day. He would ask
probing questions and then a proliferation of ideas would follow. We never
always agreed with him,but oftentimes we listened with painstaking
attention,as he argued his points.
My respect for Jawo increased when, out of sheer ethica values,he stood by
me during my confrontation with the then Acting Nigerian High Commissioner
Goffrey Teneilabe. The High Commissioner was incensed by an article I wrote
in my column in 1995 lambasting his propagandist diplomacy at the behest of
Sani Abacha,Nigeria's most brutal military dictator since Ironsi in 1966.
I wrote: "Time after time,the Acting Nigerian High Commissioner,more
loquacious than profound,has put up a spirited defence in favour of the
Abacha regime. The Abuja administration is constantly proffered panegyric
stakes. And anything critical of it is viewed disdainfully." The High
Commisioner went bonkers! He threatened to sue me and the Daily Observer
Company,for libel? We wondered.
Granted,facts and Almighty God were on my side,and I had received tremendous
support from Nigerians in the streets,I still was visibly shaken by the
threat of a suit. Here was a young columnist taking to task a high
commissioner of the most powerful country in West Africa. I didn't want to
go through all the rigmarole of court proceedings;it was going to waste my
time and delay my efforts to pursue university education abroad,I lamented.
And I was concerned that my family,which was always opposed to my journalism
career,would have had more genuine reasons why I needed to quit the
profession.
But Jawo determinedly pep talked me out of my emotional distress. "You have
nothing to fear," he reassured me. "Your opinions are your opinions," he
added. He reasoned that to put me on trial for my opinions,expressed within
the ambits of the law,would be a travesty, and that the Nigerian High
Commission was simply fighting a rearguard situation.
Up till I left The Gambia in 1996,nobody would tell me anything more about a
lawsuit from the Nigerian High Commission. An informed source would later
tell me the suit-threat had been dropped,and the High Commissioner had
simply lodged a complaint against me at the Foreign Affairs Ministry on
Marina Parade.
Jawo's moral support was very instrumental. It energized my zeal to pen down
yet more groundbreaking articles. He dusted off old copies of the AfricaNow
and New African magazines from his drawers and handed them to me. His wish
was to open up my mind to the didactic writings of Peter Enahoro,Abdu Rahman
Babu and Phillip Ochieng,three great African columnists who made great
strides on Africa's journalistic scene in the 1970s and 80s. In those
days,Jawo was already writing in the opinion pages of these magazines. His
interest in journalism is as old as the hills.
Dismissal from the Observer will make not break Jawo. Always determined and
perceptive, he will bounce back and carry on with his mission. He is
undaunted. In the pursuit of truth he shall continue to persevere. And
survive. I think the world of Jawo.
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Hi Dr. Saine: I find your historical narrative on Gambia's foreign policy
since the coup quite interesting. But:
You reveal substantial loans that The Gambia has received from donor
countries. I wonder if your research could have pointed out if these loans
had been effeciently allocated to generate the revenue necessary to cushion
the deteriorating living standards of the people, and refund the lenders.
Your explanation in regards to the loans and grants The Gambia received is
as simplistic as it is devoid of sound economic analysis.
I am inclined to argue thus because over the years we have witnessed the
burgeoning of vainglorious projects in The Gambia, financed by the myriad of
foreign loans you've mentioned. These loans have not been utilised for their
intended purposes. Alas, they leave us heavily indebted. Gambia's
basket-size economy today is teetering on the brink of collapse.
Of course to ask you to go into the mechanics of loan allocation or
misallocation is to ask too much from you: your topic concerns the growth of
Gambian foreign relations from July 22, 1994 to current day. However, part
and parcel of the role of Gambian foreign policy since the coup is to look
for crumbs from foreign donors and then misuse them at the expense of the
majority. Unfortunately, your research didn't see that. Gambian foreign
policy is on the cheap. In my humble opinion.
On the whole, your research is scholarly. Keep it up.
Cherno Baba Jallow
Wayne State University
Detroit, Michigan
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Hi Folks,=20
I stumbled on the appended article on the WWW.... Here it goes folks
unedited!
Cheers,
M.K. Saidy
------------------
Happy New-Year folks, although the year is already old. May we all be
blessed this year and in the new millennium. Let us thank God for 1998.
It was the year conquered by pornography; the year the evil genie
sneaked into our television sets, computers and radios, without giving
us much choice. A year dedicated to sleazy Bill, Tripped Monica, Kinky
Starr and hellish Republicans. It was a year too much; too full; and
the drama is still playing itself out. May God give us the wisdom to
know when enough is enough.
I have the Oval Office night outs to thank for bringing the issue of
female sexuality to my mind once again. The expression of female
sexuality has always been predicated on men; their whims and caprices
often aided and abetted by uninformed women. Sometimes women are
themselves the advocates of injustices foisted on fellow women, and
this applies to the issue of Female Circumcision and other wicked acts.
Recently Female Circumcision has generated widespread interest in the
West, and also in the minds of women activists in countries where it is
practiced. Before I bring my emotions to bear on the subject, I would
love to elucidate on the practice for the benefit of those who are not
familiar with it and the evils attendant upon it. Such people might
find here, some useful information regarding various forms of Female
Circumcision, as practiced in Africa, the Middle East and parts of the=20
Far East.=20
There are three main forms of female circumcision:
(1) The removal of the tip of the clitoris, or the prepuce. This is the
type commonly practiced in Southwestern Nigeria; (2) the removal of the
entire clitoris and the adjacent labia. This is the preferred method in
Senegal and Kenya; (3) infibulation or the removal of the clitoris, the
labia and scraping of the vulva, with the remaining fold of skin sewn
across the vagina, leaving a tiny hole for the passage of urine and
menstrual blood. This is done in Egypt, and it's sometimes called
'Pharaonic circumcision'.=20
Female Circumcision in any of these forms is an unjust traditional
practice, although efforts have been made by men -- as in other things
-- to put a religious face to it, in order to justify its continuity.
Gratefully, activists are now aware that the practice is purely
traditional and is not a requirement of religion. The mere recognition
of the fact that female circumcision is merely something that is firmly
rooted in people's customs and traditions, and has no 'divine' origin,
has made it a little easier to embark on a massive campaign to stamp it
out. For indeed the question needs to be asked: What has religion got
to do with Female Circumcision? This is just a practice invented by men
to ensure faithfulness to them by their wives in marriage, and to
ensure virginity in girls, until they are ripe for marriage.=20
There can be no religious justification -- or requirement --for a
calculated attempt to reduce female libido. It can even be argued that
the practice is anti-religious, in the sense that by insisting on it,
man wants to destroy or mutilate something that the Almighty, in His
wisdom, found fit to endow women with, at creation! Additionally, it
must be pointed out that as a matter of simple fact, no one, except a
woman herself, is morally responsible for keeping her sexuality in
check. Circumcision, as a means of discouraging promiscuity and/or
adultery, is medieval and barbaric and it is nothing other than a physical
and psychological assault on defenseless girls at an age when they are
most vulnerable to the cruelty of adults.
Growing up, I was ignorant about circumcision. I had nothing against
it, in that I viewed it as a "normal" procedure. Removal of the prepuce
is the type that is practiced in Southwestern Nigeria where I hailed
from. There, babies (both male and female) are routinely circumcised in
the first two weeks of life, and I grew up believing that this was the
"normal" way of starting off life in infants. It was a great social
occasion, in fact -- men entertained their friends to drinks in
celebration of the event, and everyone had a lot of special dishes to
eat. So I grew up witnessing -- and dismissing -- the innocent cries of
babies passing through this ugly ritual. In my part of the world we
never even knew there were people who did not carry out the practice,
for some sly person had figured out that if it was done at a very early
age, it would become part of us all!=20
I had no idea I was missing anything until I visited a friend's house
in Northeastern Nigeria in my early twenties. I saw my friend giving
her daughter a cold bath that sunny afternoon. As she was cleaning the
child's genitals, I saw the girl move in an unfamiliar way. I asked her mot=
her
(a nurse) "Is anything the matter? She told me "She's just tickled". I
never asked her why, but I was intrigued, for I had never been tickled
so intensely when I did my personal hygiene. That singular occurrence
aroused my interest and prompted me to search for information.=20
Good people, I love the way I am, because what one does not know, never
hurts. As far as I know I am total and complete. Perhaps I should be
grateful that the local midwife was kind to me. As it is, she must have
cut off only a tiny little thing off. I can declare wholly that she was
very unsuccessful in reducing or modifying my libido. I have
continued to enjoy the heavenly feeling of true orgasmic ecstasy. The
ugly tradition my parents complied with is of no effect on me. But I
must admit I have wondered, since I got married, whether sex would have
been a lot more fulfilling were one not circumcised at all? I have
since dismissed it from my mind, and today, I imagine it no more than I
do imagine myself as a 6ft 2" tall, size 8 lady. I have asked, though,
what I would I have done if I had given birth to a girl in my home
country, under the watchful eyes of my family and neighbors? I thank God I
do not have to take that decision, but I think I would have gone all the
way to protect my daughter's femininity and bear the social consequences.=
=20
I must emphasize that in my view, Female Circumcision is not the answer
to the promiscuity of our generation that is threatening to tear apart
the moral fabric of society. The removal of functioning parts of the
genitalia in this crusade is unnecessary, for all it amounts to is
oppression of women. Promiscuity is a matter of upbringing and
attitude, and physical mutilation in an attempt to curb it must be
stopped. There is no purpose served, by perpetuating traditions that
seek to regulate or control the body, or the sexuality, of the
individual. My sexual conduct today is shaped by my religious beliefs
and by words from my parents. The anatomical removal of my prepuce has
nothing to do with it. Women can reach orgasm through mere petting and
kissing, can't they? Even fantasizing in the mind can do it. How much
more actual penetration -- with or without prepuce/clitoris?=20
It is unfortunate that women themselves, because they tend to be so
unwilling to discuss their sexual lives with honesty, or at best, touch
upon it fleetingly, in an embarrassed manner, constitute the greatest
impediment to the eradication of this evil practice. They have helped
in no small way to propagate the myths surrounding female
circumcision. I remember being told that a child "would die if its head
touched the clitoris during childbirth"! There are other similarly
useless excuses for the practice. In Western Nigeria, for instance --
which I am most familiar with -- women in general, and the circumcision
practitioners themselves, are ignorant of the real implications of
female circumcision and the health risks associated with it.=20
Male territorial behavior has always advanced the view that the
clitoris is a dangerous element of the female anatomy, even in the
western world. Sigmund Freud the famous psychologist, in his book,
Sexuality and the Psychology of Love, "elimination of clitoral
sexuality is a precondition for the development of femininity". Imagine
that coming from such a renowned source. In writing this, I condemn
female circumcision of any kind. I denounce it as a form of advanced
terrorism visited on women to prevent them from having a wholesome
life. I urge us all to campaign against this unfortunate practice and
to get rid of it. Its long-term complications, such as sexual
frigidity, pelvic and obstetric complications, as well as its social
consequences, have ruined many of the very marriages it was meant to
protect.=20
Our people do need to be educated on the dangers of Female
Circumcision. It is a deep-seated problem and only a grassroots
educational approach, that will take all aspects of our culture and
belief systems into consideration can eradicate it. It is my belief
that, God has not created anything that is without a purpose. Some may
not be advanced enough to know the use of a particular organ, but that
does not mean that it is useless. In the case of the clitoris, there is
absolutely no excuse to excise it, for the clitoris, with its massive
collection of nerve endings, was created for the sole purpose of
generating pleasure for the woman and its function is not hidden from
us. Therefore, cutting off this vital organ is nothing other than the
exaltation of cruelty. The clitoris needs no modification in size,
shape Or function. Away with this tortuous practice of cutting it off!
Bamidele Ademola-Olateju =A9 1999
P.S To my brother and friend, the veiled literary giant in the open.
You have read this and told me to post it and I refused. Now I have, in
the search of money, never mind that NASDAQ did it to me than you:-) I
love you.
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"Global feminism: Whose agenda?"
By Patience Akpan
University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada.
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The language: The practice has always been referred to as "barbaric." And my
usual question has been, "barbaric on whose say-so?" Is it barbaric because
"western feminists" and their elitist counterparts in the Third World say
so? Is this the only way we can linguistically frame this debate, or
describe this practice? This is the word that was used to describe us
Africans and our way of life when the colonialists (under the guise of
Christian mission) first arrived our shores. In fact, not only our way of
life was barbaric, WE were barbaric. And now we have unreflectively taken on
this ethnocentric language in our discourse about female circumcision,
rituals of widowhood and other such practices that seem "alien" to the West.
We have allowed western activists around this issue area to set the agenda
for us and we have taken on the discourse without reflecting on its
linguistic and cultural implications. Let's consider for a moment, a
practice that I consider absolutely odd here in North America.
On a Saturday morning, parents herd their children off to McDonalds to stuff
them with junk food. In my society, this is considered an appalling
lifestyle. What kind of parent would do such an "immoral" thing? For many
women who work outside the home, and who may not always have time for
elaborate breakfasts, Saturday morning is the time to make up. In my
household, on Saturday morning, we made akara and ogi which was a real treat
for the kids. Of course, we couldn't ever buy street akara. What horrors!!!
In the evening, we baked bread to last for the following week, and Sunday
lunch was a real celebration. The only concession to the strange lifestyle
of eating out, was bringing home suya bought from the nearest Suya Mallam
(one of the best in Lagos, by the way). Once in a while, we would go to the
great isi ewu joint on Tonade Street, Ikeja, but it was definitely NOT a
family outing.. So I come here and see all these strange behavior by parents
who generally don't cook. If they are not feeding their children at a
fast-food restaurant, they are giving them one-minute microwave dinners. I
consider this practice absolutely "barbaric." That is, if that's the word
for anything that seems "strange" to one's usual way of life.
Ideology: The argument, and as has been distilled here even in this
mini-debate on the subject, is usually about individual's rights to choose.
We are told that individual rights should come before societal or communal
rights -- individuals before society. Part of the women emancipatory project
is about the right to choose. It therefore fits into feminist theory and
practice to fight against any practice that denies women that right to
choose. And female circumcision is clearly one in which the woman can not
choose, because majority of female circumcision is done when the woman is
still an infant. Tunde Giwa paints the picture of the innocent, trusting,
helpless infant who gets "mutilated" by her barbaric society even before she
has a say in the matter (or in any matter, for that matter!). This is a
gripping picture, and one that tugs at the heart of every "civilized" human
being.
However, this focus on individual rights is another attempt to impose an
ideology that is "alien" to us. Individualism is to western as
communitarianism is to African. Each has its shortcomings, but we should not
ignore the negative aspects of individualism and the positive aspect of
communitarianism. In our societies, we speak about societal/communal rights,
and not individual rights. And communitarianism, with all its negatives, has
worked for us. In a society such as Nigeria, where there are no social
safety nets, or any integrated sociopolitical system that works FOR the
people, our people have survived so far because of this sense of community.
I read a study somewhere
that showed that the average income earner in Nigeria is financially
responsible for the welfare of nine people. I didn't get to see the full
report -- a Federal Office of Statistics study - - but I doubt that the nine
people are all members of the income earner's nuclear family. In some cases,
the nine people may not even be a direct family member, especially where the
person is single. It is this communitarian spirit that would make someone
pack a bag and go to Lagos, to stay with a "brother" or "sister" who is
often just someone from the same village, confident that he/she will not be
turned away. We lived in a three-bedroom house (or bungalow, as we say it
back home) in Lagos. At every given moment, there was always at least one
"sister" or "brother" staying with us. At a time, we used to jokingly say
our house was a "bus stop -- people get off the bus and stop here." Contrast
this with this colleague of mine here who gave up her apartment and moved
into her grandparents' basement to cut costs. She pays rent -- a reduced
rent, but a rent -- to live with her mother's parents. And she is cool about
it -- it's only natural. She even defended it when I failed in the effort to
pretend I wasn't shocked.
There is a lot of value to individualism, and we can import it to our
society. But are we ready to go the whole hog? Can we pay the cost of
individualism? I seriously doubt that. So when we harp on the
individual-rights aspect of this discourse on female circumcision, we should
be conscious of the ramifications of individualism for a society that is
still uncertain about how to achieve an organic-type state, in which we will
be fully aware of ourselves as citizen-individuals in a relationship to a
state that works for everyone. Until then, we will continue to depend on our
sense of community to see us through, and any advocacy for individualism
that ignores the benefits of communitarianism will hurt us more than help.
Prioritization of issues: The question here is, is this the only issue? Why
do "western feminists" privilege this issue out of the myriad of ills that
afflict the African woman? It is amazing the amount of activism and verbiage
that has gone into the question of female circumcision. If you do a keyword
search anywhere (a library or WWW), you will come up with tons of
materials -- and even more, if one is searching for female genital
mutilation (the phrase "western" feminists love so much). A keyword search
on "women, poverty and Nigeria" will throw up far less materials. Why is
that so? Should I believe that the "problem" of female circumcision is more
important than the problem of poverty among our women? If the activists
around female circumcision care so much about our women, how come they are
not directing their efforts at the more urgent issues of infant and maternal
mortalities (the rates are higher in Africa than in any other region of the
world)?
Our women still routinely die during childbirth. A higher percentage of our
children do not survive their fifth birthday. Our women still live in
economic bondage -- many are stuck in emotionally and physically abusive
marriages because they can't afford to leave. And recall that in many
African societies, and in Nigeria specifically, our women are the ones who
"leave" when a marriage fails. They are the ones who return, penniless, to
their father's family leaving behind their youth and years of helping the
man attain his goals. In many cases, she is asked to leave with the
children, and she spends the remaining years of her life struggling to raise
them. (Of course, when they become adults, they are returning to their
fathers, who celebrate the "reunion" without any pang of conscience for
abandoning them and their mothers). Many African girls still do not have
access to education because, if the resources are scarce, and it comes down
to a choice between her and a brother, she will be asked to stay at home. In
many cases, she is married off and her bride price is used to fund her
brother's education. Bride price, that's another issue that should agitate
the minds of activists who truly care about our women.
There's nothing wrong with the exchange of gifts at marriage, etc., but
there's everything wrong with the "possession mentality" that bride price
creates. Where I was growing up, it was common to hear a man scream at his
wife: "I paid (x amount) to marry you, so don't give me nonsense." There's
even a closer-home example. A cousin of mine got into one of those nightmare
marriages, but she couldn't get out of it. Why? She lost her father during
the war, and she and her brother and sisters were raised by our grandfather
(her maternal, and my paternal). When she got married, the bride price was
used to pay her brother's school fees. And so when that marriage hit the
rocks, she got out of it the only way our tradition allows. She got married
to another man and his money was used to pay off the first man. But if the
first husband was bad, the second was a suitor straight from the pits of
hell. Once, while I was on a visit to the village, this man came visiting. I
saw him, listened to what he had to say, the way he talked about my cousin
and that day, I knew what it means to feel like strangling someone. I
resisted the urge only because I didn't think the idiot-ikot-iwa was worth
going to prison for!!!
Finally, the incidence of female circumcision has reduced in many parts of
the continent, and it certainly has nothing to do with western feminists
labeling it "barbaric." As I argue elsewhere, the practice no longer has
social capital. In my society -- one of those often cited as the
headquarters of female circumcision -- the practice was associated with
femininity and everything that is good about a woman. It was a rite of
passage to womanhood -- and something many women looked forward to. It was
accompanied by the fattening room ritual which prepared the girl for life as
a woman and wife. (In my society, not all women were circumcised in
infancy -- others went through it at the nexus between adolescence and
womanhood, usually, between the ages of 13 and 15.) An uncircumcised woman
was considered "unclean" and if unclean, therefore unmarriageable. In the
past, as it is now, the only way a woman could get some sense of
independence and attain a certain level of economic comfort was to get
married. The idea was that the man would provide for her -- though as I look
back, I realize that that was a myth of the patriarchy.
The woman was nothing but an economic slave for the man who needed free
labor. Often, the woman's condition was even worse than if she had done the
same thing she was doing in marriage for herself as a single woman. But it
was also a society where marriage was what every adult had to do. It was
like paying taxes in Canada. You just had to do it, even if it killed you.
Again, in retrospect, I don't recall anyone in my grandmother's generation
who was never-married single. The few women in my mother's generation I know
who are single are either divorced or widowed. None was never unmarried. An
unmarried woman in my society (as in many societies) was (and in many places
still is) considered a social misfit. Against this backdrop therefore no
parents wanted to render their daughter unmarriageable, by not circumcising
her.
But all these have changed. Many women of my generation were not
circumcised, and I don't know any of my age mates (including the
pre-literate ones) who have circumcised their daughters. The practice has
lost its socio-cultural relevance because with formal education, a woman can
provide for herself, generally speaking. Since many literate women are
likely to marry like-minded men, parents generally no longer feel that their
daughter would be considered unclean by her future husband if she wasn't
circumcised. While researching a paper on this subject last year, I spoke
with a retiring professor of anthropology and nursing at the University of
Alberta, Prof. Pamela Brink. She spent a post-doc year in my community in
the mid-70s researching the fattening-room practices among our people. I
didn't meet her then (but I heard of the "white woman" living in the next
village). She knows so much about my culture that it's always hilarious when
our conversations turn to "our people" as she refers to "my" people.
One of the things Professor Brink told me is that the Annang people have for
years now been doing "ritual female circumcision." Rather than "mutilate"
anything, the woman who does it, just draws a small thin line on the inner
thigh. A trickle of blood flows out and this is rubbed against the
circumcised female's body. And the woman/girl goes into the fattening room
(the duration of which has also been reduced to anywhere between one week
and one month -- down from the one year that it used to be). On the day of
"outing" (similar to the debuts of western girls not too long ago), the
girl/woman is taken to church in a white dress and a communal
celebration follows. It seemed the dominant religion n my area (Catholicism)
found a way of "sanitizing" this "barbaric" practice. This seems to be a
perfect middle ground between keeping a custom that holds the people
together without inflicting any violence on women.
Agreed, female circumcision is still practiced in its extremities -- as
Bamidele has listed -- in other parts of the country, and Africa. I agree
that it is really a "mutilation" in some parts of Africa. And I am NOT
making an advocacy for the practice. Neither do I call it "barbaric." My
ambivalence on this subject is deliberate. However, the point of this
insertion into the discourse is basically this: there are more urgent
problems facing African women than female circumcision. While this subject
may be extremely titillating, and satisfying to western feminists who have
raised the rhetoric on "female sexuality" to a religion, African women
joining the discourse should be conscious of the implications of the
language and ideology that frame this debate. At the level of practice,
African women, feminists or not, must refocus their energies on the fact
that the sisters on whose behalf they speak daily face more mundane, but
vitally urgent problems than "female sexuality." African women do not have
the socioeconomic luxury that western women have to spend their energies on
sexuality. For western women, if all else fails, the state will pick up the
tabs. They can then have the time to attend rallies, and carry placards that
extol the virtues of "right over my body." African women will get to this
point (and I pray the day comes soon), but for now, there are more important
things to attend to. For what will it profit a woman if she has the rights
over a body that has been wasted by preventable diseases and malnutrition?
I attended a talk on female circumcision last year. After the four "African"
speakers (including a man) had finished, someone (a white woman) in the
audience made a comment, the thrust of which was: "orgasm is every woman's
fundamental human right." Later, I told her, "go tell that to the woman who
is watching her child die from a preventable disease because she has no
money to take her to the hospital." Tell that to the woman who wakes up at 5
a.m. and treks 10 miles to fetch a pot of water; treks more miles in search
of firewood. Tell that to the woman who spends an entire day in the market
and ends up selling nothing, and returns home without buying any food for
the children because no one will sell to her on credit anymore. Tell that to
the woman whose husband has thrown her out of the home they struggled for 30
years to build. Tell that to the woman who, with four children trailing her,
walks the streets of any African city begging for "alms." I thought of, but
didn't tell her: "when you have buried yet a fifth child, put your
malnourished and Kwashiokored children to bed, on an empty stomach --
again -- you can then talk to an African woman about orgasm."
What am I saying, that "female sexuality" is bad? Oh no, I won't even go
there! Sexuality is whatever each of us chooses to make of it. We have the
right to define it whatever way it suits us, but not the right to impose our
particular definition of it on other women. Personally though, at the level
of practice, if I had the resources, I would first set up a revolving loan
scheme for the women in my village, install labor and time-saving devices
for their palm-oil and garri-processing work, ensure a direct supply of
fertilizer for their overworked farms, build a primary health care centre
for them, drill huge communal water boreholes in the middle of the village,
and set up a scholarship fund so every girl in the village who wants to go
to school can. After that, I can talk to them about "female sexuality."
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Hello Cherno:
Thanks for your comments, your points are well noted. The concerns you
raised regarding the projects have been addressed elsewhere and the
focus of this paper was to identify in broad strokes, AFPRC/APRC foreign
policies. Frankly, I have raised many concerns about Gambia's debt and
the projects you mentioned but I did not wish to repete myself. My last
artcles on "Human Rights" and "Flawed Democratic Transitions in Ghana
and Gambia" look at the projects in a balanced way.
Your point about the debt however is important and I will make mention
of it when I revise the paper, which I am doing now.
Abdoulaye
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>
> Hi Dr. Saine: I find your historical narrative on Gambia's foreign policy
> since the coup quite interesting. But:
> You reveal substantial loans that The Gambia has received from donor
> countries. I wonder if your research could have pointed out if these loans
> had been effeciently allocated to generate the revenue necessary to cushion
> the deteriorating living standards of the people, and refund the lenders.
> Your explanation in regards to the loans and grants The Gambia received is
> as simplistic as it is devoid of sound economic analysis.
>
> I am inclined to argue thus because over the years we have witnessed the
> burgeoning of vainglorious projects in The Gambia, financed by the myriad of
> foreign loans you've mentioned. These loans have not been utilised for their
> intended purposes. Alas, they leave us heavily indebted. Gambia's
> basket-size economy today is teetering on the brink of collapse.
>
> Of course to ask you to go into the mechanics of loan allocation or
> misallocation is to ask too much from you: your topic concerns the growth of
> Gambian foreign relations from July 22, 1994 to current day. However, part
> and parcel of the role of Gambian foreign policy since the coup is to look
> for crumbs from foreign donors and then misuse them at the expense of the
> majority. Unfortunately, your research didn't see that. Gambian foreign
> policy is on the cheap. In my humble opinion.
>
> On the whole, your research is scholarly. Keep it up.
>
> Cherno Baba Jallow
> Wayne State University
> Detroit, Michigan
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That was a well written piece about D.A. Jawo. I wonder what has happened to
the petition to reinstate him that was signed by most of the Observer
employees.
God Bless and peace Be Upon All
Alasana Bah
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> D.A.Jawo: A man,a mission
>
> by Cherno Baba Jallow
> in Detroit,USA
>
> "You can't run tanks on hopes. You can't riddle people's yearnings
>with bullets."
> --- Pres. Ronald Reagan to Chinese leaders on
>Tiananmen
>Square massacre.
>
>Such was the toughness and outspokeness enshrined in the writings of
>D.A.Jawo. A journalist of calibre and timbre,a man of unassuming character
>and moral uprightness,Jawo recently became the first casualty of the change
>of ownership of the Daily Observer Company. He was fired without good
>reasons but apparently for his acerbic opinions and beliefs and ideas,on
>the
>fossilization of his society. If you're looking for a prisoner of
>conscience,Jawo is one.
>
>Well,actually,he's no prisoner,but a victim - not of his own designs - but
>those of the privileged few,luxuriating in covetous courtship with the
>powerful,and hell-bent on stifling intellectual growth and freedom. Jawo
>may
>have been driven to the edges of intellectual frustration, but the
>ebullience and resilience in him,larger than imaginable,will rekindle his
>hopes,put him once again,on the cusp of his mission: to speak the
>unvarnished truth without fear or favour,in these days of Gambian political
>insanity. And incivility.
>
>While at the Observer,Jawo unwittingly earned himself the custodianship of
>the newspaper's traditions and precepts. He infused responsibility and
>accountability in all of us - young writers,occasionally prone to youthful
>immaturities and peccadilloes yet working for a credibly serious newspaper.
>He knew us all by our personae,typescripts,writing styles and work ethics.
>And he would dutifully point out our errors and proffer solutions,and then
>leave you to defend your position.
>
>Jawo's writings as a reporter and columnist at the Observer had the cutting
>edge of truth. He never shied away from speaking his mind even if the
>scales
>of public opinion were against him. That's one of the traits of a good
>columnist: readiness to grapple with any issues whether controversial or
>inflammatory of majoritarian tyranny.
>
>And Jawo was such good columnist. He wrote with verve and
>enthuasism,profundity and clarity,honesty and objectivity. He combined
>toughness and civility,which made his acerbic writings painfully
>irresistible,instructively unputdownable. Read this:
>
>"The AFPRC also promised us that openness,transparency and accountability
>will be the hallmarks of the regime, but it appears that there is quite a
>lot left to be desired in that regard. We have witnessed the summary
>dismissal of senior civil servants and other republic servants,and others
>have been arrested and detained without anyone caring to tell us the
>reasons
>for such drastic actions." Jawo was doing a stocktaking of the AFPRC'S 100
>days in power in 1994. Five years later,his words still have a ring of
>truth
>about current political realities in our nation.
>
>But Jawo had one skill that many columnists do not have: he had ways of
>telling you 'go to hell' and still have you come back to him looking for
>friendship. Do you want a proof of that? Just see how he single-handedly
>challenged State House Imam Abdoulie Fatty on his fanatical
>rabble-rousings,which Jawo considered to be inimical to Islamic
>sanity,secular unity and societal progress. In return,the Imam "threatened"
>Jawo,but later denied he ever did so. He said he would be happy to meet
>Jawo
>and even shake hands with him.
>
>Imam Fatty's overt change of heart was not because he wittingly submitted
>himself to self-scrutiny,but because he discovered his threats could not
>frighten Jawo into silence;that Jawo was a mountain that didn't move. He
>was
>rock-solid in his opinions on the actions of the Imam. Jawo was not the
>type
>of reporter or columnist easily brow-beaten into reticence. Speak his mind
>he must!
>
>I recall with great nostalgia my days at the Observer with Jawo. If he was
>not editing news reports,he was always busy scribbling notes which he
>would
>later develop into a thought-provoking essay or commentary. His eyes gazing
>above the rims of his lenses,adorned with his grizzled hair,Jawo would
>always engage us in journalistic dialogue on issues of the day. He would
>ask
>probing questions and then a proliferation of ideas would follow. We never
>always agreed with him,but oftentimes we listened with painstaking
>attention,as he argued his points.
>
>My respect for Jawo increased when, out of sheer ethica values,he stood by
>me during my confrontation with the then Acting Nigerian High Commissioner
>Goffrey Teneilabe. The High Commissioner was incensed by an article I wrote
>in my column in 1995 lambasting his propagandist diplomacy at the behest of
>Sani Abacha,Nigeria's most brutal military dictator since Ironsi in 1966.
>
>I wrote: "Time after time,the Acting Nigerian High Commissioner,more
>loquacious than profound,has put up a spirited defence in favour of the
>Abacha regime. The Abuja administration is constantly proffered panegyric
>stakes. And anything critical of it is viewed disdainfully." The High
>Commisioner went bonkers! He threatened to sue me and the Daily Observer
>Company,for libel? We wondered.
>
>Granted,facts and Almighty God were on my side,and I had received
>tremendous
>support from Nigerians in the streets,I still was visibly shaken by the
>threat of a suit. Here was a young columnist taking to task a high
>commissioner of the most powerful country in West Africa. I didn't want to
>go through all the rigmarole of court proceedings;it was going to waste my
>time and delay my efforts to pursue university education abroad,I lamented.
>And I was concerned that my family,which was always opposed to my
>journalism
>career,would have had more genuine reasons why I needed to quit the
>profession.
>
>But Jawo determinedly pep talked me out of my emotional distress. "You have
>nothing to fear," he reassured me. "Your opinions are your opinions," he
>added. He reasoned that to put me on trial for my opinions,expressed within
>the ambits of the law,would be a travesty, and that the Nigerian High
>Commission was simply fighting a rearguard situation.
>
>Up till I left The Gambia in 1996,nobody would tell me anything more about
>a
>lawsuit from the Nigerian High Commission. An informed source would later
>tell me the suit-threat had been dropped,and the High Commissioner had
>simply lodged a complaint against me at the Foreign Affairs Ministry on
>Marina Parade.
>
>Jawo's moral support was very instrumental. It energized my zeal to pen
>down
>yet more groundbreaking articles. He dusted off old copies of the AfricaNow
>and New African magazines from his drawers and handed them to me. His wish
>was to open up my mind to the didactic writings of Peter Enahoro,Abdu
>Rahman
>Babu and Phillip Ochieng,three great African columnists who made great
>strides on Africa's journalistic scene in the 1970s and 80s. In those
>days,Jawo was already writing in the opinion pages of these magazines. His
>interest in journalism is as old as the hills.
>
>Dismissal from the Observer will make not break Jawo. Always determined and
>perceptive, he will bounce back and carry on with his mission. He is
>undaunted. In the pursuit of truth he shall continue to persevere. And
>survive. I think the world of Jawo.
>
>
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Madiba,
Thanks for th posting on FGM. I will post my reactions to Patience's
views on "WHY FGM IS NOT A PRIORITY".
Nice piece from both writers.
The struggles of women should not be compromized.
Thanks again.
Mabs.
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Latjorr,
Here we go again. You have another business to come up with. Your business
ambitions can never be under estimated. I admire oyu for that.
You had contract with the Gambia government bringing the National Troupe to
the United States and when things failed you called the police on the Embassy
and I came to this List to get an explanation from you and never had you
responded. I am not sure if anyone should believe any one who could break
contracts without explanations with any business ideas. What makes you think
that you will be trusted if your resume contains references like that?
Just a question. And also I am not going to let your self-exiled from the L
and coming back let me forget to post to you again, my concerns on the
contract you had with the government on the National Troupe issue. Also the
Secretary of Tourism named you as one of the contacts on the Roots Festival
homecoming this year, I would want to know what contacts and if any contracts
again there might exists.
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Hi, Gambia-L!
I thought you might find this Detroit News feature interesting. Check it out.
URL: http://detnews.com/1999/features/9906/20/06190017.htm
Enjoy,
Abdoulie Jallow
(Brought to you by The staff at Detroit News Online)
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I am looking for my friends,both of whom i lost in contact when i moved
from Illinois to Ohio.They are Ebrima Ceesay and Musa Sowe. They both
graduated from Nusrat High School. Ebrima Ceesay used to live at Serrekunda
(Latri-kunda Sabji) while Musa Sowe is from Brikama. Musa Sowe is currently
living in North Carolina at Raleigh.If any body know either of them,please
give them my E-mail address or my phone number. By the way i am Sambou
Jaiteh
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time i send something,some one put an attachment to the same heading.
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> From: chernob jallow <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Tribute to D.A.Jawo
> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 1:54 PM
>
> D.A.Jawo: A man,a mission
>
> by Cherno Baba Jallow
> in Detroit,USA
>
> "You can't run tanks on hopes. You can't riddle people's
yearnings
> with bullets."
> --- Pres. Ronald Reagan to Chinese leaders on
Tiananmen
> Square massacre.
>
> Such was the toughness and outspokeness enshrined in the writings of
> D.A.Jawo. A journalist of calibre and timbre,a man of unassuming
character
> and moral uprightness,Jawo recently became the first casualty of the
change
> of ownership of the Daily Observer Company. He was fired without good
> reasons but apparently for his acerbic opinions and beliefs and ideas,on
the
> fossilization of his society. If you're looking for a prisoner of
> conscience,Jawo is one.
>
> Well,actually,he's no prisoner,but a victim - not of his own designs -
but
> those of the privileged few,luxuriating in covetous courtship with the
> powerful,and hell-bent on stifling intellectual growth and freedom. Jawo
may
> have been driven to the edges of intellectual frustration, but the
> ebullience and resilience in him,larger than imaginable,will rekindle his
> hopes,put him once again,on the cusp of his mission: to speak the
> unvarnished truth without fear or favour,in these days of Gambian
political
> insanity. And incivility.
>
> While at the Observer,Jawo unwittingly earned himself the custodianship
of
> the newspaper's traditions and precepts. He infused responsibility and
> accountability in all of us - young writers,occasionally prone to
youthful
> immaturities and peccadilloes yet working for a credibly serious
newspaper.
> He knew us all by our personae,typescripts,writing styles and work
ethics.
> And he would dutifully point out our errors and proffer solutions,and
then
> leave you to defend your position.
>
> Jawo's writings as a reporter and columnist at the Observer had the
cutting
> edge of truth. He never shied away from speaking his mind even if the
scales
> of public opinion were against him. That's one of the traits of a good
> columnist: readiness to grapple with any issues whether controversial or
> inflammatory of majoritarian tyranny.
>
> And Jawo was such good columnist. He wrote with verve and
> enthuasism,profundity and clarity,honesty and objectivity. He combined
> toughness and civility,which made his acerbic writings painfully
> irresistible,instructively unputdownable. Read this:
>
> "The AFPRC also promised us that openness,transparency and accountability
> will be the hallmarks of the regime, but it appears that there is quite a
> lot left to be desired in that regard. We have witnessed the summary
> dismissal of senior civil servants and other republic servants,and others
> have been arrested and detained without anyone caring to tell us the
reasons
> for such drastic actions." Jawo was doing a stocktaking of the AFPRC'S
100
> days in power in 1994. Five years later,his words still have a ring of
truth
> about current political realities in our nation.
>
> But Jawo had one skill that many columnists do not have: he had ways of
> telling you 'go to hell' and still have you come back to him looking for
> friendship. Do you want a proof of that? Just see how he single-handedly
> challenged State House Imam Abdoulie Fatty on his fanatical
> rabble-rousings,which Jawo considered to be inimical to Islamic
> sanity,secular unity and societal progress. In return,the Imam
"threatened"
> Jawo,but later denied he ever did so. He said he would be happy to meet
Jawo
> and even shake hands with him.
>
> Imam Fatty's overt change of heart was not because he wittingly submitted
> himself to self-scrutiny,but because he discovered his threats could not
> frighten Jawo into silence;that Jawo was a mountain that didn't move. He
was
> rock-solid in his opinions on the actions of the Imam. Jawo was not the
type
> of reporter or columnist easily brow-beaten into reticence. Speak his
mind
> he must!
>
> I recall with great nostalgia my days at the Observer with Jawo. If he
was
> not editing news reports,he was always busy scribbling notes which he
would
> later develop into a thought-provoking essay or commentary. His eyes
gazing
> above the rims of his lenses,adorned with his grizzled hair,Jawo would
> always engage us in journalistic dialogue on issues of the day. He would
ask
> probing questions and then a proliferation of ideas would follow. We
never
> always agreed with him,but oftentimes we listened with painstaking
> attention,as he argued his points.
>
> My respect for Jawo increased when, out of sheer ethica values,he stood
by
> me during my confrontation with the then Acting Nigerian High
Commissioner
> Goffrey Teneilabe. The High Commissioner was incensed by an article I
wrote
> in my column in 1995 lambasting his propagandist diplomacy at the behest
of
> Sani Abacha,Nigeria's most brutal military dictator since Ironsi in 1966.
>
> I wrote: "Time after time,the Acting Nigerian High Commissioner,more
> loquacious than profound,has put up a spirited defence in favour of the
> Abacha regime. The Abuja administration is constantly proffered panegyric
> stakes. And anything critical of it is viewed disdainfully." The High
> Commisioner went bonkers! He threatened to sue me and the Daily Observer
> Company,for libel? We wondered.
>
> Granted,facts and Almighty God were on my side,and I had received
tremendous
> support from Nigerians in the streets,I still was visibly shaken by the
> threat of a suit. Here was a young columnist taking to task a high
> commissioner of the most powerful country in West Africa. I didn't want
to
> go through all the rigmarole of court proceedings;it was going to waste
my
> time and delay my efforts to pursue university education abroad,I
lamented.
> And I was concerned that my family,which was always opposed to my
journalism
> career,would have had more genuine reasons why I needed to quit the
> profession.
>
> But Jawo determinedly pep talked me out of my emotional distress. "You
have
> nothing to fear," he reassured me. "Your opinions are your opinions," he
> added. He reasoned that to put me on trial for my opinions,expressed
within
> the ambits of the law,would be a travesty, and that the Nigerian High
> Commission was simply fighting a rearguard situation.
>
> Up till I left The Gambia in 1996,nobody would tell me anything more
about a
> lawsuit from the Nigerian High Commission. An informed source would later
> tell me the suit-threat had been dropped,and the High Commissioner had
> simply lodged a complaint against me at the Foreign Affairs Ministry on
> Marina Parade.
>
> Jawo's moral support was very instrumental. It energized my zeal to pen
down
> yet more groundbreaking articles. He dusted off old copies of the
AfricaNow
> and New African magazines from his drawers and handed them to me. His
wish
> was to open up my mind to the didactic writings of Peter Enahoro,Abdu
Rahman
> Babu and Phillip Ochieng,three great African columnists who made great
> strides on Africa's journalistic scene in the 1970s and 80s. In those
> days,Jawo was already writing in the opinion pages of these magazines.
His
> interest in journalism is as old as the hills.
>
> Dismissal from the Observer will make not break Jawo. Always determined
and
> perceptive, he will bounce back and carry on with his mission. He is
> undaunted. In the pursuit of truth he shall continue to persevere. And
> survive. I think the world of Jawo.
>
>
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>If you see any one E-mail like this with an attachment do >not open
it.Last
>time i send something,some one put an attachment to the same heading.
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Please do not open the attachment of the second mail from Sambou with the
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Dear Coach,
It's good to hear from you. I gave permission to Cherno in Michigan to
connect me to the Gambian hotline, but am already regretting it, since so
much of what is being said on it is not too relevant to me. Besides, I
believe in action, not too much talk. Finally, I am too busy trying to
survive with my wife, many children and grand children to pay too much
attention on line. I do check my email each morning and each evening, but I
try not to spend more than five minutes each time, reading and replying
messages addressed to me, which are usually very few.
Thank you for your warning about the personal attacks on the G hotline. Now
you know I wouldn't be interested, for that is, as you well know, not the
way I do business. The problems of Africa are too great and too serious for
any African to spend time attacking another. I surely don't have the time
to invest in that. I hope people will come to realize that this great
Internet resource is very precious and should be used constructively.
As to your questions, I am not yet ready to visit that subject. I surely
will, some time in the future.
I trust all is well with you.
Sincerely,
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From: ebrima ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: den 22 juni 1999 09:03
Subject: Questions for Kenneth Y Best?
>Mr Best,
>
>This is Coach!! Long time no see!! Hope everything is going on smoothly.
>Anyway, I'll write privately, now that I've got your e-mail address, but I
>am sending this write up to this forum, otherwise known as Gambia L,
because
>the Observer issue/sale was raised here, some time ago.
>
>First of all, welcome to Gambia L, and I hope you'll find some of the
>postings/articles useful and informative.
>
>By the way, Gambia L is a forum/medium, where Gambians everywhere, and
>friends of the Gambia worldwide, exchange ideas, share information, engage
>in healthy debates etc.
>
>Although, I must warn you now, that sometimes, these discussions do
>degenerate into personal attacks. So one has to be very careful with what
>one sends to this forum.
>
>Anyway, one thing is clear, everybody is waiting to hear your side of the
>story, regarding the sale of the Daily Observer to our good friend, Amadou
>Samba.
>
>In my view, it would be both useful and helpful, if you could issue, as
soon
>as possible, a statement to the Gambian people, through this forum and
other
>media, explaining why you had to sell the Observer Company.
>
>The following questions arise, or come to one's mind:
>
>1. Why did you have to sell the Observer, in the first place?
> Did you know Amadou Samba has close links with the Jammeh regime?
>
>2. How was the sale conducted, especially given the fact that you
>were/are not in the Gambia? Was is advertised? Were there other
>bidders, apart from Amadou? Did you deal with Mr Samba yourself on the
>phone, or was there an intermediary or a go-between? Is it possible to name
>the intermediary.
>
>3. Are you aware that D.A Jawo has been sacked, shortly after the sale
>took place and also Baba Galleh Jallow had to tender his resignation,
>following Mr Jawo's dismissal? What is your reaction to these
>developments involving Jallow and Jawo?
>
>4.Some people are also curious to know how much was the Observer sold
for?
>
>5. Finally, being one of Africa's most respected veteran
>journalists/publishers, what message/advise would you have for the new
>management team at the Observer, the paper's faithful readers and the
>Government itself?
>
>Extend my warmest regards to your great wife, Mae Gene, and I eagerly
>looking forward to hearing your side of the story. I miss your excellent
and
>lucid writings/commentaries. Hope Gambia L would have some of them. A topic
>for you: Africa on the eve of the new millennium. Your thoughts.
>
>Ebrima ceesay,
>Birmingham, UK.
>
>PS: Dr Abdoulaye Saine, I always enjoy reading your useful publications.
>Again, this one on the Gambia's Foreign Policy was, as expected, a well
>researched and a well written paper. keep it up!
>
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Jaajef G-Lers,
For anyone on the L in the UK, this is a job opportunity with the Untied =
Kingdon Council for Overseas Student Affairs (UKCOSA) working on advice on =
all aspects of life for overseas students in the UK. It is, I think, based =
in London.
Yeenduleen ak jaama
Tony
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UKCOSA=27s Advice and Training Team is looking for
two Advice and Training Officers.
One is a new permanent post, the other is a 9-month locum to cover=20
maternity leave.
The Advice and Training Officers staff UKCOSA=27s Advice Lines, design=20
and deliver courses on our National Training Programme and write the=20
UKCOSA Briefing, Guidance Notes and update the UKCOSA Manual and its=20
electronic version, Onyx.
The annual salary range is =A321,324 - =A324,988 (this will be pro rata=20
for the locum post).=20
We should be happy to consider a secondment.
If you are interested, or if you know anyone who might be, please=20
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Tony Cisse <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Dear Tony,
However I did make it very clear that I am no fans of Musa simply because=
the
contents of his songs are of no interest to me,this I made very clear in =
my
posting.The reason for raising this issue is the fact that when he left D=
akar
to Banjul there were lots of expectations on his side and his Gambian fan=
s and
this expectations should be respected.There is something principle in thi=
s
case,he is been promised by a head of State and even if the situation cha=
nged
he deserve an explanation.This is what I am trying to say but not what
national decorations are all about.Now even president Jammeh is being ref=
erred
to as Dr jammeh.eh hee,obs
I hope that my point is clear now.
For Freedom
Saiks
Jaajef Saiks and all on the L,
I liked your piece about Musa Ngom and his difficulties, however I do not=
believe that despair is the order of the day on this. Musa has had many
ups and downs in his career, in Gambia as well as in Senegal. I can
remember meeting him in Dakar in one of his "down" periods when he
was at Grand Yoff and seeing him play a new years show in a small bar
of dubious reputation called "Columbia" at Djamnadjo in Senegal...a
contrast to other times when he has been one of the most influential
musicians around packing stadiums. However one of my favorite songs
he has written is very relevant; "Artiste" where he sings "Artist du
daanu, artist bu fonka liggeyam..."
Whilst I appreciate your point about broken promises, at the end of the
day being an artist is less about medals and national honours than about
the creative process and the response from the audience. One of the
best artists in Senegal is Ouza who to my knowledge has never been
given a medal, who has had his records banned, who has been
harrassed by the authorities, but who carries on a succssess because
"deff fonkk liggeyam". In the past, it seems that there has been an issue=
about the Gambian public recognising Gambian artists, whilst in Senegal
they were always more popular... I can remeber the same being true of
Ifangbondi... maybe the initiative of new music around Yellowgate might
reverse this trend, but I my opinion this whole issue is more about
self-pride and self-respect than about official patronage (which has
never really done much for artistic creativity anywhere), in the same
way as having Gambian images on Gambian stamps is.
Anyway I truly believe that whatever the situation Musa "deff fonkk
liggeyam" and therefore "daanu bi du yagg"
Yeendu ak jaam
Tony
>>> saiks samateh <[log in to unmask]> 21/June/1999 02:18am
>>>
THE SAD STORY OF MUSA NGOM
For some time back we learn that Musa Ngom is not even in the position
to pay
his house rent.This alone is no big deal,we know there many who cant
pay their
house rent,but in the case of Musa Ngom he was leaving in Senegal,
perhaps
more secured and respected,he was ask by his president if he would
prefer
leaving in his own house or the house of a friend.Musa opted for his
own house
and that is,Gambia, his president(Dr Alhagi Yaya a.j.j.Jammeh)promised
that
his government will do all they can to help him realize his dreams as one=
of
the most recognized Gambian musician in Senegambia.Musa never got
again any
session with this president.He even hired a Taxi to the country -side
during a
presidential tour,just to be able to remind him of all the promises,he ne=
ver
got near the president,he has to pay the Taxi Driver with his
speakers.Leaving
in his own house seems to be more and more uncomfortable.But in his
friends
house(SENEGAL)memories of his talents as a god musician were still
alive,they
decorated him with one of their highest cultural decorations.Here my
conscience did remind me that narrow minded nationalism is very
dangerous.Perhaps Musa should have stayed in Senegal and his music
will
without doubt continue to get to the Gambia and inspire Gambian
musicians.I am
no fans of Musa,simply because the contents of his music do not contain
any
message of substance as far as i am concern.By the way "Ovare"
(working-Class)as far as I am concern is the best that musa has ever
produced.But the fact that we must not only sit and see injustice done to=
some
one, made me interested in this case,as was the case of Donkey ,Syngle
etc.They lied to him,they handle him badly, and they are now hiding from
him.
Since I did not hear anything more on this case,I have my doubts if Musa=
is
been heard,if so I would love to be inform,however not to take any
chance ,I
am appealing to Tombong Saidy ,who is not only the Director of our TV
station
but also a strong defender of the regime, to organized a session
between Musa
and the president so that he (MUSA)could remind the president of all the
promises.Do him a favour Tombong !!!
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Jaajef Abdoulaye,
Thank you for sharing this very informative paper with the
bantaba. It is good to read something so well balanced,
where positive and negative are both recognised, the heat of
emotional responses are put aside, and the reader is enabled
to draw their own conclusions from the facts presented.
Just a couple of comments/suggestions:
An example which could be used of "Jawara succeed(ing) in
attracting...support from the outside, principally because of
his pro-Western, anti-Communist..."stance is the Gambia's
boycott of the Moscow Olympics.
What I found most interesting in your paper was the parallels
drawn between Jawara and Jammeh, especially regarding the
priorities of safe-guarding territorial integrity and fundraising
(aid). That despite different political outlooks etc., the logic of
the situation has pushed Jammeh into doing what he
critisized Jawara for doing. Importantly you express the
opinion that " Future presidents are not likely to
deviate significantly from this trodden path." The implications
of this are to in effect disabuse us of the illusion of the
"individual as saviour", where it is supposed that it is within
the power of leader to provide dramatic solutions to any
nation's crisis, where whatever good has happened is due to
the goodness of the leader, or whatever bad is happening is
down to the evilness of the leader.
This is not to absolve individuals from personal accountability
for their actions, but it is to pose the question how does real
and lasting change occur? If all our countries are caught in
the neo-colonial trap of having to "...balance Western
capitalist interests, adverse effects of structural adjustment,
on one hand and the welfare of a poor and growing
population, on the other."
James Connolly, the Irish Independance leader executed by
the British in the 1920's once said (about the Irish
independance struggle) "You could raise the green flag over
Dublin castle tomorrow, but England would still rule youto
your ruin through it's banks, financiers and landlords..."
(quoted from memory).
It would seem to follow therefore, that whatever leader of
whatever ideology would end up with similar policies, unless
there was a complete break with the international finacial
system. Could such a policy even be comtemplated without
certain pre-requisities such as a regional/pan African outlook
rather than a narrow nationalist one? Without the prior
building of an economic base by which the ordinary citizens
would be able to survive the sanctions that would inevitably
result?
These, in my humble opinion, are important points, in that
crucial to identifying a solution, is firstly in identifying the
problem.
If one believe that the problem resides in X being the leader,
then the solution might well be replacing X with Y (until of
course Y becomes the problem) whether by election or coup,
and so the pattern repeats itself. Each new leader enjoying a
honeymoon period until the true neo-colonial economic
realities prevail (i.e. Structural adjustment etc) and
dissolusionment creeps in. The myth of the western model of
democracy is based on this process of switching ruling
cliques/leaders every few years, whilst the status quo
continues unintterupted (this might be acceptable in a
relatively prosperous nation, but in an impovershished one it
spells disaster for the living conditions of the people).
If real change is not about "leader substitution, the challenge,
in my opinion, is, how to move toward real progress and
change, changing the whole game, the whole system, if an
election or coup changes little?
The question is open to debate... I would not pretend to have
the answer, only to be committed to contributing to such a
debate.
Yeenduleen ak Jaama
Tony
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Mr. Bojang:
Your level of immaturity continues to be overshadowed by your ignorance. if
you do not know how a story begins why jump to the end?
perhaps you are fishing for info. not certain how to being?
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Sambou,
It seems the system you are using to send mail is infected with the =
"happy99.exe" virus. You may want to run a virus scan on the system =
using the latest definitions from the virus scan program provider.
Good luck.
Abdooulie Jallow
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From: sambou <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 2:32 AM
Subject: A Lost Friend
=20
=20
I am looking for my friends,both of whom i lost in contact when i =
moved
from Illinois to Ohio.They are Ebrima Ceesay and Musa Sowe. They =
both
graduated from Nusrat High School. Ebrima Ceesay used to live at =
Serrekunda
(Latri-kunda Sabji) while Musa Sowe is from Brikama. Musa Sowe is =
currently
living in North Carolina at Raleigh.If any body know either of =
them,please
give them my E-mail address or my phone number. By the way i am =
Sambou
Jaiteh
E-mail [log in to unmask]
Phone----(614) 431-0619
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> From: chernob jallow <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Tribute to D.A.Jawo
> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 1:54 PM
>
> D.A.Jawo: A man,a mission
>
> by Cherno Baba Jallow
> in Detroit,USA
>
> "You can't run tanks on hopes. You can't riddle people's
yearnings
> with bullets."
> --- Pres. Ronald Reagan to Chinese leaders on
Tiananmen
> Square massacre.
>
> Such was the toughness and outspokeness enshrined in the writings =
of
> D.A.Jawo. A journalist of calibre and timbre,a man of unassuming
character
> and moral uprightness,Jawo recently became the first casualty of =
the
change
> of ownership of the Daily Observer Company. He was fired without =
good
> reasons but apparently for his acerbic opinions and beliefs and =
ideas,on
the
> fossilization of his society. If you're looking for a prisoner of
> conscience,Jawo is one.
>
> Well,actually,he's no prisoner,but a victim - not of his own =
designs -
but
> those of the privileged few,luxuriating in covetous courtship with =
the
> powerful,and hell-bent on stifling intellectual growth and =
freedom. Jawo
may
> have been driven to the edges of intellectual frustration, but the
> ebullience and resilience in him,larger than imaginable,will =
rekindle his
> hopes,put him once again,on the cusp of his mission: to speak the
> unvarnished truth without fear or favour,in these days of Gambian
political
> insanity. And incivility.
>
> While at the Observer,Jawo unwittingly earned himself the =
custodianship
of
> the newspaper's traditions and precepts. He infused responsibility =
and
> accountability in all of us - young writers,occasionally prone to
youthful
> immaturities and peccadilloes yet working for a credibly serious
newspaper.
> He knew us all by our personae,typescripts,writing styles and work
ethics.
> And he would dutifully point out our errors and proffer =
solutions,and
then
> leave you to defend your position.
>
> Jawo's writings as a reporter and columnist at the Observer had =
the
cutting
> edge of truth. He never shied away from speaking his mind even if =
the
scales
> of public opinion were against him. That's one of the traits of a =
good
> columnist: readiness to grapple with any issues whether =
controversial or
> inflammatory of majoritarian tyranny.
>
> And Jawo was such good columnist. He wrote with verve and
> enthuasism,profundity and clarity,honesty and objectivity. He =
combined
> toughness and civility,which made his acerbic writings painfully
> irresistible,instructively unputdownable. Read this:
>
> "The AFPRC also promised us that openness,transparency and =
accountability
> will be the hallmarks of the regime, but it appears that there is =
quite a
> lot left to be desired in that regard. We have witnessed the =
summary
> dismissal of senior civil servants and other republic servants,and =
others
> have been arrested and detained without anyone caring to tell us =
the
reasons
> for such drastic actions." Jawo was doing a stocktaking of the =
AFPRC'S
100
> days in power in 1994. Five years later,his words still have a =
ring of
truth
> about current political realities in our nation.
>
> But Jawo had one skill that many columnists do not have: he had =
ways of
> telling you 'go to hell' and still have you come back to him =
looking for
> friendship. Do you want a proof of that? Just see how he =
single-handedly
> challenged State House Imam Abdoulie Fatty on his fanatical
> rabble-rousings,which Jawo considered to be inimical to Islamic
> sanity,secular unity and societal progress. In return,the Imam
"threatened"
> Jawo,but later denied he ever did so. He said he would be happy to =
meet
Jawo
> and even shake hands with him.
>
> Imam Fatty's overt change of heart was not because he wittingly =
submitted
> himself to self-scrutiny,but because he discovered his threats =
could not
> frighten Jawo into silence;that Jawo was a mountain that didn't =
move. He
was
> rock-solid in his opinions on the actions of the Imam. Jawo was =
not the
type
> of reporter or columnist easily brow-beaten into reticence. Speak =
his
mind
> he must!
>
> I recall with great nostalgia my days at the Observer with Jawo. =
If he
was
> not editing news reports,he was always busy scribbling notes which =
he
would
> later develop into a thought-provoking essay or commentary. His =
eyes
gazing
> above the rims of his lenses,adorned with his grizzled hair,Jawo =
would
> always engage us in journalistic dialogue on issues of the day. He =
would
ask
> probing questions and then a proliferation of ideas would follow. =
We
never
> always agreed with him,but oftentimes we listened with painstaking
> attention,as he argued his points.
>
> My respect for Jawo increased when, out of sheer ethica values,he =
stood
by
> me during my confrontation with the then Acting Nigerian High
Commissioner
> Goffrey Teneilabe. The High Commissioner was incensed by an =
article I
wrote
> in my column in 1995 lambasting his propagandist diplomacy at the =
behest
of
> Sani Abacha,Nigeria's most brutal military dictator since Ironsi =
in 1966.
>
> I wrote: "Time after time,the Acting Nigerian High =
Commissioner,more
> loquacious than profound,has put up a spirited defence in favour =
of the
> Abacha regime. The Abuja administration is constantly proffered =
panegyric
> stakes. And anything critical of it is viewed disdainfully." The =
High
> Commisioner went bonkers! He threatened to sue me and the Daily =
Observer
> Company,for libel? We wondered.
>
> Granted,facts and Almighty God were on my side,and I had received
tremendous
> support from Nigerians in the streets,I still was visibly shaken =
by the
> threat of a suit. Here was a young columnist taking to task a high
> commissioner of the most powerful country in West Africa. I didn't =
want
to
> go through all the rigmarole of court proceedings;it was going to =
waste
my
> time and delay my efforts to pursue university education abroad,I
lamented.
> And I was concerned that my family,which was always opposed to my
journalism
> career,would have had more genuine reasons why I needed to quit =
the
> profession.
>
> But Jawo determinedly pep talked me out of my emotional distress. =
"You
have
> nothing to fear," he reassured me. "Your opinions are your =
opinions," he
> added. He reasoned that to put me on trial for my =
opinions,expressed
within
> the ambits of the law,would be a travesty, and that the Nigerian =
High
> Commission was simply fighting a rearguard situation.
>
> Up till I left The Gambia in 1996,nobody would tell me anything =
more
about a
> lawsuit from the Nigerian High Commission. An informed source =
would later
> tell me the suit-threat had been dropped,and the High Commissioner =
had
> simply lodged a complaint against me at the Foreign Affairs =
Ministry on
> Marina Parade.
>
> Jawo's moral support was very instrumental. It energized my zeal =
to pen
down
> yet more groundbreaking articles. He dusted off old copies of the
AfricaNow
> and New African magazines from his drawers and handed them to me. =
His
wish
> was to open up my mind to the didactic writings of Peter =
Enahoro,Abdu
Rahman
> Babu and Phillip Ochieng,three great African columnists who made =
great
> strides on Africa's journalistic scene in the 1970s and 80s. In =
those
> days,Jawo was already writing in the opinion pages of these =
magazines.
His
> interest in journalism is as old as the hills.
>
> Dismissal from the Observer will make not break Jawo. Always =
determined
and
> perceptive, he will bounce back and carry on with his mission. He =
is
> undaunted. In the pursuit of truth he shall continue to persevere. =
And
> survive. I think the world of Jawo.
>
>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>It seems =
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in contact when i moved<BR>from Illinois to Ohio.They are =
Ebrima =20
Ceesay and Musa Sowe. They both<BR>graduated from Nusrat High =
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from Brikama. Musa Sowe is currently<BR>living in North Carolina at=20
Raleigh.If any body know either of them,please<BR>give them my =
E-mail=20
address or my phone number. By the way i am=20
Sambou<BR>Jaiteh<BR>E-mail <A=20
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attachment to the same=20
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heading.<BR><BR> &nb=
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Sambou<BR><BR>----------<BR>> From: chernob jallow <<A=20
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Subject: Tribute to D.A.Jawo<BR>> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 =
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D.A.Jawo: A man,a=20
=
mission<BR>><BR>> &n=
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by Cherno Baba=20
=
Jallow<BR>>  =
; =
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in=20
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"You can't run tanks on hopes. You can't riddle=20
people's<BR>yearnings<BR>> with=20
=
bullets."<BR>> &nb=
sp; &nbs=
p;=20
--- Pres. Ronald Reagan to Chinese leaders on<BR>Tiananmen<BR>> =
Square=20
massacre.<BR>><BR>> Such was the toughness and outspokeness =
enshrined=20
in the writings of<BR>> D.A.Jawo. A journalist of calibre and =
timbre,a=20
man of unassuming<BR>character<BR>> and moral uprightness,Jawo =
recently=20
became the first casualty of the<BR>change<BR>> of ownership of =
the Daily=20
Observer Company. He was fired without good<BR>> reasons but =
apparently=20
for his acerbic opinions and beliefs and ideas,on<BR>the<BR>>=20
fossilization of his society. If you're looking for a prisoner =
of<BR>>=20
conscience,Jawo is one.<BR>><BR>> Well,actually,he's no =
prisoner,but a=20
victim - not of his own designs -<BR>but<BR>> those of the =
privileged=20
few,luxuriating in covetous courtship with the<BR>> powerful,and=20
hell-bent on stifling intellectual growth and freedom. =
Jawo<BR>may<BR>>=20
have been driven to the edges of intellectual frustration, but =
the<BR>>=20
ebullience and resilience in him,larger than imaginable,will =
rekindle=20
his<BR>> hopes,put him once again,on the cusp of his mission: to =
speak=20
the<BR>> unvarnished truth without fear or favour,in these days =
of=20
Gambian<BR>political<BR>> insanity. And =
incivility.<BR>><BR>> While=20
at the Observer,Jawo unwittingly earned himself the=20
custodianship<BR>of<BR>> the newspaper's traditions and precepts. =
He=20
infused responsibility and<BR>> accountability in all of us - =
young=20
writers,occasionally prone to<BR>youthful<BR>> immaturities and=20
peccadilloes yet working for a credibly =
serious<BR>newspaper.<BR>> He=20
knew us all by our personae,typescripts,writing styles and=20
work<BR>ethics.<BR>> And he would dutifully point out our errors =
and=20
proffer solutions,and<BR>then<BR>> leave you to defend your=20
position.<BR>><BR>> Jawo's writings as a reporter and =
columnist at the=20
Observer had the<BR>cutting<BR>> edge of truth. He never shied =
away from=20
speaking his mind even if the<BR>scales<BR>> of public opinion =
were=20
against him. That's one of the traits of a good<BR>> columnist: =
readiness=20
to grapple with any issues whether controversial or<BR>> =
inflammatory of=20
majoritarian tyranny.<BR>><BR>> And Jawo was such good =
columnist. He=20
wrote with verve and<BR>> enthuasism,profundity and =
clarity,honesty and=20
objectivity. He combined<BR>> toughness and civility,which made =
his=20
acerbic writings painfully<BR>> irresistible,instructively =
unputdownable.=20
Read this:<BR>><BR>> "The AFPRC also promised us that=20
openness,transparency and accountability<BR>> will be the =
hallmarks of=20
the regime, but it appears that there is quite a<BR>> lot left to =
be=20
desired in that regard. We have witnessed the summary<BR>> =
dismissal of=20
senior civil servants and other republic servants,and others<BR>> =
have=20
been arrested and detained without anyone caring to tell us=20
the<BR>reasons<BR>> for such drastic actions." Jawo was =
doing a=20
stocktaking of the AFPRC'S<BR>100<BR>> days in power in 1994. =
Five years=20
later,his words still have a ring of<BR>truth<BR>> about current=20
political realities in our nation.<BR>><BR>> But Jawo had one =
skill=20
that many columnists do not have: he had ways of<BR>> telling you =
'go to=20
hell' and still have you come back to him looking for<BR>> =
friendship. Do=20
you want a proof of that? Just see how he single-handedly<BR>> =
challenged=20
State House Imam Abdoulie Fatty on his fanatical<BR>>=20
rabble-rousings,which Jawo considered to be inimical to =
Islamic<BR>>=20
sanity,secular unity and societal progress. In return,the=20
Imam<BR>"threatened"<BR>> Jawo,but later denied he ever =
did so.=20
He said he would be happy to meet<BR>Jawo<BR>> and even shake =
hands with=20
him.<BR>><BR>> Imam Fatty's overt change of heart was not =
because he=20
wittingly submitted<BR>> himself to self-scrutiny,but because he=20
discovered his threats could not<BR>> frighten Jawo into =
silence;that=20
Jawo was a mountain that didn't move. He<BR>was<BR>> rock-solid =
in his=20
opinions on the actions of the Imam. Jawo was not =
the<BR>type<BR>> of=20
reporter or columnist easily brow-beaten into reticence. Speak=20
his<BR>mind<BR>> he must!<BR>><BR>> I recall with great =
nostalgia=20
my days at the Observer with Jawo. If he<BR>was<BR>> not editing =
news=20
reports,he was always busy scribbling notes which =
he<BR>would<BR>>=20
later develop into a thought-provoking essay or commentary. His=20
eyes<BR>gazing<BR>> above the rims of his lenses,adorned with his =
grizzled hair,Jawo would<BR>> always engage us in journalistic =
dialogue=20
on issues of the day. He would<BR>ask<BR>> probing questions and =
then a=20
proliferation of ideas would follow. We<BR>never<BR>> always =
agreed with=20
him,but oftentimes we listened with painstaking<BR>> attention,as =
he=20
argued his points.<BR>><BR>> My respect for Jawo increased =
when, out=20
of sheer ethica values,he stood<BR>by<BR>> me during my =
confrontation=20
with the then Acting Nigerian High<BR>Commissioner<BR>> Goffrey=20
Teneilabe. The High Commissioner was incensed by an article=20
I<BR>wrote<BR>> in my column in 1995 lambasting his propagandist=20
diplomacy at the behest<BR>of<BR>> Sani Abacha,Nigeria's most =
brutal=20
military dictator since Ironsi in 1966.<BR>><BR>> I wrote: =
"Time=20
after time,the Acting Nigerian High Commissioner,more<BR>> =
loquacious=20
than profound,has put up a spirited defence in favour of the<BR>> =
Abacha=20
regime. The Abuja administration is constantly proffered =
panegyric<BR>>=20
stakes. And anything critical of it is viewed disdainfully." =
The=20
High<BR>> Commisioner went bonkers! He threatened to sue me and =
the Daily=20
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Latjorr,
Thanks for seeing my level of immaturity. I know the truth hurts a lot and I
will not use this forum to attack anyone's maturity or their sneaky and
selfish manners. One thing I am very certain of despite of my immaturity is
that people have come to realise and be alert of others who all that they
want to talk about is themselves. I have come to accept who I am and not to
go around the world trying to take advantage of people or situations. With
your high degree of maturity, I wish you could help me come to know and if
possible, to send me the copy of your contract with the Gambia government
through this forum.
And please, do not use my immaturity as an excuse not to answer my very dumb
questions. I might learn from you instead, so do not deprive me from that.
Once again, just show your very extreme maturity and answer my questions
please.
Mature Lat, I thank you,
Ousman Bojang.
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Alieu Bah <[log in to unmask]> den 99-06-18 10:41:36
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Hi folks!
To all my friends.......
The Fence...
There once was a little boy who had a bad temper. His father gave him a bag
of nails and told him that every time he lost his temper, he must hammer a
nail into the back of the fence.
The first day the boy had driven 37 nails into the fence.
Over the next few weeks, as he learned to control his anger, the number of
nails hammered daily gradually dwindled down. He discovered it was easier
to hold his temper than to drive those nails into the fence...
Finally the day came when the boy didn't lose his temper at
all. He told his father about it and the father suggested that the boy now
pull out one nail for each day that he was able to hold his temper.
The days passed and the young boy was finally able to tell his father that
all the nails were gone. The father took his son by the hand and led him to
the fence. He said, "You have done well, my son, but look at the holes in
the fence. The fence will never be the same. When you say things in anger,
they leave a scar just like this one. You can put a knife in a man and draw
it out. It won't matter how many times you say I'm sorry, the wound is
still there. A verbal wound is as bad as a physical one.
Friends are a very rare jewel, indeed. They make you smile and encourage
you to succeed. They lend an ear, they share a word of praise, and they
always want to open their hearts to us.
It's National Friendship Week. Show your friends how much you care. Send
this to everyone you consider a FRIEND even if it means sending back to the
person who sent it to you. If it comes back to you, then you'll know you
have a circle of friends.
HAPPY FRIENDSHIP WEEKEND!
Regards,
Alieu
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Abdoulie, Thanks for sharing with us this paper.
I think the notion that no matter who leads the Gambia will continue to
depend on foreign money to finance its development projects should not be a
surprise to us given that the Gambia does not have the resources (human and
mineral) to develop from within. What I find interesting though is the
contrast in the type of money the two governments rely upon.
It looks like the present government gets money largely through borrowing
compared to "must be 80/20 grant/loan financing" policy of the Jawara days.
While the present approach may be one of "get the money what ever the cost
and do it your own way" does produce in the short term it does seem to be
based on the assumption that "once its all built business will flourish to
pay it all".
If we believe that to be the case then one would like to ask: can we realize
the anticipated business given our size, geographic location, natural
environment, political and business environment? Even if business comes
would it grow quick enough to pay it all?
Malanding Jaiteh
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> Jaajef Abdoulaye,
>
> Thank you for sharing this very informative paper with the
> bantaba. It is good to read something so well balanced,
> where positive and negative are both recognised, the heat of
> emotional responses are put aside, and the reader is enabled
> to draw their own conclusions from the facts presented.
>
> Just a couple of comments/suggestions:
>
> An example which could be used of "Jawara succeed(ing) in
> attracting...support from the outside, principally because of
> his pro-Western, anti-Communist..."stance is the Gambia's
> boycott of the Moscow Olympics.
>
> What I found most interesting in your paper was the parallels
> drawn between Jawara and Jammeh, especially regarding the
> priorities of safe-guarding territorial integrity and fundraising
> (aid). That despite different political outlooks etc., the logic of
> the situation has pushed Jammeh into doing what he
> critisized Jawara for doing. Importantly you express the
> opinion that " Future presidents are not likely to
> deviate significantly from this trodden path." The implications
> of this are to in effect disabuse us of the illusion of the
> "individual as saviour", where it is supposed that it is within
> the power of leader to provide dramatic solutions to any
> nation's crisis, where whatever good has happened is due to
> the goodness of the leader, or whatever bad is happening is
> down to the evilness of the leader.
> This is not to absolve individuals from personal accountability
> for their actions, but it is to pose the question how does real
> and lasting change occur? If all our countries are caught in
> the neo-colonial trap of having to "...balance Western
> capitalist interests, adverse effects of structural adjustment,
> on one hand and the welfare of a poor and growing
> population, on the other."
>
> James Connolly, the Irish Independance leader executed by
> the British in the 1920's once said (about the Irish
> independance struggle) "You could raise the green flag over
> Dublin castle tomorrow, but England would still rule youto
> your ruin through it's banks, financiers and landlords..."
> (quoted from memory).
>
> It would seem to follow therefore, that whatever leader of
> whatever ideology would end up with similar policies, unless
> there was a complete break with the international finacial
> system. Could such a policy even be comtemplated without
> certain pre-requisities such as a regional/pan African outlook
> rather than a narrow nationalist one? Without the prior
> building of an economic base by which the ordinary citizens
> would be able to survive the sanctions that would inevitably
> result?
>
> These, in my humble opinion, are important points, in that
> crucial to identifying a solution, is firstly in identifying the
> problem.
>
> If one believe that the problem resides in X being the leader,
> then the solution might well be replacing X with Y (until of
> course Y becomes the problem) whether by election or coup,
> and so the pattern repeats itself. Each new leader enjoying a
> honeymoon period until the true neo-colonial economic
> realities prevail (i.e. Structural adjustment etc) and
> dissolusionment creeps in. The myth of the western model of
> democracy is based on this process of switching ruling
> cliques/leaders every few years, whilst the status quo
> continues unintterupted (this might be acceptable in a
> relatively prosperous nation, but in an impovershished one it
> spells disaster for the living conditions of the people).
>
> If real change is not about "leader substitution, the challenge,
> in my opinion, is, how to move toward real progress and
> change, changing the whole game, the whole system, if an
> election or coup changes little?
>
> The question is open to debate... I would not pretend to have
> the answer, only to be committed to contributing to such a
> debate.
>
> Yeenduleen ak Jaama
>
> Tony
>
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In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful
CAIR
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AMERICAN MUSLIM MEDIA WATCH - 6/23/99
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ISLAM IN AMERICA
By: Gotham Chopra, Channel One News
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biases. When it comes to Muslims, the same immediate images emerge in my
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even one of our Channel One News broadcasts - of Palestinian kids hurling
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in American culture. When we set out to do a story on Islam in America for
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AFRIKANA!!
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>> Subject: !*URGENT SUPPORT NEEDED FOR *GENUINE* ENCYCLOPEDIA =
AFRIKANA!!
>>
>> PLEASE LEND YOUR SUPPORT!
>>
>> Bro. Ray Winbush, Professor at Fisk University, urges all those
>> dedicated to the promotion of an accurate depiction of the history
>> of African people (finally!) to read the following *VERY
>> IMPORTANT* CALL TO ACTION AND INFORMATION!!
>>
>> Afrikan Frontline Network is soliciting wide-based support for the
>> GENUINE Encyclopedia Africana, and salute Bro. Winbush and
>> Sis. Bansa in Ghana for their tireless efforts on all of our =
behalfs!!
>> We honor, respect, wholeheartedly stand by and encourage these
>> literary warriors and have faith that you do as well!
>>
>> *************************************************
>> PLEASE HELP TO WIDELY DISSEMINATE THIS
>> INFORMATION VIA THE INTERNET AS WELL AS
>> PUBLICATIONS, NEWSPAPERS AND OTHER OUTREACH
>> ORIENTED FORUMS!
>> *************************************************
>>
>> !! U R G E N T !!
>>
>> !! EMERGENCY LETTER WRITING CAMPAIGN!!
>>
>> !! TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE !!
>>
>> THE ENCYCLOPEDIA AFRICANA PROJECT IS FACING
>> POSSIBLE CO-OPTATION AND BASTARDIZATION BY THE
>> USUAL SUSPECTS. YOUR COMMITMENT TOWARDS
>> DEFEATING THIS *BLATANT OPPORTUNISM* IS
>> URGENTLY REQUESTED IN ORDER TO INSURE THAT THE
>> INTEGRITY OF THIS PROJECT IS NOT DILUTED BY THOSE
>> WHO WOULD, ONCE AGAIN, DEPRIVE AFRICAN PEOPLE
>> OF TELLING OUR STORY, OURSELVES!!
>>
>> Henry Louis "Skip" Gates is publishing an "Encyclopedia
>> Africana", which is not in the spirit of Du Bois intention that it be
>> an "All African" enterprise. While Bro. Winbush was in Ghana
>> this past summer, Ms. Bansa and he talked about this, and the
>> editorial staff is 100 per cent against the bastardization of the EA
>> from the Cambridge Mafia.
>>
>> Sis. Eileen Irvin of the Encyclopedia Africana in Michigan, is
>> calling for all who recognize this direct impingement on African
>> self-determination to begin a letter writing campaign against
>> Gates. Irvin is the widow of Keith Irvin, who was one of the
>> original editors of the Encyclopedia Africana. He died a couple
>> of years ago, and his widow is 74 years old and still trying to
>> carry on the legacy. She informed Bro. Winbush that she has
>> done everything in her power to block Gates' attempt to stop the
>> publication of the EA, but he simply ignores her as well as the
>> Board in Ghana. Furthermore, she has been stabbed in the back
>> by Charles van Doren (yes *the* Charles van Doren) who is now
>> on the "editorial board" that Gates has set up at Harvard. van
>> Doren was a good friend of her husband's but apparently has been
>> co-opted by Gates as well. It's a real tragedy.
>>
>> *****************************************
>> SEND YOUR LETTERS OF PROTEST TO GATES AT:
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>> and cc: myself at [log in to unmask] or
>> Bro. Ray at [log in to unmask]
>> ******************************************
>>
>> She says that one of the most important things we can do now is
>> to create a web page for the genuine "Encyclopedia Africana."
>> PLEASE DONATE SUPPORT TOWARDS GETTING THIS
>> WEB SITE UP ASAP, IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL!
>>
>> Contact myself by clicking "reply" ([log in to unmask]),
>> Bro. Ray at [log in to unmask] or Sis. Irvin at
>> [log in to unmask] until 12/25, [log in to unmask] after 12/26,
>> phone 810-794-5722 to offer your talents and abilities in spreading
>> this message FAR AND WIDE to these strong, struggling people.
>>
>> Gates is simply appropriating a book that he knows damn well
>> doesn't belong to him. In an article Bro. Winbush published about
>> two years ago, he referred to him as the "Booker T. Washington
>> of Black studies", because just as BTW *defined* education for
>> Blackfolk for so many years, Gates is attempting to *define* the
>> very reality of the African experience on a global level. An article
>> in last Thursday's NYT about Gates' just published Norton
>> Anthology of African American Literature" begins, "We now have
>> a canon". Gates actually believes that he can define the reality of
>> Blackfolk to white folks, ignoring people like John Henrik Clarke,
>> Marimba Ani, Asante, and everyone else. His rejection of
>> Afrocentric paradigms is the main reason why the Encyclopedia
>> Africana is such an important project.
>>
>> What you can do to help is write letters of protest to Gates
>> denouncing what he is doing at Harvard!! and write Ms. Bansa in
>> Ghana and ask her what you can do to help out. You can reach
>> her at:
>>
>> Ms. Grace Bansa, Editor
>> The Encyclopedia Africana
>> P.O. Box 2797
>> Accra, Ghana
>> West Africa
>> Telephone: 01123321-776-939 (direct from USA)
>>
>> She will be more than happy to hear from anyone who has
>> suggestions for securing a larger publisher, one of the main
>> reasons why more Africans in Amerikkka have not heard about
>> this important work.
>>
>> Please keep an eye out for ongoing updates on this very
>> worthwhile project and don't delay with getting your letters
>> written! PASS THIS ON!
>>
>> Sis. Marpessa
>>
>> SPEAK TRUTH TO THE PEOPLE! and most importantly, THE
>> CHILDREN!
>> =
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>>
>> Here are some basic facts about the Encyclopedia Africana:
>>
>> 1. The books (3 volumes of a proposed set containing 10 million
>> words) is still being published in Accra Ghana. Grace Bansa is the
>> Director and the publication committee meets regularly in Lagos.
>>
>> 2. You can purchase the Encyclopedia Africana at $75.00 each
>> (and worth every penny!) from:
>>
>> The Encyclopedia Africana
>> Reference Publications 218 St. Clair Drive
>> Box 344
>> Algonac, Michigan 48001
>>
>> Volume I. ISBN: 0-917256-01-8
>> Volume 2: ISBN: 0-917256-06-9
>> Volume 3: ISBN: 0-917256-21-2
>>
>> The books are absolutely incredible. They are Afrocentric, and
>> provide in depth background on a host of subjects. The Dictionary
>> of African Biography, which is essentially volume 3, continues
>> information that is far better than the Encyclopedia Britannica on
>> things African.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------
>>
>> Here is a copy of the 1962 letter originally written by W.E.B. Du
>> Bois when he became Director of the Secretariat for the
>> Encyclopedia Africana Project. It provides good insight into the
>> original intent of Du Bois on the EA Project. This is copied
>> verbatim with permission from the current director of the EA,
>> Ms. Grace Bansa. It is a rare document that both she and I feel
>> needs to be read by Africans throughout the Maafa. Treasure it,
>> and please feel free to distribute it as widely as possible.
>> ------------------------
>>
>> A PROPOSED ENCYCLOPEDIA AFRICANA
>>
>> W.E.B. Du Bois
>>
>> Director of the Secretariat
>> Encyclopedia Africana
>> Accra Ghana
>> April, 1962
>>
>> Early in 1962 preparatory work toward the compilation and
>> production of an Encyclopedia Africana was formally initiated in
>> Accra, Ghana, under the sponsorship of the Ghana Academy of
>> Sciences. As Director of the Secretariat for this undertaking, I
>> am naturally most anxious that what we propose become both well
>> known and properly understood in scholarly circles throughout the
>> world, to the end that we may secure the widest possible
>> cooperation. It is with this purpose in mind that the present =
brief,
>> preliminary statement is offered.
>>
>> First, a word of background. In 1909 when I was teaching
>> history and economics in the Negro University of Atlanta,
>> Atlanta, Georgia, I proposed the preparation of an "Encyclopedia
>> Africana". I secured as members of the Board of Advisors, in
>> addition to sixty-two American Negro scholars, Sir Henry
>> Johnstone, K.C.B., and Professor W.M. Flinders Petrie, D.C.L,
>> of England; Professor Giuseppe Sergi of Italy; Dr. J. Denniker of
>> France; Professor William James, LL.D., and Franz Boas, Ph.D.
>> of Harvard and Columbia respectively, and many others.
>> However, I was never able to raise the funds to carry the
>> enterprise forward.
>>
>> In 1934 the Phelps Stokes fund initiated a new project to prepare
>> and publish an "Encyclopedia of the Negro". I was chosen as
>> Editor-in-Chief and for the next ten years gave intermittent effort
>> to the project; but again the necessary funds, which we estimated
>> then at $260,100, could not be secured. Perhaps it was too soon
>> to expect so large an amount for so ambitious a project to be
>> carried out be Negroes and built mainly on Negro scholarship.
>> Nevertheless, a preparatory volume summarizing the effort was
>> published in 1944.
>>
>> When I was in Ghana, West Africa, in 1960 witnessing the
>> inauguration of the independent Republic, the President, Dr.
>> Kwame Nkrumah, asked me if I again would plan an
>> Encyclopedia Africana. I consented to do this and to consult
>> personally and by letter a number of persons who might be
>> interested in this project.
>>
>> My idea is to prepare and publish an Encyclopedia not on the
>> vague subject of race, but on the peoples inhabiting the continent
>> of Africa. I propose an Encyclopedia edited mainly be African
>> scholars. I am anxious that it be a scientific production and not
>> a matter of propaganda. While there should be included among
>> its writers the best students of Africa in the world, I want the
>> proposed Encyclopedia to be written mainly from the African
>> point of view by people who know and understand the history and
>> culture of Africans.
>>
>> My thought also is that it would be a great advantage if at this
>> juncture the interest and research of the African intelligentsia
>> were concentrated on the history of the past and the cultural
>> remains of Africa; that this might direct their action away from
>> political and tribal divisions, give them a body of truth to guide
>> them, and unite them in wide agreement as to what has happened
>> on this continent and what can happen in the future.
>>
>> I realize that this is going to involve difficulties: first, the
>> comparatively small number of Africans who are scientific
>> students of Africa; and secondly, the attitude of European scholars
>> toward Africans. There is, I am sure, a great deal of interest,
>> sympathy and good will among British, French, Belgian, and
>> German scholars towards the African peoples. But there is also
>> much prejudice and condescension based upon certain assumptions
>> toward Africans that are almost inevitable among persons
>> educated in Europe. I believe both of these difficulties are
>> surmountable.
>>
>> African political independence can mean the encouragement and
>> flowering of independent scientific study of African history by
>> Africans, and there is already some evidence of this. On the
>> other side, a significant number of Europeans have in recent years
>> made valuable contributions to the true reading of Africa's past.
>>
>> Since 1960 I have been in correspondence about the proposed
>> Encyclopedia with leading students of African history and culture
>> in Britain, Europe east and west, America, Asia and Africa.
>> Though there remain individuals and institutions to be written to,
>> I have already received close to a hundred responses from among
>> those in various countries around the world who are regarded as
>> most eminent in this are of scientific research. The responses
>> have on the whole been exceedingly encouraging. Most have
>> expressed concurrence with the idea and willingness to cooperate,
>> and many have contained valuable comments and suggestions. (A
>> digest of the opinions expressed is in preparation.)
>>
>> The Ghana Academy of Sciences (formerly known as the Ghana
>> Academy of Learning) decided at its meeting on October 31, 1960
>> to sponsor the project for an Encyclopedia Africana as I had
>> outlined it. At a subsequent meeting on December 21, 1961, at
>> which I was present and gave a report, the Academy formally
>> agreed that the planning and production of the proposed
>> Encyclopedia should be carried forward by a Secretariat under my
>> directorship. It was further agreed that an initial grant of funds
>> would be provided by the Government of Ghana for the purpose
>> of starting this work.
>>
>> While it is essential that the main and concentrated effort should
>> be centered where the project has been initiated - in Ghana, I
>> wish to emphasize what I said in my report to members of the
>> Academy: "that all Africa should be invited and urged to
>> participate and to share in authority and support." At the outset,
>> we are seeking the advice and counsel of leading authorities in all
>> Africa in determining the answers to various questions of
>> substance and procedure involved in planning and preparing the
>> Encyclopedia. A formal request for the practical assistance of the
>> governments of all independent African states will be made in due
>> course.
>>
>> It is planned that our Secretariat here in Accra will establish and
>> maintain a close liaison with teams of scholars in various parts of
>> Africa engaged in work on specific problems in their respective
>> areas.
>>
>> Further, it is expected that the Editorial Board, as it comes to be
>> established, will be broadly representative of all Africa, the
>> members of the Board having as their common aim the
>> preparation and publication of an Encyclopedia Africana which is
>> at the same time authentically African and scientific. This Board
>> may in turn wish to invite the cooperation of a body of advisors
>> representing the best scientific scholarship relating to Africa
>> available outside that continent.
>>
>> Such in brief outline is the background, aim, and broad plan of
>> our work for an Encyclopedia Africana. We are yet only in the
>> preparatory stage of the work. It will proceed with deliberation,
>> and it will take time. If the first volume can be published in ten
>> years time, we will be satisfied.
>>
>> I eagerly invite your cooperation in bringing this matter to the
>> attention of individual scholars, learned societies and institutions
>> interested in such a project. We welcome all inquiries of opinion
>> about what we here propose. Above all, we seek the assistance
>> and support of all who can contribute to the realization of this
>> endeavor.
>>
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>> >From Bro. Ray:
>>
>> Regardless of what we think of Du Bois, the man evolved. He
>> called Garvey a "fat, Black monkey" regretted it and continued to
>> change as was necessary for the times. He had his flaws (don't we
>> all) but in the end, the brother knew that Africa was where we all
>> should look to for our strength and our future. I'm publishing an
>> article that should be out in early 1997 on my research entitlted
>> Fisk in Africa: George Padmore, W.E.B. Du Bois and the
>> Encyclopedia Africana." Finally, if you haven't already, read
>> David Levering Lewis' (another Fisk graduate) biography of Du
>> Bois. It's simply the best, and describes his being color struck,
>> his feud with Garvey and Washington and a lot more. If you
>> *really* want to understand Du Bois, read Lewis' biography in a
>> short period (3-4 weeks) and then begin with a chronological
>> reading of his writings. His first major work, was his dissertation
>> at Harvard (The Suppression of the African Slave Trade), but his
>> earlier writings as a student at Fisk, and even in Great Barrington
>> need to be read for understanding the complexities of the brother.
>> Most of us have read *about* Du Bois, rather than what he said
>> himself about himself. His writings should be read
>> *chronologically* so that you can get a feel for his pan-Africanist
>> development through his lifetime. Du Bois was his best critic, and
>> few have taken upon themselves the daunting task of reading his
>> writings directly.
>>
>> Whenever I travel to Ghana, I am always struck by the fact that
>> the average Ghanaian knows far more about Du Bois than Africans
>> in Amerikkka. He is revered for what he, Padmore and Nkrumah
>> attempted to do in developing the idea of a united Africa and
>> global pan-African theory *and* practice.
>>
>> Du Bois was an old brother when he died in '63, and his life
>> parallels a lot of things that happened to Us as a people during that
>> past 100 years. You must read Du Bois in a context, that few of
>> us have done. For example, most of us don't know that while
>> earlier espousing the notion of the "Talented Tenth" he later
>> rejected it as being an elitist concept.
>>
>> This has been a long post, but I hope it helps.
>>
>> Peace,
>>
>> Ray Winbush,
>> Fisk University
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>> Submitted by: Sis. Marpessa
>> http://www.webcom.com/nattyreb
>> !PLEASE PASS THIS ON VIA EVERY MEANS AVAILABLE!
>>
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________
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Subject: !*URGENT SUPPORT NEEDED FOR *GENUINE* ENCYCLOPEDIA AFRIKANA!!
>>
>> PLEASE LEND YOUR SUPPORT!
>>
>> Bro. Ray Winbush, Professor at Fisk University, urges all those
>> dedicated to the promotion of an accurate depiction of the history
>> of African people (finally!) to read the following *VERY
>> IMPORTANT* CALL TO ACTION AND INFORMATION!!
>>
>> Afrikan Frontline Network is soliciting wide-based support for the
>> GENUINE Encyclopedia Africana, and salute Bro. Winbush and
>> Sis. Bansa in Ghana for their tireless efforts on all of our =
behalfs!!
>> We honor, respect, wholeheartedly stand by and encourage these
>> literary warriors and have faith that you do as well!
>>
>> *************************************************
>> PLEASE HELP TO WIDELY DISSEMINATE THIS
>> INFORMATION VIA THE INTERNET AS WELL AS
>> PUBLICATIONS, NEWSPAPERS AND OTHER OUTREACH
>> ORIENTED FORUMS!
>> *************************************************
>>
>> !! U R G E N T !!
>>
>> !! EMERGENCY LETTER WRITING CAMPAIGN!!
>>
>> !! TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE !!
>>
>> THE ENCYCLOPEDIA AFRICANA PROJECT IS FACING
>> POSSIBLE CO-OPTATION AND BASTARDIZATION BY THE
>> USUAL SUSPECTS. YOUR COMMITMENT TOWARDS
>> DEFEATING THIS *BLATANT OPPORTUNISM* IS
>> URGENTLY REQUESTED IN ORDER TO INSURE THAT THE
>> INTEGRITY OF THIS PROJECT IS NOT DILUTED BY THOSE
>> WHO WOULD, ONCE AGAIN, DEPRIVE AFRICAN PEOPLE
>> OF TELLING OUR STORY, OURSELVES!!
>>
>> Henry Louis "Skip" Gates is publishing an "Encyclopedia
>> Africana", which is not in the spirit of Du Bois intention that it be
>> an "All African" enterprise. While Bro. Winbush was in Ghana
>> this past summer, Ms. Bansa and he talked about this, and the
>> editorial staff is 100 per cent against the bastardization of the EA
>> from the Cambridge Mafia.
>>
>> Sis. Eileen Irvin of the Encyclopedia Africana in Michigan, is
>> calling for all who recognize this direct impingement on African
>> self-determination to begin a letter writing campaign against
>> Gates. Irvin is the widow of Keith Irvin, who was one of the
>> original editors of the Encyclopedia Africana. He died a couple
>> of years ago, and his widow is 74 years old and still trying to
>> carry on the legacy. She informed Bro. Winbush that she has
>> done everything in her power to block Gates' attempt to stop the
>> publication of the EA, but he simply ignores her as well as the
>> Board in Ghana. Furthermore, she has been stabbed in the back
>> by Charles van Doren (yes *the* Charles van Doren) who is now
>> on the "editorial board" that Gates has set up at Harvard. van
>> Doren was a good friend of her husband's but apparently has been
>> co-opted by Gates as well. It's a real tragedy.
>>
>> *****************************************
>> SEND YOUR LETTERS OF PROTEST TO GATES AT:
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>> and cc: myself at [log in to unmask] or
>> Bro. Ray at [log in to unmask]
>> ******************************************
>>
>> She says that one of the most important things we can do now is
>> to create a web page for the genuine "Encyclopedia Africana."
>> PLEASE DONATE SUPPORT TOWARDS GETTING THIS
>> WEB SITE UP ASAP, IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL!
>>
>> Contact myself by clicking "reply" ([log in to unmask]),
>> Bro. Ray at [log in to unmask] or Sis. Irvin at
>> [log in to unmask] until 12/25, [log in to unmask] after 12/26,
>> phone 810-794-5722 to offer your talents and abilities in spreading
>> this message FAR AND WIDE to these strong, struggling people.
>>
>> Gates is simply appropriating a book that he knows damn well
>> doesn't belong to him. In an article Bro. Winbush published about
>> two years ago, he referred to him as the "Booker T. Washington
>> of Black studies", because just as BTW *defined* education for
>> Blackfolk for so many years, Gates is attempting to *define* the
>> very reality of the African experience on a global level. An article
>> in last Thursday's NYT about Gates' just published Norton
>> Anthology of African American Literature" begins, "We now have
>> a canon". Gates actually believes that he can define the reality of
>> Blackfolk to white folks, ignoring people like John Henrik Clarke,
>> Marimba Ani, Asante, and everyone else. His rejection of
>> Afrocentric paradigms is the main reason why the Encyclopedia
>> Africana is such an important project.
>>
>> What you can do to help is write letters of protest to Gates
>> denouncing what he is doing at Harvard!! and write Ms. Bansa in
>> Ghana and ask her what you can do to help out. You can reach
>> her at:
>>
>> Ms. Grace Bansa, Editor
>> The Encyclopedia Africana
>> P.O. Box 2797
>> Accra, Ghana
>> West Africa
>> Telephone: 01123321-776-939 (direct from USA)
>>
>> She will be more than happy to hear from anyone who has
>> suggestions for securing a larger publisher, one of the main
>> reasons why more Africans in Amerikkka have not heard about
>> this important work.
>>
>> Please keep an eye out for ongoing updates on this very
>> worthwhile project and don't delay with getting your letters
>> written! PASS THIS ON!
>>
>> Sis. Marpessa
>>
>> SPEAK TRUTH TO THE PEOPLE! and most importantly, THE
>> CHILDREN!
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>> Here are some basic facts about the Encyclopedia Africana:
>>
>> 1. The books (3 volumes of a proposed set containing 10 million
>> words) is still being published in Accra Ghana. Grace Bansa is the
>> Director and the publication committee meets regularly in Lagos.
>>
>> 2. You can purchase the Encyclopedia Africana at $75.00 each
>> (and worth every penny!) from:
>>
>> The Encyclopedia Africana
>> Reference Publications 218 St. Clair Drive
>> Box 344
>> Algonac, Michigan 48001
>>
>> Volume I. ISBN: 0-917256-01-8
>> Volume 2: ISBN: 0-917256-06-9
>> Volume 3: ISBN: 0-917256-21-2
>>
>> The books are absolutely incredible. They are Afrocentric, and
>> provide in depth background on a host of subjects. The Dictionary
>> of African Biography, which is essentially volume 3, continues
>> information that is far better than the Encyclopedia Britannica on
>> things African.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------
>>
>> Here is a copy of the 1962 letter originally written by W.E.B. Du
>> Bois when he became Director of the Secretariat for the
>> Encyclopedia Africana Project. It provides good insight into the
>> original intent of Du Bois on the EA Project. This is copied
>> verbatim with permission from the current director of the EA,
>> Ms. Grace Bansa. It is a rare document that both she and I feel
>> needs to be read by Africans throughout the Maafa. Treasure it,
>> and please feel free to distribute it as widely as possible.
>> ------------------------
>>
>> A PROPOSED ENCYCLOPEDIA AFRICANA
>>
>> W.E.B. Du Bois
>>
>> Director of the Secretariat
>> Encyclopedia Africana
>> Accra Ghana
>> April, 1962
>>
>> Early in 1962 preparatory work toward the compilation and
>> production of an Encyclopedia Africana was formally initiated in
>> Accra, Ghana, under the sponsorship of the Ghana Academy of
>> Sciences. As Director of the Secretariat for this undertaking, I
>> am naturally most anxious that what we propose become both well
>> known and properly understood in scholarly circles throughout the
>> world, to the end that we may secure the widest possible
>> cooperation. It is with this purpose in mind that the present =
brief,
>> preliminary statement is offered.
>>
>> First, a word of background. In 1909 when I was teaching
>> history and economics in the Negro University of Atlanta,
>> Atlanta, Georgia, I proposed the preparation of an "Encyclopedia
>> Africana". I secured as members of the Board of Advisors, in
>> addition to sixty-two American Negro scholars, Sir Henry
>> Johnstone, K.C.B., and Professor W.M. Flinders Petrie, D.C.L,
>> of England; Professor Giuseppe Sergi of Italy; Dr. J. Denniker of
>> France; Professor William James, LL.D., and Franz Boas, Ph.D.
>> of Harvard and Columbia respectively, and many others.
>> However, I was never able to raise the funds to carry the
>> enterprise forward.
>>
>> In 1934 the Phelps Stokes fund initiated a new project to prepare
>> and publish an "Encyclopedia of the Negro". I was chosen as
>> Editor-in-Chief and for the next ten years gave intermittent effort
>> to the project; but again the necessary funds, which we estimated
>> then at $260,100, could not be secured. Perhaps it was too soon
>> to expect so large an amount for so ambitious a project to be
>> carried out be Negroes and built mainly on Negro scholarship.
>> Nevertheless, a preparatory volume summarizing the effort was
>> published in 1944.
>>
>> When I was in Ghana, West Africa, in 1960 witnessing the
>> inauguration of the independent Republic, the President, Dr.
>> Kwame Nkrumah, asked me if I again would plan an
>> Encyclopedia Africana. I consented to do this and to consult
>> personally and by letter a number of persons who might be
>> interested in this project.
>>
>> My idea is to prepare and publish an Encyclopedia not on the
>> vague subject of race, but on the peoples inhabiting the continent
>> of Africa. I propose an Encyclopedia edited mainly be African
>> scholars. I am anxious that it be a scientific production and not
>> a matter of propaganda. While there should be included among
>> its writers the best students of Africa in the world, I want the
>> proposed Encyclopedia to be written mainly from the African
>> point of view by people who know and understand the history and
>> culture of Africans.
>>
>> My thought also is that it would be a great advantage if at this
>> juncture the interest and research of the African intelligentsia
>> were concentrated on the history of the past and the cultural
>> remains of Africa; that this might direct their action away from
>> political and tribal divisions, give them a body of truth to guide
>> them, and unite them in wide agreement as to what has happened
>> on this continent and what can happen in the future.
>>
>> I realize that this is going to involve difficulties: first, the
>> comparatively small number of Africans who are scientific
>> students of Africa; and secondly, the attitude of European scholars
>> toward Africans. There is, I am sure, a great deal of interest,
>> sympathy and good will among British, French, Belgian, and
>> German scholars towards the African peoples. But there is also
>> much prejudice and condescension based upon certain assumptions
>> toward Africans that are almost inevitable among persons
>> educated in Europe. I believe both of these difficulties are
>> surmountable.
>>
>> African political independence can mean the encouragement and
>> flowering of independent scientific study of African history by
>> Africans, and there is already some evidence of this. On the
>> other side, a significant number of Europeans have in recent years
>> made valuable contributions to the true reading of Africa's past.
>>
>> Since 1960 I have been in correspondence about the proposed
>> Encyclopedia with leading students of African history and culture
>> in Britain, Europe east and west, America, Asia and Africa.
>> Though there remain individuals and institutions to be written to,
>> I have already received close to a hundred responses from among
>> those in various countries around the world who are regarded as
>> most eminent in this are of scientific research. The responses
>> have on the whole been exceedingly encouraging. Most have
>> expressed concurrence with the idea and willingness to cooperate,
>> and many have contained valuable comments and suggestions. (A
>> digest of the opinions expressed is in preparation.)
>>
>> The Ghana Academy of Sciences (formerly known as the Ghana
>> Academy of Learning) decided at its meeting on October 31, 1960
>> to sponsor the project for an Encyclopedia Africana as I had
>> outlined it. At a subsequent meeting on December 21, 1961, at
>> which I was present and gave a report, the Academy formally
>> agreed that the planning and production of the proposed
>> Encyclopedia should be carried forward by a Secretariat under my
>> directorship. It was further agreed that an initial grant of funds
>> would be provided by the Government of Ghana for the purpose
>> of starting this work.
>>
>> While it is essential that the main and concentrated effort should
>> be centered where the project has been initiated - in Ghana, I
>> wish to emphasize what I said in my report to members of the
>> Academy: "that all Africa should be invited and urged to
>> participate and to share in authority and support." At the outset,
>> we are seeking the advice and counsel of leading authorities in all
>> Africa in determining the answers to various questions of
>> substance and procedure involved in planning and preparing the
>> Encyclopedia. A formal request for the practical assistance of the
>> governments of all independent African states will be made in due
>> course.
>>
>> It is planned that our Secretariat here in Accra will establish and
>> maintain a close liaison with teams of scholars in various parts of
>> Africa engaged in work on specific problems in their respective
>> areas.
>>
>> Further, it is expected that the Editorial Board, as it comes to be
>> established, will be broadly representative of all Africa, the
>> members of the Board having as their common aim the
>> preparation and publication of an Encyclopedia Africana which is
>> at the same time authentically African and scientific. This Board
>> may in turn wish to invite the cooperation of a body of advisors
>> representing the best scientific scholarship relating to Africa
>> available outside that continent.
>>
>> Such in brief outline is the background, aim, and broad plan of
>> our work for an Encyclopedia Africana. We are yet only in the
>> preparatory stage of the work. It will proceed with deliberation,
>> and it will take time. If the first volume can be published in ten
>> years time, we will be satisfied.
>>
>> I eagerly invite your cooperation in bringing this matter to the
>> attention of individual scholars, learned societies and institutions
>> interested in such a project. We welcome all inquiries of opinion
>> about what we here propose. Above all, we seek the assistance
>> and support of all who can contribute to the realization of this
>> endeavor.
>>
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>> >From Bro. Ray:
>>
>> Regardless of what we think of Du Bois, the man evolved. He
>> called Garvey a "fat, Black monkey" regretted it and continued to
>> change as was necessary for the times. He had his flaws (don't we
>> all) but in the end, the brother knew that Africa was where we all
>> should look to for our strength and our future. I'm publishing an
>> article that should be out in early 1997 on my research entitlted
>> Fisk in Africa: George Padmore, W.E.B. Du Bois and the
>> Encyclopedia Africana." Finally, if you haven't already, read
>> David Levering Lewis' (another Fisk graduate) biography of Du
>> Bois. It's simply the best, and describes his being color struck,
>> his feud with Garvey and Washington and a lot more. If you
>> *really* want to understand Du Bois, read Lewis' biography in a
>> short period (3-4 weeks) and then begin with a chronological
>> reading of his writings. His first major work, was his dissertation
>> at Harvard (The Suppression of the African Slave Trade), but his
>> earlier writings as a student at Fisk, and even in Great Barrington
>> need to be read for understanding the complexities of the brother.
>> Most of us have read *about* Du Bois, rather than what he said
>> himself about himself. His writings should be read
>> *chronologically* so that you can get a feel for his pan-Africanist
>> development through his lifetime. Du Bois was his best critic, and
>> few have taken upon themselves the daunting task of reading his
>> writings directly.
>>
>> Whenever I travel to Ghana, I am always struck by the fact that
>> the average Ghanaian knows far more about Du Bois than Africans
>> in Amerikkka. He is revered for what he, Padmore and Nkrumah
>> attempted to do in developing the idea of a united Africa and
>> global pan-African theory *and* practice.
>>
>> Du Bois was an old brother when he died in '63, and his life
>> parallels a lot of things that happened to Us as a people during that
>> past 100 years. You must read Du Bois in a context, that few of
>> us have done. For example, most of us don't know that while
>> earlier espousing the notion of the "Talented Tenth" he later
>> rejected it as being an elitist concept.
>>
>> This has been a long post, but I hope it helps.
>>
>> Peace,
>>
>> Ray Winbush,
>> Fisk University
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>> Submitted by: Sis. Marpessa
>> http://www.webcom.com/nattyreb
>> !PLEASE PASS THIS ON VIA EVERY MEANS AVAILABLE!
>>
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________
>> Akil Khalfani -
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Asalaamu alaikum Mambuna,
Alhamdulillah wasallalahu wasallim ala Nabiyyina Muhammad. 'Abaraka buye' as
the old Mandinko men would say. This is great.
Allahumma salli wasallim alaa Nabiyyina Muhammad. Wasalaam.
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Two thumbs up for Kenneth Best!!!!
i was filled with joy when i read kenneth best's response to ebrima, that
was just the right answer for him. t think that most of the questions he
asked were none of his business. afterall who cares about how much amadou
samba paid for the daily observer.
Mr Best i don't know whether you are still on the list but i just want you
to know that i just like your response to ebrima, it was in a well matured
way.
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Folks, this is from The Gambia Daily's Monday June 21, 1999. It looks =
like Gunjur is on the way to becoming Gambia's "Silicon Coast"!=20
Master Abdoulrahman Jallow deserves our a big thumbs up and =
encouragement.
Malanding Jaiteh
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Grade 7 student invents FM radio station in Gunjur=20
By Mohammed Gabisi
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Abdoulrahman Jallow, a Grade 7 student of the Gunjur Junior =
Secondary School, has invented the first radio station and telephone in =
Gunjur, Kombo South. With the aid of six of his colleagues, four boys =
and two girls as DJs, the station relays a variety of programmes ranging =
from music to requests and the linking up with the Radio Gambia during =
news broadcasts.
The station named "Gunjur FM" is said to be transmitting on 88.95 =
Megahertz on the FM band. With the help of an external antenna, the =
radio is said to be received on a radius of over 300 metres away from =
the station. Abdoulrahman Jallow said that it took him five months to =
build the radio station. He has plans to extend its reception, but =
efforts are being hampered by financial constraints. He revealed that =
the cost of batteries for their weekend transmissions by the six DJs =
comes from regular contributions they make.
Mr Jallow is appealing to individuals and companies such as Gamtel =
to come to his assistance so that his radio station could be heard in =
every corner of The Gambia.
As to why they operate only on weekends, he said that since they =
are all students, they would not want the radio station business to =
affect their studies.
He revealed that if he is provided with a transmitter, booster and =
a new corrugated iron sheets, he would be able to make satellite =
receiver to bolster his transmissions.
His telephone, operating on a single line, uses a sound box as an =
earpiece where messages could be received during conversations.
Abdoulrahman has said that he would choose Science as discipline, =
at Senior Secondary School level to continue his work as a scientist and =
future technician of high repute. He has proposed to continue with the =
radio and telephone work to see how best they could be improved in the =
near future.
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Folks, this is from The Gambia Daily's Monday June =
21, 1999.=20
It looks like Gunjur is on the way to becoming Gambia's =
"Silicon=20
Coast"! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Master Abdoulrahman Jallow deserves our a big thumbs =
up and=20
encouragement.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Malanding Jaiteh</FONT></DIV>
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name=3D"Grade 7 student invents FM radio station in =
Gunjur"><SMALL><STRONG><FONT=20
face=3DArial>Grade 7 student invents FM radio station in=20
Gunjur</FONT></STRONG></SMALL></A></TD></TR>
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<TD width=3D"100%"><FONT face=3DArial><SMALL><STRONG>
<P align=3Dright></STRONG>By Mohammed =
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<TD width=3D"100%"> =20
<P><FONT face=3DArial>Abdoulrahman Jallow, a Grade 7 student of =
the Gunjur=20
Junior Secondary School, has invented the first radio station and=20
telephone in Gunjur, Kombo South. With the aid of six of his =
colleagues, four boys and two girls as DJs, the station relays a =
variety=20
of programmes ranging from music to requests and the linking up =
with the=20
Radio Gambia during news broadcasts.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial>The station named "Gunjur FM" is said to be=20
transmitting on 88.95 Megahertz on the FM band. With the =
help of an=20
external antenna, the radio is said to be received on a radius of =
over 300=20
metres away from the station. Abdoulrahman Jallow said that =
it took=20
him five months to build the radio station. He has plans to =
extend=20
its reception, but efforts are being hampered by financial=20
constraints. He revealed that the cost of batteries for =
their=20
weekend transmissions by the six DJs comes from regular =
contributions they=20
make.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial>Mr Jallow is appealing to individuals and =
companies=20
such as Gamtel to come to his assistance so that his radio station =
could=20
be heard in every corner of The Gambia.<BR>As to why they operate =
only on=20
weekends, he said that since they are all students, they would not =
want=20
the radio station business to affect their studies.<BR></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial>He revealed that if he is provided with a =
transmitter,=20
booster and a new corrugated iron sheets, he would be able to make =
satellite receiver to bolster his transmissions.<BR>His telephone, =
operating on a single line, uses a sound box as an earpiece where =
messages=20
could be received during conversations.<BR>Abdoulrahman has said =
that he=20
would choose Science as discipline, at Senior Secondary School =
level to=20
continue his work as a scientist and future technician of high=20
repute. He has proposed to continue with the radio and =
telephone=20
work to see how best they could be improved in the near=20
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due to recent expansion
Africa Online International seeks Corporate Webmaster
Africa Online is the only pan-African ISP and Web developer on the African
continent. We are a rapidly expanding company with a strong commitment to
excellence. Africa Online International seeks a dynamic individual to serve as
Corporate Webmaster for its Internet Business Solutions (IBS) civision (based
in Abidjan, Cote d'Ivoire).
Start date: on or before September 1999
The Corporate Webmaster will be responsible for advising on and implementing
all technical aspects related to the corporate IBS business plan including
managing the Africa Online Web sites, determining the best platforms to meet
divisional needs, defining site architecture, developing tools for the remote
entry of content, researching and developing new products, coordinating
projects with Africa Online webmasters across the continent, managing
consultants and outsource partners, drafting and implementing standard
procedures, and monitoring production systems.
Candidate must have a college degree (Bac +5) and be proficinet in SQL Server,
Oracle 8, Unix (Solaris), NT, C/C++, Perl, html, and java. Must be an excellent
programmer with solid database design and administration experience plus
systems and information architectue experience. Good graphic design sense a
plus. Must have 3 to 5 years experience in a high profile position in the
Internet industry.
Must have proven track record in project implementation from needs analysis to
final evaluation ; be a creative thinker who takes initiative and a team player
who can also lead ; be a good planner who is highly organized ; keep abreast of
the latest Internet trends and developments, have good business sense, and be
capable of making technical recommendations and implementing them. Must be
fluent in Englsh and preferably French. Supervisory and international
experience are definite pluses. Preference given to candidates of an African
nationality.
Interested candidates who meet the profile should forward **by July 15, 1999**
cover letter, resume, salary requirements, and professional reference to IBS
Corporate headquarters by mail: 04 BP 1442, Abidjan 04, Cote d'Ivoire, fax :
(225) 21.90.01, carrier: Immeuble Alpha, 11eme etage, Plateau or e-mail : Only
shortlisted candidates will be notified by July 22.
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Hi folks,
FYI
Katim
Antje Becker wrote:
> Greetings all,
>
> attached is the advertisement of a position of Project Director for a
> regional communication initiative in eight countries in sub-Saharan
> Africa.
>
> Please address questions and applications to:
> The Chairperson,
> Africa Alive! Interim Steering Committee
> P. O. Box 22366
> Kampala, Uganda
>
> and send to [log in to unmask] or swiftuganda.com
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> Thanks and greetings,
> Antje Becker
>
> VACANCY: PROJECT DIRECTOR FOR AFRICA ALIVE!
>
> Africa Alive! is a new bold communication initiative to improve
> reproductive health and reduce the spread of HIV/AIDS amongst
> the youth in Africa. The initiative will be implemented through
> synergistic partnerships among 50 organizations in eight
> Sub-Saharan African countries: Ghana, Nigeria, Kenya, Uganda,
> Tanzania, Zambia, Zimbabwe, and South Africa.
>
> Africa Alive! is seeking a suitable candidate for the
> post of Project Director.
>
> Responsibilities of the Project Director
> Coordinate Africa Alive! activities in the region including
> liasing with national working groups, Board of Directors, donors,
> and technical assistance institutions.
>
> Fund-raise and manage donor and private sector relations
> for regional Africa Alive! activities.
>
> Provide support for national working groups for advocacy
> and fundraising as needed.
>
> Provide other technical assistance to national working
> groups as required.
>
> Manage funds, contracts, and technical assistance to
> Africa Alive!
>
> Provide overall management and administration of the
> regional Africa Alive! office.
>
> Qualifications
> University degree and relevant post-graduate training in either
> public health or communication related studies. Minimum five
> years experience in the field of adolescent reproductive health,
> HIV/AIDS, behavior change communication (BCC), or advocacy.
> Experience in working with NGOs, governments and international
> and donor community in Africa. Fluency in English and strong
> interpersonal and written communication skills a must. Computer
> literacy and knowledge of French will be an added advantage.
>
> Duty Station: Kampala, Uganda
> Extensive travel in the region will be required.
>
> Salary package commensurate with experience. All applications
> including a detailed curriculum vitae and to referees should be
> addressed to:
>
> The Chairperson,
> Africa Alive! Interim Steering Committee
> P. O. Box 22366
> Kampala, Uganda
>
> Deadline: July 14, 1999
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:34:04 -0400
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Hello G-L,
I have been following the issues sent to the G-L from various opinions
and found others interesting and others unnecessary.This is so because
some people are just writing for the shake of having access to a PC
but without enlightening the rest on important issues.Much debate has
been leveled on the sale of the Daily Observer and its associated
effects on its editorial independence and also on the recent
appointments and deployment of Ambassadors to foreign countries.These
are the issues raised among others which spark debates,arguments and
in some others abusive languages to a fellow brother.
I sometimes wonder what image are these people portraying being
countrymen?
The sale of the Daily Observer to Amadou Samba, a Gambian is indeed a
welcome idea but was the vendor taking into account the implications
behind the sale?
Kenneth Y. Best, the Proprietor of the paper,who is a renowned
journalist and for that matter encountering problems while in The
GAmbia should be blamed for making this choice and not the new
management who are right if they wish to sack all the efficient staffs
of the Paper.
Should Mr. Best, not have conducted an opinion poll on the sale before
taking the decision? Did he forget that since he was away these staffs
dedicated their lives in ensuring the existence and independence of
the paper? Did he not foresee the consequences?
These and other issues are the gist of the matter but not to put the
blame to the new management for whatever change they deem necessary.
On the issue of progressive Gambians and intellectuals,it is high time
for our intellectuals to prove their efficiency by contributing
positively and progressively to emancipate the Gambians from
selfishness and greed for wealth with their families. It is very sad
that throughtout the whole period of my higher education in the
Gambia,no Gambian intellectual taught me, it is thanks to the
foreigners who are laying all the foundation. Why not progressive
Gambians and intellectuals think of doing something productive for the
Gambian population by either doing some projects back home that could
contribute to the development of intellect. Can we not learn from
Nigerian intellectuals fighting tooth and nail to ensure the survival
of their nation in good or in bad times?
We should try and use this opportunity to unify Gambians all over the
world through this net rather than spreading hatred,insults and
disunity in the eyes of the world. Let us educate one another on
matters that are of interest to all and help those who are not in a
position.
Let us debate issues of national importance,then try to find out the
problem and the solutions rather than entertaining abusive language
for selfish interest or recognition.
I wish to continue and elaborate more on this subject but due to lack
of time I leave at this until next time.
I hope I am not hurting anyone. Your comments are welcome.
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:59:31 -0700
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Hello Haruna here is some of my responds to you topic. Please let accept
changes we need it and changes is not easy, there is always more no than
yes. Let give our own brothers to try their chances action is louder than
voice. I know that most of us talk too much and feel very confident about
our own opinion on matters without taking into consideration that to try and
move is better than to be stagnant.
My responses are in Caps and right after you question.
Hello G-L,
I have been following the issues sent to the G-L from various opinions
and found others interesting and others unnecessary.This is so because
some people are just writing for the shake of having access to a PC
but without enlightening the rest on important issues.Much debate has
been leveled on the sale of the Daily Observer and its associated
effects on its editorial independence and also on the recent
appointments and deployment of Ambassadors to foreign countries.These
are the issues raised among others which spark debates,arguments and
in some others abusive languages to a fellow brother.
I sometimes wonder what image are these people portraying being
countrymen?
BE MORE SPECIFY ON THE IMAGE YOU TRYIING TO TALK ABOUT?
The sale of the Daily Observer to Amadou Samba, a Gambian is indeed a
welcome idea but was the vendor taking into account the implications
behind the sale?
I THINK IT IS TOO EARLY TO SPECULATE, JUST BECAUSE CHANGES IN HAPPENING AND
NOT IN FAVOR OF SOME OF US DOES NOT MEAN THAT I S THE END OF THE GAME.
Kenneth Y. Best, the Proprietor of the paper,who is a renowned
journalist and for that matter encountering problems while in The
GAmbia should be blamed for making this choice and not the new
management who are right if they wish to sack all the efficient staffs
of the Paper.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BLAME YOU WANT TO PUT ON K BEST, LOOK BROTHER LETS
CALL A SPADE A SPADE. THE MAN IS A BUSINESS MAN SO WHAT DO YOU EXPECT, IF
A GOOD REWARD COMES IN ARE YOU GOING TO TURN IT DOWN. THE WORD EFFICIENT
STAFF IS NOT AN EASY THING TO JUSTIFY, YOU AND I MAY THINK THEY ARE
EFFICIENT BUT REMEMBER THEY ARE WORKING FOR THE OWNERS AND THAT IS THE TRUTH
IN REAL LIFE.
Should Mr. Best, not have conducted an opinion poll on the sale before
taking the decision? Did he forget that since he was away these staffs
dedicated their lives in ensuring the existence and independence of
the paper? Did he not foresee the consequences?
WHY AN OPINION POLL IT IS NOT A CORPERATION IT IS OWN BY HIM AND HE HAVE THE
RIGHT TO GIVE IT AWAY FOR FREE TO ANYONE HE WISHESES.
YES THE STAFF DEDICATED THEIR LIVES BUT REMEMBER FOR WHO? YOU SHOULD ASK
YOUR SELF THAT QUESTION. IS IT FOR Mr. BEST OF FOR THEIR OWN LIVING?
These and other issues are the gist of the matter but not to put the
blame to the new management for whatever change they deem necessary.
THANKS NOT MUCH TIME BUT I WILL GET BACK TO YOU ON THE REST OF YOUR TOPIC.
BRO YUS
On the issue of progressive Gambians and intellectuals,it is high time
for our intellectuals to prove their efficiency by contributing
positively and progressively to emancipate the Gambians from
selfishness and greed for wealth with their families. It is very sad
that throughtout the whole period of my higher education in the
Gambia,no Gambian intellectual taught me, it is thanks to the
foreigners who are laying all the foundation. Why not progressive
Gambians and intellectuals think of doing something productive for the
Gambian population by either doing some projects back home that could
contribute to the development of intellect. Can we not learn from
Nigerian intellectuals fighting tooth and nail to ensure the survival
of their nation in good or in bad times?
We should try and use this opportunity to unify Gambians all over the
world through this net rather than spreading hatred,insults and
disunity in the eyes of the world. Let us educate one another on
matters that are of interest to all and help those who are not in a
position.
Let us debate issues of national importance,then try to find out the
problem and the solutions rather than entertaining abusive language
for selfish interest or recognition.
I wish to continue and elaborate more on this subject but due to lack
of time I leave at this until next time.
I hope I am not hurting anyone. Your comments are welcome.
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GREETINGS,
A 60 page report issued by the United Nations Human Rights commissioner
Ms. MARY ROBINSON ranked SIERRA LEONE among the worst violators of Human
Rights in the world for nearly a decade of civil war.The report details
how entire families were gunned down in the streets,children and adults
had their limbs hacked off with machetes, and girls were taken to rebel
camps and sexually abused.It is high time for the UN and the United
States to stop this madness and carnage in our continent.Enough is
enough.
Weyeh.
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This may be useful to some of you.
Malanding Jaiteh
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Subject: ECO/USGS#164 - BS Physical Science - Lafayette, LA
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> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 06:40:47 -0700
> From: Martin Mitchell <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: ECO/USGS#164 - BS Physical Science - Lafayette,LA
>
> USGS Earth Science Intern Program*
> Administered by The Environmental Careers Organization
>
> Location: Lafayette, LA
> Length: 1 Year Minimum
> Description: USGS #164 Deadline to Apply is July 7, 1999 Internship to
> begin
> by August 1999
> The intern will participate in the compilation and analysis of ground-
and
> helicopter-based field data (with limited collection), including: canopy
> light
> attenuation measurements, canopy reflectance spectra, photography,
descriptive
> data (height, species type, etc.), etc., and relate this field data to
data
> collected with satellite or aircraft sensor systems (optical to
microwave).
> This project seeks to calibrate remote sensing data (satellite or
aircraft)
> with the field data, and suggest appropriate sensor types and ranges for
> discriminating different landcovers and assessing their health.
>
> Objectives of Internship:
> The internship will organize the field data into sub data sets related to
sub
> objectives within the overall project objectives. There are five main sub
> objectives; (1.) monitoring burn and herbivory impact and recovery, (2.)
> comparison of different types of wetlands with the optical and microwave
> data,
> (3.) detecting flooding beneath vegetation, (4.) describing phenological
> changes in vegetation, and (5.) selection of temporal, spatial, and
spectral
> resolutions for mapping and monitoring various wetland and adjacent
upland
> species.
>
> Specific Tasks:
> 1. Organize all field data by project.
> 2. Apply statistical analyses to field data as required by Project Chief.
> 3. Extraction of data from satellite and aircraft images (remotely sensed
> data).
>
> 4. Relate field data to remotely sensed data.
>
> Work Experience Benefit(s) to Intern:
> 1. Training in organizing and analyzing large, complex, and disparate data
> sets,
>
> 2. Training in statistical analysis,
> 3. Training and experience in field data collections in support of remote
> sensing projects, training in image processing (2d analysis) and
geographic
> information systems functions and output methodologies,
> 4. Experience in working with large (>Gigs) data bases, sophisticated Unix
> workstations, remote computer collections systems, and high speed network
> systems.
>
> Specific Qualifications Required:
> In order to be eligible for this program you must have graduated from a US
> College or University within the last 12 months, or plan to receive degree
by
> May 1999 (US Citizens that studied abroad are also eligible). Non-US
Citizens
> must have attended college in the US and you must have work authorization
in
> the US for up to two years, without sponsorship.
>
> A bachelor's degree preferably in the physical sciences (including
geography
> and related fields) with a GPA above 2.9. Some computer experience in
> entering
> data and/or analyzing data sets. Some experience in remote sensing,
> geographic information systems, field data collection methods, or
techniques
> of physical analysis (engineering, geology, biology, chemistry,
oceanography,
> etc.).
>
> Additional Qualifications Desirable:
> Advanced image processing (Imagine, ERDAS, PCI, etc.), Advanced GIS
(ArcInfo,
> ArcView, etc.), computer programming (Fortran, visual basic, C, C++,
etc.),
> experience in field data collections and analyzing data from the filed
data
> collections.
>
> Stipend:
> $26,921/Year. You would officially be employed by the Environmental
Careers
> Organization, not the USGS. ECO would handle all administrative functions
of
> employment such as payroll, sick leave, timesheets, taxes, etc.
>
> Contact:
> If you are interested in applying for this particular position please send
a
> project specific cover letter (stating Project #164), resume, reference
list
> and computer skill listing (letters of recommendation may be beneficial
for
> this particular project) to Martin Mitchell at the Environmental Careers
> Organization, 179 South Street, Boston, MA 02111. You may also fax or
email
> this information to FAX 617-426-8159, email [log in to unmask] Deadline
> Date is
> July 7, 1999!
>
>
>
> Martin Mitchell
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> 179 South Street
> Boston, MA 02111
> 617-426-4783 ext 134
> 617-426-8159 FAX
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> Check out ECO's website at www.eco.org for a complete list of available
> positions!
> Don't forget about the National Environmental Career Conference in
> Hartford, CT on October 22nd and 23rd!
>
>
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Farage,
You mentioned:
Kenneth Y. Best, the Proprietor of the paper,who is a renowned
journalist and for that matter encountering problems while in The
GAmbia should be blamed for making this choice and not the new
management who are right if they wish to sack all the efficient =
staffs
of the Paper.
Should Mr. Best, not have conducted an opinion poll on the sale =
before
taking the decision? Did he forget that since he was away these =
staffs
dedicated their lives in ensuring the existence and independence of
the paper? Did he not foresee the consequences?
I think you are missing the point. You failed to realize that Kenneth =
Best was the sole proprietor (judging from the sale process) of the =
paper therefore he does not have to seek any ones' approval to sell it. =
In order words, it is his opinion that counts. Also, he is in =
business.....profits, profits, profits...does that mean anything to you? =
=20
In present day business, big corporations are being engulfed by even =
bigger ones in thousands of mergers and takeovers happening in the world =
of business every single day. You may be right if you say that he has an =
ethical or moral obligation to his former employees, but again, =
depending on what the sale agreement entails, he may have only short =
term control over their destiny at the Observer.=20
The employees on the other hand have a contractual obligation to do the =
job for which they were hired. If this involved risking their lives, it =
is their own prerogative.
How do you expect Mr. Best to foresee the consequences of the sale? He =
can only account for what happened while he owned the paper not anything =
after he sells it!
I only hope that Mr. Best was not pressured into selling the paper, he =
has every right to sell his paper as a sole proprietor.
=20
On the issue of progressive Gambians and intellectuals,it is high time
for our intellectuals to prove their efficiency by contributing
positively and progressively to emancipate the Gambians from
selfishness and greed for wealth with their families.
Mr.. Farage, accept my sympathies......this is a problem that will =
always exist to tell you the fact.=20
I know for a fact that, I like many in the Diaspora, will not burst my =
butt working odd jobs here in the US to pay for my education only to =
return home to be kicked around by some moron up there. I will first =
ensure that I atlas enjoy my hard earned qualifications with relatively =
better incentives out here before I think about "sacrificing". I know I =
may sound "unpatriotic", but this is the fact.=20
You may direct your query to those who have been sponsored by the state =
to pursue higher education abroad. They are the ones "obligated" to =
return right away.
Also given the current state of affairs, hmmm......
I will join you in encouraging every Gambian to atleast engage in some =
form of investment back home from which our own selves will be the =
benefactors.
Please don't get me wrong.
The truth will always prevail.
Abdoulie Jallow
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From: Haruna Farage <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 1999 4:24 AM
Subject: THE FALL OF THE DAILY OBSERVER. WHO IS TO BLAME?
=20
=20
Hello G-L,
=20
I have been following the issues sent to the G-L from various =
opinions
and found others interesting and others unnecessary.This is so =
because
some people are just writing for the shake of having access to =
a PC
but without enlightening the rest on important issues.Much =
debate has
been leveled on the sale of the Daily Observer and its =
associated
effects on its editorial independence and also on the recent
appointments and deployment of Ambassadors to foreign =
countries.These
are the issues raised among others which spark =
debates,arguments and
in some others abusive languages to a fellow brother.
=20
I sometimes wonder what image are these people portraying being
countrymen?
=20
The sale of the Daily Observer to Amadou Samba, a Gambian is =
indeed a
welcome idea but was the vendor taking into account the =
implications
behind the sale?
=20
Kenneth Y. Best, the Proprietor of the paper,who is a renowned
journalist and for that matter encountering problems while in =
The
GAmbia should be blamed for making this choice and not the new
management who are right if they wish to sack all the efficient =
staffs
of the Paper.
=20
Should Mr. Best, not have conducted an opinion poll on the sale =
before
taking the decision? Did he forget that since he was away these =
staffs
dedicated their lives in ensuring the existence and =
independence of
the paper? Did he not foresee the consequences?
=20
These and other issues are the gist of the matter but not to =
put the
blame to the new management for whatever change they deem =
necessary.
=20
On the issue of progressive Gambians and intellectuals,it is =
high time
for our intellectuals to prove their efficiency by contributing
positively and progressively to emancipate the Gambians from
selfishness and greed for wealth with their families. It is =
very sad
that throughtout the whole period of my higher education in the
Gambia,no Gambian intellectual taught me, it is thanks to the
foreigners who are laying all the foundation. Why not =
progressive
Gambians and intellectuals think of doing something productive =
for the
Gambian population by either doing some projects back home that =
could
contribute to the development of intellect. Can we not learn =
from
Nigerian intellectuals fighting tooth and nail to ensure the =
survival
of their nation in good or in bad times?
=20
We should try and use this opportunity to unify Gambians all =
over the
world through this net rather than spreading hatred,insults and
disunity in the eyes of the world. Let us educate one another =
on
matters that are of interest to all and help those who are not =
in a
position.
=20
Let us debate issues of national importance,then try to find =
out the
problem and the solutions rather than entertaining abusive =
language
for selfish interest or recognition.
=20
I wish to continue and elaborate more on this subject but due =
to lack
of time I leave at this until next time.
=20
I hope I am not hurting anyone. Your comments are welcome.
=20
=
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Gambia-L
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode"=20
size=3D2>Farage,</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode" size=3D2>You=20
mentioned:</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode"=20
size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV>Kenneth Y. Best, the Proprietor of the paper,who is a=20
renowned<BR> journalist and for that matter =
encountering=20
problems while in The<BR> GAmbia should be =
blamed for=20
making this choice and not the new<BR> =
management who=20
are right if they wish to sack all the efficient=20
staffs<BR> of the =
Paper.<BR><BR> =20
Should Mr. Best, not have conducted an opinion poll on the sale=20
before<BR> taking the decision? Did he forget =
that since=20
he was away these staffs<BR> dedicated their =
lives in=20
ensuring the existence and independence of<BR> =
the=20
paper? Did he not foresee the consequences?<BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode" size=3D2>I think you =
are missing=20
the point. You failed to realize that Kenneth Best was the sole =
proprietor=20
(judging from the sale process) of the paper therefore he does not have =
to seek=20
any ones' approval to sell it. In order words, it is his opinion that =
counts.=20
Also, he is in business.....profits, profits, profits...does that mean =
anything=20
to you? </FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode" size=3D2>In present =
day=20
business, big corporations are being engulfed by even bigger ones in =
thousands=20
of mergers and takeovers happening in the world of business every single =
day.=20
You may be right if you say that he has an ethical or moral obligation =
to his=20
former employees, but again, depending on what the sale agreement =
entails, he=20
may have only short term control over their destiny at the Observer.=20
</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode"=20
size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans =
Unicode"=20
size=3D2>The employees on the other hand have a contractual obligation =
to do the=20
job for which they were hired. If this involved risking their lives, it =
is their=20
own prerogative.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode" size=3D2>How do you =
expect Mr.=20
Best to foresee the consequences of the sale? He can only account =
for what=20
happened while he owned the paper not anything after he sells=20
it!</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode" size=3D2>I only hope =
that Mr.=20
Best was not pressured into selling the paper, he has every right to =
sell his=20
paper as a sole proprietor.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode"=20
size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode"=20
size=3D2> </FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode" =
size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG>On=20
the issue of progressive Gambians and intellectuals,it is high=20
time<BR> for our intellectuals to prove their =
efficiency=20
by contributing<BR> positively and progressively =
to=20
emancipate the Gambians from<BR> selfishness and =
greed=20
for wealth with their families.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode" size=3D2><FONT=20
color=3D#000000>Mr.</FONT>. Farage, accept my sympathies......this is a =
problem=20
that will always exist to tell you the fact. </FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode"=20
size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans =
Unicode"=20
size=3D2>I know for a fact that, I like many in the Diaspora, will not =
burst my=20
butt working odd jobs here in the US to pay for my education only to =
return home=20
to be kicked around by some moron up there. I will first ensure that I =
atlas=20
enjoy my hard earned qualifications with relatively better =
incentives out=20
here before I think about "sacrificing". I know I may sound=20
"unpatriotic", but this is the fact. =
</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode"=20
size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans =
Unicode"=20
size=3D2>You may direct your query to those who have been sponsored by =
the state=20
to pursue higher education abroad. They are the ones =
"obligated" to=20
return right away.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode"=20
size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans =
Unicode"=20
size=3D2>Also given the current state of affairs,=20
hmmm......</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode" size=3D2>I will join =
you in=20
encouraging every Gambian to atleast engage in some form of investment =
back home=20
from which our own selves will be the =
benefactors.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode"=20
size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode" =
size=3D2>Please=20
don't get me wrong.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode"=20
size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode" =
size=3D2>The truth=20
will always prevail.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode"=20
size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"Lucida Sans Unicode" size=3D2>Abdoulie=20
Jallow</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
</B>Haruna Farage <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>><BR><B>To: </B><A =
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<<A=20
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</B>Thursday, June 24, 1999 4:24 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>THE FALL OF =
THE DAILY=20
OBSERVER. WHO IS TO =
BLAME?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT> =20
Hello G-L,<BR><BR> I have been following the =
issues=20
sent to the G-L from various opinions<BR> =
and found=20
others interesting and others unnecessary.This is so=20
because<BR> some people are just writing for =
the=20
shake of having access to a PC<BR> but =
without=20
enlightening the rest on important issues.Much debate=20
has<BR> been leveled on the sale of the =
Daily=20
Observer and its associated<BR> effects on =
its=20
editorial independence and also on the =
recent<BR> =20
appointments and deployment of Ambassadors to foreign=20
countries.These<BR> are the issues raised =
among=20
others which spark debates,arguments and<BR> =
in some=20
others abusive languages to a fellow=20
brother.<BR><BR> I sometimes wonder what =
image are=20
these people portraying being<BR> =20
countrymen?<BR><BR> The sale of the Daily =
Observer=20
to Amadou Samba, a Gambian is indeed a<BR> =
welcome=20
idea but was the vendor taking into account the=20
implications<BR> behind the=20
sale?<BR><BR> Kenneth Y. Best, the =
Proprietor of the=20
paper,who is a renowned<BR> journalist and =
for that=20
matter encountering problems while in =
The<BR> GAmbia=20
should be blamed for making this choice and not the=20
new<BR> management who are right if they =
wish to=20
sack all the efficient staffs<BR> of the=20
Paper.<BR><BR> Should Mr. Best, not have =
conducted=20
an opinion poll on the sale before<BR> =
taking the=20
decision? Did he forget that since he was away these=20
staffs<BR> dedicated their lives in ensuring =
the=20
existence and independence of<BR> the paper? =
Did he=20
not foresee the consequences?<BR><BR> These =
and=20
other issues are the gist of the matter but not to put=20
the<BR> blame to the new management for =
whatever=20
change they deem necessary.<BR><BR> On the =
issue of=20
progressive Gambians and intellectuals,it is high=20
time<BR> for our intellectuals to prove =
their=20
efficiency by contributing<BR> positively =
and=20
progressively to emancipate the Gambians =
from<BR> =20
selfishness and greed for wealth with their families. It is very=20
sad<BR> that throughtout the whole period of =
my=20
higher education in the<BR> Gambia,no =
Gambian=20
intellectual taught me, it is thanks to =
the<BR> =20
foreigners who are laying all the foundation. Why not=20
progressive<BR> Gambians and intellectuals =
think of=20
doing something productive for the<BR> =
Gambian=20
population by either doing some projects back home that=20
could<BR> contribute to the development of=20
intellect. Can we not learn from<BR> =
Nigerian=20
intellectuals fighting tooth and nail to ensure the=20
survival<BR> of their nation in good or in =
bad=20
times?<BR><BR> We should try and use this=20
opportunity to unify Gambians all over =
the<BR> world=20
through this net rather than spreading hatred,insults=20
and<BR> disunity in the eyes of the world. =
Let us=20
educate one another on<BR> matters that are =
of=20
interest to all and help those who are not in =
a<BR> =20
position.<BR><BR> Let us debate issues of =
national=20
importance,then try to find out the<BR> =
problem and=20
the solutions rather than entertaining abusive=20
language<BR> for selfish interest or=20
recognition.<BR><BR> I wish to continue and=20
elaborate more on this subject but due to =
lack<BR> =20
of time I leave at this until next =
time.<BR><BR> I=20
hope I am not hurting anyone. Your comments are=20
=
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:14:19 PDT
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From: Ndey Jobarteh <[log in to unmask]>
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Bamba,
I do agree with you that Kenneth Best is a businessman like any other
businessperson. He owes the paper and he deceided to sell it without any
considerations of the repercussion it will have to his staff. These peopl=
e who
did all they can to maintain the paper in his absence.
My only problem is that the staff at Daily Observer should have seen this=
coming, the government cannot stand freedom of press. THe selling of the =
Daily
Observer is not a suprise to me only that it came sooner than expected. I=
expected that the Staff would have already made an alternative move i:e
looking coming together and getting their own news papers. These are skil=
led
and talented people in their own rights. Maybe my expectations of them ar=
e too
high but i believe that as intellectuals or what ever we call ourselves, =
we
should be ready to our responsibilities and be ready to deal with the
realities.
I just came back from "Meet the People Tour" in the provinces after the
President's "Meet the Farmers Tour". It has been very educating, updating=
seating with people at the grass root level discusing with them the situa=
tion
of our country. You will get all these updates. =
I just passed by the Marcathy Square with anger watching the school kids =
who
have been standing on this hot sun since three o'clock when I passed by w=
ating
for the president to come and give his usual speeches. =
I felt this is outrageous, these kids need to go home and eat their lauch=
=2E THe
worse thing is that the members of the AFPRC have gone to their office he=
re at
the independence drive to eat their lauch but the school kids are sweatin=
g in
the heat. It is now 17:00hrs here and still the President has not shown u=
p
yet. I have not yet known how much has been spent in this tour but hopefu=
lly
you will get that, cause it is a huge investment.
I am so happy here for the fact that I can see things for myself and talk=
to
the people as well as doing a reality check.
For the Total liberation of all Gambians
THe STruggle Continues!!!!
Ndey Jobarteh
"Yusupha A.K Ceesay" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hello Haruna here is some of my responds to you topic. Please let accept
changes we need it and changes is not easy, there is always more no than
yes. Let give our own brothers to try their chances action is louder tha=
n
voice. I know that most of us talk too much and feel very confident abou=
t
our own opinion on matters without taking into consideration that to try =
and
move is better than to be stagnant.
My responses are in Caps and right after you question.
Hello G-L,
I have been following the issues sent to the G-L from various opinio=
ns
and found others interesting and others unnecessary.This is so becau=
se
some people are just writing for the shake of having access to a PC
but without enlightening the rest on important issues.Much debate ha=
s
been leveled on the sale of the Daily Observer and its associated
effects on its editorial independence and also on the recent
appointments and deployment of Ambassadors to foreign countries.Thes=
e
are the issues raised among others which spark debates,arguments and=
in some others abusive languages to a fellow brother.
I sometimes wonder what image are these people portraying being
countrymen?
BE MORE SPECIFY ON THE IMAGE YOU TRYIING TO TALK ABOUT?
The sale of the Daily Observer to Amadou Samba, a Gambian is indeed =
a
welcome idea but was the vendor taking into account the implications=
behind the sale?
I THINK IT IS TOO EARLY TO SPECULATE, JUST BECAUSE CHANGES IN HAPPENING A=
ND
NOT IN FAVOR OF SOME OF US DOES NOT MEAN THAT I S THE END OF THE GAME.
Kenneth Y. Best, the Proprietor of the paper,who is a renowned
journalist and for that matter encountering problems while in The
GAmbia should be blamed for making this choice and not the new
management who are right if they wish to sack all the efficient staf=
fs
of the Paper.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BLAME YOU WANT TO PUT ON K BEST, LOOK BROTHER LETS=
CALL A SPADE A SPADE. THE MAN IS A BUSINESS MAN SO WHAT DO YOU EXPECT, =
IF
A GOOD REWARD COMES IN ARE YOU GOING TO TURN IT DOWN. THE WORD EFFICIEN=
T
STAFF IS NOT AN EASY THING TO JUSTIFY, YOU AND I MAY THINK THEY ARE
EFFICIENT BUT REMEMBER THEY ARE WORKING FOR THE OWNERS AND THAT IS THE TR=
UTH
IN REAL LIFE.
Should Mr. Best, not have conducted an opinion poll on the sale befo=
re
taking the decision? Did he forget that since he was away these staf=
fs
dedicated their lives in ensuring the existence and independence of
the paper? Did he not foresee the consequences?
WHY AN OPINION POLL IT IS NOT A CORPERATION IT IS OWN BY HIM AND HE HAVE =
THE
RIGHT TO GIVE IT AWAY FOR FREE TO ANYONE HE WISHESES.
YES THE STAFF DEDICATED THEIR LIVES BUT REMEMBER FOR WHO? YOU SHOULD ASK
YOUR SELF THAT QUESTION. IS IT FOR Mr. BEST OF FOR THEIR OWN LIVING?
These and other issues are the gist of the matter but not to put the=
blame to the new management for whatever change they deem necessary.=
THANKS NOT MUCH TIME BUT I WILL GET BACK TO YOU ON THE REST OF YOUR TOPIC=
=2E
BRO YUS
On the issue of progressive Gambians and intellectuals,it is high ti=
me
for our intellectuals to prove their efficiency by contributing
positively and progressively to emancipate the Gambians from
selfishness and greed for wealth with their families. It is very sad=
that throughtout the whole period of my higher education in the
Gambia,no Gambian intellectual taught me, it is thanks to the
foreigners who are laying all the foundation. Why not progressive
Gambians and intellectuals think of doing something productive for t=
he
Gambian population by either doing some projects back home that coul=
d
contribute to the development of intellect. Can we not learn from
Nigerian intellectuals fighting tooth and nail to ensure the surviva=
l
of their nation in good or in bad times?
We should try and use this opportunity to unify Gambians all over th=
e
world through this net rather than spreading hatred,insults and
disunity in the eyes of the world. Let us educate one another on
matters that are of interest to all and help those who are not in a
position.
Let us debate issues of national importance,then try to find out the=
problem and the solutions rather than entertaining abusive language
for selfish interest or recognition.
I wish to continue and elaborate more on this subject but due to lac=
k
of time I leave at this until next time.
I hope I am not hurting anyone. Your comments are welcome.
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:17:25 PDT
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Note: the open letter/article below was first published in the Daily
Observer, last thursday June 17. It is my understanding that Observer's
newly-appointed Editorial Adviser Ngaing Thomas, has since responded to my
comments. For a balnced coverage of opinion, it will be great if Mr.
Thomas's rejoinder is posted on the L for public consumption. Could somebody
on the L in possession of the said article, please do so?
Dear Amadou Samba,
by Cherno Baba Jallow
in Detroit, USA.
Solemn promise by your new Daily Observer Company management never to
interfere with the the editorial independence of the Observer newspaper
should be taken with a pinch of salt. It lacks contour and reality. Barely a
week after your management came into office, Observer's News Editor Demba A.
Jawo, one of The Gambia's most principled, objective journalists, was given
the sack. You've not given any reasons why Jawo was fired. Hiding behind a
veneer of managerial poetic justice, your managing director Sariang Ceesay,
bereft of specificity, simply said the Daily Observer was undergoing
"restructuring."
So: Jawo had to be weeded out. Official policy seems to indicate that Jawo's
unceremonious dismissal was the consequence of corporate infirmity. But
reality points otherwise. Jawo's sacking was a cynical departure, on your
part, from realism surrounding your much-vaunted promise to keep Observer's
editorial independence intact.
By sacking Jawo for no genuine reasons, but apparently for his acerbic
opinions on the wrong policies of the APRC government and its lackeys,
you've committed grave injustice to press freedom. Worse, you've presented
us with the horrifying spectre of the imminence of draconian measures to
whittle Observer's editorial independence and drag it into Stygian depths of
unchartered self-censorship.
Observer's future now rests on the bridle and saddle of managerial
authoritarianism. Obscurantism. And determinism. Jawo has gone;Baba Galleh
Jallow, too. In a span of one week, both the news editor and editor-in-chief
respectively, saw their pivotal careers at the Observer quashed and sullied.
Who's next? Your editorial board is now in disarray. Denied the collective
wisdom and experience of these two hardworking editors and columnists, your
newspaper is destined to experience a monumental depletion of skills,
talents and editorial leadership.
Perhaps, you need a serious reminder that the Observer under Kenneth Y. Best
enjoyed a crescendo of journalistic credibility. From a modest beginning on
Election Day in 1992 to the last day you acquired full ownership of the
Daily Observer Company, the Observer continued to be an independent,
indispensable voice in the vanguard of good governance and social change in
The Gambia.
The Observer augmented reading habits for a greater number of Gambians. It
successfully chronicled the triumphs and failures, dilemmas and aspirations,
new-fangled ideas and outmoded shibboleths, of our society. Best made the
Observer champion the cause of democracy and free speech, set the pace for
change, crusade against corruption, groom fledgling ideas, later gushing
into the eddies of rational public opinion. Observer's success under Best
was the height of untrammeled exchange of ideas and adroit productivity, of
honest-thinking Gambians.
Are you ready to break that tradition? Is it in your business interest, and,
ethical values and beliefs, to see the Observer wallow into stunted
journalistic growth? Metamorphose into reticence in the full view of
unchecked authoritarianism? Governmental improprieties? Societal
abrasiveness? You would think that because you command the will and wallet
over the survival of the Daily Observer Company as a business entity, the
Observer has now become your own private hacienda, subject to your whims and
caprices, not to the dictates of unfettered ideas and opinions.
Think again. The Observer, said Best in his last words before deportation,
"is no longer my property, it is the property of the Gambian people." Best
knew the Observer, a paper he had come to live with through thick and thin
in both Liberia and The Gambia, had grown larger than he could ever have
fathomed. The Observer had developed an innate tendency for invincibility
and indispensability.
Understandably, you're no Kenneth Best. But you can still learn from Best on
the mechanics of newspaper operation. His journalistic creed was thus:report
the facts without fear or favour;create a dialogue between people and
people, government and people.
The need for that in our country has never been greater, now. Our nation is
undergoing traumatic political times. We came out of military rule none the
wiser;tension and divisiveness continue to plague our political system.
Flagrant human rights abuses abound. Government continues to be bigger, and
out of sync with the miseries and concerns of the common man. It continues
to be overtly sensitive and averse to dissent, thus stifling creativity and
profundity of free political thinking, indispensable to the viability and
survival of our society.
And the need for uninhibited flow of information becomes ever more
undiminished, given the intricacies, subterfuges and intemperance of the
consequences of the actions of our political leadership. Our new crop of
leaders, displaying varying degrees of legerdemain and unaccountability, has
kept us uninformed and misinformed on matters of governance.
Unenligthened leadership has not only frustrated the national collective to
appraise the actions of our government, but has also churned out a
bumper-crop of phantom policies and promises, aggravating rather than
lessening, the coarsening of the affairs of governance.
Where a government fails or refuses to be a ligthening rod for its citizens
or acts despotically against them, then it becomes the sacred duty of a free
press to provide voice to the voiceless, strength to the downtrodden,
information to the uninformed.
In the face of governmental dictatorship, a free press becomes the last
bastion of hope - for the protection of freedoms and liberties of a helpless
citizenry, for the exposure and censure of the recalcitrance and despotism
of a brutish leadership, for the marshalling of ideas and opinions on
societal realities.
I conceptualize all this for your encompassing understanding to rise above
any hackneyed proclivities to blend partisan politics with objective
journalism. The two do not mix;they're at variance. Which is why you should
draw a fine line between your patronage with the APRC regime, and, the
conscience and conscientiousness inherent with the proprietorship of a free,
independent newspaper like the Observer.
If the conscience of good journalism will not appeal to you, atleast
commercial profiteering will. Your buy-out of the Daily Observer Company is
a business venture, and like every other business venture, you're motivated
to maximize profits and stay in business. Of course, over the years, you
have displayed considerable enterprise and flair. You're a shrewd and
successful businessman, making great strides in entrepreneurial innovation.
Such should be the central planks of your Mission Statement as the new
publisher of the Observer: rejigging Observer's managerial inefficiencies,
revamping its sagging finances, rewarding its hardworking yet frustrated,
personnel, and rekindling its journalistic integrity. Here lies the line of
demarcation.
Editorial matters should be out of your purview. You're no journalist in the
first place;so isn't your managing director. Therefore, any undue meddling
into Observer's editorial independence will be counter-productive and
inimical to press freedom. Jawo's sacking represents your nascent intrusion
into the sacredness of Observer's editorial integrity. It's a bad start for
your management.
The collapse of the Observer will certainly be a great loss to Gambians, but
it won't be the end of history. It will leave a vacuum to be filled by
honest-thinking, principled-minded Gambians. Best saw the absence of a daily
newspaper in The Gambia as a vacuum and he filled it. History continues....
In the meantime, we keep our eyes firmly fixed on Observer's shaky future.
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Circle of light is Africa's Net
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By BBC News Online Science Editor Dr David
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Africa will soon be surrounded by a ring of laser light, as
a new undersea, fibre-optic cable is constructed. The
cable will transform high-speed communications with the
continent.
Experts have said that it will plug Africa into the
high-speed Internet world and could herald an African
renaissance.
The optic-fibre cable is long enough to circle the Earth
and will be laid by robotic submarines. The project will
cost $1.6 billion and aims to be completed in 2002.
Link to the wired world
"The system will fully integrate the African continent into
the global broadband telecommunications network,"
says Steve Fassoulis, chairman of the Africa One
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The optic cable will be
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second. It will also be
self-healing, able to repair
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It will have two dozen
"landing points", where the
cable comes ashore.
Countries with no coastline
will be connected to it by
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microwave or satellite links.
The data cable will provide Africa with a
telecommunications "backbone" that will connect the
most isolated continent to the rest of the world.
Billion dollar savings
"The telecommunications sector in Africa is developing
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competition throughout Africa are creating a robust
demand for new services, especially the Internet."
The Africa One network is expected to save countries
hundreds of millions of dollars a year in communication
costs.
According to Joseph Ceva, president of Africa One, the
system will boost trade and investment in Africa.
The optical fibre will be built by Lucent Technologies of
the US and Global Crossing Ltd will lay it on the sea
floor.
Continental co-operation
The concept of circling Africa with a fibre optic cable was
first proposed in 1993 at a meeting of African
telecommunications ministers. Thirty African countries
are now a part of the project.
Experts believe that Africa cannot afford to be without a
high capacity communications connection to the rest of
the world. Currently only South Africa is well connected.
World-wide voice traffic is increasing at 13 per cent a
year, but data traffic is increasing at an even faster
rate.
Over the past five years, Internet traffic has increased by
86 per cent a year.
Optical fibre is the most efficient way of relaying data,
so
the laying of optical cable has increased dramatically. In
1997, there was 30 million kilometres of optic-fibre cable
world-wide. By the end of 2001 it is expected to be 45
million km.
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Asalaamu alaikum,
Alhamdulillah wasalaatou wasalaamu ala Nabiyyina Muhammad. Here is a =
continuation of the series on khusoo' (humility in prayer by Shaickh =
al-Munajjid. For your info I listened to a recording of a lecture by the =
Shaickh last week and one of the points of benefit I picked up from it =
is that the Shaick said one of the pious predecessors used to repeat a =
lot 'Alhamdulillah, Astaghfirullah, Alhamdulillah, Astaghfirullah, =
Alhamdulillah, Astaghfirullah.............
Why? Because the slave is always in some kind of Allah's bounty which =
make it necessary to thank Him or a situation which calls for His =
forgiveness.
The Shaickh wrote:
Knowing the advantages of khushoo' in salaah
These include:
- The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "There =
is no Muslim man who, when the time for a prescribed prayer comes, he =
does wudoo' properly, has the proper attitude of khushoo', and bows =
properly, but it will be an expiation for all his previous sins, so long =
as they were not major sins (kabeerah). And this is the case for life" =
(Reported by Muslim, 1/206, no. 7/4/2)=20
- The reward recorded is in proportion to the degree of khushoo', as the =
Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "A slave may =
pray and have nothing recorded for it except a tenth of it, or a ninth, =
or an eighth, or a seventh, or a sixth, or a fifth, or a quarter, or a =
third, or a half." (Reported by Imaam Ahmad; Saheeh al-Jaami', 1626).=20
- Only the parts of his prayer where he focused and concentrated =
properly will be of any avail to him. It was reported that Ibn 'Abbaas =
(may Allaah be pleased with him) said: "You will only have from your =
prayer that which you focused on."
Sins will be forgiven if you concentrate properly and have full =
khushoo', as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) =
said: "When a slave stands and prays, all his sins are brought and =
placed on his head and shoulders. Every time he bows or prostrates, some =
of them fall from him." (Reported by al-Bayhaqi in al-Sunan al-Kubraa, =
3/10; see also Saheeh al-Jaami'). Al-Manaawi said: "What is meant is =
that every time a pillar (essential part) of the prayer is completed, =
part of his sins fall from him, until when he finishes his prayer, all =
his sins will be removed. This is in a prayer where all the conditions =
are met and the essential parts are complete. What we understand from =
the words "slave" and "stands" is that he is standing before the King of =
Kings [Allaah] in the position of a humble slave." (Reported by =
al-Bayhaqi in al-Sunan al-Kubraa, 3/10; see also Saheeh al-Jaami').=20
- The one who prays with khushoo' will feel lighter when he finishes his =
prayer, as if his burdens have been lifted from him. He will feel at =
ease and refreshed, so that he will wish he had not stopped praying, =
because it is such a source of joy and comfort for him in this world. He =
will keep feeling that he is in a constricting prison until he starts to =
pray again; he will find comfort in prayer instead of wanting just to =
get it over and done with. Those who love prayer say: we pray and find =
comfort in our prayer, just as their leader, example and Prophet (peace =
and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, "O Bilaal, let us find =
comfort in prayer." He did not say "Let us get it over and done with."
- The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, "My joy =
has been made in prayer." So whoever finds his joy in prayer, how can he =
bear to look for joy anywhere else, or to keep away from it?
(Al-Waabil al-Sayib, 37).
Striving to offer du'aa' at the appropriate times during the prayer, =
especially in sujood
There is no doubt that talking to Allaah, humbling oneself before Him, =
asking things from Him and earnestly seeking His help, all help to =
strengthen the slave's ties to his Lord and increase his khushoo'. =
Du'aa' is an act of worship, and we are commanded to make du'aa'. Allaah =
says (interpretation of the meaning): ". call upon Him in humility and =
in secret." [al-An'aam 6:63]. The Prophet (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be upon him) said: "Whoever does not call on Allaah, Allaah will =
be angry with him." (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, Kitaab al-Da'waat, 1/426; =
classed as hasan in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi, 2686).
It was reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon =
him) used to make du'aa' at specific places in the prayer, i.e., in =
sujood, between the two prostrations and after the Tashahhud. The =
greatest of these is in sujood, because the Prophet (peace and =
blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, "The closest that the slave can =
be to his Lord is when he is prostrating, so increase your du'aa' [at =
that time]." (Reported by Muslim, Kitaab al-Salaah, Baab maa yuqaalu =
fi'l-rukoo' wa'l-sujood. No. 215). And he said: ". As for sujood, strive =
hard to make du'aa' in it, for it is bound to be answered for you." =
(Reported by Muslim, Kitaab al-Salaah, Baab al-Nahy 'an qiraa'at =
al-Qur'aan fi'l rukoo' wa'l-sujood, no. 207).
One of the du'aa's which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be =
upon him) used to recite in his sujood was: "Allaahumma'ghfir li dhanbi =
diqqahu wa jillahu wa awwalahu wa aakhirahu wa 'alaaniyatahu wa sirrahu =
(O Allaah, forgive me my sins, the minor and the major, the first and =
the last, the open and the hidden)." (Reported by Muslim, Kitaab =
al-Salaah, Baab ma yuqaalu fi'l-rukoo' wa'l-sujood, no. 216). He also =
used to say, "Allaahumma'ghfir li maa asrartu wa maa a'lantu (O Allaah, =
forgive me what I have done in secret and done openly)." (Reported by =
al-Nisaa'i, al-Mujtabaa, 2/569; Saheeh al-Jaami', 1067).
We have already described some of the du'aa's that he used to recite =
between the two sajdahs. (See section 11).
One of the things that he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) =
used to recite after the Tashahhud is what we learn from the hadeeth: =
"When any one of you finishes the Tashahhud, let him seek refuge with =
Allaah from four things, from the punishment of Hell, from the =
punishment of the grave, from the trials (fitnah) of life and death, and =
from the evil of the Dajjal ('Antichrist')." He used to say,=20
"Allaahumma innee a'oodhu bika min sharri maa 'amiltu wa min sharri maa =
lam a'mal (O Allaah, I seek refuge with You from the evil of what I have =
done and the evil of what I have not done)."
"Allaahumma haasibni hisaaban yaseeran (O Allaah, make my accounting =
easy)."=20
He taught Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq (may Allaah be pleased with him) to say, =
"Allaahumma innee zalamtu nafsi zulman katheeran, wa la yaghfir =
al-dhunooba illa anta, faghfir li maghfiratan min 'indaka warhamni =
innaka anta al-Ghafoor al-Raheem (O Allaah, I have wronged myself very =
much, and no one can forgive sin but You. Grant me forgiveness from You =
and have mercy on me, for You are the All-Forgiving, Most Merciful)."
He heard a man saying in his Tashahhud: "Allaahumma inne as'aluka yaa =
Allaah al-Ahad al-Samad alladhi lam yalid wa lam yoolad wa lam yakum =
lahu kufuwan ahad an taghfir li dhunoobi innaka anta'l-Ghafoor al-Raheem =
(O Allaah, I ask You O Allaah, the One, the Self-Sufficient Master, Who =
begets not neither is begotten, and there is none like unto Him, to =
forgive me my sins, for You are the All-Forgiving, Most Merciful)." He =
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to his companions: "He =
has been forgiven, he has been forgiven."
He heard another man saying, "Allaahumma innee as'aluka bi-anna =
laka'l-hamd, laa ilaaha ill anta wahdaka laa shareeka lak al-Mannaan yaa =
badee' al-samawaati wa'l-ard, yaa dhaa'l-jalaali wa'l-ikraam, ya hayyu =
yaa qayyoom, innee as'aluka al-jannah wa a'oodhu bika min al-naar (O =
Allaah, I ask You as all praise is due to You, there is no god but You =
Alone, with no partner or associate, the Bestower, O Originator of the =
heavens and earth, O Possessor of Glory and Honour, O Ever-Living, O =
Self-Sustaining, I ask You for Paradise and I seek refuge with You from =
Hell)." The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to =
his companions: "Do you know by what did he ask Allaah?" They said, =
"Allaah and His Messenger know best." He said, "By the One in Whose hand =
is my soul, he asked Allaah by His greatest Name (ismuhu'l-a'zam) which, =
when He is called by it, He responds, and if He is asked by it, He =
gives."
The last thing he would say between the Tashahhud and the Tasleem was: =
"Allaahumma'aghfir li maa qaddamtu wa ma akhkhartu wa maa asrartu wa maa =
a'lantu wa maa asraftu wa maa anta a'lam bihi minni anta'l-muqaddim wa =
anta'l-mu'akhkhir, laa ilaaha illa anta (O Allaah, forgive me what I =
have done in the past, and what I will do in the future, and what I have =
concealed, and what I have done openly, and what I have exceeded in, =
whatever You know about more than I. You are the Bringer-Forward, and =
You are the Delayer, there is no god except You)."=20
(These du'aa's and others, along with their isnaads, are to be found in =
Sifat al-Salaah by al-'Allaamah al-Albaani, p.163, 11th edn.)
Memorizing du'aa's like these will solve the problem that some people =
have of remaining silent behind the imaam when they have finished the =
Tashahhud because they do not know what they should say.
Adhkaar to be recited after prayer
These also help to strengthen khushoo' in the heart and reinforce the =
blessings and benefits of the prayer.
Without a doubt, one of the best ways of preserving and protecting a =
good action is to follow it up with another. So the one who thinks about =
the adhkaar that come after the prayer will find that they begin with =
seeking forgiveness three times, as if the worshipper is seeking =
forgiveness from his Lord for any shortcomings that may have occurred in =
his prayer or his khushoo'. It is also important to pay attention to =
naafil (supererogatory) prayers, because they make up for anything =
lacking in the fard (obligatory) prayers, including any failure with =
regard to khushoo'.
Having discussed things that help us to have khushoo', we now move on to =
a discussion of
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Warding off distractions and things that adversely affect khushoo'
Removing anything that may distract the worshipper
Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: " 'Aa'ishah had a decorated, =
colourful curtain which she used to cover the side of her house. The =
Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to her, 'Take =
it away from me, because its decorations keep distracting me when I =
pray.'" (Reported by al-Bukhaari, Fath al-Baari, 10/391).
Al-Qaasim reported that 'Aa'ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) had a =
cloth with decorations on it, which she used to cover a small sunken =
alcove (used for sleeping or storage). The Prophet (peace and blessings =
of Allaah be upon him) used to pray facing it, and he said, 'Take it =
away from me, because its decorations keep distracting me when I pray.' =
So she took it away and made pillows out of it." (Reported by Muslim in =
his Saheeh, 3/1668).
Another indication of this is the fact that when the Prophet (peace and =
blessings of Allaah be upon him) entered the Ka'bah to pray in it, he =
saw two ram's horns. When he had prayed, he told 'Uthmaan al-Hajabi, "I =
forgot to tell you to cover the horns, because there should not be =
anything in the House to distract the worshipper." (Reported by Abu =
Dawood, 2030; Saheeh al-Jaami', 2504).=20
This also includes avoiding praying in places where people pass through, =
or where there is a lot of noise and voices of people talking, or where =
they are engaging in conversations, arguments etc., or where there are =
visual distractions.
One should also avoid praying in places that are very hot or very cold, =
if possible. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) =
told us to delay praying Zuhr in summer until the hottest part of the =
day was over. Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: =
"Praying when it is intensely hot prevents a person from having the =
proper khushoo' and presence of mind, and he does his worship =
reluctantly, so the Prophet wisely told them to delay praying until the =
heat had lessened somewhat, so that they could pray with presence of =
mind and thus achieve the purpose of prayer, i.e., having khushoo' and =
turning to Allaah." (Al-Waabil al-Sayib, Daar al-Bayaan edn., p.22)
Not praying in a garment that has decorations, writing, bright colours =
or pictures that will distract the worshipper
'Aa'ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: "The Prophet (peace =
and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood up to pray wearing a =
checkered shirt, and he looked at the patterns in it. When he had =
finished his prayer, he said, "Take this shirt to Abu Jaham ibn =
Hudhayfah and bring me an anbajaani (a garment with no decorations or =
checks), because it distracted me when I was praying." According to =
another report: "These checks distracted me." According to another =
report: "He had a checkered shirt, which used to distract him whilst he =
was praying." (Reports in Saheeh Muslim, no. 556, part 3/391).
It is better not to pray in a garment that has pictures on it, and we =
should be especially careful to avoid garments with pictures of animate =
beings, like many garments that are widely available nowadays.
Not praying when there is food prepared that one wants to eat
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) =
said: "Do not pray when there is food prepared." (Reported by Muslim, =
no. 560).
If food has been prepared and served, or if it is offered, a person =
should eat first, because he will not be able to concentrate properly =
and have khushoo' if he leaves it and gets up to pray when he is wanting =
to eat. He should not even hasten to finish eating, because the Prophet =
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "If the dinner is =
served and the time for prayer comes, eat dinner before praying Salaat =
al-Maghrib, and do not rush to finish your meal." According to another =
report: "If dinner has been put out and the iqaamah has been given for =
prayer, eat dinner first and do not rush to finish it." (Agreed upon. =
Al-Bukhaari, Kitaab al-Aadhan, Baab idhaa hadara al-ta'aamu wa uqeemat =
al-salaah; Muslim, no. 557-559).
Not praying when one needs to answer the call of nature
No doubt one of the things that can prevent proper khushoo' is praying =
when one needs to go to the washroom. The Prophet (peace and blessings =
of Allaah be upon him) forbade praying when one is suppressing the urge =
to urinate or defecate. (Reported by Ibn Maajah in his Sunan, no. 617; =
Saheeh al-Jaami', no. 6832).
If anyone is in this position, he should first go to the bathroom and =
answer the call of nature, even if he misses whatever he misses of the =
congregational prayer, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be upon him) said: "If any one of you needs to go to the toilet, =
and the prayer has begun, he should go to the toilet first." (Reported =
by Abu Dawood, no. 88; Saheeh al-Jaami', no. 299)
If this happens to a person whilst he is praying, he should stop =
praying, go and answer the call of nature, purify himself then pray, =
because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, =
"There is no prayer when there is food prepared or if one is suppressing =
the urge to expel waste matter." (Saheeh Muslim, no. 560). Without a =
doubt, this trying to suppress the urge takes away khushoo'. This ruling =
also applies to suppressing the urge to pass wind.
Not praying when one feels sleepy
Anas ibn Maalik said, "The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be upon him) said: "If any one of you feels sleepy when he is =
praying, he should sleep until he [is rested enough to] know what he is =
saying," i.e., he should take a nap until he no longer feels drowsy. =
(Reported by al-Bukhaari, no. 210).
This may happen when one is praying qiyaam al-layl, at the time when =
prayers are answered, and a person may pray against himself without =
realizing it. This hadeeth also includes fard prayers, when a person is =
confident that he will still have enough time to pray after taking a =
nap. (Fath al-Baari, Sharh Kitaab al-Wudoo', Baab al-wudoo' min =
al-nawm).=20
Not praying behind someone who is talking (or sleeping)
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade this; =
he said: "Do not pray behind one who is sleeping or one who is talking." =
(Reported by Abu Dawood, no. 694; Saheeh al-Jaami', no. 375. He said, a =
hasan hadeeth).
- because one who is talking will distract the worshipper with his talk, =
and one who is sleeping may expose something that will distract the =
worshipper.
Al-Khattaabi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: "As for praying behind =
people who are talking, al-Shaafa'i and Ahmad ibn Hanbal considered this =
to be makrooh, because their talk distracts the worshipper from his =
prayer." ('Awn al-Ma'bood, 2/388).
As regards not praying behind someone who is sleeping, a number of =
scholars thought that the evidence for this was weak (including Abu =
Dawood in his Sunan, Kitaab al-Salaah, Tafree' Abwaab al-Witr, Baab =
al-Du'aa', and Ibn Hajar in Fath al-Baari, Sharh Baab al-Salaah khalf =
al-Naa'im, Kitaab al-Salaah).
Al-Bukhaari, may Allaah have mercy on him, quoted the hadeeth of =
'Aa'ishah in his Saheeh, Baab al-Salaah khalf al-Naa'im: "The Prophet =
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to pray whilst I was =
lying across from him on his bed." (Saheeh al-Bukhaari, Kitaab =
al-Salaah).
Mujaahid, Taawoos and Maalik thought it makrooh to pray facing someone =
who was sleeping, lest he expose something that would distract the =
worshipper from his prayer. (Fath al-Baari, ibid.)
If there is no risk of that happening, then it is not makrooh to pray =
behind someone who is sleeping. And Allaah knows best.
Not occupying oneself with smoothing the ground in front of one
Al-Bukhaari (may Allaah have mercy on him) reported from Mu'ayqeeb (may =
Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be upon him) said concerning a man's smoothing the ground when he =
prostrates, "If you have to do that, then do it only once." (Fath =
al-Baari, 3/79).
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) =
said: "Do not wipe (the ground) when you are praying, but if you have =
to, then do it only once." (Reported by Abu Dawood, no. 946; Saheeh =
al-Jaami', no. 7452).
The reason for this prohibition is so as to maintain khushoo', and so =
that a person will not make too many extra movements in prayer. If the =
place where one is going to prostrate needs to be smoothed, it is better =
to do this before starting to pray.
This also applies to wiping the forehead or nose when praying. The =
Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to prostrate =
in water and mud, which would leave traces on his forehead, but he did =
not bother to wipe it off every time he raised his head from sujood. It =
remained there because he was so deeply absorbed in his prayer and his =
khushoo' was so strong that he took not notice of it. The Prophet =
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Prayer is an =
occupation in itself." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, Fath al-Baari, 3/72). =
Ibn Abi Shaybah reported that Abu'l-Darda' said: "Even if I were to get =
red camels, I would not like to wipe the gravel from my forehead." =
'Ayaad said: "The salaf did not like to wipe their foreheads before they =
finished praying." (al-Fath, 3/79).=20
Just as a worshipper should avoid anything that will distract him from =
his prayer, by the same token he should avoid disturbing others. This =
includes:
Not disturbing others with one's recitation
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) =
said: "All of you are speaking to your Lord, so do not disturb one =
another, and do not raise your voices above one another when reciting" =
or he said, "in prayer." (Reported by Abu Dawood, 2/83; Saheeh =
al-Jaami', no. 752). According to another report, he said, "Do not =
compete with one another in raising your voices when reciting Qur'aan." =
(Reported by Imaam Ahmad, 2/36; Saheeh al-Jaami', 1951).
Not turning around during prayer=20
Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: "The Messenger of =
Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: 'Allaah =
continues to turn towards His slave whilst he is praying, so long as he =
does not turn away, but if he turns away, [Allaah] turns away from him." =
(Reported by Abu Dawood, no. 909; Saheeh Abi Dawood).
Turning away during prayer is of two types:
The turning away of the heart to something other than Allaah.
The turning away of the eyes.
Both of them are not allowed, and are detrimental to the reward for the =
prayer. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon =
him) was asked about turning away during prayer, and he said: "It is =
something that Shaytaan steals from a person's prayer." (Reported by =
al-Bukhaari, Kitaab al-Adhaan, Baab al-Iltifaat fi'l-Salaah).
The one who turns away with his heart or his eyes during prayer is like =
a man who is called by the ruler and made to stand before him, and when =
the ruler starts to address him, he turns away, looking to the right and =
the left, not listening to what the ruler is saying and not =
understanding a word of it, because his heart and mind are elsewhere. =
What does this man think the ruler will do to him?
The least that he deserves is that when he leaves the ruler, he is hated =
and no longer valued. One who prays like this is not equal to one who =
prays with the proper presence of mind, turning to Allaah in his prayer =
in such a way that he feels the greatness of the One before Whom he is =
standing, and he is filled with fear and submission; he feels too shy =
before his Lord to turn to anyone else or to turn away. The difference =
between their prayers is as Hassaan ibn 'Atiyah said: "The two men may =
be in one congregation, but the difference in virtue between them is as =
great as the distance between heaven and earth. One of them is turning =
with all his heart towards Allaah, whilst the other is negligent and =
forgetful." (Al-Waabil al-Sayib by Ibn al-Qayyim, Daar al-Bayaan, p. =
36).
As for turning away for a genuine reason, this is OK. Abu Dawood =
reported that Sahl ibn al-Hanzaliyyah said: "We started praying - Salaat =
al-Subh (Fajr) - and the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be upon him) was looking at the ravine." Abu Dawood said: "He had =
sent a horseman at night to guard the ravine." This is like when he =
carried Umaamah bint Abi'l-'Aas, and when he opened the door for =
'Aa'ishah, and when he came down from the minbar whilst praying in order =
to teach them, and when he stepped back during Salaat al-Kusoof (prayer =
at the time of an eclipse), and when he grabbed and strangled the =
Shaytaan when he wanted to interrupt his prayer. He also ordered that =
snakes and scorpions should be killed even during prayer, and a person =
who is praying should stop and even fight one who wants to pass in front =
of him whilst he is praying. He told women to clap during prayer [if =
they spot a mistake on the part of the imaam], and he used to wave or =
gesture to people who greeted him whilst he was praying. These and other =
actions may be done in cases of necessity, but if there is no necessity, =
then they are just idle gestures that cancel out khushoo' and are =
therefore not allowed during prayer. (Majmoo' al-Fataawa, 22/559).
Not raising one's gaze to the heavens
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade us to =
do this and issued a warning against it. He said: "When any one of you =
is praying, he should not lift his gaze to the heavens, lest he lose his =
sight." (Reported by Ahmad, 5/294; Saheeh al-Jaami', no. 762). According =
to another report, he said: "What is wrong with people who lift their =
gaze to the heavens whilst they are praying?" According to another =
report, he said: "that they raise their gaze when they make du'aa' =
during salaah?" (Reported by Muslim, no. 429). He spoke out strongly =
against it, to the extent that he said, "Let them stop it, or their =
eyesight will be taken away." (Reported by Imaam Ahmad, 5/258; Saheeh =
al-Jaami', 5574).
Not spitting in front of one when praying
This is incompatible with khushoo' and good manners before Allaah. The =
Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "When any one =
of you is praying, let him not spit in front of himself, for Allaah is =
before him when he prays." (Reported by al-Bukhaari in his Saheeh, no. =
397).
He also said: "When any one of you stands up to pray, he should not spit =
in front of himself, because he is talking to Allaah - may He be blessed =
and exalted - as long as he is in his prayer place; and he should not =
[spit] to his right, because there is an angel on his right. He should =
spit to his left, or beneath his feet, and bury it." (Reported by =
al-Bukhaari, al-Fath, no. 416, 1/512).
He said: "When one of you stands to pray, he is talking to his Lord, and =
his Lord is between him and the qiblah, so none of you should spit in =
the direction of his qiblah, but to his left or under his feet." =
(Reported by al-Bukhaari, al-Fath al-Baari, no. 417, 1/513).
If the mosque is furnished with carpets and so on, as is the norm =
nowadays, if a person needs to spit, he can take out a handkerchief or =
whatever, spit into it, and put it away again.
Trying not to yawn when praying
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) =
said: "If any one of you feels the urge to yawn during prayer, let him =
suppress it as much as he can, lest the Shaytaan enter." (Reported by =
Muslim, 4/2293). If the Shaytaan enters, he will be more able to disturb =
the worshipper's khushoo', in addition to laughing at him when he yawns.
Not putting one's hands on one's hips when praying
Abu Hurayrah said: "The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be upon him) forbade putting the hands on the hips during =
prayer." (Reported by Abu Dawood, no. 947; Saheeh al-Bukhaari, Kitaab =
al-'Aml fi'l-Salaah, Baab al-Hadhr fi'l-Salaah).=20
Ziyaad ibn Subayh al-Hanafi said: "I prayed beside Ibn 'Umar and I put =
my hand on my hip, but he struck my hand. When he had finished praying, =
he said, "This is crossing in prayer. The Messenger of Allaah (peace =
and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to forbid this." (Reported by =
Imaam Ahmad, 2/106 and others. Classed as saheeh by al-Haafiz al-'Iraaqi =
in Takhreej al-Ihyaa'. See al-Irwaa', 2/94).
It was reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon =
him) said that this posture is how the people of Hell rest; we seek =
refuge with Allaah from that. (Reported by al-Bayhaqi from Abu Hurayrah. =
Al-'Iraaqi said, its isnaad appears to be saheeh).
Not letting one's clothes hang down (sadl) during prayer
It was reported that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be upon him) forbade letting one's clothes hang down during =
prayer or for a man to cover his mouth. (Reported by Abu Dawood, no. =
643; Saheeh al-Jaami', no. 6883. He said, this is a hasan hadeeth). In =
'Awn al-Ma'bood (2/347) al-Khattaabi said: "Al-sadl: letting one's =
clothes hang down all the way to the ground." It was reported in Marqaat =
al-Mafaateeh (2/236): "Al-sadl is completely forbidden because it has to =
do with showing off, and in prayer it is even worse." The author of =
al-Nihaayah said: "It means wrapping oneself up in one's garment, =
leaving one's hands inside and bowing and prostrating in it." It was =
said that the Jews used to do this. It was also said that al-sadl meant =
putting the garment over one's head or shoulders, and letting its edges =
come down in front and over one's upper arms, so that a person will be =
preoccupied in taking care of it, which reduces khushoo', unlike =
garments that are tied up properly or buttoned, which do not distract =
the worshipper or affect his khushoo'. These kinds of clothes are still =
to be found nowadays in some parts of Africa and elsewhere, and in the =
way some Arabian cloaks are worn, which distract the worshipper and keep =
him busy adjusting them, retying them if they become loose and so on. =
This should be avoided.
The reason why it is forbidden to cover one's mouth was explained by the =
scholars as being because that prevents a person from reciting Qur'aan =
and doing sujood properly. (Marqaat al-Mafaateeh, 2/236).
Not resembling animals
Allaah has honoured the son of Adam and created him in the best way, so =
it is shameful for the son of Adam to resemble or imitate animals. We =
have been forbidden to resemble or imitate a number of postures or =
movements of animals when we pray, because that is contrary to khushoo' =
or because it is ugly and does not befit the worshipper who is praying. =
For example, it was reported that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and =
blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade three things in prayer: pecking =
like a crow, spreading one's forearms like a carnivore, or always =
praying in the same place like a camel keeping to its own territory. =
(Reported by Ahmad, 3/428). It was said that when a man always prays in =
the same place in the mosque, making it his own, it is like a camel =
keeping to its own territory. (Al-Fath al-Rabaani, 4/91). According to =
another report: "He forbade me to peck like a cockerel, to sit like a =
dog or to turn like a fox." (Reported by Imaam Ahmad, 2/311; Saheeh =
al-Targheeb, no. 556).=20
This is what we were able to mention about the means of attaining =
khushoo', so that we may strive for them, and about the things that =
detract from khushoo', so that we can avoid them.
There is another issue that has to do with khushoo', to which the =
scholars attached so much importance that it is worthy of mention here:
Allahumma salli wasallim alaa Nabiyyina Muhammad. Wasalaam.
Modou Mbye
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D4>Asalaamu =
alaikum,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D4>Alhamdulillah wasalaatou =
wasalaamu ala=20
Nabiyyina Muhammad. Here is a continuation of the series on khusoo' =
(humility in=20
prayer by Shaickh al-Munajjid. For your info I listened to a recording =
of a=20
lecture by the Shaickh last week and one of the points of benefit I =
picked up=20
from it is that the Shaick said one of the pious predecessors used to =
repeat a=20
lot 'Alhamdulillah, Astaghfirullah, Alhamdulillah, Astaghfirullah,=20
Alhamdulillah, Astaghfirullah.............</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D4>Why? Because the slave is =
always in=20
some kind of Allah's bounty which make it necessary to thank Him or a =
situation=20
which calls for His forgiveness.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D4>The Shaickh =
wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify><A name=3D"Knowing the advantages of khushoo' in =
salaah"><FONT=20
color=3D#800000 size=3D5><STRONG>Knowing the advantages of khushoo' in=20
salaah</STRONG></FONT></A><FONT size=3D4><U></P></U>
<P align=3Djustify>These include:</P>
<P align=3Djustify>- The Prophet <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) said: “There is no Muslim man who, when the time for a =
prescribed=20
prayer comes, he does wudoo’ properly, has the proper attitude of =
khushoo’, and=20
bows properly, but it will be an expiation for all his previous sins, so =
long as=20
they were not major sins (kabeerah). And this is the case for =
life”=20
</FONT>(Reported by Muslim, 1/206, no. 7/4/2)<FONT size=3D4> </P>
<P align=3Djustify>- The reward recorded is in proportion to the degree =
of=20
khushoo’, as the Prophet <IMG =
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif">=20
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “A slave may =
pray and have=20
nothing recorded for it except a tenth of it, or a ninth, or an eighth, =
or a=20
seventh, or a sixth, or a fifth, or a quarter, or a third, or a =
half.”=20
</FONT>(Reported by Imaam Ahmad; <I>Saheeh al-Jaami’</I>, =
1626).<FONT size=3D4>=20
</P>
<P align=3Djustify>- Only the parts of his prayer where he focused and=20
concentrated properly will be of any avail to him. It was reported that =
Ibn=20
‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “You will =
only have from your=20
prayer that which you focused on.”</P>
<P align=3Djustify>Sins will be forgiven if you concentrate properly and =
have full=20
khushoo’, as the Prophet <IMG =
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif">=20
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When a slave =
stands and=20
prays, all his sins are brought and placed on his head and shoulders. =
Every time=20
he bows or prostrates, some of them fall from him.” =
</FONT>(Reported by=20
al-Bayhaqi in <I>al-Sunan al-Kubraa</I>, 3/10; see also <I>Saheeh=20
al-Jaami’</I>)<FONT size=3D4>. Al-Manaawi said: “What is =
meant is that every time=20
a pillar (essential part) of the prayer is completed, part of his sins =
fall from=20
him, until when he finishes his prayer, all his sins will be removed. =
This is in=20
a prayer where all the conditions are met and the essential parts are =
complete.=20
What we understand from the words “slave” and =
“stands” is that he is standing=20
before the King of Kings [Allaah] in the position of a humble =
slave.”=20
</FONT>(Reported by al-Bayhaqi in <I>al-Sunan al-Kubraa</I>, 3/10; see =
also=20
<I>Saheeh al-Jaami’</I>)<FONT size=3D4>. </P>
<P align=3Djustify>- The one who prays with khushoo’ will feel =
lighter when he=20
finishes his prayer, as if his burdens have been lifted from him. He =
will feel=20
at ease and refreshed, so that he will wish he had not stopped praying, =
because=20
it is such a source of joy and comfort for him in this world. He will =
keep=20
feeling that he is in a constricting prison until he starts to pray =
again; he=20
will find comfort in prayer instead of wanting just to get it over and =
done=20
with. Those who love prayer say: we pray and find comfort in our prayer, =
just as=20
their leader, example and Prophet <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) said, “O Bilaal, let us find comfort in prayer.” =
He did not say “Let=20
us get it over and done with.”</P>
<P align=3Djustify>- The Prophet <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) said, “My joy has been made in prayer.” So whoever =
finds his joy in=20
prayer, how can he bear to look for joy anywhere else, or to keep away =
from=20
it?</P></FONT>
<P align=3Djustify>(<I>Al-Waabil al-Sayib</I>, 37).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<BLOCKQUOTE><U>
<P align=3Djustify>Striving to offer du’aa’ at the =
appropriate times during the=20
prayer, especially in sujood</P></U></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P align=3Djustify>There is no doubt that talking to Allaah, humbling =
oneself=20
before Him, asking things from Him and earnestly seeking His help, all =
help to=20
strengthen the slave’s ties to his Lord and increase his =
khushoo’. Du’aa’ is an=20
act of worship, and we are commanded to make du’aa’. Allaah =
says (interpretation=20
of the meaning): <I>“… call upon Him in humility and in =
secret…” [al-An’aam=20
6:63]</I>. The Prophet <IMG =
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif">=20
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever does =
not call on=20
Allaah, Allaah will be angry with him.” </FONT>(Reported by =
al-Tirmidhi,=20
<I>Kitaab al-Da’waat</I>, 1/426; classed as hasan in <I>Saheeh =
al-Tirmidhi</I>,=20
2686).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>It was reported that the Prophet <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) used to make du’aa’ at specific places in the =
prayer, i.e., in sujood,=20
between the two prostrations and after the Tashahhud. The greatest of =
these is=20
in sujood, because the Prophet <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) said, “The closest that the slave can be to his Lord is =
when he is=20
prostrating, so increase your du’aa’ [at that time].” =
</FONT>(Reported by=20
Muslim, <I>Kitaab al-Salaah, Baab maa yuqaalu fi’l-rukoo’ =
wa’l-sujood</I>. No.=20
215).<FONT size=3D4> And he said: “… As for sujood, strive =
hard to make du’aa’ in=20
it, for it is bound to be answered for you.” </FONT>(Reported by =
Muslim,=20
<I>Kitaab al-Salaah, Baab al-Nahy ‘an qiraa’at =
al-Qur’aan fi’l rukoo’=20
wa’l-sujood</I>, no. 207).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>One of the du’aa’s which the Prophet <IMG =
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) used to recite in his sujood was: =
“<I>Allaahumma’ghfir li dhanbi=20
diqqahu wa jillahu wa awwalahu wa aakhirahu wa ‘alaaniyatahu wa =
sirrahu</I> (O=20
Allaah, forgive me my sins, the minor and the major, the first and the =
last, the=20
open and the hidden).” </FONT>(Reported by Muslim, <I>Kitaab =
al-Salaah, Baab ma=20
yuqaalu fi’l-rukoo’ wa’l-sujood</I>, no. 216).<FONT =
size=3D4> He also used to say,=20
“<I>Allaahumma’ghfir li maa asrartu wa maa a’lantu</I> =
(O Allaah, forgive me=20
what I have done in secret and done openly).” </FONT>(Reported by =
al-Nisaa'i,=20
<I>al-Mujtabaa</I>, 2/569; <I>Saheeh al-Jaami’</I>, =
1067).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>We have already described some of the =
du’aa’s that he used to=20
recite between the two sajdahs. </FONT>(See section 11).</P><FONT =
size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>One of the things that he <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) used to recite after the Tashahhud is what we learn from the =
hadeeth:=20
“When any one of you finishes the Tashahhud, let him seek refuge =
with Allaah=20
from four things, from the punishment of Hell, from the punishment of =
the grave,=20
from the trials (fitnah) of life and death, and from the evil of the =
Dajjal=20
(‘Antichrist’).” He used to say, </P>
<P align=3Djustify>“<I>Allaahumma innee a’oodhu bika min =
sharri maa ‘amiltu wa min=20
sharri maa lam a’mal</I> (O Allaah, I seek refuge with You from =
the evil of what=20
I have done and the evil of what I have not done).”</P>
<P align=3Djustify>“<I>Allaahumma haasibni hisaaban yaseeran</I> =
(O Allaah, make=20
my accounting easy).” </P>
<P align=3Djustify>He taught Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq (may Allaah be pleased =
with him)=20
to say, “<I>Allaahumma innee zalamtu nafsi zulman katheeran, wa la =
yaghfir=20
al-dhunooba illa anta, faghfir li maghfiratan min ‘indaka warhamni =
innaka anta=20
al-Ghafoor al-Raheem</I> (O Allaah, I have wronged myself very much, and =
no one=20
can forgive sin but You. Grant me forgiveness from You and have mercy on =
me, for=20
You are the All-Forgiving, Most Merciful).”</P>
<P align=3Djustify>He heard a man saying in his Tashahhud: =
“<I>Allaahumma inne=20
as’aluka yaa Allaah al-Ahad al-Samad alladhi lam yalid wa lam =
yoolad wa lam=20
yakum lahu kufuwan ahad an taghfir li dhunoobi innaka =
anta’l-Ghafoor=20
al-Raheem</I> (O Allaah, I ask You O Allaah, the One, the =
Self-Sufficient=20
Master, Who begets not neither is begotten, and there is none like unto =
Him, to=20
forgive me my sins, for You are the All-Forgiving, Most =
Merciful).” He <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) said to his companions: “He has been forgiven, he has =
been=20
forgiven.”</P>
<P align=3Djustify>He heard another man saying, “<I>Allaahumma =
innee as’aluka=20
bi-anna laka’l-hamd, laa ilaaha ill anta wahdaka laa shareeka lak =
al-Mannaan yaa=20
badee’ al-samawaati wa’l-ard, yaa dhaa’l-jalaali =
wa’l-ikraam, ya hayyu yaa=20
qayyoom, innee as’aluka al-jannah wa a’oodhu bika min =
al-naar</I> (O Allaah, I=20
ask You as all praise is due to You, there is no god but You Alone, with =
no=20
partner or associate, the Bestower, O Originator of the heavens and =
earth, O=20
Possessor of Glory and Honour, O Ever-Living, O Self-Sustaining, I ask =
You for=20
Paradise and I seek refuge with You from Hell).” The Prophet <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) said to his companions: “Do you know by what did he ask =
Allaah?” They=20
said, “Allaah and His Messenger know best.” He said, =
“By the One in Whose hand=20
is my soul, he asked Allaah by His greatest Name =
(<I>ismuhu’l-a’zam</I>) which,=20
when He is called by it, He responds, and if He is asked by it, He =
gives.”</P>
<P align=3Djustify>The last thing he would say between the Tashahhud and =
the=20
Tasleem was: “<I>Allaahumma’aghfir li maa qaddamtu wa ma =
akhkhartu wa maa=20
asrartu wa maa a’lantu wa maa asraftu wa maa anta a’lam bihi =
minni=20
anta’l-muqaddim wa anta’l-mu’akhkhir, laa ilaaha illa =
anta</I> (O Allaah,=20
forgive me what I have done in the past, and what I will do in the =
future, and=20
what I have concealed, and what I have done openly, and what I have =
exceeded in,=20
whatever You know about more than I. You are the Bringer-Forward, and =
You are=20
the Delayer, there is no god except You).” </P></FONT>
<P align=3Djustify>(These du’aa’s and others, along with =
their isnaads, are to be=20
found in <I>Sifat al-Salaah</I> by al-‘Allaamah al-Albaani, p.163, =
11<SUP>th</SUP> edn.)</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>Memorizing du’aa’s like these will solve =
the problem that some=20
people have of remaining silent behind the imaam when they have finished =
the=20
Tashahhud because they do not know what they should say.</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><U>
<P align=3Djustify>Adhkaar to be recited after =
prayer</P></U></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P align=3Djustify>These also help to strengthen khushoo’ in the =
heart and=20
reinforce the blessings and benefits of the prayer.</P>
<P align=3Djustify>Without a doubt, one of the best ways of preserving =
and=20
protecting a good action is to follow it up with another. So the one who =
thinks=20
about the adhkaar that come after the prayer will find that they begin =
with=20
seeking forgiveness three times, as if the worshipper is seeking =
forgiveness=20
from his Lord for any shortcomings that may have occurred in his prayer =
or his=20
khushoo’. It is also important to pay attention to naafil =
(supererogatory)=20
prayers, because they make up for anything lacking in the fard =
(obligatory)=20
prayers, including any failure with regard to khushoo’.</P>
<P align=3Djustify>Having discussed things that help us to have =
khushoo’, we now=20
move on to a discussion of</P></FONT>
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<FONT size=3D4><U>
<P align=3Djustify></U></FONT><FONT size=3D5><FONT =
color=3D#800000><STRONG><A=20
name=3D"Warding off distractions and things that adversely affect =
khushoo">Warding=20
off distractions and things that adversely affect=20
khushoo</A>’</STRONG></FONT></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<P align=3Djustify></FONT><FONT size=3D4><U>Removing anything that may =
distract=20
the worshipper</P></BLOCKQUOTE></U>
<P align=3Djustify>Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “ =
‘Aa’ishah had a=20
decorated, colourful curtain which she used to cover the side of her =
house. The=20
Prophet <IMG src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and =
blessings=20
of Allaah be upon him) said to her, ‘Take it away from me, because =
its=20
decorations keep distracting me when I pray.’” =
</FONT>(Reported by al-Bukhaari,=20
<I>Fath al-Baari</I>, 10/391).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Qaasim reported that ‘Aa’ishah (may =
Allaah be pleased with=20
her) had a cloth with decorations on it, which she used to cover a small =
sunken=20
alcove (used for sleeping or storage). The Prophet <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) used to pray facing it, and he said, ‘Take it away from =
me, because=20
its decorations keep distracting me when I pray.’ So she took it =
away and made=20
pillows out of it.” </FONT>(Reported by Muslim in his =
<I>Saheeh</I>,=20
3/1668).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>Another indication of this is the fact that when the =
Prophet=20
<IMG src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and =
blessings of=20
Allaah be upon him) entered the Ka’bah to pray in it, he saw two =
ram’s horns.=20
When he had prayed, he told ‘Uthmaan al-Hajabi, “I forgot to =
tell you to cover=20
the horns, because there should not be anything in the House to distract =
the=20
worshipper.” </FONT>(Reported by Abu Dawood, 2030; <I>Saheeh =
al-Jaami’</I>,=20
2504). </P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>This also includes avoiding praying in places where =
people pass=20
through, or where there is a lot of noise and voices of people talking, =
or where=20
they are engaging in conversations, arguments etc., or where there are =
visual=20
distractions.</P>
<P align=3Djustify>One should also avoid praying in places that are very =
hot or=20
very cold, if possible. The Prophet <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) told us to delay praying Zuhr in summer until the hottest part =
of the=20
day was over. Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: =
“Praying when=20
it is intensely hot prevents a person from having the proper =
khushoo’ and=20
presence of mind, and he does his worship reluctantly, so the Prophet =
wisely=20
told them to delay praying until the heat had lessened somewhat, so that =
they=20
could pray with presence of mind and thus achieve the purpose of prayer, =
i.e.,=20
having khushoo’ and turning to Allaah.” </FONT>(<I>Al-Waabil =
al-Sayib</I>, Daar=20
al-Bayaan edn., p.22)</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><U><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>Not praying in a garment that has decorations, =
writing,=20
bright colours or pictures that will distract the=20
worshipper</P></FONT></U></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with =
her) said: “The Prophet=20
<IMG src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and =
blessings of=20
Allaah be upon him) stood up to pray wearing a checkered shirt, and he =
looked at=20
the patterns in it. When he had finished his prayer, he said, =
“Take this shirt=20
to Abu Jaham ibn Hudhayfah and bring me an <I>anbajaani</I> (a garment =
with no=20
decorations or checks), because it distracted me when I was =
praying.” According=20
to another report: “These checks distracted me.” According =
to another report:=20
“He had a checkered shirt, which used to distract him whilst he =
was praying.”=20
</FONT>(Reports in <I>Saheeh Muslim</I>, no. 556, part 3/391).</P><FONT =
size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>It is better not to pray in a garment that has =
pictures on it,=20
and we should be especially careful to avoid garments with pictures of =
animate=20
beings, like many garments that are widely available nowadays.</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><U>
<P align=3Djustify>Not praying when there is food prepared that one =
wants to=20
eat</P></U></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P align=3Djustify>The Messenger of Allaah <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) said: “Do not pray when there is food prepared.” =
</FONT>(Reported by=20
Muslim, no. 560).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>If food has been prepared and served, or if it is =
offered, a=20
person should eat first, because he will not be able to concentrate =
properly and=20
have khushoo’ if he leaves it and gets up to pray when he is =
wanting to eat. He=20
should not even hasten to finish eating, because the Prophet <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) said: “If the dinner is served and the time for prayer =
comes, eat=20
dinner before praying Salaat al-Maghrib, and do not rush to finish your =
meal.”=20
According to another report: “If dinner has been put out and the =
iqaamah has=20
been given for prayer, eat dinner first and do not rush to finish =
it.”=20
</FONT>(Agreed upon. Al-Bukhaari, <I>Kitaab al-Aadhan</I>, <I>Baab idhaa =
hadara</I> <I>al-ta’aamu wa uqeemat al-salaah</I>; Muslim, no.=20
557-559).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<BLOCKQUOTE><U>
<P align=3Djustify>Not praying when one needs to answer the call of=20
nature</P></BLOCKQUOTE></U>
<P align=3Djustify>No doubt one of the things that can prevent proper =
khushoo’ is=20
praying when one needs to go to the washroom. The Prophet <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) forbade praying when one is suppressing the urge to urinate or =
defecate. </FONT>(Reported by Ibn Maajah in his <I>Sunan</I>, no. 617; =
<I>Saheeh=20
al-Jaami’</I>, no. 6832).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>If anyone is in this position, he should first go to =
the=20
bathroom and answer the call of nature, even if he misses whatever he =
misses of=20
the congregational prayer, because the Prophet <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) said: “If any one of you needs to go to the toilet, and =
the prayer has=20
begun, he should go to the toilet first.” </FONT>(Reported by Abu =
Dawood, no.=20
88; <I>Saheeh al-Jaami’</I>, no. 299)</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>If this happens to a person whilst he is praying, he =
should=20
stop praying, go and answer the call of nature, purify himself then =
pray,=20
because the Prophet <IMG =
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace=20
and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “There is no prayer =
when there is=20
food prepared or if one is suppressing the urge to expel waste =
matter.”=20
</FONT>(<I>Saheeh Muslim</I>, no. 560).<FONT size=3D4> Without a doubt, =
this=20
trying to suppress the urge takes away khushoo’. This ruling also =
applies to=20
suppressing the urge to pass wind.</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><U>
<P align=3Djustify>Not praying when one feels =
sleepy</P></U></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P align=3Djustify>Anas ibn Maalik said, “The Messenger of Allaah =
<IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) said: “If any one of you feels sleepy when he is =
praying, he should=20
sleep until he [is rested enough to] know what he is saying,” =
i.e., he should=20
take a nap until he no longer feels drowsy. </FONT>(Reported by =
al-Bukhaari, no.=20
210).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>This may happen when one is praying qiyaam al-layl, =
at the time=20
when prayers are answered, and a person may pray against himself without =
realizing it. This hadeeth also includes fard prayers, when a person is=20
confident that he will still have enough time to pray after taking a =
nap.=20
</FONT>(<I>Fath al-Baari</I>, <I>Sharh Kitaab al-Wudoo’</I>, =
<I>Baab al-wudoo’=20
min al-nawm</I>). </P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><U><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>Not praying behind someone who is talking (or=20
sleeping)</P></FONT></U></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>The Prophet <IMG =
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif">=20
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade this; he said: =
“Do not pray=20
behind one who is sleeping or one who is talking.” =
</FONT>(Reported by Abu=20
Dawood, no. 694; <I>Saheeh al-Jaami’</I>, no. 375. He said, a =
hasan=20
hadeeth).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>- because one who is talking will distract the =
worshipper with=20
his talk, and one who is sleeping may expose something that will =
distract the=20
worshipper.</P>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Khattaabi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: =
“As for=20
praying behind people who are talking, al-Shaafa'i and Ahmad ibn Hanbal=20
considered this to be makrooh, because their talk distracts the =
worshipper from=20
his prayer.” </FONT>(‘<I>Awn al-Ma’bood</I>, =
2/388).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>As regards not praying behind someone who is =
sleeping, a number=20
of scholars thought that the evidence for this was weak =
</FONT>(including Abu=20
Dawood in his <I>Sunan, Kitaab al-Salaah, Tafree’ Abwaab al-Witr, =
Baab=20
al-Du’aa’</I>, and Ibn Hajar in <I>Fath al-Baari, Sharh Baab =
al-Salaah khalf=20
al-Naa’im, Kitaab al-Salaah</I>).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Bukhaari, may Allaah have mercy on him, quoted the =
hadeeth=20
of ‘Aa’ishah in his <I>Saheeh, Baab al-Salaah khalf =
al-Naa’im</I>: “The Prophet=20
<IMG src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and =
blessings of=20
Allaah be upon him) used to pray whilst I was lying across from him on =
his bed…”=20
</FONT>(<I>Saheeh al-Bukhaari, Kitaab al-Salaah</I>).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>Mujaahid, Taawoos and Maalik thought it makrooh to =
pray facing=20
someone who was sleeping, lest he expose something that would distract =
the=20
worshipper from his prayer. </FONT>(<I>Fath al-Baari</I>, =
ibid.)</P><FONT=20
size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>If there is no risk of that happening, then it is not =
makrooh=20
to pray behind someone who is sleeping. And Allaah knows best.</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><U>
<P align=3Djustify>Not occupying oneself with smoothing the ground in =
front of=20
one</P></U></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P align=3Djustify>Al-Bukhaari (may Allaah have mercy on him) reported =
from=20
Mu’ayqeeb (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) said concerning a man’s smoothing the ground when he =
prostrates, “If=20
you have to do that, then do it only once.” </FONT>(<I>Fath =
al-Baari</I>,=20
3/79).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>The Messenger of Allaah <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) said: “Do not wipe (the ground) when you are praying, =
but if you have=20
to, then do it only once.” </FONT>(Reported by Abu Dawood, no. =
946; <I>Saheeh=20
al-Jaami’</I>, no. 7452).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>The reason for this prohibition is so as to maintain =
khushoo’,=20
and so that a person will not make too many extra movements in prayer. =
If the=20
place where one is going to prostrate needs to be smoothed, it is better =
to do=20
this before starting to pray.</P>
<P align=3Djustify>This also applies to wiping the forehead or nose when =
praying.=20
The Prophet <IMG src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace =
and=20
blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to prostrate in water and mud, =
which would=20
leave traces on his forehead, but he did not bother to wipe it off every =
time he=20
raised his head from sujood. It remained there because he was so deeply =
absorbed=20
in his prayer and his khushoo’ was so strong that he took not =
notice of it. The=20
Prophet <IMG src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and =
blessings=20
of Allaah be upon him) said: “Prayer is an occupation in =
itself.”=20
</FONT>(Reported by al-Bukhaari, <I>Fath al-Baari</I>, 3/72).<FONT =
size=3D4> Ibn=20
Abi Shaybah reported that Abu’l-Darda’ said: “Even if =
I were to get red camels,=20
I would not like to wipe the gravel from my forehead.” =
‘Ayaad said: “The salaf=20
did not like to wipe their foreheads before they finished =
praying.”=20
</FONT>(<I>al-Fath</I>, 3/79).<FONT size=3D4> </P>
<P align=3Djustify>Just as a worshipper should avoid anything that will =
distract=20
him from his prayer, by the same token he should avoid disturbing =
others. This=20
includes:</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><U>
<P align=3Djustify>Not disturbing others with one’s=20
recitation</P></U></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P align=3Djustify>The Messenger of Allaah <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) said: “All of you are speaking to your Lord, so do not =
disturb one=20
another, and do not raise your voices above one another when =
reciting” or he=20
said, “in prayer.” </FONT>(Reported by Abu Dawood, 2/83; =
<I>Saheeh=20
al-Jaami’</I>, no. 752)<FONT size=3D4>. According to another =
report, he said, “Do=20
not compete with one another in raising your voices when reciting =
Qur’aan.”=20
</FONT>(Reported by Imaam Ahmad, 2/36; <I>Saheeh al-Jaami’</I>, =
1951).</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><U><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>Not turning around during prayer=20
</P></FONT></U></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: =
“The Messenger=20
of Allaah <IMG src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace =
and=20
blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Allaah continues to turn =
towards His=20
slave whilst he is praying, so long as he does not turn away, but if he =
turns=20
away, [Allaah] turns away from him.” </FONT>(Reported by Abu =
Dawood, no. 909;=20
<I>Saheeh Abi Dawood</I>).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>Turning away during prayer is of two types:</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<P align=3Djustify>The turning away of the heart to something other =
than=20
Allaah.</P>
<P align=3Djustify>The turning away of the eyes.</P></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P align=3Djustify>Both of them are not allowed, and are detrimental to =
the reward=20
for the prayer. The Messenger of Allaah <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) was asked about turning away during prayer, and he said: =
“It is=20
something that Shaytaan steals from a person’s prayer.” =
</FONT>(Reported by=20
al-Bukhaari, <I>Kitaab al-Adhaan, Baab al-Iltifaat =
fi’l-Salaah</I>).</P><FONT=20
size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>The one who turns away with his heart or his eyes =
during prayer=20
is like a man who is called by the ruler and made to stand before him, =
and when=20
the ruler starts to address him, he turns away, looking to the right and =
the=20
left, not listening to what the ruler is saying and not understanding a =
word of=20
it, because his heart and mind are elsewhere. What does this man think =
the ruler=20
will do to him?</P>
<P align=3Djustify>The least that he deserves is that when he leaves the =
ruler, he=20
is hated and no longer valued. One who prays like this is not equal to =
one who=20
prays with the proper presence of mind, turning to Allaah in his prayer =
in such=20
a way that he feels the greatness of the One before Whom he is standing, =
and he=20
is filled with fear and submission; he feels too shy before his Lord to =
turn to=20
anyone else or to turn away. The difference between their prayers is as =
Hassaan=20
ibn ‘Atiyah said: “The two men may be in one congregation, =
but the difference in=20
virtue between them is as great as the distance between heaven and =
earth. One of=20
them is turning with all his heart towards Allaah, whilst the other is =
negligent=20
and forgetful.” </FONT>(<I>Al-Waabil al-Sayib</I> by Ibn =
al-Qayyim, Daar=20
al-Bayaan, p. 36).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>As for turning away for a genuine reason, this is OK. =
Abu=20
Dawood reported that Sahl ibn al-Hanzaliyyah said: “We started =
praying – Salaat=20
al-Subh (Fajr) – and the Messenger of Allaah <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) was looking at the ravine.” Abu Dawood said: “He =
had sent a horseman=20
at night to guard the ravine.” This is like when he carried =
Umaamah bint=20
Abi’l-‘Aas, and when he opened the door for =
‘Aa’ishah, and when he came down=20
from the minbar whilst praying in order to teach them, and when he =
stepped back=20
during Salaat al-Kusoof (prayer at the time of an eclipse), and when he =
grabbed=20
and strangled the Shaytaan when he wanted to interrupt his prayer. He =
also=20
ordered that snakes and scorpions should be killed even during prayer, =
and a=20
person who is praying should stop and even fight one who wants to pass =
in front=20
of him whilst he is praying. He told women to clap during prayer [if =
they spot a=20
mistake on the part of the imaam], and he used to wave or gesture to =
people who=20
greeted him whilst he was praying. These and other actions may be done =
in cases=20
of necessity, but if there is no necessity, then they are just idle =
gestures=20
that cancel out khushoo’ and are therefore not allowed during =
prayer.=20
</FONT>(<I>Majmoo’ al-Fataawa</I>, 22/559).</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><U><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>Not raising one's gaze to the=20
heavens</P></FONT></U></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>The Prophet <IMG =
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif">=20
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade us to do this and =
issued a=20
warning against it. He said: “When any one of you is praying, he =
should not lift=20
his gaze to the heavens, lest he lose his sight.” </FONT>(Reported =
by Ahmad,=20
5/294; <I>Saheeh al-Jaami’</I>, no. 762).<FONT size=3D4> According =
to another=20
report, he said: “What is wrong with people who lift their gaze to =
the heavens=20
whilst they are praying?” According to another report, he said: =
“that they raise=20
their gaze when they make du’aa’ during salaah?” =
</FONT>(Reported by Muslim, no.=20
429)<FONT size=3D4>. He spoke out strongly against it, to the extent =
that he said,=20
“Let them stop it, or their eyesight will be taken away.” =
</FONT>(Reported by=20
Imaam Ahmad, 5/258; <I>Saheeh al-Jaami’</I>, 5574).</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><U><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>Not spitting in front of one when=20
praying</P></FONT></U></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>This is incompatible with khushoo’ and good =
manners before=20
Allaah. The Prophet <IMG =
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace=20
and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When any one of you is =
praying, let=20
him not spit in front of himself, for Allaah is before him when he =
prays.”=20
</FONT>(Reported by al-Bukhaari in his <I>Saheeh</I>, no. 397).</P><FONT =
size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>He also said: “When any one of you stands up to =
pray, he should=20
not spit in front of himself, because he is talking to Allaah – =
may He be=20
blessed and exalted – as long as he is in his prayer place; and he =
should not=20
[spit] to his right, because there is an angel on his right. He should =
spit to=20
his left, or beneath his feet, and bury it.” </FONT>(Reported by =
al-Bukhaari,=20
<I>al-Fath</I>, no. 416, 1/512).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>He said: “When one of you stands to pray, he is =
talking to his=20
Lord, and his Lord is between him and the qiblah, so none of you should =
spit in=20
the direction of his qiblah, but to his left or under his feet.”=20
</FONT>(Reported by al-Bukhaari, <I>al-Fath al-Baari</I>, no. 417,=20
1/513).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>If the mosque is furnished with carpets and so on, as =
is the=20
norm nowadays, if a person needs to spit, he can take out a handkerchief =
or=20
whatever, spit into it, and put it away again.</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><U>
<P align=3Djustify>Trying not to yawn when =
praying</P></U></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P align=3Djustify>The Messenger of Allaah <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) said: “If any one of you feels the urge to yawn during =
prayer, let him=20
suppress it as much as he can, lest the Shaytaan enter…” =
</FONT>(Reported by=20
Muslim, 4/2293)<FONT size=3D4>. If the Shaytaan enters, he will be more =
able to=20
disturb the worshipper’s khushoo’, in addition to laughing =
at him when he=20
yawns.</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><U>
<P align=3Djustify>Not putting one’s hands on one’s hips =
when=20
praying</P></U></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P align=3Djustify>Abu Hurayrah said: “The Messenger of Allaah =
<IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) forbade putting the hands on the hips during prayer.” =
</FONT>(Reported=20
by Abu Dawood, no. 947; <I>Saheeh al-Bukhaari</I>, <I>Kitaab =
al-‘Aml=20
fi’l-Salaah, Baab al-Hadhr fi’l-Salaah</I>)<FONT size=3D4>. =
</P>
<P align=3Djustify>Ziyaad ibn Subayh al-Hanafi said: “I prayed =
beside Ibn ‘Umar=20
and I put my hand on my hip, but he struck my hand. When he had finished =
praying, he said, “This is crossing in prayer. The Messenger of =
Allaah <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) used to forbid this.” </FONT>(Reported by Imaam Ahmad, =
2/106 and=20
others. Classed as saheeh by al-Haafiz al-‘Iraaqi in <I>Takhreej =
al-Ihyaa’</I>.=20
See <I>al-Irwaa’</I>, 2/94).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>It was reported that the Prophet <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) said that this posture is how the people of Hell rest; we seek =
refuge=20
with Allaah from that. </FONT>(Reported by al-Bayhaqi from Abu Hurayrah. =
Al-‘Iraaqi said, its isnaad appears to be saheeh).</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><U><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>Not letting one’s clothes hang down =
(<I>sadl</I>) during=20
prayer</P></FONT></U></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=3D4>
<P align=3Djustify>It was reported that the Messenger of Allaah <IMG=20
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif"> (peace and blessings of =
Allaah be=20
upon him) forbade letting one’s clothes hang down during prayer or =
for a man to=20
cover his mouth. </FONT>(Reported by Abu Dawood, no. 643; <I>Saheeh=20
al-Jaami’</I>, no. 6883. He said, this is a hasan hadeeth)<FONT =
size=3D4>. In=20
<I>‘Awn al-Ma’bood</I> (2/347) al-Khattaabi said: =
“<I>Al-sadl</I>: letting one's=20
clothes hang down all the way to the ground.” It was reported in =
<I>Marqaat=20
al-Mafaateeh</I> (2/236): “<I>Al-sadl</I> is completely forbidden =
because it has=20
to do with showing off, and in prayer it is even worse.” The =
author of=20
<I>al-Nihaayah</I> said: “It means wrapping oneself up in one's =
garment, leaving=20
one’s hands inside and bowing and prostrating in it.” It was =
said that the Jews=20
used to do this. It was also said that al-sadl meant putting the garment =
over=20
one’s head or shoulders, and letting its edges come down in front =
and over one’s=20
upper arms, so that a person will be preoccupied in taking care of it, =
which=20
reduces khushoo’, unlike garments that are tied up properly or =
buttoned, which=20
do not distract the worshipper or affect his khushoo’. These kinds =
of clothes=20
are still to be found nowadays in some parts of Africa and elsewhere, =
and in the=20
way some Arabian cloaks are worn, which distract the worshipper and keep =
him=20
busy adjusting them, retying them if they become loose and so on. This =
should be=20
avoided.</P>
<P align=3Djustify>The reason why it is forbidden to cover one’s =
mouth was=20
explained by the scholars as being because that prevents a person from =
reciting=20
Qur’aan and doing sujood properly. </FONT>(<I>Marqaat =
al-Mafaateeh</I>,=20
2/236).</P><FONT size=3D4>
<BLOCKQUOTE><U>
<P align=3Djustify>Not resembling animals</P></U></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P align=3Djustify>Allaah has honoured the son of Adam and created him =
in the best=20
way, so it is shameful for the son of Adam to resemble or imitate =
animals. We=20
have been forbidden to resemble or imitate a number of postures or =
movements of=20
animals when we pray, because that is contrary to khushoo’ or =
because it is ugly=20
and does not befit the worshipper who is praying. For example, it was =
reported=20
that the Messenger of Allaah <IMG =
src=3D"http://www.islam-qa.com/images/saws.gif">=20
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade three things in =
prayer:=20
pecking like a crow, spreading one’s forearms like a carnivore, or =
always=20
praying in the same place like a camel keeping to its own territory.=20
</FONT>(Reported by Ahmad, 3/428).<FONT size=3D4> It was said that when =
a man=20
always prays in the same place in the mosque, making it his own, it is =
like a=20
camel keeping to its own territory. </FONT>(<I>Al-Fath al-Rabaani</I>,=20
4/91)<FONT size=3D4>. According to another report: “He forbade me =
to peck like a=20
cockerel, to sit like a dog or to turn like a fox.” =
</FONT>(Reported by Imaam=20
Ahmad, 2/311; <I>Saheeh al-Targheeb</I>, no. 556)<FONT size=3D4>. </P>
<P align=3Djustify>This is what we were able to mention about the means =
of=20
attaining khushoo’, so that we may strive for them, and about the =
things that=20
detract from khushoo’, so that we can avoid them.</P>
<P align=3Djustify>There is another issue that has to do with =
khushoo’, to which=20
the scholars attached so much importance that it is worthy of mention=20
here:</P></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Allahumma salli wasallim alaa =
Nabiyyina=20
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Security concerns temporarily close six U.S. embassies
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June 25, 1999
Web posted at: 12:51 a.m. EST (0551 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The United States on Thursday closed six of its =
embassies for the next three days because of security concerns, the =
State Department said.=20
The embassies are to be shut down until Sunday as a precautionary =
measure.=20
"Because they are believed to have been under surveillance by suspicious =
individuals, we have taken the precaution of temporarily closing our =
embassies ..." said an official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.=20
The embassies are in Gambia, Togo, Madagascar, Liberia, Namibia and =
Senegal.=20
The department has received no specific threats targeted at American =
citizens overseas. But the spokesperson said they should continue to =
exercise caution while abroad.=20
The State Department noted that U.S. embassies in Africa and the rest of =
the world have been on a heightened alert status because of increased =
security concerns.=20
Most U.S. embassies in sub-Saharan Africa were ordered closed for two =
days in December, following U.S. action in Iraq.=20
The U.S. Embassy in Uganda also has closed on a few occasions because of =
security concerns since the nearly simultaneous bombings of the =
embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in August that left 224 people dead.=20
U.S. focuses on bin Laden=20
U.S. officials last week said they feared that suspected terrorist Osama =
bin Laden -- accused of masterminding the Africa bombings -- "may be in =
the final stages" of planning an attack against the United States.=20
The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity Wednesday, told CNN =
that current targets would most likely be somewhere in the Middle East =
or Africa.=20
However, they refused to rule out the possibility of an attack on U.S. =
soil -- including Washington, D.C.=20
The officials expressed specific concern about U.S. embassies in =
Mozambique, Senegal and Ghana -- all believed to have been under recent =
surveillance by possible terrorists.=20
Individuals possibly associated with bin Laden's organization are =
suspected of videotaping the outside of the embassy in Mozambique.=20
The officials believe planning for an attack is in the "advanced" or =
"final stages."=20
They said the information was a result of intercepted communication and =
other intelligence gathering methods they would not elaborate on.=20
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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<P>WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The United States on Thursday closed six of its =
embassies=20
for the next three days because of security concerns, the State =
Department said.=20
</P>
<P>The embassies are to be shut down until Sunday as a precautionary =
measure.=20
</P>
<P>"Because they are believed to have been under surveillance by =
suspicious=20
individuals, we have taken the precaution of temporarily closing our =
embassies=20
..." said an official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. </P>
<P>The embassies are in <A=20
href=3D"http://cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9906/25/africa.embassies/gambia.banju=
l.map.lg.jpg">Gambia</A>,=20
<A=20
href=3D"http://cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9906/25/africa.embassies/togo.lome.jp=
g">Togo</A>,=20
<A=20
href=3D"http://cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9906/25/africa.embassies/madagascar.j=
pg">Madagascar</A>,=20
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<A=20
href=3D"http://cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9906/25/africa.embassies/namibia.wind=
hoek.lg.jpg">Namibia</A>=20
and <A=20
href=3D"http://cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9906/25/africa.embassies/senegal.daka=
r.lg.jpg">Senegal</A>.=20
</P>
<P>The department has received no specific threats targeted at American =
citizens=20
overseas. But the spokesperson said they should continue to exercise =
caution=20
while abroad. </P>
<P>The State Department noted that U.S. embassies in Africa and the rest =
of the=20
world have been on a heightened alert status because of increased =
security=20
concerns. </P>
<P>Most U.S. embassies in sub-Saharan Africa were ordered closed for two =
days in=20
December, following U.S. action in Iraq. </P>
<P>The U.S. Embassy in Uganda also has closed on a few occasions because =
of=20
security concerns since the nearly simultaneous bombings of the =
embassies in=20
Kenya and Tanzania in August that left 224 people dead. </P>
<P><FONT face=3D"helvetica, arial, sans-serif">
<H3>U.S. focuses on bin Laden </H3></FONT>
<P></P>
<P>U.S. officials last week said they feared that suspected terrorist =
Osama bin=20
Laden -- accused of masterminding the Africa bombings -- "may be in the =
final=20
stages" of planning an attack against the United States. </P>
<P>The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity Wednesday, told CNN =
that=20
current targets would most likely be somewhere in the Middle East or =
Africa.=20
</P>
<P>However, they refused to rule out the possibility of an attack on =
U.S. soil=20
-- including Washington, D.C. </P>
<P>The officials expressed specific concern about U.S. embassies in =
Mozambique,=20
Senegal and Ghana -- all believed to have been under recent surveillance =
by=20
possible terrorists. </P>
<P>Individuals possibly associated with bin Laden's organization are =
suspected=20
of videotaping the outside of the embassy in Mozambique. </P>
<P>The officials believe planning for an attack is in the "advanced" or =
"final=20
stages." </P>
<P>They said the information was a result of intercepted communication =
and other=20
intelligence gathering methods they would not elaborate on. </P>
<P align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"=20
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Hey people, please read on. Where do our people go to get US visa's now? =
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Are we in and our people in a bind or what?
What do you say "Koto" Habib, on this move?
Peace
King Solomon
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Security concerns temporarily close six U.S. embassies
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June 25, 1999
Web posted at: 12:51 a.m. EST (0551 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The United States on Thursday closed six of its =
embassies for the next three days because of security concerns, the =
State Department said.=20
The embassies are to be shut down until Sunday as a precautionary =
measure.=20
"Because they are believed to have been under surveillance by suspicious =
individuals, we have taken the precaution of temporarily closing our =
embassies ..." said an official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.=20
The embassies are in Gambia, Togo, Madagascar, Liberia, Namibia and =
Senegal.=20
The department has received no specific threats targeted at American =
citizens overseas. But the spokesperson said they should continue to =
exercise caution while abroad.=20
The State Department noted that U.S. embassies in Africa and the rest of =
the world have been on a heightened alert status because of increased =
security concerns.=20
Most U.S. embassies in sub-Saharan Africa were ordered closed for two =
days in December, following U.S. action in Iraq.=20
The U.S. Embassy in Uganda also has closed on a few occasions because of =
security concerns since the nearly simultaneous bombings of the =
embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in August that left 224 people dead.=20
U.S. focuses on bin Laden=20
U.S. officials last week said they feared that suspected terrorist Osama =
bin Laden -- accused of masterminding the Africa bombings -- "may be in =
the final stages" of planning an attack against the United States.=20
The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity Wednesday, told CNN =
that current targets would most likely be somewhere in the Middle East =
or Africa.=20
However, they refused to rule out the possibility of an attack on U.S. =
soil -- including Washington, D.C.=20
The officials expressed specific concern about U.S. embassies in =
Mozambique, Senegal and Ghana -- all believed to have been under recent =
surveillance by possible terrorists.=20
Individuals possibly associated with bin Laden's organization are =
suspected of videotaping the outside of the embassy in Mozambique.=20
The officials believe planning for an attack is in the "advanced" or =
"final stages."=20
They said the information was a result of intercepted communication and =
other intelligence gathering methods they would not elaborate on.=20
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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<H1><EM><FONT size=3D2>Hey people, please read on. Where do our people =
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US visa's now? </FONT></EM></H1>
<H1><EM><FONT size=3D2>Are we in and our people in a bind or=20
what?</FONT></EM></H1>
<H1><EM><FONT size=3D2>What do you say "Koto" Habib, on this=20
move?</FONT></EM></H1>
<H1><EM><FONT size=3D2>Peace</FONT></EM></H1>
<H1><FONT size=3D2><EM>King Solomon</EM></FONT></H1>
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<P>The embassies are to be shut down until Sunday as a precautionary =
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<P>The department has received no specific threats targeted at American =
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<P>The State Department noted that U.S. embassies in Africa and the rest =
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security=20
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<P>Most U.S. embassies in sub-Saharan Africa were ordered closed for two =
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final=20
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<P>The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity Wednesday, told CNN =
that=20
current targets would most likely be somewhere in the Middle East or =
Africa.=20
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U.S. soil=20
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<P>Individuals possibly associated with bin Laden's organization are =
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"final=20
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Jaajef G-Lers,
For anyone in the UK as an overseas student or
thinking of coming to the UK to study, here is an
update on changes to the rules on overseas
students, regarding visa applications and work in
the UK.
The full text of the press release from the British
Council is available on the web at
http://www.britishcouncil.org/ecs/newsflash.htm
Scholarships
The Chevening programme currently provides
more than 2,200 new scholarships each year for
postgraduate study or research at UK higher
education institutions. This will increase in
1999/2000. Most Chevening Scholarships are for
one year Master's courses or equivalent, but some
are for shorter specialised courses lasting for 3-6
months. Candidates for British Chevening
Scholarships are selected by British Diplomatic
Missions overseas. The scholarships are
administered overseas and in the UK by the British
Council on behalf of the FCO.
Visa/entry rules
The Government is streamlining processes for
overseas students at four critical points:
* visas, in countries where a visa is required for
travel to the UK;
* leave to enter and remain, when students first
arrive in the UK;
* permission to work, for students who want to
combine study with work; and,
* better information for the student thinking of
coming to the UK.
Visas
In countries where visas for students have proved
difficult to administer easily, a new partnership is
being developed between visa offices and the
British Council's Education Counselling Service.
The British Council will give students guidance on
entry clearance requirements and will help them fill
in the visa forms, and where needed will act as
go-between with the visa office. The visa offices
are then able to process visas for bona fide
students faster, often without having to interview the
student. The partnership is now operating
successfully in India and is being launched in
China. The aim is to set up this partnership in
countries with significant education market
potential with the highest rate of student visa
application rejections.
The FCO has set a service target for visa offices,
to turn round straightforward applications within 24
hours, and less straightforward applications in no
more than 10 working days.
New guidance to all visa offices is being issued on
the key factors which cause problems for students
applying for visas.
Leave to enter and remain
Everyone who enters the UK needs leave to enter
and remain from Home Office immigration officers,
whether they come from visa or non-visa countries.
International students have experienced problems
when they are granted leave to enter and remain for
less then the length of their course, and need to
apply for extensions. The Home Office has made
two changes:
* Immigration officers have been instructed to give
leave to enter and remain for students for the full
length of their course, unless there are specific
reasons to give leave to enter and remain for a
shorter time.
* The Home Office has improved the turn round
time of applications from international students for
extensions to stay, to 2 weeks with the aim of faster
turnaround times soon.
Work
Stamps in students' passports will not change. The
formal and technical position is that students still
need permission to work, but that the Secretary of
State has given blanket permission for all affected
students to work, subject to the specified
conditions, so that individual permission is no
longer necessary.
The specified conditions remain unchanged:
- the student should not work for more than 20
hours a week in term time except where the
placement is a necessary part of their studies with
the agreement of the education institution
- the student should not engage in business, self
employment or the provision of services as a
professional sports person or entertainer
- the student should not pursue a career by filling a
permanent full time vacancy.
Students also no longer need to get permission
from the Overseas Labour Service to undertake
a work placement which is part of their course of
study or to do an internship placement.
The Home Office leaflet for students, Home office
and DfEE websites and other sources of
information for students, employers and institutions
are being revised to reflect this change. The new
Home office leaflet may not be available until July
or August.
Students can use Jobcentres to look for and apply
for jobs.
Jobcentres have been told that the Employment
Service no longer has any role in the issue of
student work permits.
Jobcentres have also been told that if employers
are reluctant to employ students without a work
permit they can issue an explanatory letter and
have been given the text of one.
Yeenduleen ak jaama
Tony
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Subject: FWD: LJ Silent on cport, talkative off it
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I find this coments from LJ very interesting. Could it be anger at the
media or fear of loosing an NBA title after coming so close to it?
Have a great weekend!
God speed!
Pa Mambuna
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Friday, Jun. 25
LJ silent on court, talkative off it
By Kevin Jackson
ESPN.com
NEW YORK -- Larry Johnson was back in the center of the storm again
Thursday
afternoon. Only this time, the controversial New York Knicks forward
didn't want to
leave.
That's right, the same man who has been fined a total of $35,000 for
failing to talk to the
media on three occasions during the 1999 playoffs was actually begging
for a little more
time to meet the press.
The horn had sounded at Madison Square Garden,
signifying the end of New York's half-hour mandatory
media session before Game 5 of the NBA Finals on
Friday night. Several Knicks officials immediately told
Johnson to wrap it up, and coach Jeff Van Gundy even
came over to say practice was about to start.
Perhaps they'd have been a little more forceful if they'd
known what Johnson was talking about.
Johnson insisted he needed a few more minutes to set
the record straight on the most controversial of topics --
slavery. So he decided to speak his peace before joining
his teammates on the Garden floor for some stretching
exercises.
In case you haven't heard, Johnson set off a firestorm of
controversy Tuesday, when he characterized the Knicks as a band of
"rebellious slaves."
Since then, Johnson has been chastised in the New York media for being
completely out
of touch with the slavery issue. NBC broadcaster Bill Walton even called
LJ "a disgrace to
basketball" after hearing the comments.
When the topic came up again Thursday, Johnson felt the need to explain
why a man with
an $84 million contract could possibly consider himself a "slave."
"Can I ask you all a question?" Johnson said, as the questioning began
to heat up. "Have I
lied?"
When he got no response, he continued, "Oh, OK, then I'm telling the
truth. But people
still say, 'Shhhh.'
"Listen, no one man can rise above the masses of the conditions of his
people.
Understand me," he said. "I am privileged and honored by the situation
that I am in. No
question. I have an excellent opportunity, and this is a beautiful
country, the best country.
But it's not holy, it's not righteous."
Then, Johnson turned a little political.
"We talk about what's going in Kosovo," he said. "We talk about Nigeria
and all that.
Well, what's going on here? Huh?
"Sure, we see the NBA, it's full of blacks, and the NFL and all that.
Great opportunities,
and we've made beautiful strides. But when I go back to my neighborhood
(in Dallas), I
see the same thing.
"I'm the only one who came out of my neighborhood. All of them are dead,
in jail, on
drugs, selling drugs. So am I supposed to be honored and happy and
whatever, just by
my success or by that brother's success? But I can't deny the fact of
what done happened
to us over years and years, and we're still at the bottom of the totem
pole. I can't turn my
head on that."
Still, Johnson's comments Thursday will surely turn more heads in New
York. Although
the Knicks are trying to extend their season and overcome a 3-1 deficit
against the Spurs
in this series, Johnson talked as much about social issues as he did
about basketball.
When he was asked about the play of Spurs point guard Avery Johnson in
Game 4, LJ
again shifted the topic to slavery.
"That's my man, Ave, because we're from the same plantation. We've both
got the
Johnson name," he said. "You tell Bill Walton that. We're from Mas'r
Johnson's
plantation."
Clearly, Johnson isn't concerned about how his explosive comments will
be received. He
spoke at length earlier in the week about how he doesn't care if people
"don't like me,"
calling it simply "mutual respect."
Johnson said he's played with a bit of a chip on his shoulder since his
college days,
ironically for a UNLV team nicknamed the Rebels.
"I don't care about myself. I've got a family that loves me, (and) a
wife, kids and mother
that love me. So I don't care what you guys write or say about me," he
said.
And that goes for Walton, who had these comments after Game 4: "Larry
Johnson, who
spent the last 48 hours railing against the world, what a pathetic
performance by this sad
human being. This is a disgrace to the game of basketball and to the
NBA. He played like
a disgrace tonight, he deserved it."
LJ's retort to Walton was just as harsh: "That's not the same Bill
Walton that was at
UCLA, smoking pot and (being a) hippie. If that's the way Bill feels,
that's the way Bill
feels," said Johnson, who went as far to suggest that Walton and other
white media
members should trace their ancestry for possible connections to slavery.
"But you know
what, I respect that. That way me and Bill know where each other
stands."
Although he knows he's standing knee-deep in controversy again, Johnson
is nonplussed.
He can already picture tomorrow's headlines.
"I'm going to be killed with my 'slave' quote, which is 100 percent
true," he said. "And
y'all know it."
And with that, Johnson hit the floor to actually work on some
basketball.
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I find this coments from LJ very interesting. Could it be anger at the
media or fear of loosing an NBA title after coming so close to it?
<p>Have a great weekend!
<p>God speed!
<br>Pa Mambuna
<br>
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<p><b><i>Friday, Jun. 25</i></b>
<br><b><font size=+1>LJ silent on court, talkative off it</font></b>
<p><i>By Kevin Jackson</i>
<br><i>ESPN.com</i>
<p>NEW YORK -- Larry Johnson was back in the center of the storm again
Thursday
<br>afternoon. Only this time, the controversial New York Knicks forward
didn't want to
<br>leave.
<p>That's right, the same man who has been fined a total of $35,000 for
failing to talk to the
<br>media on three occasions during the 1999 playoffs was actually begging
for a little more
<br>time to meet the press.
<p>The horn had sounded at Madison Square Garden,
<br>signifying the end of New York's half-hour mandatory
<br>media session before Game 5 of the NBA Finals on
<br>Friday night. Several Knicks officials immediately told
<br>Johnson to wrap it up, and coach Jeff Van Gundy even
<br>came over to say practice was about to start.
<p>Perhaps they'd have been a little more forceful if they'd
<br>known what Johnson was talking about.
<p>Johnson insisted he needed a few more minutes to set
<br>the record straight on the most controversial of topics --
<br>slavery. So he decided to speak his peace before joining
<br>his teammates on the Garden floor for some stretching
<br>exercises.
<p>In case you haven't heard, Johnson set off a firestorm of
<br>controversy Tuesday, when he characterized the Knicks as a band of
"rebellious slaves."
<p>Since then, Johnson has been chastised in the New York media for being
completely out
<br>of touch with the slavery issue. NBC broadcaster Bill Walton even called
LJ "a disgrace to
<br>basketball" after hearing the comments.
<p>When the topic came up again Thursday, Johnson felt the need to explain
why a man with
<br>an $84 million contract could possibly consider himself a "slave."
<p>"Can I ask you all a question?" Johnson said, as the questioning began
to heat up. "Have I
<br>lied?"
<p>When he got no response, he continued, "Oh, OK, then I'm telling the
truth. But people
<br>still say, 'Shhhh.'
<p>"Listen, no one man can rise above the masses of the conditions of his
people.
<br>Understand me," he said. "I am privileged and honored by the situation
that I am in. No
<br>question. I have an excellent opportunity, and this is a beautiful
country, the best country.
<br>But it's not holy, it's not righteous."
<p>Then, Johnson turned a little political.
<p>"We talk about what's going in Kosovo," he said. "We talk about Nigeria
and all that.
<br>Well, what's going on here? Huh?
<p>"Sure, we see the NBA, it's full of blacks, and the NFL and all that.
Great opportunities,
<br>and we've made beautiful strides. But when I go back to my neighborhood
(in Dallas), I
<br>see the same thing.
<p>"I'm the only one who came out of my neighborhood. All of them are dead,
in jail, on
<br>drugs, selling drugs. So am I supposed to be honored and happy and
whatever, just by
<br>my success or by that brother's success? But I can't deny the fact
of what done happened
<br>to us over years and years, and we're still at the bottom of the totem
pole. I can't turn my
<br>head on that."
<p>Still, Johnson's comments Thursday will surely turn more heads in New
York. Although
<br>the Knicks are trying to extend their season and overcome a 3-1 deficit
against the Spurs
<br>in this series, Johnson talked as much about social issues as he did
about basketball.
<p>When he was asked about the play of Spurs point guard Avery Johnson
in Game 4, LJ
<br>again shifted the topic to slavery.
<p>"That's my man, Ave, because we're from the same plantation. We've both
got the
<br>Johnson name," he said. "You tell Bill Walton that. We're from Mas'r
Johnson's
<br>plantation."
<p>Clearly, Johnson isn't concerned about how his explosive comments will
be received. He
<br>spoke at length earlier in the week about how he doesn't care if people
"don't like me,"
<br>calling it simply "mutual respect."
<p>Johnson said he's played with a bit of a chip on his shoulder since
his college days,
<br>ironically for a UNLV team nicknamed the Rebels.
<p>"I don't care about myself. I've got a family that loves me, (and) a
wife, kids and mother
<br>that love me. So I don't care what you guys write or say about me,"
he said.
<p>And that goes for Walton, who had these comments after Game 4: "Larry
Johnson, who
<br>spent the last 48 hours railing against the world, what a pathetic
performance by this sad
<br>human being. This is a disgrace to the game of basketball and to the
NBA. He played like
<br>a disgrace tonight, he deserved it."
<p>LJ's retort to Walton was just as harsh: "That's not the same Bill Walton
that was at
<br>UCLA, smoking pot and (being a) hippie. If that's the way Bill feels,
that's the way Bill
<br>feels," said Johnson, who went as far to suggest that Walton and other
white media
<br>members should trace their ancestry for possible connections to slavery.
"But you know
<br>what, I respect that. That way me and Bill know where each other stands."
<p>Although he knows he's standing knee-deep in controversy again, Johnson
is nonplussed.
<br>He can already picture tomorrow's headlines.
<p>"I'm going to be killed with my 'slave' quote, which is 100 percent
true," he said. "And
<br>y'all know it."
<p>And with that, Johnson hit the floor to actually work on some basketball.
<br>
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I gotthis from a friend here. I do not know how true it is, butI thought
I should share it with you all just incase.... You can contact your
local police dept. for verification if you want to. My friend said he
contacted the KY state dept. here and they confirm that it is happening
in some big cities.
God speed!
Pa Mambuna
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POLICE WARNING:
One of the officers who works with the D.A.R.E. program has passed along
the following warning and asked that it be shared with all drivers.
This
is an extremely serious matter:
If you are driving after dark and you see a car without its headlights
on......
DO NOT FLASH YOUR LIGHTS !!!!!!!!!
DO NOT BLOW YOUR HORN OR MAKE ANY SIGNALS TO THE DRIVER OF THE OTHER
CAR.
There is a new common gang initiation "game" going on on the streets:
The new member being initiated drives along without his headlights on
until
someone notices and flashes their headlights or makes some sort of other
action to signal the driver. The gang member is now required to chase
the car and shoot at or into the car in order to complete his or her
initiation requirements.
Make sure you share this information with your family, friends and
anyone
else you can reach. If you have any questions or information, please
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Please take this seriously. This is not a joke. Please pass this on to
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I gotthis from a friend here. I do not know how true it is, butI thought
I should share it with you all just incase.... You can contact your local
police dept. for verification if you want to. My friend said he contacted
the KY state dept. here and they confirm that it is happening in some big
cities.
<p>God speed!
<p>Pa Mambuna
<br><b></b> <b></b>
<p><b>*****************************************************************************</b>
<br><b>POLICE WARNING:</b>
<p>One of the officers who works with the D.A.R.E. program has passed along
<br>the following warning and asked that it be shared with all drivers.
This
<br>is an extremely serious matter:
<p>If you are driving after dark and you see a car without its headlights
<br>on......
<p>DO NOT FLASH YOUR LIGHTS !!!!!!!!!
<br>DO NOT BLOW YOUR HORN OR MAKE ANY SIGNALS TO THE DRIVER OF THE OTHER
CAR.
<p>There is a new common gang initiation "game" going on on the streets:
<br>The new member being initiated drives along without his headlights
on until
<br>someone notices and flashes their headlights or makes some sort of
other
<br>action to signal the driver. The gang member is now required
to chase
<br>the car and shoot at or into the car in order to complete his or her
<br>initiation requirements.
<p>Make sure you share this information with your family, friends and anyone
<br>else you can reach. If you have any questions or information,
please call
<br>your local police department.
<p>Please take this seriously. This is not a joke. Please pass
this on to
<br>everyone you know - e-mail and in person.
<br>It could save someone's life.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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In the name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.
MUHAMMAD (PBUH): THE MESSENGER AND PROPHET OF ALLAH.
Praise be to Allah, from Whom we seek help and forgiveness. We seek refuge
in Allah from the evils of our souls. He whom Allah guides cannot be lead
astray, and he whom Allah does not guide no one can guide him. I bear
witness that there is no god but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad
is His servant and apostle. O Allah! Send Your Mercy on Muhammad and on
the family of Muhammad, as You sent Your Mercy on Abraham and on the
family of Abraham, for You are the Most Praiseworthy, the Most Glorious. O
Allah! Send Your Blessings on Muhammad and the family of Muhammad, as You
sent your Blessings on Abraham and on the family of Abraham, for You are
the Most Praiseworthy, the Most Glorious.
Allah, the Exalted, says: " It is He (Allah) Who has sent His Apostle
(Muhammad) with Guidance and the Religion of Truth that he (Muhammad) may
proclaim it over all religion even though the Pagans may detest it."
Q61:9. "And verily, you (Muhammad) are on an exalted (standard of)
character." Q68:4.
Say (O Muhammad!): "O mankind! I am sent unto you all as the apostle of
Allah to Whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth: there is
no god but He: it is He that gives both life and death. So, believe in
Allah and His apostle the unlettered Prophet who believed in Allah and His
words: follow him so that you may be guided." Q7:158.
Prophet Muhammad (PUBH) was born on Rabbil Awwal 12, 571 A.D, for this
year, prophet's birthday is tomorrow, Saturday, June 26. His father was
Abdullah and his mother was Aminah. His father died before his birth and
his mother died when he was about six years old. He was in the care of
Abdul Muttalib, his grandfather, till 580 A.D. He lived with his uncle,
Abu Talib, after the death of his grandfather. He had no formal education
but used to accompany his uncle to neighboring cities on business trips
and in 594 A.D, he became the manager of Khadija's business. Khadija, a
widow, was so impressed about his honesty that she offered herself in
marriage in the year 595 A.D. Despite the fact that she was older, she
trusted, respected and surrendered all her wealth to prophet Muhammad
(PBUH). Everybody in Mekkah trusted and respected him as well. They used
to keep their valuables with him and they used to call him Al-Alim meaning
the trustworthy.
He used to retire into a cave at Mt. Hira for seclusion on a yearly basis
and he never participated in paganism that was rampant in Mekkah at that
time. In the month of Ramadan, 610 A.D, angel Gabriel revealed the first
revelation to him while in the cave. "Proclaim! (or Read!) in the name of
thy Lord and Cherisher Who created. Created man out of a (mere) clot of
congealed blood: Proclaim! And thy Lord is Most Bountiful. He Who taught
(the use of) the Pen. Taught man that which he knew not. " Q96:1-5. He
was scared and ran out of the cave to his house and ordered his wife to
cover him with cloth, but the revelation continued and that was the
beginning of his problem with his people who resisted change by all their
might.
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) left Mekkah for Medina in the year 622 A.D where
he established Islamic state. He died in 632 A.D in Medina, some Muslims,
including Umar, the second Caliph, could not believe that the great man
and prophet of Allah could die. Aisha (RA) narrated that: Abu Bakr came
out and 'Umar was addressing the people, and Abu Bakr told him to sit down
but 'Umar refused. Abu Bakr again told him to sit down but 'Umar again
refused. Then Abu Bakr recited the Tashah-hud (i.e. none has the right to
be worshipped but Allah and Muhammad is Allah's Apostle) and the people
attended to Abu Bakr and left 'Umar. Abu Bakr said, "Amma ba'du, whoever
amongst you worshipped Muhammad, then Muhammad is dead, but whoever
worshipped Allah, Allah is alive and will never die. Allah says:."
Muhammad is no more than an Apostle: many were the Apostles that passed
away before him. If he died or were slain will you then turn back on your
heels? If any did turn back on his heels not the least harm will he do to
Allah; but Allah (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve
him) with gratitude. " Q3:144. (The narrator added, "By Allah, it was as
if the people never knew that Allah had revealed this verse before till
Abu Bakr recited it and then whoever heard it, started reciting it.").
(Bukhar 2.333).
That is the summary of the life of the holy prophet of Allah, Muhammad
(PBUH). He was the last of prophets of Allah, "Muhammad is not the father
of any of your men but he is the Apostle of Allah and the Seal of the
Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things." Q33:40. He was the
spiritual leader, head of state, commander of army, chief judge,
businessman, husband, father, e.t.c. He demonstrated good examples in all
aspects of life, Allah says: "You have indeed in the Apostle of Allah a
beautiful pattern of (conduct) for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the
Final Day and who engages much in the praise of Allah." Q 33:21. We all
have read and witnessed how power intoxicates people. The holy prophet
Muhammad (PBUH) had power yet he was not intoxicated by it.
Sincere non-Muslims could not help but commend the good leadership of the
holy prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Micheal H. Hart, in his book "The 100 : A
Ranking of the most Influential Persons in History" ranked the holy
prophet Muhammad as the most influential in history. Jules Masserman, a
psychoanalyst wrote: " Perhaps the greatest leader of all times was
Muhammad, who combined all three functions (provided for the well-being of
the lead, provided a social organization in which people feel relatively
secure and provided his people with one set of beliefs). To a lesser
degree, Moses did the same.
The holy prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said: "The best talk (speech) is Allah's
Book (Qur'an), and the best way is the way of Muhammad, and the worst
matters are the heresies (those new things which are introduced into the
religion); and whatever you have been promised will surely come to pass,
and you cannot escape it. (Bukhari 9.382). There is no evidence that the
holy prophet and the four rightly guided Caliphs celebrated the birthday
of prophet Muhammad (PBUH). What we read is that the holy prophet used to
fast on his birthday. We should read more about the life of the prophet
and emulate him in our affairs rather than merry-making.
In Islam, there are only two festivals namely Idil-Fitr and Idil-Adha.
These are the festival at the end of Ramadan fasting and the festival in
the month of Dhul-Hajj that involves slaughtering of ram. These are not
mere festivals but have something to do with Islamic faith and whoever
participates in them, according to the dictates of prophet Muhammad
(PBUH), will be rewarded by Allah. Allah, the Exalted, says: "It is not
fitting for a Believer man or woman when a matter has been decided by
Allah and His Apostle to have any option about their decision: if anyone
disobeys Allah and His Apostle he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path."
Q33:36.
May the peace and blessings of Allah be on the holy prophet, Muhammad
(PBUH), his household, companions and followers of the right guidance till
the Day of Judgement. May Allah have mercy on Nigeria and us, may He let
us know good things and give us the strength to do them, may He let us
know evil and give us the strength to resist it.
Surajudeen.
--
Surajudeen Adewusi
King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minerals
Dhahran, KSA.
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Hello Lers,
I just received a phone call this evening that Tombong Saidy the Grts
Director is moved to the President's office as Permanent secretary.The new
Grts director from monday will be Marseil Thomasi who used to head Radio
Gambia.Meanwhile it is said that Tombong is not happy with his new
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Fina,
The fact that it is just a rumor and nothing you are sure of it might be ver=
y=20
premature to break the news on the L=97 That is just my thought.
However, I personally worked with Mr. Thomasi before and I can testify in to=20
any level that Mr. Tombong is far better than him. This is a guy who calls=20
employees in his office and threatens them that there are some scholarships=20
for the then Information and Broadcasting, but the fact that they cannot be=20
given at that moment for they have been there long and it is late to give=20
them out. Mr. Thomasi was the Director who antagonized all his seniors and=20
juniors within the department and ministry by telling stories. This guy was=20
the same one who was given some money to buy a car for the department when=20
the main office had no car, but one motor cycle and he bought it and was use=
d=20
by only his family.
Anyway, it might be too early, but if people are judged by their previous=20
acts, I do not think Marseille deserves any government position. And I do no=
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think Tombong will dislike the promotion just because he is loosing a=20
sensitive position. I have no doubt that he will continue to serve this=20
government to any level he is called for. I personally have my doubts on a=20
lot of things Tombong does, but to give a devil its due, I do not doubt his=20
loyalty to the regime and loosing him is going to be another blow to them.
Whiles we all wait for the news, I must tell you to keep on the good job you=20
are doing. Some of us enjoy your contributions.
Ousman Bojang.
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Hi Ousman,
Thank you for your contribution.Am afraid if Marseille is like what you
said,GRTS will again suffer from incompetence and government dominance.It's
true that Tombong was at the end doing very well,but the fact that he is an
ass licker will always be his problem.
Ousman,believe me that Tombong is removed and it is all confirmed now,trust
me am not another Ebrima ceesay I always get my facts right before writing.
FINA FOR FREE AND FAIR PRESS!
CHEERS!
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>Fina,
>The fact that it is just a rumor and nothing you are sure of it might be
>very
>premature to break the news on the L— That is just my thought.
>However, I personally worked with Mr. Thomasi before and I can testify in
>to
>any level that Mr. Tombong is far better than him. This is a guy who calls
>employees in his office and threatens them that there are some scholarships
>for the then Information and Broadcasting, but the fact that they cannot be
>given at that moment for they have been there long and it is late to give
>them out. Mr. Thomasi was the Director who antagonized all his seniors and
>juniors within the department and ministry by telling stories. This guy was
>the same one who was given some money to buy a car for the department when
>the main office had no car, but one motor cycle and he bought it and was
>used
>by only his family.
>Anyway, it might be too early, but if people are judged by their previous
>acts, I do not think Marseille deserves any government position. And I do
>not
>think Tombong will dislike the promotion just because he is loosing a
>sensitive position. I have no doubt that he will continue to serve this
>government to any level he is called for. I personally have my doubts on a
>lot of things Tombong does, but to give a devil its due, I do not doubt his
>loyalty to the regime and loosing him is going to be another blow to them.
>Whiles we all wait for the news, I must tell you to keep on the good job
>you
>are doing. Some of us enjoy your contributions.
>
>Ousman Bojang.
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Solomon,
According to the press release from the US Embassy in The Gambia, the
Embassy will be open on Monday June 28. Even though they are closed, they
would still give visa depending on the situation. The British High Commision
in The Gambia is also closed for the same reason and thesame period.
PEACE
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Globe Travel Agency has finally released to the public their documentary
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The Globe HAJJ video documentary is a back up of the job done during the
HAJJ in Saudi Arabia. It is a 3 hours documentary with all the 300 Globe
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In another development Globe Travel's first badge of UMRA Pax. will
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Fina:
I have read your postings in the past about TOMBONG and I f ind them very
distasteful ....You should really refrain from using inappropriate
language....gone are the days when "some" folks used this forum as a tool to
express their personal grudge towards one another....
Reading from your last posting doesn't refelect a "removal"....removing an
individual from a position is a dismissal and from what I gather from your
posting this is a transfer to a different job capacity ....
Moreover , you should not be jubilant about changes in another person's
life...
You are in a position yourself and who knows what could happen to you
tomorrow. The latter goes with this wollof proverb : KUNEKA SI TORLI HARREH
DOR REAH KUN JAMM """
and let's give each other a chance to build our country together....
Just a word of thought from a sister....no hard feelings :-)
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Sir Ous,
You are quite right that at this moment we can't do or say much until the
message is clarified. So let fold our hands and wait for an official
comformation of the rumour. Or could any one in ~~Gambia help to
authenticate this rumour. Or may be the concern man himself (TOMBONG) could
do us a favour by letting us know the truth.
Yes U 've worked with Thomasi, could be there is a sign of change in him now
since the mandinka says the water of last year is not the same water in the
well. What could be tolerated then cannot now be.
That's my personal observation.
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>Fina,
>The fact that it is just a rumor and nothing you are sure of it might be
>very
>premature to break the news on the L— That is just my thought.
>However, I personally worked with Mr. Thomasi before and I can testify in
>to
>any level that Mr. Tombong is far better than him. This is a guy who calls
>employees in his office and threatens them that there are some scholarships
>for the then Information and Broadcasting, but the fact that they cannot be
>given at that moment for they have been there long and it is late to give
>them out. Mr. Thomasi was the Director who antagonized all his seniors and
>juniors within the department and ministry by telling stories. This guy was
>the same one who was given some money to buy a car for the department when
>the main office had no car, but one motor cycle and he bought it and was
>used
>by only his family.
>Anyway, it might be too early, but if people are judged by their previous
>acts, I do not think Marseille deserves any government position. And I do
>not
>think Tombong will dislike the promotion just because he is loosing a
>sensitive position. I have no doubt that he will continue to serve this
>government to any level he is called for. I personally have my doubts on a
>lot of things Tombong does, but to give a devil its due, I do not doubt his
>loyalty to the regime and loosing him is going to be another blow to them.
>Whiles we all wait for the news, I must tell you to keep on the good job
>you
>are doing. Some of us enjoy your contributions.
>
>Ousman Bojang.
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Thanks Tombong for the update. Keep up the good work down there.
Peace,
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Fina ceesay,
In order to prove to you that no one is perfect, and that mistakes, surely,
are bound to happen, I have decided to call your attention to the fact that
your headline "Tombong Removed" is indeed misleading and inaccurate, as
already pointed out by one Yafatou.
When someone is "removed" from his or her job, it means/implies that the
person has been sacked, or dismissed.
Therefore, if Tombong is now the permanent Secretary in the Office of the
President, as reported by you, then what happened was/is that he, Mr Saidy,
has been "redeployed", or "transferred", to the President's Office, and not
"removed", as your headline insinuated/suggested.
Frankly speaking, Fina Ceesay, removal - in the context you used it -
means, or implies, sacking/dismissal.
Also as far as I know, "Marseille" is a big city in the South Of France
(laughs!). On a more serious note, Mr Thomasi (I also worked under him at
the Information department) spells his name in this way: "MARCEL", not
"Marseille".
He had worked, after he left the Information Department, as an Information
Officer at the ECOWAS Secretariat in Nigeria.
Fina, I thought it would be helpful, if I call your attention to these
mistakes/errors of yours. Anyway, do have a good weekend.
Ebrima Ceesay,
Birmingham, UK.
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>Hi Ousman,
>Thank you for your contribution.Am afraid if Marseille is like what you
>said,GRTS will again suffer from incompetence and government dominance.It's
>true that Tombong was at the end doing very well,but the fact that he is an
>ass licker will always be his problem.
>Ousman,believe me that Tombong is removed and it is all confirmed now,trust
>me am not another Ebrima ceesay I always get my facts right before writing.
>FINA FOR FREE AND FAIR PRESS!
>CHEERS!
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Ebrima,
"REMOVE" is defined inthe Websters Dictionary also as " To move (something)
from where it is; lift, push, transfer, or carry away from one place to
another.
Ousman Bojang
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Globe Travel,
That is a good job to have a documentary on the Hajj after all the hype that
went on. I hope the pilgrims and their family members will enjoy it. And
those who are planning to go on one or sending their parents or relatives
will come to realize that you had all the best of intentions serving your
customers to the utmost satisfaction.
May God grant you and all the pilgrims a meaningful post Hajj. And to those
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Hi folks,
This is to endorse the sentiment expressed below by Ya Fatou that language used
by Fina Ceesay in reacting to Tombong being "removed" was distasteful and
inappropriate. I hope that Fina realizes his/her mistake, and would consider
sending an apology to Tombong for calling him an "a..-licker."
To remind all of us again, please let's not be carried away by our anger or
bitterness toward someone while we compose postings to Gambia-L. The fact of
the matter is that you can't recall an email message once you hit that "Send"
button. And you cannot deny what you said either becuase all our postings are
archived and available to a global Web audience. For this reason, you should
be extra careful about what you send to the list, lest you make a fool of
yourself, or create negative impressions about you.
Have a great weekend, and best wishes in your endeavors.
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> Fina:
> I have read your postings in the past about TOMBONG and I f ind them very
> distasteful ....You should really refrain from using inappropriate
> language....gone are the days when "some" folks used this forum as a tool to
> express their personal grudge towards one another....
>
> *SNIP*
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> Just a word of thought from a sister....no hard feelings :-)
> Yafatou
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Folks,
Please allow me to change the subject from "Tombong Removed!!!!!!" to
the above, as the consesus is that its inappropriate and incorrect. Like
Katim I'd also like to urge every one to be careful on their choice of
language, since everybody now has access to our mail archives, you don't
only make a fool out of your self but to the entire list.
************Again this is another reminder for forks coming to Atlanta
next weekend, you can visit our website and get all the information
including directions to all the functions(Parties, Soccer and Picnic
sites): www.atlgambians.com
Thanks and have a good weekend!
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Hi Lers,
First i would like to say sorry to Tombong for refering to him as an a--
licker,sorry Bro.
Ya Fatou are you ok ? Did i jubilate because tombong is transfered to the
President's office.Next time you read my postings, read careful and try to
digest what i mean.If it was a secretary of state who was transfered,Tombong
would be the first person to write about it,don't you know.I didn't write
this because i hate him,i just think it is news worthy and that people
should know about it.
Am happy that eventhough removed is the wrong word,you guys were able to
understand what i meant.Ebrima ceesay and others thank you for the
rectification.Let us try to understand each other that is better than
unnecessary arguments.
PS-MY EDITORS, PLEASE CHECK IF THERE IS ANY MISTAKES.AM TOO LAZY TO DO THAT.
NO HARD FEELINGS.
Fina.
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>Fina:
>I have read your postings in the past about TOMBONG and I f ind them very
>distasteful ....You should really refrain from using inappropriate
>language....gone are the days when "some" folks used this forum as a tool
>to
>express their personal grudge towards one another....
>
>Reading from your last posting doesn't refelect a "removal"....removing an
>individual from a position is a dismissal and from what I gather from your
>posting this is a transfer to a different job capacity ....
>
>Moreover , you should not be jubilant about changes in another person's
>life...
>You are in a position yourself and who knows what could happen to you
>tomorrow. The latter goes with this wollof proverb : KUNEKA SI TORLI HARREH
>DOR REAH KUN JAMM """
>
>and let's give each other a chance to build our country together....
>
>Just a word of thought from a sister....no hard feelings :-)
>Yafatou
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Finnah:
As a closure of this topic I want to remind you that my posting was not an
arguement but a caution ..for you to refrain from personal attacks and using
inappropriate language ....
Yes...you did sound jubilant about the fact that he got MOVED from the GRTS...
If you recall your old postings about Tombong, they were always unpleasant...
Please check your archives...I have them and so the L .......
I don't want to dwell on this issue further....lets move on and let Tombong
live his life.....
Well.... if you choose to write back please don't bother others with this
topic...send it to me [log in to unmask]
No hard feelings :-)
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Hello,
I work for GRTS and have heard about Tombong's transfer, this is not
officially announced yet(Radio Kankang).Finnah and others hold your breath
for an official confirmation, besides this is more of a promotion to Tombong
( if indeed true )
I do know one thing that up to this day Tombong is still at the TV.
I'll like to quote from a popular wollof saying" in a gathering, watching is
the best part" let us watch!
HARONA
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>Folks,
>Please allow me to change the subject from "Tombong Removed!!!!!!" to
>the above, as the consesus is that its inappropriate and incorrect. Like
>Katim I'd also like to urge every one to be careful on their choice of
>language, since everybody now has access to our mail archives, you don't
>only make a fool out of your self but to the entire list.
>
>
>************Again this is another reminder for forks coming to Atlanta
>next weekend, you can visit our website and get all the information
>including directions to all the functions(Parties, Soccer and Picnic
>sites): www.atlgambians.com
>
>Thanks and have a good weekend!
>Baboucarr Sillah
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As Salaamu 'alaikum wa arhamtullahi
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Recently there was a discuission with follow ups on Islamic investement;
they are valuable proposals, which I would like to share with you -=20
May our efforts be a useful source of information for our Umma- may Allah=20
give us
barakah in the efforts....
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Acknowledgement for the redistribution:
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Jaffer Manek
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The mail is actually in response to an interesting discussion about the
stockmarket, in the frame of which, brother J. Manek brought forward his
comments/thoughts and proposals..
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It seems a consensus has been reached that the system of stockmarkets is
not
as benign and benevolent a vehicle of investment for small-savers as it is
made out to be.
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Secondly, it is undeniable that criticism per se is lame without an offer
of
possible solutions and alternatives. Thirdly, it appears we uphold the
maxim
that it is incumbent for every individual to improve his/her own position,
at all times, but in a positive way not only for himself/herself but also
for the community he/she lives in and the wider global community. I feel
this sentiment is not exclusive to Muslims but to people of other faiths
also.
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So now we should move on to address the central question " ... where small
investors could place their money in their absence." I am going to attempt
a
suggestion subject to adjustment, further consideration and further
fine-tuning.
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I have already put forward a provisional list of possible avenues of
investment for small savers. As a reminder, it is:
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1 - pay-off all credit cards, personal loans, hire-purchase loans, mortgage
=20
on housing.
2 - invest in boosting the education both temporal and spiritual of your
own
children
3 - pay-off debts of own business if applicable
4 - invest in own business expansion with paying for product innovation &
development, marketing, customer care, distribution/transport, staff
amenities, etc
5 - invest in personal development of self e.g. elocution to remove accent
in speaking, improve writing ability, improve personal appearance
6 - buy real estate to derive rental income, if necessary organise a team
where several people take an equal share and make clear provision to pay
the
one who puts in the effort, management etc in the democratic
decision-making
at the same time agree in writing a clear exit route at the outset for
anyone who needs to withdraw.
7 - inject funds to be a minority equity holder in a local small business
without dominating or threatening the entrepreneur. Agree in writing at the
=20
outset a clear exit route for any investor in the team who needs to leave.
8 - invest in the environment and social amenities e.g. schools, hospitals,
=20
water-wells, parks, gardens, plant trees, have the rubbish and weeds
cleared, deal with stray animals, hobbies for youngsters, etc as a healthy
and happy neighbourhood will rub-off on the small investor in the locality.
=20
I feel the pension, well before 65 years' age, can be the combination of
the
value of your residence, the sale of your business or dividends from your
ownership in your business, a stream of rental income and the pleasure of
living in a friendly neighbourhood full of amenities. Depending on the
stockmarket to produce monthly payments from the age of 65 cannot be such
an
attractive or reliable proposition.
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Someone queried whether the order in which the list above should operate. I
=20
suggest it is up to the individual to invest in the way most beneficial to
them in their particular circumstances. There could be a mixture of the
items in the list. Regarding the query about charity (zakat, khums, etc) it
=20
is assumed that the surplus is after all charitable dues. Regarding the
query about investing in real-estate, it is possible for fifty or hundred
or
five hundred small investors to come together to buy outright real estate
for cash and participate proportionately in the rental income after costs
and overheads.
=20
The small investor has got into the habit of assuming he/she must generate
a
% interest income or dividends on their small pot of money savings. This is
=20
a passive position. I suggest if the amount of savings is small (I do not
offer a definition of "small"), the small investor should instead be
proactive and take the initiative to bunch up with other like-minded small
investors and in that way the overall amount would be significant.
=20
That therefore means operating something akin to a bank or a co-operative
for holding a collection of small deposits. The exit route from the
grouping
for the small investor must be very clear and in writing from the outset to
=20
provide maximum facility to exit whenever the need or desire to do so
arises for fairness (emergency, alternative investment opportunity, travel,
=20
interruption of steady earnings, etc. ).
=20
Secondly, the small investor must desist from the conditioning/greed in
demanding the "market" level of return on their small savings.
=20
Such a grouping can then invest in ethical projects such as business
ventures, infra-structure, community projects, parks and amenities, etc.
Some noble examples in developing countries are before us:
=20
- A bank from Bangladesh offers unsecured small loans (up to =A3500 sterlin=
g)
=20
to women only for them to derive a living from arts, crafts, own
manufacture, small retail, etc. It has been successful in Bangladesh and
has
just opened a branch in East London where the Bangladesh community is
settled.
=20
- A Turkish company in Turkey that is owned with one share each for its
small investors. It is very successful in its backing of ethical commercial
=20
ventures although it is facing trying times from the vested interests who
are trying to find fault with it to close it down.
=20
If such successes can take place in developing countries beset with all
kinds of impediments and loaded systems, why not replicate them in the
western democratic countries where there is great freedom to create and
operate such organisation?
=20
So, whilst a small individual by himself/herself cannot be a significant
investor, a group of like-minded and harmonious small investors can be a
formidable force. However, a sincere and competent leadership is a
pre-requisite to keep the group together. Now, the crux of the matter is
how
many of such sincere and capable leaders exist? And, how many of such
sincere and capable leaders take the trouble to put themselves forward to
organise such groupings?
=20
I feel that is where this matter is stuck and we need to wait for a
wonderful "can-opener" to set free this "ginny" to try to achieve the
potential that we aspire to, an aim that is possible and that is in
everyone's hands. Perhaps there is insufficient personal development,
perhaps there is insufficient "Takwa" (=3D nobility of purpose?)
=20
Jaffer Manek, London, UK
=20
Discussion was lead in the froum of the:
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Islamic Banking and Finance Net Listserver
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Folks;
We've a bunch of hypocrites in this forum and is sometimes disheartening to
hear them talk about politics. I've been watching and reading e-mails from
bunch of cowards who thinks they know it all. Fool nobody but yourselves.
Personal attacks does nothing but belittling yourself.
One should be able to express your views clearly without been rude to others.
Who cares what one thinks of others. What goes round comes round.
Watch out.
BE
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Asalaamu alaikum G-Lers,
Alhamdulillah, Allahumma salli wasallim alaa Nabiyyina Muhammad.=20
The inspirational and ever cheerful elder of Gambia-L, Aunty Rashida has =
been kept away from us with her valuable inputs by eye problems, and I =
am please asking all to make du'aa for her speedy recovery. =
Alhamdulillah, wa Asalullahul adheem Rabbul Arshil Adheem an yashfeehaa, =
'We
ask Allah the Supreme, lord of the Magnificent Throne to cure her'.
Aunty Rashida wrote to me:
<<How are you doing and the studies there? =20
Insha'Allah all is well. It is surely the dua's of children like you =
that is=20
responsible for the improvement in my eyes. So PLEASE continue to keep =
me in=20
your dua's -- as I do you, and all my children, in mine.
I'm guessing that you picked up my message from Quantum's Homepage =
links. =20
The young folks at Quantum are MINE! Not only are they bringing =
technology=20
home to The Gambia, teaching and reaching out -- there is never a time =
I've=20
been to their offices that Salat is not stopped for by nearly every=20
individual there. I'm more proud of that fact than their other =
achievements.=20
Quantum's Muhammed Jah is one of my Gambian children -- and it was only =
while he was here with his wife, Isatou, that he told me of the changes =
to=20
Quantum Website since I last saw it. I had not been doing any reading =
for=20
more than two months.
Well that's about all for this time of the morning -- here its almost =
2:30=20
a.m. -- so I'm going to catch some rest before Fajr. =20
Thanks for your message. Insha'Allah we'll all see each other back in =
The=20
Gambia one day. Salaams, Aunty Rashida>>
The inspirational and ever cheerful elder of Gambia-L has been kept away =
from us with her valuable inputs by eye problems and I am asking all to =
make du'aa for her speedy recovery. Alhamdulillah, wa Asalullahul adheem =
Rabbul Arshil Adheem an yashfeehaa, 'We
ask Allah the Supreme, lord of the magnificent throne to cure her'.
Allahumma salli wasallim alaa Nabiyyina Muhammad. Wasalaam.
Modou Mbye
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elder of Gambia-L, Aunty Rashida has been kept away from us with her =
valuable=20
inputs by eye problems, and I am please asking all to make du'aa =
for her=20
speedy recovery. <STRONG>Alhamdulillah, wa Asalullahul adheem Rabbul =
Arshil=20
Adheem an yashfeehaa, 'We<BR>ask Allah the Supreme, lord of the =
Magnificent=20
Throne to cure her'.<BR></STRONG></DIV></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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me:</FONT></DIV>
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and the=20
studies there? <BR>Insha'Allah all is well. It is surely the =
dua's=20
of children like you that is <BR>responsible for the improvement in my=20
eyes. So PLEASE continue to keep me in <BR>your dua's -- as I do =
you, and=20
all my children, in mine.<BR><BR>I'm guessing that you picked up my =
message from=20
Quantum's Homepage links. <BR>The young folks at Quantum are =
MINE! =20
Not only are they bringing technology <BR>home to The Gambia, teaching =
and=20
reaching out -- there is never a time I've <BR>been to their offices =
that Salat=20
is not stopped for by nearly every <BR>individual there. I'm more =
proud of=20
that fact than their other achievements. <BR> Quantum's Muhammed =
Jah is one=20
of my Gambian children -- and it was only <BR>while he was here with his =
wife,=20
Isatou, that he told me of the changes to <BR>Quantum Website since I =
last saw=20
it. I had not been doing any reading for <BR>more than two=20
months.<BR><BR>Well that's about all for this time of the morning -- =
here its=20
almost 2:30 <BR>a.m. -- so I'm going to catch some rest before =
Fajr. =20
<BR><BR>Thanks for your message. Insha'Allah we'll all see each =
other back=20
in The <BR>Gambia one day. Salaams, Aunty =
Rashida>></FONT></DIV>
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ever=20
cheerful elder of Gambia-L has been kept away from us with her valuable=20
inputs by eye problems and I am asking all to make du'aa for her =
speedy=20
recovery. <STRONG></FONT><FONT size=3D4>Alhamdulillah, wa Asalullahul =
adheem=20
Rabbul Arshil Adheem an yashfeehaa, 'We<BR>ask Allah the Supreme, lord =
of the=20
magnificent throne to cure her'.<BR></FONT></STRONG></DIV></FONT>
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Hi folk,
what is this barrage of attacks towards Fina for. Who really gives a crap
as to what
heading or title she/he uses. Whether Tom... is removed/sacked/transfered
or whatever
does not really matter as a topic. He/she already explained the situation
in the content of the message. Are we going to attack everyone who happens
to use a title that the
majority thinks is inappropriate. Give us all break you "intellectuals",
and lets talk about
the issue at hand or whatever.
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Hi folks,
The appended posting is a perfect example of how NOT to do things on Gambia-L.
The person who sent this posting not only used an address that suggests little
about who he is, but also did not bother to sign his full name. Given the tone
of the posting, it would have been courteous, even nice, that he gave his full
name at the end of it.
I dug up the address from the Gambia-L subscriber list, and found that it is
that of one Ebrima Jarjue. For the benefit of all of us, I would suggest that
in the future we take the trouble to sign our postings with at least our name,
especially in the event we use cryptic e-mail addresses.
Thanks, and best wishes in your endeavors.
Katim
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> Date: Saturday, June 26, 1999 9:44 PM
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> Folks;
> We've a bunch of hypocrites in this forum and is sometimes disheartening to
> hear them talk about politics. I've been watching and reading e-mails from
> bunch of cowards who thinks they know it all. Fool nobody but yourselves.
> Personal attacks does nothing but belittling yourself.
> One should be able to express your views clearly without been rude to others.
> Who cares what one thinks of others. What goes round comes round.
> Watch out.
> BE
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Listen i think your sending this e-mail to the wrong address i dont know
any that you are talking about sorry!
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:47:24 -0400
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Hello Abdoulie Jallow,
Thank you for your response to the aboved caption.Your points are
noted and appreciated.You are the second person to give a similar
response on the issue of K.BEST failing to conduct an opinion poll,I
have responded to the other on this same issue and you may wish to
refer to it. As the saying goes TWO HEADS ARE BETTER THAN ONE, I
cannot but learn from your opinions and leave this issue for public
scrutinity.I hope we can turn on other matters of importance because I
am always constraint by time in getting into the net.I ackowledged
your points.Now to your second point.
Mr. Jallow, I wrote: on the issue of progressive Gambians and
intellectuals, it is high time for our intellectuals to prove their
efficiency by contributing positively and progressively to emancipate
the Gambians from selfishness and greed for wealth with their
families.
Mr. Jallow, regarding this particular issue I was very brief due to
lack of time but shall elaborate on these issues in length in the near
future.What I wanted to elaborate on here is the issue of self
sustenance by all progressive Gambians and intellectuals who should
help in one way or the other to come up with projects which are
independent of the Government. I seems to be out of time now but would
come back to this question again at another time.
Your points are noted,but remember if you want to eradicate poverty,
injustices and any other societal vice you have to cast your hope on
Allah who is guidance of mankind.Never fear victimization when you are
in a good cause.
Mr. Jallow, I never get you wrong for you are right in your
submissions but remember THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITHOUT A SOLUTION. Let
us all try to work hard wherever we are and focus our attention on the
most unpriviledged in society and seek for solutions than backing
down.
Thank you once again, though I don't know which Abdoulie Jallow I am
writing to.May Allah bestow abundance of wealth to all those down
there thinking of the underpriviledged back at home.
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Hello Bro Yus,
I wonder whether it is my brother Yusu or someone who knows me well
but all the same this demonstrate the might of the pen that is the
usefulness of education.
I read your response with particular interest and noted your points
according to your opinion however all I was trying to do was to
present my opinions for public scrutunity and thereafter gain
something from the opinions of others so that in the end the truth
shall always prevails doubts and falsehood would vanish.
Due to lack of time as I am just about to transcribe the closing
arguements of the prosecutor in the case the Prosecutor versus Alfred
Musema which is about to end however I would buy a small part of this
time to at least respond to some of your questions or querries.
On the first issue I said : I sometimes wonder what image are these
people portraying being countrymen. You asked: BE MORE SPECIFY ON THE
IMAGE YOU TRYING TO TALK ABOUT?
Bro Yus, the image portrayed I was trying to talk about concerns the
abusive language being used by some brothers in the L in response to
other peoples opinions.These abusive languages if you are a vivid
reader of G-L would have noticed.Are these abusive languages in the
NET portraying a good relationship between brothers fighting for the
common goal?It would have been in the interest of all Gambians to use
this net in order to unify distance and lost friends and relatives and
at least set out ways and means of helping those we know are less
fortunate or victims of societal injustices.Gambians as we know when
they are away from home they live like brothers and sisters.This ties
should continue wherever we are. Why use the most advance means of
communication castigating one another on the net just because you are
in a university or enjoying other live whereas your brothers and
sisters are suffering down home. Why not use this means to help other
brothers and sisters struggling for greener pastures but could not?
Why not use this net to encourage The GAmbians in the Diaspora to set
up a Charitable Organization whereby Gambians who are in position can
contribute in cash or in kind in other to set up a project for our
brothers and sisters down home. HE WHO SUFFERS KNOWS THE DEEP OF THE
PAIN.
The second issue: I wrote: The sale of the Daily Observer to Amadou
Samba,a Gambian is indeed a welcome idea but was the vendor taking
into account the implications behind the sale? and you remarked :I
THINK IT IS TOO EARLY TO SPECULATE, JUST BECAUSE CHANGES HAPPENING AND
NOT IN FAVOR OF SOME OF US DOES NOT MEAN THAT IS THE END OF THE GAME.
Bro Yus, this is a question I put across not a speculation. what
changes are not in favor of me I am not working with the Daily
Observer?I hope you are favored by these changes and you felt that I
am opposed to these changes, Bro not. As you may wish to know I am an
independent individual who innovates the ways and means of my living
and not casting my hope on any other individual or body for my
living,so an individuals changes or system changes does not affect my
ways and means of living.I am an independent minded person and not
dependant. MARK THAT POINT AND INQUIRE ABOUT MY LIVING.
You also remarked that: I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BLAME YOU WANT TO PUT
ON K BEST, LOOK BROTHERS LETS CALL A SPADE A SPADE. THE MAN IS A
BUSINESSMAN SO WHAT DO YOU EXPECT, IF A GOOD REWARD COMES IN ARE YOU
GOING TO TURN IT DOWN. THE WORD EFFICIENT STAFF IS NOT AN EASY THING
TO JUSTIFY, YOU AND I MAY THINK THEY ARE EFFICIENT BUT REMEMBER THEY
ARE WORKING FOR THE OWNERS AND THAT IS THE TRUTH IN REAL LIFE.
Bro Yus, the blame I want to put on K BEST are the outcomes of the
sale of the paper which follow the dismissal of some able and
independent minded-people who stood by the paper in good and in bad
times.The man is a businessman but he is not selling goods in his shop
but dealing with human beings, responsible human beings and therefore
cannot be disposed off as one wishes if one is a humanitarian.This is
to say K BEST has dissappointed staffs like DA JAWO, BABA GALLEH
JALLOW and others. These people cannot blame the new management but
the root cause,that is all I meant to point out.I wonder what good
reward you are talking about? one should not compromise one's
principle simply because of selfish ends. The word efficient staff is
very easy to justify since I was a one time contribute to the Daily
Observer and knows all the staffs there at the time.To justify the
efficiency of the staff, may I refer you to the Daily Observer issues
written by these staffs like Jawo and Jallow. Of course they are
working for the owners that is why they are subjected to these
happenings.
The third issue you riased: WHY AN OPINION POLL IT IS NOT A
COOPERATION IT IS OWN BY HIM AND HE HAVE THE RIGHT TO GIVE IT AWAY FOR
FREE TO ANYONE HE WISHESE.
You may wish to know the press is the fourth organ of a state and
therefore have the obligation to respect public opinion in any given
state.I am sure if he had conducted an opinion poll on his intention
to sell the paper,he would have got responses from the public as well
as from the staffs as to the best way of going about it.
Finally, you asked : YES THE STAFF DEDICATED THEIR LIVES BUT REMEMBER
FOR WHO? YOU SHOULD ASK YOURSELF THAT QUESTION. IT IS NOT FOR Mr. BSET
OF FOR THEIR OWN LIVING?
Bro Yus, this question proved to me that you have never contributed in
writing to newspapers for only if you had contributed would you have
known the urged in journalism. These journalist are the watchdogs of
any nation when all others are sleeping they are there to watch for
us.They are working for you and me and for the entire world. Of
course, even yourself you are working for your living just I do.
Anyway, I thank you very much for your enlightening opinions and the
way it was presented.I can assured you that I don't write to castigate
but to clear ny doubts as I am entitled to my opinion as you are but
they are there for public scrutiny so as to learn at the end of this
scrutiny.
Thank you Bro once again and do feel free to criticized my opinions as
one lerans from mistake.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:46:09 +0200
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Mbye Jabang,
Thank you very much for letting us know about Aunt Rashida condition. I =
have in fact wondered abou her a couple of times, for she was an active =
participant on Gambia-L.
I am sure all those were here during that time have missed her =
contributions. Wishing her a speedy recovery so that she can rejoin us =
soon.
A. Kabir Njie.
Modou Mbye wrote:
Asalaamu alaikum G-Lers,
Alhamdulillah, Allahumma salli wasallim alaa Nabiyyina Muhammad.=20
The inspirational and ever cheerful elder of Gambia-L, Aunty Rashida has =
been kept away from us with her valuable inputs by eye problems, and I =
am please asking all to make du'aa for her speedy recovery. =
Alhamdulillah, wa Asalullahul adheem Rabbul Arshil Adheem an yashfeehaa, =
'We
ask Allah the Supreme, lord of the Magnificent Throne to cure her'.
Aunty Rashida wrote to me:
<<How are you doing and the studies there? =20
Insha'Allah all is well. It is surely the dua's of children like you =
that is=20
responsible for the improvement in my eyes. So PLEASE continue to keep =
me in=20
your dua's -- as I do you, and all my children, in mine.
I'm guessing that you picked up my message from Quantum's Homepage =
links. =20
The young folks at Quantum are MINE! Not only are they bringing =
technology=20
home to The Gambia, teaching and reaching out -- there is never a time =
I've=20
been to their offices that Salat is not stopped for by nearly every=20
individual there. I'm more proud of that fact than their other =
achievements.=20
Quantum's Muhammed Jah is one of my Gambian children -- and it was only =
while he was here with his wife, Isatou, that he told me of the changes =
to=20
Quantum Website since I last saw it. I had not been doing any reading =
for=20
more than two months.
Well that's about all for this time of the morning -- here its almost =
2:30=20
a.m. -- so I'm going to catch some rest before Fajr. =20
Thanks for your message. Insha'Allah we'll all see each other back in =
The=20
Gambia one day. Salaams, Aunty Rashida>>
=20
The inspirational and ever cheerful elder of Gambia-L has been kept away =
from us with her valuable inputs by eye problems and I am asking all to =
make du'aa for her speedy recovery. Alhamdulillah, wa Asalullahul adheem =
Rabbul Arshil Adheem an yashfeehaa, 'We
ask Allah the Supreme, lord of the magnificent throne to cure her'.
Allahumma salli wasallim alaa Nabiyyina Muhammad. Wasalaam.
Modou Mbye
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D4>Asalaamu alaikum =
G-Lers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D4>Alhamdulillah<FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman">, Allahumma salli wasallim alaa Nabiyyina =
Muhammad.=20
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cheerful=20
elder of Gambia-L, Aunty Rashida has been kept away from us with her =
valuable=20
inputs by eye problems, and I am please asking all to make du'aa =
for her=20
speedy recovery. <STRONG>Alhamdulillah, wa Asalullahul adheem Rabbul =
Arshil=20
Adheem an yashfeehaa, 'We<BR>ask Allah the Supreme, lord of the =
Magnificent=20
Throne to cure her'.<BR></STRONG></DIV></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D4>Aunty Rashida wrote to =
me:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D4><<How are you doing =
and the=20
studies there? <BR>Insha'Allah all is well. It is surely the =
dua's=20
of children like you that is <BR>responsible for the improvement in my=20
eyes. So PLEASE continue to keep me in <BR>your dua's -- as I do =
you, and=20
all my children, in mine.<BR><BR>I'm guessing that you picked up my =
message from=20
Quantum's Homepage links. <BR>The young folks at Quantum are =
MINE! =20
Not only are they bringing technology <BR>home to The Gambia, teaching =
and=20
reaching out -- there is never a time I've <BR>been to their offices =
that Salat=20
is not stopped for by nearly every <BR>individual there. I'm more =
proud of=20
that fact than their other achievements. <BR> Quantum's Muhammed =
Jah is one=20
of my Gambian children -- and it was only <BR>while he was here with his =
wife,=20
Isatou, that he told me of the changes to <BR>Quantum Website since I =
last saw=20
it. I had not been doing any reading for <BR>more than two=20
months.<BR><BR>Well that's about all for this time of the morning -- =
here its=20
almost 2:30 <BR>a.m. -- so I'm going to catch some rest before =
Fajr. =20
<BR><BR>Thanks for your message. Insha'Allah we'll all see each =
other back=20
in The <BR>Gambia one day. Salaams, Aunty =
Rashida>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT size=3D4>The inspirational and =
ever=20
cheerful elder of Gambia-L has been kept away from us with her valuable=20
inputs by eye problems and I am asking all to make du'aa for her =
speedy=20
recovery. <STRONG></FONT><FONT size=3D4>Alhamdulillah, wa Asalullahul =
adheem=20
Rabbul Arshil Adheem an yashfeehaa, 'We<BR>ask Allah the Supreme, lord =
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Note des editeurs: Vous rappelerez une petition circulee il y a 2 mois
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50ne de signataires, mais il en faudrait davantage pour avoir un impact a
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UNESCO PETITION:
Le cout exhorbitant des documents scientifiques edites par l'UNESCO - en
particulier la serie complete de l'Histoire generale de l'Afrique -
constitue une serieuse entrave au developpement de la recherche scientifique
en Afrique. Des membres de la communaute scientifique se sont emus de cette
situation. Nous lancons donc cette petition pour demander aux autorites de
l'UNESCO de reviser a la baisse le prix des supports scientifiques
indispensables au renouvellement des connaissances pour les institutions et
chercheurs africains.
La petition internationale realisee par courrier electronique sera envoyee
par la suite a l'UNESCO a Paris pour faire pression sur cette institution
afin qu'elle revise ses tarifs pour l'Afrique.
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personnes qui veulent y participer, il suffit d'envoyer un email avec les
noms, prenoms, professions et affiliations (institutions) des signataires a
l'un des correspondants ci-dessous.
Merci!
The exorbitant prices of UNESCO's scholarly publications, namely the General
History of Africa series, seriously impede the development of scholarly
research in Africa. To address this concern, we are organizing this petition
requesting that UNESCO substantially lower the price of its scholarly
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Abdel Wedoud Ould Cheikh, Professor de Sociologie, Universite de Nouakchott,
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Abdoulaye Bara Diop, sociologue, ex-directeur de l'IFAN Cheikh Anta Diop de
Dakar, Senegal
Amady Aly Dieng, economiste, Dakar, Senegal
Astrid Hillers, Ph.D Candidate, Natural Resources, University of Michigan, USA
Bocar Diagana, Ph.D candidate, Agric. Economics , Michigan State University, USA
Boubacar Barry, professeur d'histoire, Universite Cheikh Anta Diop, Senegal
Catherine Coquery Vidrovitch, professeur d'histoire, CNRS-Universite Paris
VII, France
Charles Becker, sociologue, ORSTOM, Dakar, Senegal
Cheikh Babou, Ph.D. candidate, Michigan State University, USA
David Newbury, Professor of History, University of North Carolina
David Robinson, professor of history, Michigan State University, USA
Daouda Badiane, Enseignant et Chercheur, Universite Cheikh Anta Diop, Senegal
Debora Johnson-Ross, Ph.D Candidate, Instructor of International Studies,
Wofford College, USA
DIAGA DIOUF, Departement de Biologie Vegetale, UCAD, Senegal
E Ann McDougall, Professor of History, University of Alberta, Canada
Evelyne Foy, Consultante en communications et developpement communautaire,
Montreal, Canada
Florian Grandel, Graduate student, University of Hambourg, Germany
Garba Diallo, Lecturer on Africa, the Middle East and Sustainable Development
The International People's College, Elsinore, Denmark
Getahun Mesfin Haile, Ph.D. candidate, African History, Michigan State
University, USA
Ghislaine Lydon, Ph.D. candidate, Michigan State University, USA
Ibra Sene, Graduate Student, UCAD, Senegal
Ibrahima Sall, Professor d'histoire, Universite Paris VII, France
Jason Peirce, Ph.D. candidate, School of Oriental and African Studies,
University of London, U.K.
Jean-Paul Bado, historien, Institut d'Histoire des Civilisations Comparee,
Univ.d'Aix en Provence, France
John Hunwick, Professor of History, Northwestern University, USA
Kenneth Wilburn, Professor of History, East Carolina University
Kimberly Ludwig, Ph.D. Candidate in Political Science, Michigan State
University, USA
Kitzie McKinney, Professor of Modern Languages, Bentley College, Waltham, USA
Liz MacGonagle, Ph.D Candidate, Michigan State University, USA
Manelisi Genge, Ph.D. Candidate in History, Michigan State University, USA
Marieme Diawara, Ph.D. candidate, Michigan State University, USA
Marika Sherwood, Sr. Research Fellow, Institute of Commonwealth Studies,
London, U.K.
Martin A. Klein, Professor Emeritus, University of Toronto, Canada
Mohamed Mbodj, Professor d'histoire, Columbia University, USA
Myron Echenberg, Professor of History, McGill University, Canada
Odile Goerg, Professeure d'histoire contemporaine, USHS
Oghenetoja Okoh, Graduate Student, University of Minnesota, USA
Omofolabo Ajayi, Professor, University of Kansas, USA
Peter Mark, Professor of African Art History, Wesleyan University
Raymond R.Gervais, Chercheur consultant, Centre for Developing-Area Studies,
McGill University, Canada
Raymond Taylor, Professor of History, Saint-Xavier University, USA
Robert Fatton Jr., Professor and Chair, Foreign Affairs, University of Virginia
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Tim Carmichael, Ph.D. Candidate in History, Michigan State University, USA
Tricia Redeker Hepner, Ph.D Candidate in Anthropology, Michigan State
University, USA
Yacouba Konate, Professeur de Philosophie, Universite d'Abidjan-Cocody, Mali
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At last year's July 4 soccer tournament in Atlanta, the boys from the Motor
City, Detroit, made a spectacular debut. With just a skeletal team, we sent
the top-notch Washington, D.C. squad screaming and panting. Our lethality
was too much for them.
Here we come, again. This time, with all of us in the line-up, we are poised
to be crowned champions. We will leave no stone unturned, no opponent
unscathed. It will be a clash. A good one. Yo, Atlanta. Watch out! You
underestimate us at your own peril.
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Wayne State U.
Detroit, MI.
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> At last year's July 4 soccer tournament in Atlanta, the boys from the =
Motor
> City, Detroit, made a spectacular debut. With just a skeletal team, we =
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> the top-notch Washington, D.C. squad screaming and panting. Our =
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> was too much for them.
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> Here we come, again. This time, with all of us in the line-up, we are =
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> to be crowned champions. We will leave no stone unturned, no opponent
> unscathed. It will be a clash. A good one. Yo, Atlanta. Watch out! You
> underestimate us at your own peril.
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Wow, wow, wow, Cherno,
Easy now, Bro!!!!! Great attitude though, I like that.
The last word is with us the ATL BOYS. We shall be waiting.
Have safe and fun trip travelling down.
Peace
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Hi!
I came across this and thought I'd share it. Enjoy.
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WHO=B4S IN =
CHARGE?
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was in charge.
"I should be in charge", said the brain, "because I run all the body's =
systems, so without me nothing would happen".
"I should be in charge", said the blood, "because I circulate oxygen all =
over, so without me you'd all waste away".
"I should be in charge", said the stomach, "because I process food and =
give all of you energy".
"I should be in charge", said the rectum, "because I'm responsible for =
waste removal".
All the other body parts laughed at the rectum and insulted him, so in a =
huff he shut down tight. Within a few days, the brain had a terrible =
headache, the stomach was bloated, and the blood was toxic.
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The moral of the story?
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Buharry,
That was a good one. We're looking forward to receiving the Scandanavian
Posse for the July 4th reunion in Hotlanta. =20
Malafy "Mafy" Jarju
>Hi!
> I came across this and thought I'd share it. Enjoy.
>
Buharry.
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> WHO=B4S IN=
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>
>All the organs of the body were having a meeting, trying to decide who was
in charge.
>
>"I should be in charge", said the brain, "because I run all the body's
systems, so without me nothing would happen".
>
>"I should be in charge", said the blood, "because I circulate oxygen all
over, so without me you'd all waste away".
>
>"I should be in charge", said the stomach, "because I process food and
give all of you energy".
>
>"I should be in charge", said the rectum, "because I'm responsible for
waste removal".
>
>All the other body parts laughed at the rectum and insulted him, so in a
huff he shut down tight. Within a few days, the brain had a terrible
headache, the stomach was bloated, and the blood was toxic.
>
>Eventually, the organs gave in. They all agreed that the rectum should be
the boss.
>
>The moral of the story?
>
>You don't have to be smart or important to be a boss..........just an - -
-hole.
>
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Hello Mr. Jallow,
Our Hotlanta team is ready for combat. Have a safe trip and see you all
at the festivities.
Malafy "Mafy" Jarju
>At last year's July 4 soccer tournament in Atlanta, the boys from the Motor
>City, Detroit, made a spectacular debut. With just a skeletal team, we sent
>the top-notch Washington, D.C. squad screaming and panting. Our lethality
>was too much for them.
>
>Here we come, again. This time, with all of us in the line-up, we are poised
>to be crowned champions. We will leave no stone unturned, no opponent
>unscathed. It will be a clash. A good one. Yo, Atlanta. Watch out! You
>underestimate us at your own peril.
>
>Cherno B. Jallow
>Wayne State U.
>Detroit, MI.
>
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ls this the best of Kenneth Best to us? ls it all right and a fair =
judgement of G-LERS.
JUST REACTING.
Sincere greetings to everybody out there,and don`t give up the fight.
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> Dear Coach,
>=20
> It's good to hear from you. I gave permission to Cherno in Michigan =
to
> connect me to the Gambian hotline, but am already regretting it, since =
so
> much of what is being said on it is not too relevant to me. Besides, =
I
> believe in action, not too much talk. Finally, I am too busy trying =
to
> survive with my wife, many children and grand children to pay too much
> attention on line. I do check my email each morning and each evening, =
but I
> try not to spend more than five minutes each time, reading and =
replying
> messages addressed to me, which are usually very few.
>=20
> Thank you for your warning about the personal attacks on the G =
hotline. Now
> you know I wouldn't be interested, for that is, as you well know, not =
the
> way I do business. The problems of Africa are too great and too =
serious for
> any African to spend time attacking another. I surely don't have the =
time
> to invest in that. I hope people will come to realize that this great
> Internet resource is very precious and should be used constructively.
>=20
> As to your questions, I am not yet ready to visit that subject. I =
surely
> will, some time in the future.
>=20
> I trust all is well with you.
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> Sincerely,
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> Kenneth
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ebrima ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: den 22 juni 1999 09:03
> Subject: Questions for Kenneth Y Best?
>=20
>=20
> >Mr Best,
> >
> >This is Coach!! Long time no see!! Hope everything is going on =
smoothly.
> >Anyway, I'll write privately, now that I've got your e-mail address, =
but I
> >am sending this write up to this forum, otherwise known as Gambia L,
> because
> >the Observer issue/sale was raised here, some time ago.
> >
> >First of all, welcome to Gambia L, and I hope you'll find some of the
> >postings/articles useful and informative.
> >
> >By the way, Gambia L is a forum/medium, where Gambians everywhere, =
and
> >friends of the Gambia worldwide, exchange ideas, share information, =
engage
> >in healthy debates etc.
> >
> >Although, I must warn you now, that sometimes, these discussions do
> >degenerate into personal attacks. So one has to be very careful with =
what
> >one sends to this forum.
> >
> >Anyway, one thing is clear, everybody is waiting to hear your side of =
the
> >story, regarding the sale of the Daily Observer to our good friend, =
Amadou
> >Samba.
> >
> >In my view, it would be both useful and helpful, if you could issue, =
as
> soon
> >as possible, a statement to the Gambian people, through this forum =
and
> other
> >media, explaining why you had to sell the Observer Company.
> >
> >The following questions arise, or come to one's mind:
> >
> >1. Why did you have to sell the Observer, in the first place?
> > Did you know Amadou Samba has close links with the Jammeh regime?
> >
> >2. How was the sale conducted, especially given the fact that you
> >were/are not in the Gambia? Was is advertised? Were there other
> >bidders, apart from Amadou? Did you deal with Mr Samba yourself on =
the
> >phone, or was there an intermediary or a go-between? Is it possible =
to name
> >the intermediary.
> >
> >3. Are you aware that D.A Jawo has been sacked, shortly after the =
sale
> >took place and also Baba Galleh Jallow had to tender his =
resignation,
> >following Mr Jawo's dismissal? What is your reaction to these
> >developments involving Jallow and Jawo?
> >
> >4.Some people are also curious to know how much was the Observer sold
> for?
> >
> >5. Finally, being one of Africa's most respected veteran
> >journalists/publishers, what message/advise would you have for the =
new
> >management team at the Observer, the paper's faithful readers and the
> >Government itself?
> >
> >Extend my warmest regards to your great wife, Mae Gene, and I eagerly
> >looking forward to hearing your side of the story. I miss your =
excellent
> and
> >lucid writings/commentaries. Hope Gambia L would have some of them. A =
topic
> >for you: Africa on the eve of the new millennium. Your thoughts.
> >
> >Ebrima ceesay,
> >Birmingham, UK.
> >
> >PS: Dr Abdoulaye Saine, I always enjoy reading your useful =
publications.
> >Again, this one on the Gambia's Foreign Policy was, as expected, a =
well
> >researched and a well written paper. keep it up!
> >
> >
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Cherno,
Many thanks. I applaud your compatriots for the initiative to make use of
the Internet; however, I hope that Africans as a whole will make
constructive use of this great and unique opportunity to facilitate the
cros-fertilization of ideas for the good of Africa.
I was not sure what university you were attended until I read your "Atlanta
Here We Come - Again". Guess what! I think I have a classmate from
Cuttington, an Episcopal liberal arts college in Liberia, teaching at Wayne
State. His name is Dr. Flomo Yanquoi Stevens. He is an expert in Math, but
I believe he is teaching Management. Please look him up and tell me what
you find. I hope it's the same university.
How did the assignments go? If there's anything you think I can do to help
you on some of them, especially in relation to perceptions about our Mother
Africa, please do not hesitate to call--or email/.
Kenneth
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Subject: Atlanta, here we come - again!
>At last year's July 4 soccer tournament in Atlanta, the boys from the Motor
>City, Detroit, made a spectacular debut. With just a skeletal team, we sent
>the top-notch Washington, D.C. squad screaming and panting. Our lethality
>was too much for them.
>
>Here we come, again. This time, with all of us in the line-up, we are
poised
>to be crowned champions. We will leave no stone unturned, no opponent
>unscathed. It will be a clash. A good one. Yo, Atlanta. Watch out! You
>underestimate us at your own peril.
>
>Cherno B. Jallow
>Wayne State U.
>Detroit, MI.
>
>
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Hello Detroit!
Obviously the news about the Seattle Team hasn't reached you???
The highly professional, well trained team of Seattle soccer players are on
their way to Atlanta to take home the trophy. !!!!!!!
Abba
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Landing,
I hope not really. I must say though that not only was I very much
disappointed by Ebrima Ceesay for warning Mr. Best of our occasional
resorting to personalizing issues; I was surprised that Mr. Best took his
warning seriously.
All the same if he is unsubscribed we might have lost, for the moment at any
rate, a good chance of understanding the motives behind the sale of the
Observer and the unfavourable consequences (as of now?) for the journalists,
and perhaps, the readers as well.
Unless we wish to vehemently demonstrate that people must pull themselves up
by their own bootstraps, it will remain sufficiently clear that networking
for "the cross-fertilization" of ideas involves the exercise of mutual
solidarity, inter alia, towards helping one another mature in the way we
conduct debates and discussions. Besides, in spite of all the disinviting
belligerance and misguided aggression on Gambia-L, the general thrust has
always remained the popular will to understand, and do something about
Gambian Problems.
I am sure there are many subscribers who would agree with me that the
"search" for solutions is enough reason for Mr. Best not only to stay, but
to even make an effort to answer some of the questions asked by Mr. Ceesay.
Cheers,
Momodou S. Sidibeh.
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From: SANYANG LANDING <[log in to unmask]>
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> G-LERS,
> ls this the best of Kenneth Best to us? ls it all right and a fair
judgement of G-LERS.
> JUST REACTING.
>
> Sincere greetings to everybody out there,and don`t give up the fight.
>
> Praises are due to our ancestors!!
> Landing Alkalo Sanyang.
>
> ----- Ursprungligt meddelande -----
> Frĺn: Ken Y. Best <[log in to unmask]>
> Till: <[log in to unmask]>
> Skickat: den 23 juni 1999 02:54
> Ämne: Re: Questions for Kenneth Y Best?
>
>
> > Dear Coach,
> >
> > It's good to hear from you. I gave permission to Cherno in Michigan to
> > connect me to the Gambian hotline, but am already regretting it, since
so
> > much of what is being said on it is not too relevant to me. Besides, I
> > believe in action, not too much talk. Finally, I am too busy trying to
> > survive with my wife, many children and grand children to pay too much
> > attention on line. I do check my email each morning and each evening,
but I
> > try not to spend more than five minutes each time, reading and replying
> > messages addressed to me, which are usually very few.
> >
> > Thank you for your warning about the personal attacks on the G hotline.
Now
> > you know I wouldn't be interested, for that is, as you well know, not
the
> > way I do business. The problems of Africa are too great and too serious
for
> > any African to spend time attacking another. I surely don't have the
time
> > to invest in that. I hope people will come to realize that this great
> > Internet resource is very precious and should be used constructively.
> >
> > As to your questions, I am not yet ready to visit that subject. I
surely
> > will, some time in the future.
> >
> > I trust all is well with you.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Kenneth
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ebrima ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: den 22 juni 1999 09:03
> > Subject: Questions for Kenneth Y Best?
> >
> >
> > >Mr Best,
> > >
> > >This is Coach!! Long time no see!! Hope everything is going on
smoothly.
> > >Anyway, I'll write privately, now that I've got your e-mail address,
but I
> > >am sending this write up to this forum, otherwise known as Gambia L,
> > because
> > >the Observer issue/sale was raised here, some time ago.
> > >
> > >First of all, welcome to Gambia L, and I hope you'll find some of the
> > >postings/articles useful and informative.
> > >
> > >By the way, Gambia L is a forum/medium, where Gambians everywhere, and
> > >friends of the Gambia worldwide, exchange ideas, share information,
engage
> > >in healthy debates etc.
> > >
> > >Although, I must warn you now, that sometimes, these discussions do
> > >degenerate into personal attacks. So one has to be very careful with
what
> > >one sends to this forum.
> > >
> > >Anyway, one thing is clear, everybody is waiting to hear your side of
the
> > >story, regarding the sale of the Daily Observer to our good friend,
Amadou
> > >Samba.
> > >
> > >In my view, it would be both useful and helpful, if you could issue, as
> > soon
> > >as possible, a statement to the Gambian people, through this forum and
> > other
> > >media, explaining why you had to sell the Observer Company.
> > >
> > >The following questions arise, or come to one's mind:
> > >
> > >1. Why did you have to sell the Observer, in the first place?
> > > Did you know Amadou Samba has close links with the Jammeh regime?
> > >
> > >2. How was the sale conducted, especially given the fact that you
> > >were/are not in the Gambia? Was is advertised? Were there other
> > >bidders, apart from Amadou? Did you deal with Mr Samba yourself on the
> > >phone, or was there an intermediary or a go-between? Is it possible to
name
> > >the intermediary.
> > >
> > >3. Are you aware that D.A Jawo has been sacked, shortly after the sale
> > >took place and also Baba Galleh Jallow had to tender his
resignation,
> > >following Mr Jawo's dismissal? What is your reaction to these
> > >developments involving Jallow and Jawo?
> > >
> > >4.Some people are also curious to know how much was the Observer sold
> > for?
> > >
> > >5. Finally, being one of Africa's most respected veteran
> > >journalists/publishers, what message/advise would you have for the new
> > >management team at the Observer, the paper's faithful readers and the
> > >Government itself?
> > >
> > >Extend my warmest regards to your great wife, Mae Gene, and I eagerly
> > >looking forward to hearing your side of the story. I miss your
excellent
> > and
> > >lucid writings/commentaries. Hope Gambia L would have some of them. A
topic
> > >for you: Africa on the eve of the new millennium. Your thoughts.
> > >
> > >Ebrima ceesay,
> > >Birmingham, UK.
> > >
> > >PS: Dr Abdoulaye Saine, I always enjoy reading your useful
publications.
> > >Again, this one on the Gambia's Foreign Policy was, as expected, a well
> > >researched and a well written paper. keep it up!
> > >
> > >
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> NEW YORK AND TOUBA, SENEGAL
>
> IT MAY have taken the murder in
> February of Amadou Diallo, a Guinean, by the New York
> police to open New Yorkers' eyes to the West Africans in
> their midst. But there are plenty of them, and perhaps
> none
> more obvious than the ones who work along the main
> tourist
> drags, surreptitiously flashing briefcases glittering
> with fake
> Rolex watches and Ray Ban sunglasses. These street
> traders are part of a Sufi brotherhood, the Mouride,
> founded
> by Cheikh Amadou Bamba in Senegal at the turn of the
> century. They operate round the world, from Paris to
> Tokyo,
> but their headquarters-in-exile is New York.
>
> "It has special significance for us Mourides," says Modou
> Sarr, a shopkeeper. Mr Sarr arrived at the age of 17,
> speaking no English; the police arrested him on the first
> day
> for peddling without a licence. But this, he says, is
> simply one
> of the trials and tribulations the Mourides expect on
> their
> journey towards God. Now, at 33, Mr Sarr is an American
> citizen and owns a high-rent tourist shop on 42nd Street
> at Times Square, on one of the corners where he used to
> dodge
> the police. "They would confiscated [sic] my goods and
> arrested me but I managed to save my pennies and keep my
> faith. I knew that Amadou Bamba prevailed, so so could
> I,''
> he says.
>
> Uptown in Harlem, many Mourides have opened legitimate
> restaurants and shops. By so doing, they are changing the
> face of a depressed area. According to Randy Daniels, the
> deputy commissioner for economic development in New
> York state, "African fabric shops, travel agents and
> telephone call-centres are internationalising the
> economy."
> Immigrants from other countries in West Africa are also
> settling in Harlem and across the Harlem river in the
Bronx
> (where Diallo was shot). But 116th Street and Malcolm X
> Boulevard, around the mosque named after the radical
> black
> leader, has become known as "Little Senegal", with more
> than 80% of businesses now owned by Senegalese. A
> Mouride religious centre is under construction. The city
> of
> Manhattan has proclaimed an official holiday in Harlem
> for
> Amadou Bamba, as has Cincinnati, another favourite
> destination for the Senegalese.
>
> Many American blacks are converting to the Mouride faith.
> One of them, Alpha Elias Abdul Latif, once a member of
> Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam, praises "the
> uncompromising stance of Amadou Bamba against the European
> dominatio
> n of Africa and the world." Other
> blacks
> see parallels with their own heroes, particularly Booker
> T.
> Washington, who admonished blacks to pull themselves up
> by their bootstraps. Bamba did not do so much for his own
> people, apparently consigning them to a life of poverty
> as
> peanut-providers for the French colonial rulers in
> Senegal.
> But he has a clear advantage over Booker T: he supposedly
> performed miracles, including walking on the water after
> the
> French had put him on a ship to send him into exile.
>
> Astonished by this, the French authorities granted Bamba
> semi-autonomy over the "holy city" of Touba and the land
> around it.
> Today, Touba is squalid and overcrowded, with
> little water or sanitation. Yet it has a giant mosque and
> a
> library with 10,000 books, including Bamba's original
> writings; and, for blacks in Harlem, it carries the same
> romantic allure as kibbutzes once did for American Jews.
> Abdul Latif calls it "the ideal Islamic experience." A
> popular
> Mouride bumper sticker reads "Fly Air Touba", although
> this
> is a purely spiritual journey: Touba not only has no
> airline, but
> also no airport.
>
> What is real is the Mourides' international trade
> network.
> According to Cheikh Seye, the executive secretary of the
> Mouride Isl
> amic Community of America, about $100m is
> transferred from New York to Senegal every three months
> through informal banking arrangements. "We're a
> self-supporting community," he says from an office at the
> back of an international telephone centre on 116th
> Street.
> "When people first arrive, we find a place for them to
> stay in
> New York and we help them look for business."
>
> The problem, as Modou Sarr found, is that the start-ups
> are
> mostly peddlers who are unlicensed and illegal, and the
> city
> keeps a tight rein on the number of street-vending
> licences it
> issues. The lucky few get them through a city-organised
> lottery syst
> em; the rest are always on the run from a
> special
> police task force that cruises midtown streets in
> unmarked
> cars. Police admit (unofficially) that, of the roughly
> 1,300
> arrests they make each year, 90% are Senegalese. "We
> arrest the same guys over and over again," says one
> officer.
> One Italian-American policeman claimed that when he was
> on holiday in Rome, he saw a Senegalese peddler he knew
> from New York: "When he saw me, he ran."
>
> The Mouride community helps peddlers when they lose their
> goods. Often they are back selling on the streets the
> same
> day. But the police and city officials have cited that
fact
> as
> evidence of an organised crime network, and since 1992
> the
> task force has been arresting peddlers on more serious
> criminal charges. "Before, they'd just spend a day or two
> in
> jail and do some community service time," says the task
> force's new chief, Robert D'Onofrio. "Now we often
> charge them with selling counterfeit goods, which means
> they can do up to a year in prison." It also leaves them
> with
> a criminal record that can jeopardise their immigration
> status.
> But Seydina Senghor, executive director of Afrika
> Business
> Community and an advocate for the Mourides in New York,
> complains that the police make a habit of beating and
> harrassing bla
> ck immigrants whether they have licences or
> not.
>
> Few Mourides have made formal complaints, however. "We
> knew it wasn't going to be easy before we came," said
> Amadou Thiam, who hawks T -shirts with fake logos. "But
> this is business."
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Greetings Gambia-l,
Talking about 4th of July in Atlanta, the Gambians here in Copenhagen are
expecting visitors from both Oslo (Norway) and Stockholm (Sweden) this
coming weekend.
There will be football matchs on Saturday 3rd July at 3p.m.
1.Danish Gambians Vs Oslo
2.Danish Gambians Vs Stockholm
This event is in connection with the Gambian Cultural Week in Copenhagen
1st July - 4th July 1999.
For more information you can contact Ousman Sawaneh [log in to unmask]
regards,
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Dear Managers,
Kindly subcribe Mr. Sulayman Mboob, The FAO Resident Representative in
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Published in FOROYAA of 24 - 28 June 1999.
PRESS CONFERENCE BY THE OPPOSITION
No To Thuggery
A press conference was convened on Monday, 21 June 1999 by the opposition
parties - National Reconciliation Party (NRP), United Democratic Part (NRP)
and the People's Democratic Organisation for Independence and Socialism
(PDOIS).
The members of the opposition acknowledged that they do have fundamental
differences, but that in combatting the operation of thugs outside the ambit
of law, they are capable of taking concerted action.
The opposition explained that they considered themselves to be governments
out of office+ADs- that they have as much responsibility in ensuring good
governance in this country as the government of the day.
It was made clear that they consider it to be their responsibility to ensure
the building of a society which is free from any threat+ADs- that where such
threats exist it is the responsibility of every member of society to ensure
that the threat is reversed.
It was indicated that after the disappearance of Shyngle Nyassi, the UDP
decided to meet their colleagues in the opposition to discuss about the
situation which prevails in the country+ADs- that other opposition parties were
also making preparation to promote some form of joint action to deal with
the abduction of Shyngle Nyassi.
They indicated that the manner in which Shyngle Nyassi was abducted in the
middle of the night posed a threat and a feeling of insecurity+ADs- that the
opposition decided to take a stand against such threat by issuing a
declaration which called for Nyassi's release and the prosecution of his
abductors.
It was indicated that before the press conference they discovered that
Shyngle Nyassi had been released+ADs- that this has made the declaration a bit
outdated but the fact that his abductors are still at large makes it still
essential.
They indicated that the abduction of Shyngle Nyassi was not based on any law
or procedure+ADs- that it is criminal and does undermine the image of the
country+ADs- that such an image ought to be obliterated.
In a question and answer session, the representatives of the various
opposition parties emphasized the need to take concerted action to prevent
thuggery and ensure a political climate free from threat.
They showed their resolve to combat thuggery. They gave assurance that
concerted action will be maintained to ensure that justice prevails.
The press conference ended up with the signing of the declaration by the
following:
For NRP: Hamat Bah, Musa Njadoe and Buray Jawo+ADs-
For UDP: Ousainou Darboe, Kemeseng Jammeh and Lamin Juwara+ADs-
For PDOIS: Sam Sarr, Sidia Jatta and Halifa Sallah.
The Declaration reads:
JOINT DECLARATION OF OPPOSITION PARTIES ON THE CRIMINAL ABDUCTION OF
SHYNGLE NYASSI
The criminal abduction of Shyngle Nyassi and his continuous detention with
impunity, despite the order of a court, press releases by the UDP, petitions
by PDOIS, expression of disquiet by the NRP and the conveying of a demarche
by the European Union for his release, has compelled the opposition parties
in The Gambia to engage in mutual consultation in order to take a common
position on this issue irrespective of ideological and other differences in
political or tactical positions.
Taking into consideration that democracy and peaceful co-existence of
political parties are inconceivable without the protection of law for the
liberty and security of each person+ADs-
Bearing in mind that the most elementary responsibility of a government is
to establish an impartial, efficient and effective law enforcement agency
which is well equipped to protect the lives, liberties, security and
property of all persons+ADs-
Being shocked by the lack of initiative of the government in ensuring that
no stone is left unturned in tracing Shyngle Nyassi's abductors, effect his
release and bring them to justice with immediacy+ADs-
Acknowledging the fact that a broad consultative exercise is necessary among
political parties, in particular, and all peace loving persons, in general,
to exert influence on the government to obliterate the existence of groups
that operate outside of the ambit of law which could give rise to national
discord and national disintegration+ADs-
Being fully convinced that justice has been imperilled, common sense
dishonoured and good governance derailed by the lack of responsiveness to
the demands for Shyngle Nyassi's release+ADs-
Being fully conscious that the consequences of silence in the face of
deliberate negation of the inherent rights and freedom of a person is to
play into the hands of social mischief+ADs-
We, the undersigned, representing our respective political parties have been
mandated to denounce the criminal abduction of Shyngle Nyassi in the most
unequivocal of terms and further call for the immediate intervention of the
responsible arms of the State to ensure his release from unlawful detention
and the prosecution of his abductors.
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Published in FOROYAA of 28 June - 1 July 1999
CASAMANCE
The Facts, The Fears, The Possibilities, The Dangers And The Way Forward
The first consultative meeting of the MFDC, the Movement of the Democratic
Forces of Casamance, held in Banjul at the Atlantic Hotel, ends on 25th June
1999.
The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Dr. Momodou Lamin Sedat Jobe,
told the members of the movement at the opening ceremony that they were to
decide how best and on what platform they would approach their fraternal
talks with the government of their country, The Senegal.
Here Dr. Jobe conceives Casamance to be a part of Senegal.
In his opening speech Father Diamacoune Senghor referred to the history of
the struggle of MFDC and added +IBw-in effect, united as a single person, these
illustrious sons of our dear Casamance shared the same ideal and the same
love for their country, Casamance as had done before our valorous ancestors.
A Casamance which, after God, was their reason for living and acting as it
is and must be all the more for us today. They had given their persons to
Casamance as a gift. This is a cause for pride and patriotism for all the
people of Casamance+IB0-
Hence it is very clear from this that father Diamacoune is talking about an
Independent Casamance.
The fact still remains that Senegal sees Casamance as a part of her
territory. Peace according to Senegal is one based on the inviolability of
the territorial integrity of Senegal as conceived by her government.
On the other hand, the position of MFDC is that Casamance is the land of
their ancestors. Peace according to father Diamacoune Senghor must be based
on truth and justice and that is the recognition of the Independence of
Casamance.
The two positions have always been and still are diametrically opposed to
each other. How to harmonize the two positions is the fundamental task of
the peaceful negotiator. One may now ask what is Gambia+IBk-s role in
harmonizing the two positions?
According to the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Dr. Jobe, +IBw-the
gathering is here today in pursuant to president Jammeh+IBk-s offer of mediation
in the long-drawn out crisis in the Casamance+IB0-
According to Dr. Jobe, the gathering constitutes +IBw-the beginning of a
determined will to arrive at a peaceful settlement of the Casamance issue in
the interest of the socio-economic development of the region as a whole with
the advent of permanent peace+IB0-
Hence as far as the Gambia government is concerned, it is assumed that an
environment is being provided to ensure the harmonization of the various
positions of the Casamance groups in preparation for peaceful talks.
The fears, however, are that the position of the Senegalese government for
maintaining Casamance within its territory and the position of the MFDC for
Independence may not harmonize. If that occurs the Gambia government would
be left in a confused situation. There is no doubt that the MFDC did bring
mentors of the movement together. Time will tell whether the movement has
been consolidated to negotiate for autonomy or independence.
It goes without saying that the Senegalese government has observers at the
talks. In this regard, it is now acquainted with all the personalities and
all the positions. Senegal will therefore not be caught by surprise by any
eventuality.
Suffice it to say, the two sides could come out of the Banjul talks to go
back to prepare for a more devastating war or for a more durable peace.
Nothing indicates that either is impossible.
THE POSSIBILITIES
The aim of a negotiation is to reconcile the positions of adversaries so as
to achieve an agreement on core issues. The aim of the talks in Banjul is
said to provide opportunity for the MFDC to develop a negotiating position.
One may now ask: Have the talks achieved the purpose? The answer lies in the
final resolution of 25th June 1999 of what was referred to as a congress of
MFDC. The Resolution reads:
CONGRESS OF THE MOVEMENT OF THE DEMOCRATIC FORCES OF CASAMANCE
+ACI-FINAL RESOLUTION
+ACI-The Movement of Democratic Forces (MFDC) meeting in congress from the 21st
to the 25th June 1999, in Banjul, in the Republic of The Gambia, thanks to
the kindness of the republic of The Gambia, has examined the present
political and military situation which is of concern to it.
+ACI-In that regard, the Movement of Democratic Forces of Casamance considering
the unshakeable will of the secretary general Abbey Augustine Diamacoune
Senghor to establish unity and cohesion within the movement+ADs-
+ACI-Considering the solemn desire and commitment of Sidy Badgie, former chief
of staff of the fighting forces of the movement of Democratic Forces of
Casamance +IBw-ATIKA+IB0- to entirely subscribe to the line adopted by the Secretary
General+ADs-
+ACI-Considering that the new political situation has offered, in the supreme
interest of our nation, the creation of a provisional piloting committee and
the holding of talks in Banjul, the Gambia, from the 21st to the 25th June
1999+ADs-
+ACI-Considering that the conclusions of the deliberations of the provisional
piloting committee are largely within the frame work of the mission assigned
to him by the Secretary General of MFDC, Abbey Augustine Diamacoune Senghor+ADs-
+ACI-Considering the strong mobilization of the different delegates, as well as
the richness of their respective contributions are perfectly within the
logic of the directive of the Secretary General+ADs-
+ACI-Considering the difficulties of coordinating the different military
commands+ADs-
+ACI-The Movement of Democratic Forces of Casamance takes note of the necessity
of restructuring and reforming its institutions+ADs-
+ACI-Within this perspective, the MFDC has examined and adopted its constitution
and rules and regulations, a national Charter of Casamance resistance and a
platform of demands.
+ACI-Considering however that the present congress is acting as a national
Bureau and in conformity with the provisions of the constitution and the
rules and regulations+ADs-
+ACI-The MFDC proclaims the retention of Abbey Augustine Diamacoune Senghor,
starting from this date, in his functions as Secretary General.
+ACI-The MFDC calls on its Secretary General to nominate an officer responsible
for internal affairs and an officer responsible for external affairs who
should form their respective executives in conformity with the provisions of
the constitution and rules and regulations.
+ACI-The congress recommends to the Secretary General of the MFDC to take
initiative of creating and establishing the necessary conditions of a
lasting peace in Casamance.
+ACI-The congress denounces the destabilisation manoeuvres by the Senegalese
army of occupation with a view to sabotaging our days of reflection.
+ACI-The congress energetically condemns the kidnappings, tortures, arbitrary
arrests, rapings, degrading treatments, humiliations and assassinations
perpetrated by the Senegalese army and its henchmen in Casamance.
+ACI-The congress demands from the Senegalese authorities the immediate
withdrawal of military and paramilitary forces in Casamance.
+ACI-The retention of only the military camps whose creation is anterior to 25th
December 1979 and the immediate closure of the camps and stations created
after this date.
+ACI-The non-reinforcement of troops of the Senegalese army in Casamance as well
as the holding of ceasefire on either sides in Casamance.
+ACI-The congress reaffirms its determination to go to the negotiating table.
+ACI-The congress congratulates itself for the active participation of observer
groups and renews its request for it not to spare any effort in bringing
about peace in Casamance.
+ACI-The congress renews its total trust in the brotherly people and high
authorities of Guinea Bissau as guarantors of the ceasefire agreements
signed between the MFDC and the Senegalese government.
+ACI-The congress expresses its gratitude to the brotherly people and high
authorities of the republic of the Gambia, particularly to H.E. President
Yahya Jammeh who, in addition to his constant and selfless action in the
service of peace in Casamance has kindly accepted, with a lot of friendship,
willingness and devotion, to host in his country the present talks.
+ACI-The congress solemnly demands from H.E. President Yahya Jammeh to work for
the release to freedom of the Secretary General and all officers and
militants of the MFDC as a priority, among other things, for negotiation
with the Senegalese government. His freedom to travel within and outside the
country.
+ACI-To rigorously respect the free movement of people and goods.
+ACI-Banjul, 25th June 1999.
+ACI-The Congress.+ACI-
What is now necessary is for all the players to become vigilant. There is no
doubt that if MFDC accepts autonomy or Senegal accepts independence a
peaceful settlement could be hatched which would have crowned the Gambia
government+IBk-s mediation efforts with success. However, if the positions
become hardened the Gambia government would become increasingly vulnerable.
Senegal is likely to compel it to close its doors to MFDC, extradite its
agents and offer no sanctuary to them. In that case the ease with which the
recent talks were held would disappear and MFDC would again have to meet
under a climate of clandestinity. The members of the movement should
therefore bear in mind that the free atmosphere they received in the Gambia
is only possible because of the hope that it will lead to a peaceful
settlement of the Casamance issue. Needless to say, once a peaceful
settlement becomes illusive, the Gambia government would be accused of
collaboration if it continues to accommodate MFDC. This could even lead to
retaliation on the side of Senegal.
Hence the Secretary General of the MFDC needs to understand international
politics. The talks took place in Banjul not because of President Jammeh+IBk-s
openness to MFDC but because President Jammeh is given a green card by
Senegal. Any day that Senegal gives a red card Gambia will become a no go
territory for MFDC.
President Jammeh has already been accused of collaboration with the forces
in Casamance. If the talks fail to be fruitful he is likely to distance
himself more than ever to prevent the destabilisation of his own government.
In this regard, members of the MFDC should understand the delicate situation
Gambia is in and the delicate balancing act that is taking place. Their
experience in Guinea Bissau, whose government was the guarantor of the
ceasefire accords of 31 May 1991 and 8 July 1993, should be a constant
reminder that accommodation of the MFDC in any country must not be taken for
granted. Nkrumah Sane, who was sent to Senegal from Guinea Bissau, knows
this very well.
There is no doubt that if MFDC is resolved for autonomy, it will continue to
enjoy the accommodation of the Government of The Gambia and Guinea Bissau.
However, once it is resolved on demanding independence, international
politics will compel the Government of The Gambia and Guinea Bissau to
distance themselves.
In this respect, Nkrumah Same may be more in tune with international
politics than Dr Jobe, who claims that Sane is out of touch with the
realities on the ground.
What Sane realised, which was not realised by Dr Jobe, is that the
combatants in the field are for independence. Sane may have thought that
Father Diamacoune was coming to Banjul to discuss about autonomy. He may
have thought that Father Diamacoune would be isolated from the combatants if
he calls for autonomy at the Banjul talks. This may have been the reason why
he started giving excuses for Father Diamacoune by saying that he was out of
touch.
Hence, Nkrumah Sane envisaged failure of the talks for good reasons. Any
careful observer would know that if Father Diamacoune spoke about autonomy,
he would have been isolated from the combatants. If he speaks about
independence, he would be isolated from the Gambia Government and all
current members of the OAU. The Banjul talks, therefore, have not helped the
MFDC to resolve the question of autonomy or independence which is the key
question if there is to be a peaceful resolution of the Casamance crisis.
The delegates left Banjul with false hope because they have not been
properly guided on matters dealing with diplomacy and international
politics. The idea was for the Movement to deal with its internal
contradictions. They ended up drawing resolutions which dealt with their
relation with the Senegalese state.
The resolution should have dealt with their internal+ADs- matter and the steps
they wish to take to bring about a peaceful settlement.
In short, we have recommended the doctrine of positive neutrality for The
Gambia Government and that of progressive rapprochement between MFDC and the
Senegalese Government. If these foreign policy doctrines were adhered to,
The Gambia Government would not be in the trap it has put itself today.
THE WAY FORWARD
The Gambia Government needs to communicate with the MFDC to know their true
position. This should determine whether Gambia can play the role of a
negotiator or not. If it is clear that The Gambia Government cannot
influence MFDC to give up its claim to independence, then The Gambia should
play a neutral role and serve as host for refugees.
If there is possibility of MFDC accepting autonomy, the Gambia Government
could serve as a negotiator of the most comprehensive form of autonomy that
comes close to the exercise of right to self determination. In that regard,
it could begin by asking both sides to formulate their model structures in
preparation for peace talks.
It has given the impression that it would accommodate the MFDC under any
pretext when its precise intention is to accommodate Senegal's call for
autonomy. In this respect, false hopes have been given to the members of the
MFDC to think that they could rely on the Gambia Government under all
circumstances.
The doctrine of progressive rapprochement does not call for condemnations,
ultimatums and rigidities. It calls for mutual accommodation of positions,
cessation of hostilities, regrets of roles each has played in causing
suffering, humility and expression of common and equal desire to redress
past ills.
For example, the resolution at the end of the meeting could have called for
openness in their negotiations with Senegal. They could have called for the
freedom of movement of Father Diamacoune so that he could consult with
everyone to prepare a negotiating position, called for openness in their
negotiation with Senegal. They could have limited their demands from the
Senegalese Government to the granting of the freedom of movement of Father
Diamacoune so that he could consult with everyone and prepare the ground for
a negotiated settlement.
This would have been sufficient and reasonable as far as the doctrine of
progressive rapprochement is concerned. This policy calls for step by step
process in the building of trust between adversaries.
The Gambia Government needs to take the role of a negotiator with less
fanfare and more candour. A negotiator cannot stand aloof while situations
develop on their own. This leads to blame when things go out of control. A
negotiator must guide a process. They should have helped the MFDC to know
international politics and guide them to formulate realistic demands to get
to the next phase of the negotiation and avoid Senegal being motivated to
take rigid positions.
Hence, The Gambia Government is now required to discuss very frankly with
the MFDC to find out whether it could ever renounce its position for
independence. If that position is unnegotiable, then The Gambia Government
should know that it is not in a position to negotiate peace in Casamance. It
should then end the false impression that is given that Gambian territory
can be utilised by the MFDC to operate freely.
On the other hand, it is necessary for MFDC to realise that Casamance
refugees have found peace in The Gambia and any attempt to utilise Gambia
for its operations will draw Gambia into any armed confrontation with the
Senegalese regime. If their stand is for independence, they should be
honest enough to pursue their goal without drawing Gambia into the conflict.
They should not utilise a platform for peaceful negotiation as a platform to
pursue their own ends.
The MFDC talks are over, but it has not drawn us any closer to peace in
Casamance. The negotiating positions are as far apart as ever. The movement
cannot heal its wounds until it is decisive on autonomy or independence.
Once a position is taken, the rift will come. Hence, what has been done in
Banjul is to patch up differences and leave matters to be decided later.
This is simply a marriage of convenience. We hope the Senegalese regime will
not behave immaturely by over reacting to events in Banjul. We hope they
will see that Banjul is yet to know how to negotiate a settlement. They are
engaged in a trial and error diplomacy and should not be penalised for their
unseasoned approach to peaceful resolution of conflicts. We are all
interested parties and we will continue to play our part in the process.
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>>Subject: New Article
>>Date: 28 Jun 1999 14:09:26 -0000
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>>The Muslim Woman - http://members.aol.com/TrueIsOne/Woman.html
>>
>>Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
>>Assalamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Baraktuh Muslimeen
>>
>>Here is the newest article on The Muslim Woman.
>>
>>===================================================
>>
>>WOMEN VISITNG THE GRAVES
>>
>>First I wish to address that in Islam, one who dies enters the dimension
>>called the Barzakh wherein his deeds come to an end. He is UNABLE to do
>>ANYTHING for the living, though the results of his deeds may affect the
>>living and continue to earn reward or punishment for himself. Abu
>>Hurairah (RA) reported Allah's Messenger (SAW) saying,
>>
>>"When a man dies, his (good) deeds come to an end, except three types:
>> charity of continuing benefit, knowledge beneficial to people and a
>>righteous offspring who prays for him." (Muslim)
>>
>>The recitation of Quran in graveyards is not allowed as neither the
>>Prophet (SAW) nor his companions were known to do so. Particularly since
>>the Prophet's (SAW) wife, Aisha (RA) asked him what to say when visiting
>>graveyards and he told her to give Salama (greetings of peace) and a
>>prayer but did not tell her to recite Al-Fatiha or any other chapter from
>>the Quran. (Naasir ad-Deen al-Albanee, Ahkaam al-Janaa'iz). The text of
>>the Du'a is as follows:
>>
>>"As-Salaamu 'alla Ahlid-Diyaari minal-Mu'mineen wal-Muslimeen
>>Yarhamullaahu al-Mustaqdimeena minnaa wal-Musta'khireen wa Innaa in Shaa
>>Allaahu bikum Laahiqoon." (Sahih Muslim)
>>
>>(Peace be upon the Believers and Muslims among the inhabitants of these
>>dwellings. May Allah have mercy on those who have gone ahead of us, and
>>those following us. And we shall-Allah willing- be joining you.)
>>
>>Abu Hurairah (RA) also reported that the Prophet (SAW) had said,
>>
>>"Do not make your houses graveyards, for verily Satan flees from the house
>>in which Surah al-Baqarah is read." (Sahih Muslim)
>>
>>This narration and other like it imply that the Quran is not to be read in
>>graveyards. Quranic recitation is encouraged in the house and making it
>>like a graveyard, in which no recitation should take place, is forbidden.
>>As for the recitation of Surah Yaseen, there is no narration concerning
>>graveyards and the narration about its recitation over the dying is
>>inauthentic (Da'eef).
>>
>>This portion taken from
>>The Fundamentals of Tawheed (Islamic Monotheism)
>>By Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips
>>
>>-------------------------------------------------------
>>Women Visiting Graves
>>
>>It is permissible for women to visit a grave, but not recommended, because
>>of the great sin of weeping at the grave.
>>Most of the scholars hold it permissible for women to visit graves. This
>>is based on the following hadith from 'Aishah (RA),
>>
>>"What should I say to them, O Messenger of Allah (SAW) when visiting
>>graves?" As mentioned above Abdallah ibn Abi Mulaikah (RA) is also
>>reported to have said, "Once 'Aishah (RA) returned after visiting the
>>graveyard. I asked, 'O Mother of the Believers, where have you been?' She
>>said: 'I went out to visit the grave of my brother Abd ar-Rahman.' I asked
>>her: 'Didn't the Messenger of Allah (SAW) prohibit visiting graves?' She
>>said, 'Yes, he did forbid visiting graves during the early days, but later
>>on he ordered us to visit them'." (This is reported by Al-Hakim and
>>Al-Baihaqi, who also remarked that this hadith was narrated only by Bistam
>>bin Muslim al-Basri. Adh-Dhahabi said that it is a sound hadith)
>>
>>Anas (RA) reported:
>>
>>"The Prophet (SAW) saw a woman crying by the grave of her son, and said to
>>her, 'Fear Allah, and be patient.' She replied, 'What do you care about my
>>tragedy?' When he went away, someone told her, 'Indeed, that was the
>>Messenger of Allah (SAW). ' The woman felt extremely sorry and she
>>immediately went to the Prophet's house, where she did not find any
>>guards. She called out: 'O Messenger of Allah! I did not recognize you.'
>>The Prophet (SAW) said, 'Verily patience is needed at the time of the
>>first affiction'.'' (Bukhari and Muslim)
>>
>>This supports the argument in favor of the permissibility of women
>>visiting graves, for the Prophet (SAW) saw her at the grave and did not
>>show his disapproval of it.
>>
>>The purpose of visiting graves is to remember the Hereafter, which is
>>something that both men and women need. Men are by no means more in need
>>of this reminder than women. Some scholars disliked it for women to visit
>>graves as they are less patient and too emotional. The Prophet (SAW) said,
>>
>>"May Allah curse the women who are frequent visitors of the graves."
>>(Reported by Ahmad, Ibn Majah, and Tirmidhi, who said that it is a sound
>>hadith)
>>
>>Al-Qurtubi said: "The curse mentioned in this hadith applies only to those
>>women who visit graves frequently. The reason for this curse lies perhaps
>>in the fact that it involves infringement of the rights of the husband,
>>and leads to adornment and exhibition of their beauty to strangers, and
>>shouting, yelling, and other similar things." It may be said that, "If no
>>such harm is feared from women visiting graves, then there is no valid
>>reason for preventing them from visiting graves, for indeed remembrance of
>>death is something that both men and women equally need." Commenting on
>>Al-Qurtubi's view, Ash-Shawkani said, "This statement may form the basis
>>for reconciling apparently contradictory hadith."
>>
>>---------------------------------
>>
>>MOURNING FOR THE HUSBAND
>>
>>Wife is allowed to mourn for husband for four months and ten days
>>Narrated Zainab bint Abi Salama (RA):
>>
>>"When the news of the death of Abu Sufyan reached from Sham, Um Habiba on
>>the third day, asked for a yellow perfume and scented her cheeks and
>>forearms and said, "No doubt, I would not have been in need of this, had I
>>not heard the Prophet saying: 'It is not legal for a woman who believes in
>>Allah and the Last Day to mourn for more than three days for any dead
>>person except her husband, for whom she should mourn for four months and
>>ten days.' " (Bukhari)
>>
>>==============================
>>Wailing (Excessive Crying)
>>
>>Crying for extended periods of times, and/or crying where the voice is
>>very loud, is haram.
>>
>>The Prophet (SAW) said,
>>
>>"The deceased who is wailed over is tortured for that wailing." (Bukhari)
>>
>>The Prophet (SAW) said,
>>
>>"He who slaps the cheeks, tears the clothes and follows the traditions of
>>the Days of Ignorance is not from us." (Bukhari)
>>
>>===================
>>Crying in the Heart During Death Without Voice
>>
>>The Prophet (SAW) shed tears, but did NOT cry out in a loud voice.
>>We went with Allah's Apostle (SAW) to the blacksmith Abu Saif, and he was
>>the husband of the wet-nurse of Ibrahim (the son of the Prophet). Allah's
>>Apostle (SAW) took Ibrahim and kissed him and smelled him and later we
>>entered Abu Saif's house and at that time Ibrahim was in his last breaths,
>>and the eyes of Allah's Apostle (SAW) started shedding tears. 'Abdur
>>Rahman bin 'Auf said, "O Allah's Apostle, even you are weeping!" He said,
>>"O Ibn 'Auf, this is mercy." Then he wept more and said, "The eyes are
>>shedding tears and the heart is grieved, and we will not say except what
>>pleases our Lord, O Ibrahim! Indeed we are grieved by your separation."
>>(Bukhari)
>>
>>==========================
>>Speaking About the Deceased
>>
>>There is punishment to the deceased when you speak ill off them at the
>>time of the funeral. This does NOT mean that the deceased person hears
>>you speaking ill or well of them (as mentioned above).
>>Narrated Abu Al Aswad (RA),
>>
>>"I came to Medina when an epidemic had broken out. While I was sitting
>>with 'Umar bin Al-Khattab a funeral procession passed by and the people
>>praised the deceased. 'Umar said, "It has been affirmed to him." And
>>another funeral procession passed by and the people praised the deceased.
>>'Umar said, "It has been affirmed to him." A third (funeral procession)
>>passed by and the people spoke badly of the deceased. He said, "It has
>>been affirmed to him." I (Abu Al-Aswad) asked, "O chief of the believers!
>>What has been affirmed?" He replied, "I said the same as the Prophet had
>>said, that is: if four persons testify the piety of a Muslim, Allah will
>>grant him Paradise." We asked, "If three persons testify his piety?" He
>>[the Prophet (SAW)] replied, "Even three." Then we asked, "If two?" He
>>replied, "Even two." We did not ask him regarding one witness. (Bukhari)
>>Narrated Anas bin Malik (RA),
>>
>>"A funeral procession passed and the people praised the deceased. The
>>Prophet (SAW) said, "It has been affirmed to him." Then another funeral
>>procession passed and the people spoke badly of the deceased. The Prophet
>>said, "It has been affirmed to him". 'Umar bin Al-Khattab asked [Allah's
>>Apostle (SAW)], "What has been affirmed?" He replied, "You praised this,
>>so Paradise has been affirmed to him; and you spoke badly of this, so Hell
>>has been affirmed to him. You people are Allah's witnesses on earth."
>>(Bukhari)
>>
>>=============================
>>General Information About Funerals
>>
>>Abu Hurairah (RA) said, "Make your funerals speedy, for it is only good
>>that you are advancing him towards, or evil that you are taking off your
>>necks." (Muwatta)
>>
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hi guys,
I culled the story as it appeared on today's Daily Observer. Is anything in
the offing?
Singhatey loses two portfolios
A press release from State House last evening has announced that President
Yahya Jammeh acting under his constitutional prerogatives, has "reassigned
responsibility for Fisheries and Natural Resources to the Office of the
President with effect June 24 1999."
The responsibility was formely held by Edward Singhatey secretary of state
responsible for Presidential Affairs and the National Assembly.
No reasons have been officially given for the transfer of the portfolios.
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>Published in FOROYAA of 28 June - 1 July 1999
>
>
>CASAMANCE
>
>The Facts, The Fears, The Possibilities, The Dangers And The Way Forward
>
>
>The first consultative meeting of the MFDC, the Movement of the Democratic
>Forces of Casamance, held in Banjul at the Atlantic Hotel, ends on 25th
>June
>1999.
>
>The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Dr. Momodou Lamin Sedat Jobe,
>told the members of the movement at the opening ceremony that they were to
>decide how best and on what platform they would approach their fraternal
>talks with the government of their country, The Senegal.
>
>Here Dr. Jobe conceives Casamance to be a part of Senegal.
>
>In his opening speech Father Diamacoune Senghor referred to the history of
>the struggle of MFDC and added +IBw-in effect, united as a single person,
>these
>illustrious sons of our dear Casamance shared the same ideal and the same
>love for their country, Casamance as had done before our valorous
>ancestors.
>
>A Casamance which, after God, was their reason for living and acting as it
>is and must be all the more for us today. They had given their persons to
>Casamance as a gift. This is a cause for pride and patriotism for all the
>people of Casamance+IB0-
>
>Hence it is very clear from this that father Diamacoune is talking about an
>Independent Casamance.
>
>The fact still remains that Senegal sees Casamance as a part of her
>territory. Peace according to Senegal is one based on the inviolability of
>the territorial integrity of Senegal as conceived by her government.
>
>On the other hand, the position of MFDC is that Casamance is the land of
>their ancestors. Peace according to father Diamacoune Senghor must be based
>on truth and justice and that is the recognition of the Independence of
>Casamance.
>
>The two positions have always been and still are diametrically opposed to
>each other. How to harmonize the two positions is the fundamental task of
>the peaceful negotiator. One may now ask what is Gambia+IBk-s role in
>harmonizing the two positions?
>
>According to the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Dr. Jobe, +IBw-the
>gathering is here today in pursuant to president Jammeh+IBk-s offer of
>mediation
>in the long-drawn out crisis in the Casamance+IB0-
>
>According to Dr. Jobe, the gathering constitutes +IBw-the beginning of a
>determined will to arrive at a peaceful settlement of the Casamance issue
>in
>the interest of the socio-economic development of the region as a whole
>with
>the advent of permanent peace+IB0-
>
>Hence as far as the Gambia government is concerned, it is assumed that an
>environment is being provided to ensure the harmonization of the various
>positions of the Casamance groups in preparation for peaceful talks.
>
>The fears, however, are that the position of the Senegalese government for
>maintaining Casamance within its territory and the position of the MFDC for
>Independence may not harmonize. If that occurs the Gambia government would
>be left in a confused situation. There is no doubt that the MFDC did bring
>mentors of the movement together. Time will tell whether the movement has
>been consolidated to negotiate for autonomy or independence.
>
>It goes without saying that the Senegalese government has observers at the
>talks. In this regard, it is now acquainted with all the personalities and
>all the positions. Senegal will therefore not be caught by surprise by any
>eventuality.
>
>Suffice it to say, the two sides could come out of the Banjul talks to go
>back to prepare for a more devastating war or for a more durable peace.
>Nothing indicates that either is impossible.
>
>THE POSSIBILITIES
>
>The aim of a negotiation is to reconcile the positions of adversaries so as
>to achieve an agreement on core issues. The aim of the talks in Banjul is
>said to provide opportunity for the MFDC to develop a negotiating position.
>
>One may now ask: Have the talks achieved the purpose? The answer lies in
>the
>final resolution of 25th June 1999 of what was referred to as a congress of
>MFDC. The Resolution reads:
>
>
>CONGRESS OF THE MOVEMENT OF THE DEMOCRATIC FORCES OF CASAMANCE
>
>
>+ACI-FINAL RESOLUTION
>
>+ACI-The Movement of Democratic Forces (MFDC) meeting in congress from the
>21st
>to the 25th June 1999, in Banjul, in the Republic of The Gambia, thanks to
>the kindness of the republic of The Gambia, has examined the present
>political and military situation which is of concern to it.
>
>+ACI-In that regard, the Movement of Democratic Forces of Casamance
>considering
>the unshakeable will of the secretary general Abbey Augustine Diamacoune
>Senghor to establish unity and cohesion within the movement+ADs-
>
>+ACI-Considering the solemn desire and commitment of Sidy Badgie, former
>chief
>of staff of the fighting forces of the movement of Democratic Forces of
>Casamance +IBw-ATIKA+IB0- to entirely subscribe to the line adopted by the
>Secretary
>General+ADs-
>
>+ACI-Considering that the new political situation has offered, in the
>supreme
>interest of our nation, the creation of a provisional piloting committee
>and
>the holding of talks in Banjul, the Gambia, from the 21st to the 25th June
>1999+ADs-
>
>+ACI-Considering that the conclusions of the deliberations of the
>provisional
>piloting committee are largely within the frame work of the mission
>assigned
>to him by the Secretary General of MFDC, Abbey Augustine Diamacoune
>Senghor+ADs-
>
>+ACI-Considering the strong mobilization of the different delegates, as
>well as
>the richness of their respective contributions are perfectly within the
>logic of the directive of the Secretary General+ADs-
>
>+ACI-Considering the difficulties of coordinating the different military
>commands+ADs-
>
>+ACI-The Movement of Democratic Forces of Casamance takes note of the
>necessity
>of restructuring and reforming its institutions+ADs-
>
>+ACI-Within this perspective, the MFDC has examined and adopted its
>constitution
>and rules and regulations, a national Charter of Casamance resistance and a
>platform of demands.
>
>+ACI-Considering however that the present congress is acting as a national
>Bureau and in conformity with the provisions of the constitution and the
>rules and regulations+ADs-
>
>+ACI-The MFDC proclaims the retention of Abbey Augustine Diamacoune
>Senghor,
>starting from this date, in his functions as Secretary General.
>
>+ACI-The MFDC calls on its Secretary General to nominate an officer
>responsible
>for internal affairs and an officer responsible for external affairs who
>should form their respective executives in conformity with the provisions
>of
>the constitution and rules and regulations.
>
>+ACI-The congress recommends to the Secretary General of the MFDC to take
>initiative of creating and establishing the necessary conditions of a
>lasting peace in Casamance.
>
>+ACI-The congress denounces the destabilisation manoeuvres by the
>Senegalese
>army of occupation with a view to sabotaging our days of reflection.
>
>+ACI-The congress energetically condemns the kidnappings, tortures,
>arbitrary
>arrests, rapings, degrading treatments, humiliations and assassinations
>perpetrated by the Senegalese army and its henchmen in Casamance.
>
>+ACI-The congress demands from the Senegalese authorities the immediate
>withdrawal of military and paramilitary forces in Casamance.
>
>+ACI-The retention of only the military camps whose creation is anterior to
>25th
>December 1979 and the immediate closure of the camps and stations created
>after this date.
>
>+ACI-The non-reinforcement of troops of the Senegalese army in Casamance as
>well
>as the holding of ceasefire on either sides in Casamance.
>
>+ACI-The congress reaffirms its determination to go to the negotiating
>table.
>
>+ACI-The congress congratulates itself for the active participation of
>observer
>groups and renews its request for it not to spare any effort in bringing
>about peace in Casamance.
>
>+ACI-The congress renews its total trust in the brotherly people and high
>authorities of Guinea Bissau as guarantors of the ceasefire agreements
>signed between the MFDC and the Senegalese government.
>
>+ACI-The congress expresses its gratitude to the brotherly people and high
>authorities of the republic of the Gambia, particularly to H.E. President
>Yahya Jammeh who, in addition to his constant and selfless action in the
>service of peace in Casamance has kindly accepted, with a lot of
>friendship,
>willingness and devotion, to host in his country the present talks.
>
>+ACI-The congress solemnly demands from H.E. President Yahya Jammeh to work
>for
>the release to freedom of the Secretary General and all officers and
>militants of the MFDC as a priority, among other things, for negotiation
>with the Senegalese government. His freedom to travel within and outside
>the
>country.
>
>+ACI-To rigorously respect the free movement of people and goods.
>
>+ACI-Banjul, 25th June 1999.
>
>+ACI-The Congress.+ACI-
>
>
>What is now necessary is for all the players to become vigilant. There is
>no
>doubt that if MFDC accepts autonomy or Senegal accepts independence a
>peaceful settlement could be hatched which would have crowned the Gambia
>government+IBk-s mediation efforts with success. However, if the positions
>become hardened the Gambia government would become increasingly vulnerable.
>Senegal is likely to compel it to close its doors to MFDC, extradite its
>agents and offer no sanctuary to them. In that case the ease with which the
>recent talks were held would disappear and MFDC would again have to meet
>under a climate of clandestinity. The members of the movement should
>therefore bear in mind that the free atmosphere they received in the Gambia
>is only possible because of the hope that it will lead to a peaceful
>settlement of the Casamance issue. Needless to say, once a peaceful
>settlement becomes illusive, the Gambia government would be accused of
>collaboration if it continues to accommodate MFDC. This could even lead to
>retaliation on the side of Senegal.
>
>Hence the Secretary General of the MFDC needs to understand international
>politics. The talks took place in Banjul not because of President
>Jammeh+IBk-s
>openness to MFDC but because President Jammeh is given a green card by
>Senegal. Any day that Senegal gives a red card Gambia will become a no go
>territory for MFDC.
>
>President Jammeh has already been accused of collaboration with the forces
>in Casamance. If the talks fail to be fruitful he is likely to distance
>himself more than ever to prevent the destabilisation of his own
>government.
>In this regard, members of the MFDC should understand the delicate
>situation
>Gambia is in and the delicate balancing act that is taking place. Their
>experience in Guinea Bissau, whose government was the guarantor of the
>ceasefire accords of 31 May 1991 and 8 July 1993, should be a constant
>reminder that accommodation of the MFDC in any country must not be taken
>for
>granted. Nkrumah Sane, who was sent to Senegal from Guinea Bissau, knows
>this very well.
>
>There is no doubt that if MFDC is resolved for autonomy, it will continue
>to
>enjoy the accommodation of the Government of The Gambia and Guinea Bissau.
>However, once it is resolved on demanding independence, international
>politics will compel the Government of The Gambia and Guinea Bissau to
>distance themselves.
>
>In this respect, Nkrumah Same may be more in tune with international
>politics than Dr Jobe, who claims that Sane is out of touch with the
>realities on the ground.
>
>What Sane realised, which was not realised by Dr Jobe, is that the
>combatants in the field are for independence. Sane may have thought that
>Father Diamacoune was coming to Banjul to discuss about autonomy. He may
>have thought that Father Diamacoune would be isolated from the combatants
>if
>he calls for autonomy at the Banjul talks. This may have been the reason
>why
>he started giving excuses for Father Diamacoune by saying that he was out
>of
>touch.
>
>Hence, Nkrumah Sane envisaged failure of the talks for good reasons. Any
>careful observer would know that if Father Diamacoune spoke about autonomy,
>he would have been isolated from the combatants. If he speaks about
>independence, he would be isolated from the Gambia Government and all
>current members of the OAU. The Banjul talks, therefore, have not helped
>the
>MFDC to resolve the question of autonomy or independence which is the key
>question if there is to be a peaceful resolution of the Casamance crisis.
>
>The delegates left Banjul with false hope because they have not been
>properly guided on matters dealing with diplomacy and international
>politics. The idea was for the Movement to deal with its internal
>contradictions. They ended up drawing resolutions which dealt with their
>relation with the Senegalese state.
>
>The resolution should have dealt with their internal+ADs- matter and the
>steps
>they wish to take to bring about a peaceful settlement.
>
>In short, we have recommended the doctrine of positive neutrality for The
>Gambia Government and that of progressive rapprochement between MFDC and
>the
>Senegalese Government. If these foreign policy doctrines were adhered to,
>The Gambia Government would not be in the trap it has put itself today.
>
>
>THE WAY FORWARD
>
>The Gambia Government needs to communicate with the MFDC to know their true
>position. This should determine whether Gambia can play the role of a
>negotiator or not. If it is clear that The Gambia Government cannot
>influence MFDC to give up its claim to independence, then The Gambia should
>play a neutral role and serve as host for refugees.
>
>If there is possibility of MFDC accepting autonomy, the Gambia Government
>could serve as a negotiator of the most comprehensive form of autonomy that
>comes close to the exercise of right to self determination. In that regard,
>it could begin by asking both sides to formulate their model structures in
>preparation for peace talks.
>
>It has given the impression that it would accommodate the MFDC under any
>pretext when its precise intention is to accommodate Senegal's call for
>autonomy. In this respect, false hopes have been given to the members of
>the
>MFDC to think that they could rely on the Gambia Government under all
>circumstances.
>
>The doctrine of progressive rapprochement does not call for condemnations,
>ultimatums and rigidities. It calls for mutual accommodation of positions,
>cessation of hostilities, regrets of roles each has played in causing
>suffering, humility and expression of common and equal desire to redress
>past ills.
>
>For example, the resolution at the end of the meeting could have called for
>openness in their negotiations with Senegal. They could have called for the
>freedom of movement of Father Diamacoune so that he could consult with
>everyone to prepare a negotiating position, called for openness in their
>negotiation with Senegal. They could have limited their demands from the
>Senegalese Government to the granting of the freedom of movement of Father
>Diamacoune so that he could consult with everyone and prepare the ground
>for
>a negotiated settlement.
>
>This would have been sufficient and reasonable as far as the doctrine of
>progressive rapprochement is concerned. This policy calls for step by step
>process in the building of trust between adversaries.
>
>The Gambia Government needs to take the role of a negotiator with less
>fanfare and more candour. A negotiator cannot stand aloof while situations
>develop on their own. This leads to blame when things go out of control. A
>negotiator must guide a process. They should have helped the MFDC to know
>international politics and guide them to formulate realistic demands to get
>to the next phase of the negotiation and avoid Senegal being motivated to
>take rigid positions.
>
>Hence, The Gambia Government is now required to discuss very frankly with
>the MFDC to find out whether it could ever renounce its position for
>independence. If that position is unnegotiable, then The Gambia Government
>should know that it is not in a position to negotiate peace in Casamance.
>It
>should then end the false impression that is given that Gambian territory
>can be utilised by the MFDC to operate freely.
>
>On the other hand, it is necessary for MFDC to realise that Casamance
>refugees have found peace in The Gambia and any attempt to utilise Gambia
>for its operations will draw Gambia into any armed confrontation with the
>Senegalese regime. If their stand is for independence, they should be
>honest enough to pursue their goal without drawing Gambia into the
>conflict.
>They should not utilise a platform for peaceful negotiation as a platform
>to
>pursue their own ends.
>
>The MFDC talks are over, but it has not drawn us any closer to peace in
>Casamance. The negotiating positions are as far apart as ever. The movement
>cannot heal its wounds until it is decisive on autonomy or independence.
>Once a position is taken, the rift will come. Hence, what has been done in
>Banjul is to patch up differences and leave matters to be decided later.
>This is simply a marriage of convenience. We hope the Senegalese regime
>will
>not behave immaturely by over reacting to events in Banjul. We hope they
>will see that Banjul is yet to know how to negotiate a settlement. They are
>engaged in a trial and error diplomacy and should not be penalised for
>their
>unseasoned approach to peaceful resolution of conflicts. We are all
>interested parties and we will continue to play our part in the process.
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THE EUROPEAN COMMISSION (EC) GRANTS 260 MILLION DALASIS IN SUPPORT TO
POVERTY ERADICATION IN THE GAMBIA
On Tuesday 29th June 1999, the Gambian Authorities have signed with the
European Commission (EC) three (3) major financing agreements totalling
21.7 million EURO, the new European currency, and equivalent to 260
million Dalasis.
In accordance with the provisions of the Lome Convention, these
agreements were signed by the National Authorising Officer, Mr. Dodou
Bammy Jagne, Permanent Secretary, Department of State for Finance and
Economic Affairs (DoSFEA) in the presence of Mr. Georges-Marc Andre, the
European Commission Charge d’Affaires in The Gambia. The ceremony was
witnessed by the Secretary of State for Finance and Economic Affairs,
Hon. Famara Jatta, the Attorney General, Secretary of State for Justice,
Hon. Fatou Bomm Bensouda, H.E. the British High Commissioner, Mr. Tony
Millson, who represented the European Union 15 Member States.
A special mention should also be made of the presence of Mr. Jan Van
Kamp, Programme coordinator for EC funded projects, who during 8 years
has worked intensively for The Gambia’s improved future and is leaving
the country on 30th June.
The main objective of this substantial grant is to serve poverty
eradication in The Gambia. The new programmes will have duration of 4 to
5 years. The three priority sectors to be addressed are:
(1) Support to Decentralised Rural Development (SDRD), which with an
amount of 14.8 million EURO, equivalent to 177.6 million Dalasis, will
pursue and extend the EC support to rural development in the North Bank,
Upper River and Western Divisions. For the last 10 years, the EC has
already funded development activities, including the VISA programme, in
these 3 Divisions for a total amount of 27 million EURO (equiv. 324
million Dalasis). SDRD activities will concentrate on i) the
implementation of community based projects aimed at upgrading rural
production and social infrastructure, including the construction of
feeder roads (such as possibly the extension up to Koina of the EC
funded Basse-Fatoto road), ii) diversified income generating activities
of rural poor, specifically targeting women, iii) village water supply
projects, iv) reform of legal and regulatory framework for agricultural
producer organisations and policy and strategy of micro-finance
operations, v) strengthening agricultural research and extension
linkages at national and community levels, specially addressing improved
production techniques and environmental issues, and vi) enhancing
management and planning capacities of local institutions with a view to
support sustainable rural development.
(2) Support to the Education Sector Programme (SESP), which amounts to 5
million EURO, equivalent to 60 million Dalasis. SESP will be part of
the Government’s Third Education Programme, which should also benefit
from other donors’ support (World Bank, DFID-UK, etc.). The EC support
will focus upon rural areas of the country by providing improved access
(particularly to girls) to, and quality, relevance and efficiency of,
basic education (grade 1 to 9). It will also provide an effective
framework for conducing demand-driven rural vocational training
programmes.
(3) Capacity building in the Department of State for Finance, which
amounts to 1.9 million EURO, equivalent to 23 million Dalasis. In order
to facilitate the dialogue between the Department of State for Finance
and Economic Affairs (DoSFEA) and the EC, as well as to establish the
required coordination and monitoring capacity, with the aim to improve
project/programme implementation and to optimise the effective
utilisation and coherence between actions funded from both external and
Government resources, an EC Unit (ECU) is being created as a dedicated
unit under the direct authority of the Permanent Secretary of DoSFEA.
The Coordinator of this unit will be a senior Gambian who will work
together with all departments and actors concerned with EC funded
activities. He will also participate in the coordination among relevant
donors in The Gambia.
Through its support exclusively in the form of grants, the EC has become
The Gambia’s most important development partner. In this context, the EC
would like to recall that respect for human rights, democratic
principles and the rule of law constitute an essential element (article
5) of the Lome Convention, which gears the relations between the EC and
its partners from the ACP (Africa, Caribbean and Pacific) States.
As agreed with the Gambian Authorities, the EC also intends to pursue
its support to the re-vitalisation of the groundnut sub-sector. This
implies, i) a transfer of responsibilities from Government controlled
bodies to private operators, including the producers themselves, ii) to
reinforce the private operators’ capacities and iii) the setting up of
a privately managed price stabilisation fund.
Whilst implementing these new and ongoing major programmes, The Gambia
and the EC will continue preparing further funding, which should
come in support to, i) decentralisation and local government
reform, ii) the maintenance/rehabilitation of important sections of
roads, combined with the setting up of a Highway Authority and a Road
Maintenance Fund, iii) community forestry and agro-forestry and iv)
research in the livestock sector through support to the International
Trypanotolerance Centre (ITC).
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<P>On Tuesday 29th June 1999, the Gambian Authorities have signed with
the European Commission (EC) three (3) major financing agreements totalling
21.7 million EURO, the new European currency, and equivalent to 260 million
Dalasis.
<P>In accordance with the provisions of the Lome Convention, these agreements
were signed by the National Authorising Officer, Mr. Dodou Bammy Jagne,
Permanent Secretary, Department of State for Finance and Economic Affairs
(DoSFEA) in the presence of Mr. Georges-Marc Andre, the European Commission
Charge d’Affaires in The Gambia. The ceremony was witnessed by the
Secretary of State for Finance and Economic Affairs, Hon. Famara Jatta,
the Attorney General, Secretary of State for Justice, Hon. Fatou Bomm Bensouda,
H.E. the British High Commissioner, Mr. Tony Millson, who represented the
European Union 15 Member States.
<P>A special mention should also be made of the presence of Mr. Jan Van
Kamp, Programme coordinator for EC funded projects, who during 8 years
has worked intensively for The Gambia’s improved future and is leaving
the country on 30th June.
<P>The main objective of this substantial grant is to serve poverty eradication
in The Gambia. The new programmes will have duration of 4 to 5 years.
The three priority sectors to be addressed are:
<BR>(1) Support to Decentralised Rural Development (SDRD), which with an
amount of 14.8 million EURO, equivalent to 177.6 million Dalasis, will
pursue and extend the EC support to rural development in the North Bank,
Upper River and Western Divisions. For the last 10 years, the EC
has already funded development activities, including the VISA programme,
in these 3 Divisions for a total amount of 27 million EURO (equiv. 324
million Dalasis). SDRD activities will concentrate on i) the
implementation of community based projects aimed at upgrading rural production
and social infrastructure, including the construction of feeder roads (such
as possibly the extension up to Koina of the EC funded Basse-Fatoto road),
ii) diversified income generating activities of rural poor, specifically
targeting women, iii) village water supply projects, iv) reform
of legal and regulatory framework for agricultural producer organisations
and policy and strategy of micro-finance operations, v) strengthening
agricultural research and extension linkages at national and community
levels, specially addressing improved production techniques and environmental
issues, and vi) enhancing management and planning capacities of local
institutions with a view to support sustainable rural development.
<BR>(2) Support to the Education Sector Programme (SESP), which amounts
to 5 million EURO, equivalent to 60 million Dalasis. SESP will be
part of the Government’s Third Education Programme, which should also benefit
from other donors’ support (World Bank, DFID-UK, etc.). The EC support
will focus upon rural areas of the country by providing improved access
(particularly to girls) to, and quality, relevance and efficiency of, basic
education (grade 1 to 9). It will also provide an effective framework
for conducing demand-driven rural vocational training programmes.
<BR>(3) Capacity building in the Department of State for Finance, which
amounts to 1.9 million EURO, equivalent to 23 million Dalasis. In
order to facilitate the dialogue between the Department of State for Finance
and Economic Affairs (DoSFEA) and the EC, as well as to establish the required
coordination and monitoring capacity, with the aim to improve project/programme
implementation and to optimise the effective utilisation and coherence
between actions funded from both external and Government resources, an
EC Unit (ECU) is being created as a dedicated unit under the direct authority
of the Permanent Secretary of DoSFEA. The Coordinator of this unit
will be a senior Gambian who will work together with all departments and
actors concerned with EC funded activities. He will also participate
in the coordination among relevant donors in The Gambia.
<P>Through its support exclusively in the form of grants, the EC has become
The Gambia’s most important development partner. In this context, the EC
would like to recall that respect for human rights, democratic principles
and the rule of law constitute an essential element (article 5) of the
Lome Convention, which gears the relations between the EC and its partners
from the ACP (Africa, Caribbean and Pacific) States.
<P>As agreed with the Gambian Authorities, the EC also intends to pursue
its support to the re-vitalisation of the groundnut sub-sector. This
implies, i) a transfer of responsibilities from Government controlled bodies
to private operators, including the producers themselves, ii) to
reinforce the private operators’ capacities and iii) the setting
up of a privately managed price stabilisation fund.
<P>Whilst implementing these new and ongoing major programmes, The Gambia
and the EC will continue preparing further
funding, which should come in support to,
i) decentralisation and local government reform, ii) the maintenance/rehabilitation
of important sections of roads, combined with the setting up of a Highway
Authority and a Road Maintenance Fund, iii) community forestry and
agro-forestry and iv) research in the livestock sector through support
to the International Trypanotolerance Centre (ITC).
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<< ~ 61 weird things I bet you didn't know ~
Useless and dumb facts
1.) Abraham Lincoln's dog, Fido, was assasinated too
2.) In Chinese, the Kentucky Fried Chicken slogan "Finger lickin' good"
comes out as "eat your fingers off".
3.) Ben Affleck is aviophobic, in other words, he's afraid to fly.
4.) A cackroach can live for 10 days without a head.
5.) European women didn't wear under pants until the early 1900's. (GROSS)
6.) On average, a human being will have sex mor than 2,000 times, and spend
2 weeks kissing in their lifetime.
7.) Nore than 50% of the people in the world have never made or received a
telephone call.
8.) Janet Jackson get's coffee enemas. ( What's THAT?)
9.) We shed 40 pounds of skin in a lifetime. ( ALSO GROSS)
10.) Yo-Yos were once used as weapons in teh Philippines.
11.) A Russian woman gave birth to 69 children from 1725 to 1765 (poor
woman)
There were 16 pairs of twins, seven sets of triplets, and four sets of
quadruplets.
Yikes, I'd hate to see her stomach!
12.) Prince William (Chloe's hottie) once flushed his dad's shoes down the
toilet.
(Chloe, you REALLY should talk to him about that)
13.) Coca Cola can be used as car oil (but don't try it!)
14.) Mexico city sinks about 10 inches each year.
15.) Anne Boleyn, Queen Elizabeth's mother, had six fingers on her left
hand.
16.) Austrlia speak for going to the bathroom is "Spending a penny".
17.) You blink your eyes about 20,000 times a day.
18.)Talk about school misfits, Leo brought things like oxtail soup and
kohlrabi for lunch. Eeewwwww
19.) Girls see better inthe dark than guys. ( So..that means girls have the
better advantage of scoping at parties)
20.) Sneakers originated in the US in 1916, they were called Keds.
21.) An average person has 696 muscles; a caterpillar has more than 4,000!
22.) The typical bed houses 2 million dust mites! YUCK!
23.) A dime has 118 ridges around the edge.
24.) Brains are more active sleeping than when watching tv.
25.) Ancient Romans and Egyptians used crushed tadpoles and oil for
hairdye.
26.) Blue is the favorite color of 80% of Americans.
27.) A giraffe cleans it's ears with its 21 inch long tongue.
28.) Most bears are left handed, maybe that's where the term, "South Paw"
came from.
29.) When a person shakes their head from side to side in Sri Lanka, they
are saying "Yes".
30.) The largest chocolate chip cookie ever made contained approximately
2.8 tons of chocolate. (yum)
31.) There are more chickens in the world than humans.
32.) It's against the law to have a dog in Iceland, un-less it's a seein
eye dog.
33.) It's impossible to sneeze with your eyes open. (Go ahead and try it)
34.) The thumbnail grows the slowest.
35.) The middle nail grows tha fastest.
36.) Rats can't vomit.
37.) There's actually a museum of menstruation and women's health. In
Hyattsville, Maryland.
38.) The frisbee was invented by students at Yale in 1947. 9 They played
with empty aluminum pie plates from a baker named Joseph Frisbie).
39.) Evey day 0.5% of the worlds population goes to McDonalds. Sheesh
people!
40.) Children grow faster in the Spring.
41.) The electric chair was invented by a dentist.
42.) Napoleon suffered from constipation.
43.) Police in Texas offer a Marilyn Manson awareness seminar for educators
and law enforcement officials.
44.) There are 293 ways to make change for a dollar.
45.) The only word with all vowels in reverse order is "Subcontinental".
46.) Donald Duck comics were once banned from Finland because Donald
doesn't wear pants.
47.) Katie Holmes favorite food is jelly beans.
48.) 85% of people killed by lightening are male.
49.) Your body is 70% water.
50.) Lisa Kudrow takes her Game Boy everywhere.
51.) There are more telephones than people in Washington D.C..
52.) The back of a sock is called the "Gore"; So is the Vice President.
53.) Beethoven poured cold water over himself before he composed.
54.) We've eaten 400 billion Oreo's since they were first introduced in
1912.
55.) The Snickers var is the number #1 selling candy in vending machines.
56.) The "Sixth sick Sheik's sixth sheep's sick" is said to be the toughest
tongue twister of the English language.
57.) Carson Daly was O.J Simpson's caddie. ( Hmm, so where was HE on the
night of the murders?)
58.) Add up all the numbers on the Roulette wheel and you get 666.
59.) In Pakistan, it's impolite to show the soles of your feet.
60.) Barbie's full name is "Barbara Millicent Roberts".
61.) There are more plastic flamingoes in the US than there are real ones. >>
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~ 61 weird things I bet you didn't know ~
Useless and dumb facts
1.) Abraham Lincoln's dog, Fido, was assasinated too
2.) In Chinese, the Kentucky Fried Chicken slogan "Finger lickin' good"
comes out as "eat your fingers off".
3.) Ben Affleck is aviophobic, in other words, he's afraid to fly.
4.) A cackroach can live for 10 days without a head.
5.) European women didn't wear under pants until the early 1900's. (GROSS)
6.) On average, a human being will have sex mor than 2,000 times, and spend
2 weeks kissing in their lifetime.
7.) Nore than 50% of the people in the world have never made or received a
telephone call.
8.) Janet Jackson get's coffee enemas. ( What's THAT?)
9.) We shed 40 pounds of skin in a lifetime. ( ALSO GROSS)
10.) Yo-Yos were once used as weapons in teh Philippines.
11.) A Russian woman gave birth to 69 children from 1725 to 1765 (poor
woman)
There were 16 pairs of twins, seven sets of triplets, and four sets of
quadruplets.
Yikes, I'd hate to see her stomach!
12.) Prince William (Chloe's hottie) once flushed his dad's shoes down the
toilet.
(Chloe, you REALLY should talk to him about that)
13.) Coca Cola can be used as car oil (but don't try it!)
14.) Mexico city sinks about 10 inches each year.
15.) Anne Boleyn, Queen Elizabeth's mother, had six fingers on her left
hand.
16.) Austrlia speak for going to the bathroom is "Spending a penny".
17.) You blink your eyes about 20,000 times a day.
18.)Talk about school misfits, Leo brought things like oxtail soup and
kohlrabi for lunch. Eeewwwww
19.) Girls see better inthe dark than guys. ( So..that means girls have the
better advantage of scoping at parties)
20.) Sneakers originated in the US in 1916, they were called Keds.
21.) An average person has 696 muscles; a caterpillar has more than 4,000!
22.) The typical bed houses 2 million dust mites! YUCK!
23.) A dime has 118 ridges around the edge.
24.) Brains are more active sleeping than when watching tv.
25.) Ancient Romans and Egyptians used crushed tadpoles and oil for
hairdye.
26.) Blue is the favorite color of 80% of Americans.
27.) A giraffe cleans it's ears with its 21 inch long tongue.
28.) Most bears are left handed, maybe that's where the term, "South Paw"
came from.
29.) When a person shakes their head from side to side in Sri Lanka, they
are saying "Yes".
30.) The largest chocolate chip cookie ever made contained approximately
2.8 tons of chocolate. (yum)
31.) There are more chickens in the world than humans.
32.) It's against the law to have a dog in Iceland, un-less it's a seein
eye dog.
33.) It's impossible to sneeze with your eyes open. (Go ahead and try it)
34.) The thumbnail grows the slowest.
35.) The middle nail grows tha fastest.
36.) Rats can't vomit.
37.) There's actually a museum of menstruation and women's health. In
Hyattsville, Maryland.
38.) The frisbee was invented by students at Yale in 1947. 9 They played
with empty aluminum pie plates from a baker named Joseph Frisbie).
39.) Evey day 0.5% of the worlds population goes to McDonalds. Sheesh
people!
40.) Children grow faster in the Spring.
41.) The electric chair was invented by a dentist.
42.) Napoleon suffered from constipation.
43.) Police in Texas offer a Marilyn Manson awareness seminar for educators
and law enforcement officials.
44.) There are 293 ways to make change for a dollar.
45.) The only word with all vowels in reverse order is "Subcontinental".
46.) Donald Duck comics were once banned from Finland because Donald
doesn't wear pants.
47.) Katie Holmes favorite food is jelly beans.
48.) 85% of people killed by lightening are male.
49.) Your body is 70% water.
50.) Lisa Kudrow takes her Game Boy everywhere.
51.) There are more telephones than people in Washington D.C..
52.) The back of a sock is called the "Gore"; So is the Vice President.
53.) Beethoven poured cold water over himself before he composed.
54.) We've eaten 400 billion Oreo's since they were first introduced in
1912.
55.) The Snickers var is the number #1 selling candy in vending machines.
56.) The "Sixth sick Sheik's sixth sheep's sick" is said to be the toughest
tongue twister of the English language.
57.) Carson Daly was O.J Simpson's caddie. ( Hmm, so where was HE on the
night of the murders?)
58.) Add up all the numbers on the Roulette wheel and you get 666.
59.) In Pakistan, it's impolite to show the soles of your feet.
60.) Barbie's full name is "Barbara Millicent Roberts".
61.) There are more plastic flamingoes in the US than there are real ones.
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Hello guys,
I would someone to help me news about the lates developments in The
Gambia.
I had from Radio KANKANG the Rtd . Captain Edward Sighateh have been
removed from office
sometime last week.
Please I just want to know whether it is true or not.
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Jaajef wa G-L,
For those interested Muslims in London/UK, I have been
asked to publicise the following event:
3rd Annual Conference of the Muslim Foundation (UK)
Saturday 17th July 1999,
3pm
at The Muslim World League
46 Goodge Street, London W1P 1FJ
Lecture to be delivered by Sheikh Imam Muntaha Faye of
Banjul, The Gambia on "The life and personal experiences
of The Prophet Mohammed (pbuh)"
The lecture will be followed by a question and answer
session and a reception after to allow guests and
participants the opportunity to meet each other.
All interested persons are cordially invited.
For more details please ring:
0181-958-4248
0171-833-4761
0181-201-3400
0171-739-4816
0171-625-5083
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Yeenduleen ak Jaama
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Good morning Karma.
Subject: FW: 10 Things Black Folk Should Do NOW ! T. Smiley
> 1. Register to vote or ... shut up!
>
> 2. Take all that money out of those stocking
caps, tin
cans, bed
> mattresses, floorboards and invest your money
in
something. For
> starters,
> invest in the food you eat and clothes you
wear.
>
> 3. Learn another language-Ebonics doesn't
count.
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> 4. Stop using the "N" word by the year 2000
...
especially since
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definition-you've got
a
> little time, but time is wasting.
>
> 5. Buy something each week from a Black
vendor.
>
> 6. Stop blaming white folk for 98% of your
problems,
while giving
> them 100% of your money.
>
> 7. Subscribe to Ebony, Jet, Black Enterprise,
Essence,
Emerge or
> Heart and Soul. Then subscribe to one of the
three
weeklies: Time,
> Newsweek or U.S. News & World Report. After we
read about
what's
going
> on in our world, how about knowing what's
going on
in
theirs? It
is,
> after all, your world.
>
> 8. Stop walking past each other and not
speaking.
>
> 9. Be on time for something-anything!
>
> 10. Get an annual check-up-herbs do not cure
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Hi Jatta,
I'm afraid Captain Sinhatey is still in office, just that the portfolios of
Fisheries and Natural Resources have been moved to the Office of the
President,why ? i don't know ! However , he still has the portfolio for
Presidential Affairs, he still is a secretary of state.
For Press Freedom.
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>Hello guys,
>
>I would someone to help me news about the lates developments in The
>Gambia.
>
>I had from Radio KANKANG the Rtd . Captain Edward Sighateh have been
>removed from office
>sometime last week.
>
>Please I just want to know whether it is true or not.
>
>Wishing you all the best.
>
>Babucar Boye Jaata.
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Hi,
I have been reliably informed that Tombong is still the TV boss after he
sent a delegation to the President comprising of Bakary Njie of gamtel,SOS
Lamin Kaba Bajo and the Kujabis with a bundle of crocodile tears, meanwhile
Thomasi's appointment is withdrawn.
For Freedom !
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Asalaamu alaikum Tony,
Alhamdulillah and we are very happy to learn about this lecture in London by
our very own Sh. Faye. May Allah make it a success. Allahumma salli wasallim
ala Nabiyyina Muhammad.
Wasalaam.
Modou Mbye
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>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:55:48 +0000
>
>Jaajef wa G-L,
>
>For those interested Muslims in London/UK, I have been
>asked to publicise the following event:
>
>3rd Annual Conference of the Muslim Foundation (UK)
>
>Saturday 17th July 1999,
>3pm
>at The Muslim World League
>46 Goodge Street, London W1P 1FJ
>
>Lecture to be delivered by Sheikh Imam Muntaha Faye of
>Banjul, The Gambia on "The life and personal experiences
>of The Prophet Mohammed (pbuh)"
>
>The lecture will be followed by a question and answer
>session and a reception after to allow guests and
>participants the opportunity to meet each other.
>
>All interested persons are cordially invited.
>
>For more details please ring:
>0181-958-4248
>0171-833-4761
>0181-201-3400
>0171-739-4816
>0171-625-5083
>07957-41-61-50
>
>
>Yeenduleen ak Jaama
>
>Tony
>
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Greetings:
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> Thank you in advance.
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Hi Fina,
Can you please give us a break.Your postings are becoming very
boring,because you keep on writing about only one person,Tombong.Why? If you
want to be the Director of broadcasting for GRTS,can you please apply and
leave this guy alone for heaven's sake.
No hard feelings.
Fatou Harona Drammeh.
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Finnah,
Give us a break 'for crying out loud'. The fact is Tombong has never b=
een removed. Simply put, Tombong is doing a marvelous job at GRTS and h=
as the full support of the President and all 'key' authorities.
Your 'Radio Kankang' stuff is getting TOO OLD!!!!. Find something else=
to contribute to the list besides Tombong's personal life.
Regards,
Malafy "Mafy" Jarju
Hi,
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e
sent a delegation to the President comprising of Bakary Njie of gamtel,=
SOS
Lamin Kaba Bajo and the Kujabis with a bundle of crocodile tears, meanw=
hile
Thomasi's appointment is withdrawn.
For Freedom !
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Finnah,
Give us a break 'for crying out loud'. The fact is Tombong has never been
removed. Simply put, Tombong is doing a marvelous job at GRTS and has the
full support of the President and all 'key' authorities.
Your 'Radio Kankang' stuff is getting TOO OLD!!!!. Find something else to
contribute to the list besides Tombong's personal life.
Regards,
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>sent a delegation to the President comprising of Bakary Njie of gamtel,SOS
>Lamin Kaba Bajo and the Kujabis with a bundle of crocodile tears, meanwhile
>Thomasi's appointment is withdrawn.
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Finnah,
Give us a break 'for crying out loud'. The fact is Tombong has never b=
een removed. Simply put, Tombong is doing a marvelous job at GRTS and h=
as the full support of the President and all 'key' authorities.
Your 'Radio Kankang' stuff is getting TOO OLD!!!!. Find something else=
to contribute to the list besides Tombong's personal life.
Regards,
Malafy "Mafy" Jarju
Hi,
I have been reliably informed that Tombong is still the TV boss after h=
e
sent a delegation to the President comprising of Bakary Njie of gamtel,=
SOS
Lamin Kaba Bajo and the Kujabis with a bundle of crocodile tears, meanw=
hile
Thomasi's appointment is withdrawn.
For Freedom !
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Gambia-l,
I was indeed appointed Permanent Secretary Office of The President and it
was promotion. However, after a thorough review, the decision was rescinded.
The entire fiasco was as a result of some misrepresentations, however I do
not intend to wash our dirty laundry in public by getting into details of
how this came about. The fact of the matter is I am still the Director of
Broadcasting Services and I am happy and content with my job.
PEACE
TOMBONG
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Mr. Saidy,
Just out of curiosity, what would have happened to Saja Taal who was =
given the same piece of the pie some time ago? (according to your own =
posting on the list).
You don't have to answer the question if you don't know , I was just =
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switched at the blink of an eye.
Good luck and keep on doing the best for the people!
Abdoulie Jallow
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details of
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Why men are promiscuous
- by James A. Fabunmi
Why explain the obvious? It is difficult to be yourself when everyone
around you expects you to be different. Very often, the male species is
confronted with an assortment of accusations, among which is their
propensity for indiscriminate sexual liaisons. I am speaking in averages
now. There are women who are every bit as promiscuous as men. But then,
why does the law of averages tend to place men at a higher risk of being
unable to resist promiscuous behavior? The most faithful husband (on the
surface), faced with a gorgeous bimbo on an isolated tropical island,
has no chance. Why? Well, I have always had a theory about this, and I
have articulated this theory on a number of occasions to very carefully
selected audiences. The only reason that I am able to write publicly
about this theory, is because I read the same argument in no less a
magazine than Glamour (May 1999 p.306 =93Why are men so easy?=94). Yes, I
read Glamour magazine. If you want to survive in this world, you need to
know the secrets that women share among themselves. A good place to find
those secrets is in Glamour magazine.
It would really be easier for me to derive a differential equation for
my theory, but I might loose out on the majority of my audience. So, I
will try to narrate the concepts, hoping that my point will come across
somehow. The easiest way to visualize what I am about to state is to
imagine two separate islands A and B. Island A is populated by women
alone, while island B is populated by men alone. Let us attempt a
controlled experiment. On island A, we introduce a pair of males. One
promiscuous, one normal (whatever that means). On island B, we introduce
a pair of females, one promiscuous, one normal. The normal male on
island A finds a mate and remains faithful to her. Over the course of
one year, they are able to produce no more than one offspring (except of
course if they have twins or triplets or whatever). On the other hand,
the promiscuous male on island A, technically speaking could reproduce
as many offsprings as he can find women to copulate with him. As you can
see, in a matter of one year, the population distribution on this island
is already infested with more people with promiscuous genes in them. Of
course there will be male and female among those offsprings. Lets now
look at island B. Over the course of one year, each of the females can
only produce one pregnancy, regardless of how promiscuous one is,
compared to the other. The growth of promiscuity within a population
does not depend on the starting ratio of promiscuous women to
non-promiscuous ones.
The picture painted above is used to establish the basis that the rate
of change of promiscuity within a population is governed by the rate of
production of promiscuous males within that population. For the simple
fact that the non-promiscuous males are not going to spread their genes
nearly as fast as the promiscuous males, it is not difficult, even for a
non-mathematician to speculate that at any given moment in time, the
statistical tendency is for the males within that population is to be
promiscuous. This brings me to the issue of morality. It is clear that
the only way to stem the rate of growth of promiscuous males within a
society is to contain their natural tendencies with laws of all sorts.
There are two components to these laws. One component aims at making the
male species feel guilty about their biological tendencies. The other
component aims at discouraging the females from cooperating with these
males. We can throw in to this mix the impact of contraceptive
technologies. The rest of the analysis is left as an exercise for the
reader.
Peace
James.
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