Osmar Ferreira de Oliveira wrote:
:      We may even think if Justice should be vengeance and vengeance, Justice.
:      It reminds me " greek tragodias".
:      And also if neurosis isn't a vengeance? What about??
:      And Human Life ???
:      Well I prefer vengeance as the realm of every ecosystem.
 
Vengeance literally means 'vindictiveness' and perhaps even violent
vindictiveness. I do not accept violence in society and never will.
Freud thought we were advancing when we could throw epithets at one
another instead of weapons. Civilization was thought to be advanced
by a resolution not to fight physically. Of course, we are not
really civilized yet I'm afraid.
 
:      Forgive Freud, he was the only one who did not pass through the
:      " eye of the needle " himself ( excuse me use the words of another
:      Jew ) , compare him to Marx, both saw too long ahead their time.
 
I hold a slight contempt for Freud, but none whatsosever for Marx.
Freud's theories are inferior to those of Marx IMHO.
 
:      I think that " America " has always wanted a revenge on Freud and
:      is trying to do a little one, just as some of his " colleagues ".
:      Maybe, except for Clinton, the last four Presidents made a reveange
:      on Marx, don't you think?
 
Americans fear Marxism whereas they have no fear of Freud's doctrines
and even embraced the dogma because it fits with Capitalism and
notions of Christianity/religion. Moreover, America will be taken
over by communists eventually.
 
:      Freud had a few friends and a lot of enemies, just like in our days,
:      we may see around in our " associations ".
:      Talking about Buddhism, I would like to listen to Dalai Lamas'thoughts
:      about Chinese Government. Vengeance or revenge?
 
I hear ya! ;)
 
:      What about vengeance, obsessive thinking,  and hard work ?????
 
For a Type A personality I might agree, but Freud was not a Type A IMHO.
 
:     We are talking about Human Nature and recursivism.
 
Or hermeneutics.
 
:     Imagine if your " number one " had not fall !!!!!!!!
 
If Marx had not become a fallen idol I would have a religious
adherence to the doctrines. In short, 'idols' have to fall.
 
:     Products of the same thing,,, thinking...
:     But, there's always one but, they're different expressions of deep
:     Animal Nature not of thinking , and as far as Freud could see all his
: work     is based on this expressional duality.
 
Freud would have us think that our evolution means nothing in
comparision with our past. He had no bloody idea where civilization
was going. Marx had an idea where we were going.
 
:     Except for 1895 Project.Which I admire a lot, first than any other work.
 
Most of the time I admire what Freud did, but lately I don't admire
his work. I've been reading too many Freud-bashers lately.
 
Kind regards,
Robert
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