That is exactly what I meant. You don’t understand what the church is as an organism. You described various forms of organization, even as more political than spiritual. They carry the term “church” but it’s not what I would call church. 

Just like you don’t understand that people come to Trump, and signal their support by wearing a red hat, for various reasons. They don’t all have the exact same values, not all salivating at his whistles. Not all the same. Not any more than people on the left are all the same. Like not all gay people are the same. Not all black people the same. Not all Asians same. 


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> On Feb 11, 2024, at 1:35 PM, Dan Bloom <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> The church?  The world can’t understand it? It is a political behemoth wearing a coat of many colors. it is not A church, but the name of  political power in the name of god.  The church used such political power for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years.  May I suggest the 30 Years War? The Counter Reformation?  May I suggest the battle between the church and the princes in the late Middle Ages?  And the conquest of Christian Europe by Islam?  These examples are just off the top of my head.

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