I don’t know that the research bears out your statement that it’s impossible when losing weight not to lose some muscle — at least when following the regimen I’m currently following.  Again, I’ve gained muscle mass while working out less.  Whatever the case, I’d be very curious how you might do following the Volek and Phinney approach.  

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 8:20 AM, Todd Moody <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Hello Jim. It's been a while (a long while) since I've attempted to execute that kind of formal control of macros, so I can't really answer your question. On the subject of protein, I recall how Amadeus Schmidt used to make the case here, a very long time ago, that little protein needs to be consumed, due to the body's incredible efficiency at recycling. At the time, I mostly ignored his arguments. Now I've come to the view that Amadeus was right. It's very difficult not to get enough protein if you are getting enough food in general. 
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> Again, the SpudFit guy was the white crow for me. I expected him to lose a lot of muscle mass eating only potatoes. He did lose some, of course. It's impossible to lose over 100 lbs of weight without losing some muscle, no matter what diet you follow. Legs alone will shed some muscle when they no longer have to carry all that extra weight (Think of the size of the calf muscles on very heavy men). But he didn't lose much, according to his body composition measurements. 
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> In my own experiment, I don't do body composition measurements but I do go to the gym. If I were losing muscle I'd notice it in the form of diminished strength. Since that's not happening, I guess I'm not losing muscle. 
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> My fat intake is extremely low, since as much as possible I add no fat to anything. I don't cook in oil either. The only exceptions to this are when I eat in restaurants, where they tend to put oil in everything. Because of this, I stay out of restaurants as much as possible. 
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> Todd 
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> ----- On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:39 PM, Jim Swayze <[log in to unmask]> wrote: 
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>> Hey Todd! Great to hear from you.
> 
>> Have you ever followed a very low carb, moderate protein, low fat regimen?
>> (Moderate protein = 1.5 to 2.5 daily grams of animal-based protein per
>> reference body weight in kilograms)
> 
>> Jim