From: baron chat <[log in to unmask]>
>however, the role of iodine in
>thyroiditis, at least in this country and many developed countries, is
>overemphasized. and if the report is accurate, on a steady decline.
Do you mean by me? Not many emphasize it.
There are sources that recognize iodine deficiency. Here are some -
http://www.saltinstitute.org/pubstat/levitt1-22.html
For years, we have taken it for granted in this country that our successful
saltiodization campaign of 60-70 years ago had ended the threat of IDD....Last
Fall,researchers at the CDC published an analysis of the NHANES I and NHANES
III data which,among other things, found that about 7% of pregnant American
women were below the safe threshold for iodine consumption.
http://www.planetherbs.com/articles/thyroid.html
The world's largest snack food supplier, Frito-Lay, a division of Pepsico,
does not use iodized salt; presumably neither do any of the other snack food
manufacturers, in part to reduce actual product production costs,
So, if your dietary sources of salt are largely from commercial foods, you
might be iodine deficient. Iodized salt is approximately 0.01% potassium
iodide; one teaspoon of iodized salt provides about 150ug of iodine, about the
real daily adult requirement given 70-80ug intestinal uptake.
Aspirin and other related salicylates as well as anticoagulants like
Warfarin (di-coumerol) increase iodine excretion and can induce mild hypothyroidism;
always inquire of mild hypothyroid patients about aspirin and anticoagulant
use.
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There are also other reasons to consider it. One is the anti-microbal
effect. When I took 6 drops of Lugol's Solution, 4 times a day, it was for this
effect. I can't say it helped, but it was worth the effort. As for the fact I
found it to cause fatigue, that doesn't imply it made me more hypothyroid. As
Dr. Derry explained, if one is on enough thyroid medication to suppress their
TSH, it is not soaked up by the thyroid, and so doesn't affect it. I had no
thyroid production to shut off, that I'm aware of. Also, some health advocates
say that when your body is being cleansed of toxins, this can make you feel
tired. So, you may be right, the fatigue was a serious side effect meaning it
was harmful. But, you could also be wrong.
Here's some discussion of Lugol's iodine and infections -
http://www.altcancer.com/candida_dysbiosis.htm
In 1953 Dr Orian Truss discovered the devastating effects of antibiotics in
an Alabama (USA) hospital. During a hospital round Truss was intrigued by a
gaunt, apparently elderly man who was obviously dying. However, he was only in
his forties and in hospital for four months. No specialist had been able to make
a diagnosis. Out of curiosity Truss asked the patient when be was last
completely well. The man answered that he was well until six months before when he
had cut his finger He had received antibiotics for this. Shortly afterwards he
developed diarrhoea and his health deteriorated. Truss had seen before how
antibiotics cause diarrhoea. It was known that Candida was opportunistic and
thrived in debilitated patients, but now Truss wondered if it might not be the
other way round, that Candida actually caused the debilitated condition.He had
read that potassium iodide solution could be used to treat Candida infestation
of the blood. So he put the patient on six to eight drops of Lugol's solution
four times a day and soon the patient was again completely well.
Soon afterwards he had a female patient with a stuffy nose, a throbbing
headache, vaginitis and severe depression. To his amazement all her problems
immediately cleared with Candida treatment.
Some time later he saw a female patient who had been schizophrenic for six
years with hundreds of electroshock treatments and massive drug dosages. He
started treating the woman for sinus allergies with a Candida vaccine. Soon she
had recovered mentally and physically, and remained well.
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>>when my rheumatologist diagnosed me after my blood results came in, he
>>told me i had hypothyroidism caused by hashimoto's and that it usually
>>runs in the family (and thyroiditis does). in any case, i think
>>patients should be concerned and curious enough about their health to
>ask why or how.
It's nice to know you have a caring doctor. Do you think it's possible, that
they may not really understand Hashimoto's or autoimmunity. How about this -
http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/yersinia.htm
An interesting research study out of Greece, and reported on in the journal
Clinical Microbiology & Infectionhas reported that there is strong evidence of
some sort of caustiverelationship between the bacteria known as Yersinia
enterocoliticainfection, and Hashimoto's thyroiditis.
Yersinia enterocolitica is a type of bacteria, a few strains of whichcan
cause illness in humans. Yersinia enterocolitica bacteria are foundin the fecal
matter of livestock, domesticated and wild animals. Youcan be exposed to
yersinia enterocolitica, therefore, via contaminatedmeats -- especially raw or
undercooked products -- poultry,unpasteurized milk and dairy products, seafood --
and particularlyoysters -- from sewage-contaminated waters and produce
fertilized withraw manure. Foods can also be contaminated by food handlers who havenot
effectively washed their hands before handling food or utensilsused to prepare
food. Improper storage can also contribute tocontamination.
Acute infection reportedly occurs most often in young children, wheresymptoms
are typically fever, abdominal pain, and diarrhea. In olderchildren and
adults, right-sided abdominal pain and fever may be thepredominant symptoms, and
may be confused with appendicitis. In apercentage of cases, complications such
as skin rash, joint pains andarthritic-like symptoms can occur. Until recently,
the major"complication" has been thought to be the performance of
unnecessaryappendectomies, since one of the main symptoms of infection is abdominal pain
of the lower right quadrant.
The CDC estimates that about 17,000 documented cases occur annually in the
USA. It is more common outside the United States.
In this research, investigators studied the prevalence of antibodies
toYersinia enterocolitica in patients with diagnosed Hashimoto'sthyroiditis. What the
researchers found was the the prevalence ofantibodies to yersinia --evidence
of exposure -- was 14 times higher in people with Hashimoto's thyroiditis than
in the control groups.
The researchers concluded that there is strong evidence for
"animmunopathologic causative relationship between Yersinia enterocoliticainfection and
Hashimoto's thyroiditis." They also said that the possible effects of antibiotic
therapies for Hashimoto's should be investigated.
What Can You Do?
If you have been diagnosed with Hashimoto's thyroiditis, and inparticular, if
you have any of the symptoms or risk factors foryersinia exposure, ask your
doctor for a stool test that can detectyersinia enterocolitica. Since many
laboratories do not routinely testfor Y. enterocolitica, it is particularly
important for your doctor tonotify laboratory personnel when infection with this
bacterium issuspected so that special tests can be done. Great Smokies Diagnostic
Labs can do this testing. Specifically, your doctor would need to order the
Comprehensive Digestive Stool Analysis, and specially request the test for
yersinia be added.
If detected, yersinia can be treated by various drugs, including antibiotics
like doxycycline.
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Isn't it interesting that some with chronic fatigue only feel better when
taking doxycycline.
I don't take Lugol's on a regular basis, I don't like the associated fatigue.
I don't know if its trying to cleanse something from my system, or it's just
bad for me. I do know, it has been used as a cure in the past for certain
things. I doubt that its function is limited to the thyroid, something presumed
by most of the medical profession.
>>here you are advocating undifferentiated
>>consumption of something that most probably isn't necessary or helpful.
Not really, just presenting it as an option. Some people need more. I
guess, if some think that microbes can cause rheumatoid arthritis in the joints,
that one should be happy that their doctor gave them Vioxx, and not worry about
a possible anti-microbal solution?
Our scientists don't seem to be as helpful as they should these days. If
there were ways to cure ailments 40 years ago, you know those same ailments are
likely going to be cured today by the same methods.
Some ideas presented go completely against "medical science" today, but they
work.
Is it safe to take Lugol's Solution? Not for everybody. Some people have
strange reactions to it. When I asked Dr. Derry in an email (it's nice he's
kind enough to occasionally answer those) why it might cause fatigue, he said it
didn't make sense since my thyroid was shut off. That might imply, anyone
considering it had better by on a high enough dose of thyroid medication first,
or they will be more likely to have a reaction to it at the thyroid level.
(Which, if they are iodine deficient could be a good thing.) He doesn't know the
answer, but I've wondered if dental mercury causes some of my problems. He
said, "iodine will usually react with and remove excess mercury?" Which means,
it could be moving mercury from the tissues to the bloodstream. Which could
be beneficial.
Lugol's Solution may cure some conditions, it may be safer than Vioxx, but it
does have to be taken with caution.
Skipper
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