Thank you. I was not going to say anything else because of responses riddled with the word you. I discipline myself to not dabble in beliefs and opinions but to work with what I know. I speak using the word "I", what I know to be true for me, and what I do, so on and so forth. I am quite often attacked with YOU would do it to and then it is YOUR choice. Why find what I say I do or I know so offensive? I know NFL sells a lot of product. So much so that I will not shop from them because their website has too much stuff to even go through. I did not say NFL is more or less ruthless at wanting to get information across. I am not offering information to people. I have by word of mouth become a person others seek out and request information from. I am not ruthlessly spreading information. I am definitely not interested in selling information or products that are natural. I know that Arlin should explain how and why he is not his optimal weight and he should be responsible to the consumers, who are looking to this large man, who care whether they can attain a large physique on a raw vegan way of eating. I know my husband and I cannot eat a raw vegan or raw animal diet and gain that kind of weight. I also know my husband is concerned about looking like a skinny vegetarian (the cooked food kind he is familiar with). I know he has a genuine interest in Arlin's experiences with raw vegan and fitness. I know Arlin has not answered the question if he is still practicing this way of eating and he stated he does not have time because of his family and business. Again, his business is selling books and products regarding raw veganism, as well as other products. I care that food has become so commercialized. I care that so many around me are ill due to the "food" they eat. I prefer to live simply, non-ruthlessly, and share what I know to be true for me. I also am honest when I say that I practice a raw diet and that we are not 100%. I own it and am responsible for it and I am not even selling anything to anyone. Walk in Harmony and Leave a Light Footprint, Kendra Whitson -----Original Message----- From: Raw Food Diet Support List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ingrid Bauer/Jean-Claude Catry Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 8:22 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: The Garden Diet was Arlin's weight gain * Your choice. > Just because you choose not to charge and they do doesn't make them any > less > or more ruthless then you in your wanting to get information across. > Simply or > complicated who cares as long as correct information gets out there for > others to know? > i care ! because i have seen , way too often, that the best informations that could really adress problems , trasnsform into a commercial venture where the focus is on not sharing informations or point of views but selling dreams ( it is hard to sell simple reality). * ---SNIP--- i will welcome feed back about how this message get received . jean-claude