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Kabir Njaay <[log in to unmask]>
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Habib,

The person who divulged that to you was right; the ill-treatment of the
Falashas in Israel has been widely documented. I have both read and seen
documentaries on TV about their treatment in Israel.

Their fate has interested me ever since their mass evacuation from secret
air-strips in the late 80's. "Operation Solomon," as it was dubbed,
witnessed the evacuation of some 20,000  Falashas.

Their ill-treatment in the army and Israeli society at large is an open
secret. There has even been demonstrations, some bordering on riot, to
protest their ill-treatment because of their skin colour. Our
"intellectual/philosopher" friend, so versed on Jews and Zionism cannot
claim ignorance concerning their discrimination by the Zionist society.

Oh yes, that's the Islam I remember growing up, especially during Koriteh
and Tobaski. Broadcast live on radio, the Imam used to ask the congregation
to join him in praying for the well-being of all Muslims, Christians, and
humanity at large, in that order; it is as if I can still hear him.

Muslims and Christians lived peacefully side by side and and the youth
cultivated friendships across the invisible religious divide. In the home I
was born at half-die we had a common fence with a home lived in
by Christians. My cousin had her day-care - "endu" -  with one of those
Christian families whiles I had mine a stone's throw on the same street at
Aunti Kodou Loum's shop, Tony loum's aunt. We were many, both Muslim and
Christian playing in her shop all day and running errands for her. None
cared what God the other worshipped. Her only son even converted to Islam
later on. But what would someone schooled in hate know about that?

Hear him the other day invite on a discussion on "Pan-Africanism".

Someone who supports the claim and confiscation of Arab lands just because
some of his Jewish forebears lived there among Arabs thousands of years ago
but advise Zimbabweans whose land was stolen just over a hundred years ago
by total strangers to migrate? What kind of a Pan-Africanist is that?

I read (about 20 years ago) the book he mentioned here yesterday, "The Case
of Israel" and wondered why he even mentioned it. The book did not support
the Zionist cause at all, on the contrary, Garaudy debunks their claim. In
it he traced British attempts to find a "homeland" for the Jews after WW II,
Uganda being among the first places that was suggested and explored but due
to many adverse circumstances, the idea was dropped.

Buharry has indeed exposed "unnyi" him. I read this, I read that - what use
is it when you can't even think?

Regards,

Kabir.





On 5/30/07, Habib Ghanim <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Kabir
> I was in shock when an Ethiopian Christain protester a couple of years ago
> told me that the Falashas jews of Ehtiopian origin and non white are still
> required to be cleansed ( physically take a shower at the entrance of thier
> synagues ) because they had black skin.
> the army was not supposed to accept blood donated by the falashas for
> other white jews as they were unclean
> and whenever there was conflict the israeli commander were ordered to put
> the falashas on the first/front line as thier lives were less valuable
> unbelievable but not many knew this
> by the way he had documents to proove this . it was a couple of years ago
> so I do not know where to locate them
>
> I am by no means saying tha the arab s are better they are some of the
> violators of such atrocities in different ways like in Dafur
>
> I remember in Banjul the first thing our Banjul Imam Bah ( may his soul
> rest in peace) prayed for was peace for all
> best regards
> Habib
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 15:54:03 +0200> From: [log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Zionism as a Racist Ideology> To: [log in to unmask]> > It seems the Falashas Mura are less 'Jewish' than their paler brethren
> and> the right of (return) immigration therfore not as automatic?> > Squalor
> and shrinking hope for Ethiopian Jews:>
> http://africa.reuters.com/world/news/usnL27265224.html> > Regards,> >
> Kabir.> > > > On 5/29/07, Momodou Buharry Gassama < [log in to unmask]>
> wrote:> >> > Cornelius,> > For one who acknowledges that Gambia and Gambian
> fora> > are not significant in determining policy, you seem to be spending
> an> > awful lot of time trying to defend the indefensible. Gambians on this>
> > forum are more sober and sophisticated than the half-baked American and> >
> other gullible audiences who swallow Zionist propaganda hook, line and> >
> sinker. So relax, take a cool bottle of coke, look in the mirror, smile> >
> and get ready to defend your position on Zionism or go peddle your> >
> Zionist propaganda elsewhere. In this vein, answer the following> >
> questions (not through links to Zionist propaganda sites because we are> >
> sophisticated and can see through the mistruths, half-truths etc.)> > about
> Zionism and tell us your opinion or views. You wrote in a reply> > to Habib
> that Zionism is not a racist policy. In your opinion,> >> > 1. What is
> Zionism?> > 2. What are its prinipal tenets?> > 3. Why is it not racist?> >
> 4. Why do the Jews have a claim to the land of Palestine including the> >
> part dubbed Israel?> > 5. How is Israel a democracy?> > 6. Do the
> Palestinians with Israeli citizenship have the same rights> > as Jews living
> in the same land? If not, why?> > 7. Why do "Jews" who were not born
> anywhere near Palestine and Israel> > have an automatic right to have
> Israeli citizenship and move to Israel> > whilst Palestinians whose land was
> confiscated do not have a right to> > return to their confiscated lands? Is
> this right or fair? If so, tell> > us why.> > 8a. Why has Israel not
> respected or implemented UN resolutions against> > it but propagates
> together with its puppet, the US, for the respect and> > implementation of
> resolutions against other countries?> > 8b. If Israel refuses to implement
> resolutions against it, should> > other countries be forced to comply with
> the implementation of UN> > resolutions? Why?> > 9. After Olmert publicly
> claimed Israeli possession of nuclear weapons> > (after decades of lies),
> why should Israel not be forced to comply with> > the same laws and
> guidelines being forced on Iran, North Korea etc? If> > not, why?> > 10.
> According to international law, why should Iran not pursue its> > nuclear
> program? What are the basis for the illegal and hypocritical> > stance
> against the country?> > 11. Why should the US (the only country to have used
> nuclear weapons> > against another based for the most part on racist
> considerations),> > Britain, Israel, India, Pakistan, Russia and France have
> nuclear> > weapons and not Iran? On what basis?> > 12. How were the Jews
> treated by Arabs before Israel was created? How> > did the Europeans treat
> them? How do the Jews treat the Arabs today?> > Compare the way the Jews
> were teated by the Arabs and the way they are> > treating the Arabs today.>
> > 13. Is criticizing "Israel" and "Zionism" anti-semiticism and racism?> >
> If it is, on what basis? Is criticizing Arabs and Muslims by calling> > them
> "fanatics", "terrorists" etc. anti-semitism and racism? If yes, on> > what
> basis?> > 14. Did the founders of Israel use terror tactics such as
> bombings> > etc.?> > 15. Does Israel practice Apartheid? If not, can you
> prove it?> > 16. If I come to house and steal your tv, stereo, money etc.
> because> > somebody in Mongolia gave me told me that I can take them, am I>
> > entitled to your property? If not, why should Israel be entitled to> >
> Palestinian land because the Europeans with the their racist and> >
> imperialist tendencies sat in London, Washington etc. and decided to> > draw
> up a list of countries including Uganda to give to Jews for what> >
> Europeans did to them? Why should Palestinians pay for European guilt?> >
> 17. Should someone be punished for a crime committed by someone else?> > Is
> it in line with legality and natural justice? If no, why does Israel> >
> punish the families of suicide bombers by bulldozing their houses when> > in
> most cases the families are not even aware that the bombers were> > planning
> to do what they did. How can you justify this?> > 18. Who has actually wipe
> a country from the map? Is it Israel or is> > it Iran?> > 19. Are the
> Europeans who live in today's Israel the descendants of> > the original Jews
> who lived there? If not, why should they have a claim> > to the land? Just
> assuming that "are" the descendants, why should they> > have a right to
> reclaim land they lost more than two thousand years> > ago? Is this logical?
> If it is, do the native Indians in America have a> > right to claim their
> land from Europeans who stole their it and expel> > them to Europe? Do the
> Aborigines have a right to expel the British> > unwanted criminals who were
> shipped to Australia as punishment back to> > Britain? If these people do
> not have a right to expel the thieves who> > stole their land just a few
> hundred years ago, why should "Jews" have a> > right to reclaim land lost
> thousands of years ago?> > 20. Is Irael committing genocide and ethnic
> cleansing in the occupied> > territories? Was genocide and ethnic cleansing
> committed in the former> > Yugoslavia? Was genocide and ethnic cleansing
> committed in Rwanda? How> > do the practices practiced in these countries
> differ from what Israel> > is doing in the occupied terroritories?> >> >
> Take your time, answer these questions and convince us.> >> > Buharry.> >> >
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