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A great response Joe. Thanks. Actually, it in the spirit of examining a
collective mindset and how the collective body embrace the secular
construct. I am providing a small examination as per some discussions I
heard with former students of this two institution.
I agree, many within the Gambia elites patronize the Julbrew, this a fact.
However, the discussion is relevant in highlighting a road some deemed as
the catalyst for framing offspring. I know, Armitage former students are
overwhelming tag with the 'mansuwan kunda' wine brewing thing. With the
'Dry Dance' i heard of the ring leaders who use to organise the night dance
'party' which came under attack from students, it was later stop. But many
other institutions played a major role..you did well by highlighting some
interesting stuffs. Thanks
Suntou


On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Suntou, thanks for your take on the issue. However, don't you think you
> are according more blame on the two insitutions and sparing the rest of
> Gambian high schools, secondary schools, and the University as well?
> Julbrew/Banjul Breweries has been known to run out of stock in a country
> that is 85% to 90% Muslim. Who is drinking all that alcohol? Certainly not
> the 10% with almost 100% not knowing where Armitage is located. The output
> of Julbrew far out number the combined Daakaa output in the country. So,
> who has contributed more to the consumption of alcohol in the country?
> Also, have you not seen the students of SAHS, GHS, Muslim High, Nusrat,
> etc. at the clubs and beaches tilting the bottle and smoking weed among
> other things? How about the rate of teenage pregnancies in the urban areas?
> I would venture that what happened/is happening in the urban areas far
> outweigh what went/or is going on at say, Amitage. SAHS used to go to
> Armitage every year and at the time the place was quite restrictive for
> some of us. When we have a dance, it ended up being attended by the
> outsiders for the most part and we played cat and mouse with the Principals
> trying to play around the curfew, with the local student heads to report
> local students that ventured out pass the deadline or tried to join the
> party.
>
> Let us also not forget that the Gambian state is a secular state and the
> constitution is the people. I do not think secularity is the issue. Are you
> trying to push for a Theocracy? Because due to our multi religion, tribe,
> and other persuasions I think a secular state is best for us and each to be
> free to practice their religion without hindrance. You live in the UK, do
> you know how many Gambians who are Muslims drink alcohol for instance and
> they did not pick up the habit in the Gambia or an Armitage? And so, like
> many of our affairs, we are masters at looking the other way.
>
> I will extend the conversation to venture into prostitution in the Gambia.
> Our target of choice for blame is "The Foreigners" (Sierra Leoneans,
> Senegalese, Nigerians, Bissau Guineans, etc.). We all know that a great
> deal of prostitutes in the Gambia are our fellow Gambians (you and my
> neighbor, relative, etc.). There are various kinds of prostitutes, female,
> male, open, covert, etc. and Gambians have the lion share.
>
> I will also add the case of homosexuality. Is there any place in our globe
> that humans habitat and you do not have homosexuals? There isn't. So, why
> do Africans pretend that we never had homosexuals in Africa,
> and specifically, Gambia. How many of us can honestly say we do not know of
> a homosexual, growing up in Gambia? And so, who are we fooling? Yes, the
> culture was/is hostile to homosexuals, driving them underground. However,
> we have some that came out even back in the 70s and 80s with their drumming
> sessions and entertainment of their counterparts in say Senegal and to this
> day they are homosexuals where ever they are in the world. Homosexuality is
> not a European creation but part of humanity. There was time that white and
> black marriages were prohibited/frowned upon in the UK, US, Rhodesia, SA,
> and countless other places around the world and many black folks were
> murdered for it. Today interracial marriage is a fact of life, and so will
> we come to a stage that accepting our brothers and sisters for who they are
> will be a fact of life. A question for you, if you have a son/daughter that
> told you they feel different from their apparent gender, what will you say
> or do to them? Yes, you can wish it away, pray on it all you want, but you
> had easier raise a person from the dead than make them feel otherwise. I
> have heard Gambians that swore by the heavens that they will use their bare
> hands and kill that child of they reveal their humanity as such. So, Yaya
> is not the only one out there. However, I will put it to those Gambians
> that, that is just talk. It is very hard to look your child in the face and
> kill them just because of their sexual orientation. Those that will follow
> through can go ahead as long as they know they will rot in jail for the
> rest of their life and as faith would have it, if a man, may be forcefully
> made another man's wife. That is also a fact of life in jail too. Daaw Be
> Mbokou! :-)!
>
> Joe
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 00:33:36 +0100
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [G_L] Dry dance and Alcohol : Gambia College and Armitage
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>
>  The secularising process.
>
> http://suntoumana.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/bastion-of-secular-gambiadry-dance-and.html
>
> Suntou
>
>
>
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