Ngorr, thanks for your comments.  Did you just come to this conclusion post
911 and the war on terrorism like most folks?  Taking a human life is never
right, we all know that.  What I am asking you to try to do is to forget
morality, philosophy, and all good neighborly rules of conduct, and you were
born and grew up in the Palestinian environment at the moment.  That is
where I'm coming from.  We, who do not know how it feels to be in their
position have the luxery to sit in comfort and analyze their condition, but
what we fail to do is really sit and ponder the fact that if the ultimate
human goal is self preservation and longevity, what then could drive persons
to blow themselves up to achieve an outcome?  When we do that, we would
begin to understand their pain.  The Palestinians did not blow themselves up
for 35 years.  This is an act of a desperate people that cannot bear their
pain any longer and I refused to be suckered into this pro-Israeli world
attitude.  I respect your opinion, but I respectfully disagree with your
focus on innocent persons being murdered by the suicide bombings.  What is
the difference between strapping and igniting a bomb in public and dropping
a missile in public?  The Palestinian condition is not about whether their
means to liberate themselves is the right way, the decent way, and all the
nice ways they can conduct their defense.  It is about a people trying to
exist with dignity, same as when Patrick Henry, said "Give me liberty or
death".  Ngorr, we are both human a I respect your right to life.  However,
if say, your family members persistently takes away life form my family
members, you better believe that all is game from my end.  Occupation
precedes liberation.

Chi Jaama

Joe Sambou


>From: Ngorr Ciise <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: George W. Sadat
>Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 17:58:03 +0000
>
>In response to Sambou,
>
>Sambou: <<You see, where you sit depends on where your feet are planted.  I
>think we, in the comfort of our peaceful environments should really pause
>for a minute and try to put ourselves in the daily livings of a people
>under
>siege and no hope for any future.  Is Nelson Mandela and the ANC
>"Terrorist"?  Was'nt their defense against Apartheid done by "Any Means
>Necessary"?>>
>
>The question becomes: did Nelson Mandela ever send out teenage African
>girls
>on suicide bombing missions - i mean premeditated murders on civilian
>targets, which included pregnant women, babies, children and the vulnerable
>who have little or no say in the direction and implementation of Apartheid?
>Supposing you are a Palestinian under seige by the IDF in the Occupied
>Terrorities. Further, let it also be assumed that you have a 17 year-old
>daugther. Are you saying that in the name of freeing yourself from Israeli
>subjugation you are willing to let your teenage daugther "matyred" as a
>suicide bomber to go into Israel and engage in an act that equates with the
>premeditated murder of innocent Israelis who have little or no say in the
>direction of the current crisis? Are you saying - in extremis - that it
>might OK one day for Gambian teenagers to be exhorted by the Opposition to
>become suicide bombers in the event that Yaya resorts to what Sharon is
>currently engaged in? You need to clarify youself.
>
>Suicide bombing, regardless of how one wishes to slice/explain the
>rationale
>behind it, is barbaric, uncivilised and cowardly. Each suicide bomber that
>goes out and target the civilian populace in Israel goes a long in morally
>undermining the Palestinian cause - a cause which the vast majority of the
>peoples of this diverse universe we inhabit identify themselves with as
>legitimate and just, and worth our full support. One need not live under
>the
>Israeli seige to understand the plight and predicament of palestinians; you
>can be residing as far afield as sedate and tranquil rural England to under
>the plight of the Palestinians. All one needs is to be a human being with a
>conscience: an affirmation of common humanity with your fellow man and a
>leap of imagination that grants you the powers to imagine oneself at the
>receiving of the abuse that the Palestinians are constantly are subjected
>to
>in their own land. To make a good example, take the heinous incidents of
>April 2000 in the Gambia. Most people who were moved by that tragedy did so
>not because they were direct or indirect victims of those heinous crimes
>against the students. Or because they happen to be living inside the Gambia
>or are Gambians. They are simply human beings with a conscience. This is
>the
>same context for world sympathy with the Palestinian plight.
>
>Yet, that can never make suicide bombing a right thing to resort to; or,
>indeed, something we ought to condone simply because we realised that they
>are aggreived. Suicide bombing by teenage girls is a wrong and cannot help
>further the legitimate cause of Palestinians in the eyes of civilised
>peoples. Suicide bombing - regardless of the motivation behind it - is
>premeditated murder. It is inexcusable and reprehensible.
>
>
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