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suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
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Kejau
I think for you to earn respect, you should respect others first. You are
making it impossible for folks to take you seriously. If this is how
reckless and irrational you are conducting yourself now, in 2013, I wonder
what was the level senior officers like you were back in 1994, 1995, 1996
etc?
It is a total lack of sense to throw jibes around without consciously
analysing the reppercussion of your statements. Joe made some serious
observations, but it seems you lack confidence in yourself. My brother, be
yourself and use a cool head to look at issues.
The London Conference/Congress brought over 60 Gambians from all
backgrounds and ethnicity together for a day. Many people spoke openlly, if
that is wrong, then I wonder what sort of grouping you are calling to.
SOmetimes, be serious and restraint. I felt bad making this statements, but
since If I do it privately, you may eventually allude to it here, I may
better say it in the open.
There was Malick Kah, James Bahoum, Abdoulie Jobe, Jayne, Colly, Chonghan,
Sanusi Owen, Sarjo Bayang and others whose inputs in Gambians matters is
noteworthy. If you disregard all those brothers along with many other
ordinary Gambians, then you need help.
You are making it impossible for anyone to take you seriously. Even Sedia
Jatta of PDOIS may not approve your random conducts and unconstructive
behavior. Please, for God shake, don't attack without proper thinking.
Suntou

On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:47 PM, kejau <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>   Joe.
> GCC seem to me the CCG coalition for change spelled backwards with UDP
> stalwarts incorporated. What a joke? But it is on them.
> London congress? What congress, of which party or single group? Do they
> know the difference between a congress and conference?  I do not think so!
> Kejau.
>
>
>  Sent from Samsung Mobile
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Bamba sering Manka Mass <[log in to unmask]>
> Date:
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [G_L] The Gambia: Raleigh and the urgency of political change
> - and we are supposed to play dead!
>
>
>  Uncle Mathew,
> It is indeed a brilliant idea that you've suggested there but don't you
> think your idea had so much US based participants than making it more broad
> based. Remembering we do have a lot of Gambian concentrations in Sweden,
> Spain, Germany, France where in your proposal, there is no single name or
> group mentioning. I would support and second your motion once it includes a
> broad based Gambian participation.
> All the names suggested are active Gambians and am sure any of them can
> willingly serve their country and her people in our efforts to emancipate
> our Nation from the clutches of tyranny but lets have more Gambians in your
> proposed steering committee which should include active people who can
> mobilise a lot of Gambian support for our struggle.
> We need motivators not just names to fill the numerous blank spaces. And
> remember
> NO CYBER WORRIORS! We need ready to serve and active Gambians.
> Otherwise I think you've come up with a brilliant idea
>
>
> king
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:16:23 +0200
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: FW: The Gambia: Raleigh and the urgency of political change -
> and we are supposed to play dead!
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>  Thanks Joe.
> Domo dah kanja! You are spot on, once again, in spotting out the not so
> obvious!
> The disinguenity  is so very obvious though.
> More later...
> Kejau
>
>  Sent from Samsung Mobile
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]>
> Date:
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [G_L] FW: The Gambia: Raleigh and the urgency of political change
> - and we are supposed to play dead!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: [log in to unmask]
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: The Gambia: Raleigh and the urgency of political change - and we
> are supposed to play dead!
> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 20:20:18 -0500
>
> Nice try, but I cannot help but to point out the slight of hand here and
> am sure many saw the same. If Raleigh is Super Kanja then GCC is Domoda.
> Now, how were they mixed in together and we end up with Domoda? Not
> withstanding the lack of women in this scheme which was pointed out by
> someone, it is also quite apparent that "our saviors" end up Steering Us,
> Leading Us, and Advising the drivers and leaders of the steered and the
> led. I thought their's was not about leadership? Yet, every where you turn
> you see their hustle all over the place. How did Sidat and Amadou end up
> steering the herd and Mathew and Morro "Advising" them? I even see Buba
> dangling on some Banghas. This scheme is more rigged than a "Konge Picho
> Mboloo". Matthew and his gang must change suppliers, for they have been
> sold some bad stuff that is messing with their brain. The last time I
> checked, Raleigh was not GCC and even Che Kebbeh had a seat at the table.
> As of last week, I was also informed that those who went to Raleigh were
> about to meet to form a Steering Committee about the way forward. How come
> then Matthew and his Gang scurried up their list ahead of Raleigh? Is
> Raleigh at par with GCC or better yet, is Raleigh Subordinate to GCC? GCC
> seem to have an internal problem for many a times it sounds like Matthew is
> talking and not a group. The below nonsensical list is one of those
> instances it seems. It is also very cloudy as to where CCG ends and where
> GCC begin, for you see the same foxes appearing and disappearing on both
> sides of the fence. We have not yet gotten power and we are this dangerous,
> I wonder what this bunch will lay on Gambians if we fool around and have
> them lord over us. We seem to have too many damn Chiefs and very few
> Indians. The other funny thing is to read them appointing themselves
> instead of their fellow stakeholders appointing them. Now Gambians, look at
> the below list (except for a few) and tell me if it does not resemble more
> like a Kabudou list, Stout, as in Guiness included! True to form, Matthew
> is basically saying that the Raleigh folks stole the ideas of GCC, which is
> Matthew's mouthpiece and so Matthew will fix the darn thing and save all
> and sundry from "Divisiveness" - I have been hearing a lot about that word
> and it sounds very familiar. Is Matthew associating such a "Bad" word with
> Raleigh? Blasphemy! Sankanu is not the exception in out lot you know! See
> the below culled from Maafanta.
>
> The Gambia: Raleigh and the urgency of political change
>
> By Mathew K Jallow
>
> It is an integral part of Gambian history. The Raleigh Conference, that
> is. Not history as in things past. For Raleigh is still ongoing, still
> under a slow, painful birth; still emerging out of the dark shadow of
> Gambia’s tragic story; and still being crafted into Gambia’s political
> reality. One can rightly argue that Gambia is exceedingly messy both in its
> politics as well as its socio-economics, even laden with smoldering
> bitterness beneath the surface tranquility, and some Gambians are often
> divided by the familiar nonsensicality of their individual illusions of
> intellectual prowess, but there is nothing idealistic about aspirating for
> a Gambia that is free from the vicissitudes of corruption and political
> tyranny. The right to liberty and freedom is an instinct of nature, an
> essential element of being human, and its supremacy must never be
> compromised or subjected to wimps of despots and political manipulation.
> The meticulous planning that went into making Raleigh a reality reflects
> the pathetic political conundrum that has wrecked havoc on the Gambia’s
> cultural cohesiveness and moral rectitude, which for generations had
> defined the true Gambian spirit. The surprising 1994 coup, which initially
> generated a groundswell of support, irreversibly devastated the Gambia and
> led to the ongoing social disarray and political confusion, but not even
> the cruelty of the reptilian bloodlust of its aftermath could confound
> Gambians’ sense of nationalism and unparalleled patriotism.
>
>
> The true meaning of Raleigh was, therefore, to arouse our jealously
> guarded nationalistic fervor for a cause greater than our individuals’
> grossly inflated senses of our worth. But Raleigh also questioned the depth
> to which Gambians would go, the breadth to which they will venture, and the
> extent to which they will sacrifice in order to restore dignity to a
> brutalized country. Raleigh as an event of historical significance may now
> belong to the past, yet its aims and visions lives on in our collective
> commitment to a free Gambia. The Resolutions that came out of Raleigh are a
> mature and balanced approach with potentials for success in lieu of the
> Gambia’s notoriously partisan electoral system. To further foil prospects
> to alter political landscape, Yahya Jammeh, over the past several years
> completely stripped the Gambian military of its intellectual capacity and
> moral fortitude to force regime change in Gambia. But, Raleigh has come to
> signify the opening of an avenue that will carry Gambia towards a new and
> just political dispensation. And Raleigh crafted a Resolution that is
> striking in many ways, but particularly because it called for the formation
> of a Steering Committee. From personal knowledge, different Gambian groups
> and individuals support different individuals to head a united civil
> society front, nonetheless, we have a unique opportunity to end the
> unnecessary bickering over this issue.
>
>
> As it stands now, the new and still forming Gambia Consultative Council
> (GCC), which has the most comprehensive list of Gambian organizations and
> individuals involved in the liberation struggle, originally planned to hold
> voting of an Executive Committee to lead the Gambian struggle, but the
> recent UK Congress and the Raleigh Conference, have together preempted much
> of GCC’s original plans and forced the organization’s rethinking of a new
> direction. It is worth noting that prior to the Raleigh Resolution; GCC had
> concluded that the divisiveness that could result from voting for its
> Executive Committee was unnecessary and preventable. GCC, therefore,
> proposed the formation of a Steering Committee, which incidentally the
> Raleigh Conference proposed as well. Now that a common ground has been
> created between Raleigh and GCC, we should collectively agree that Gambians
> needs to put our best feet out to lead the effort in regaining our country.
> The Gambians who GCC proposes to lead our collective effort have earned the
> right, not because they are better educated, but because they have better
> and more broadly recognizable resumes. In this ongoing struggle, GCC
> recognizes the selfless efforts of every Gambian, but in order to achieve
> the success we desire, a leadership organizational structure is required
> and the formation of a Steering Committee is an appropriate beginning. In
> recognizing the brilliant ideas coming out of Raleigh, the GCC proposes the
> formation of such a leadership structure as follows:
>
>
> Steering Committee
>
> Dr Momodou Lamin Sedat Jobe
>
> Bakary B Darboe
>
> Dr. Abdoulaye Saine
>
> Hon. Ousainou Darboe
>
> Dr. Amadou Scattred Janneh
>
> Adviser of Steering Committee
>
> Buba Baldeh advises Dr. Sedat Jobe
>
> Abdoulie Jobe advises Bakary B Darboe
>
> Ebrima Sankareh advises Dr. Abdoulaye Saine
>
> Karamba Touray advises Hon. Ousainou Darboe
>
> Ndey Tapha-Sosseh advises Dr. Amadou Janneh
>
> Committees
>
> Finance/Fundraising Committee
>
> International Campaign Committee
>
> Diaspora/Homeland Unification Committee
>
> Meetings, Protests and Demonstration Campaign Committee
>
> Information and Education Committee (tv, radio, print and online media etc)
>
> Gambia Crime Investigation Committee
>
> Committee Heads
>
> Banka Manneh-STGDP/CSAG
>
> Alkali Conteh-GDAG
>
> Pa Coach Samba Jow-DUGA
>
> Fatou Jow Manneh
>
> Saihou Mballow-MDD
>
> Demba Dem-Netherland Group
>
> Yankuba Darboe-lawyer
>
> Advisers of Steering Committee
>
> Sidi Sanneh
>
> Mathew K Jallow
>
> Nothing in the above proposal is set in stone. The form of the structure
> the campaign will take is dependent on the general consensus of all
> Gambians. To this effect, Gambians in the struggle are invited to sign up
> as members of the united Gambian organization the Gambia Consultative
> Council. Those interested in joining the broadest membership of Gambians
> organizations and individuals are encouraged to: [log in to unmask] Mathew K Jallow, Yusupha Jow or Fatou Sagnia.
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