Malanding
Such anecdotal awareness raising levels or political vigilance are all
over. Depending when and where one want to back arguments one way or
another. Asked Demba Baldeh my mom talking - is like is that all Gambians
are.
The fact remains even if those are milestones to be happy if - such a rate
is immaterial. At that rate I will be in my grave for over 1k years before
functioning democracy knock doors in Gambia.
Sure no easy answers - but please share with us what you think we could do
to take down Yahya as a prerequisite to our fixes. I insist on it because I
think each of us by now should have something we believe should/could work.
Expressions of dissatisfactions about Yahya is not enough.
Is about time we collapse our thoughts into concrete plans of action. Pick
up the best of the bunch and move on........
If for nothing else I want to going back to resume drinking attaya under
the neemi-tree. Wow I truly missed that!
Burama
On Tuesday, December 2, 2014, Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Burama,
> That Yahya must go has always been the singular purpose of the struggle.
> Our problem had be the how? A silver bullet or a thousand cuts? Most got
> stuck with the idea that a singular approach(say NADD) or method (election)
> must be in place before anything can be done, but failed to notice that
> much can be achieved by a plethora of little players. What started as a
> temporary occupation of the Gambian Embassy in Washington DC by DUGA the
> led to the now infamous New York City siege! The current EU-Yahya stand off
> did not come by accident but the result of a dedicated few, working behind
> the scene in Brussels. Whether it is Freedom - Fair and Balance or Gainako
> or Fatu or Kairo, or Kibaro Radio the truth is, Mr. Jammeh does not have
> the monopoly over Gambian media. Days ago a I was pleasantly surprised by
> an older woman visiting me, when she asked, if I can tune to Freedom Radio.
> Please do not tell this to Pa Nderry Mbye:) If the recent debate on the
> supplementary budget is something to go by Mr. Jammeh will have a much less
> Happier New Year. That alone is something to boast about after 20yrs.
>
> Malanding
>
>
> Our problem On 12/2/2014 12:34 PM, Burama Jammeh wrote:
>
> Malanding
>
> From the past 20 years or even beyond - do you think we have a
> collective singular purpose in our supposed struggle?
>
> In an ant colony the purpose of a task is one - at least from my basic
> science classes on such social animal.
>
> I also think a good chunk of our problem
> sit at that junction - participants having different goals/purposes.
>
> I maybe wrong!
>
> Burama
>
> On Tuesday, December 2, 2014, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>> wrote:
>
>> Malanding
>>
>> Not sure if I should be apologized. My position was and is - is an easy
>> rhetoric and probably comforting to audiences Yahya must go and go first -
>> but a political plausible process hardly exist. A coup can do it but I hope
>> we done get that - it will likely draw us back another 20 years.
>>
>> Many I listened to arguing Yahya must go, go first, hardly
>> advance suggestions how that can done but simply saying what they hope or
>> wish to see. Those 2 are not good enough!
>>
>> Good analogous about the ants - but maybe difficult for some including
>> myself to contextualize to our current predicaments. I'm pressing this
>> not for ultra-motive reasons - simply want ideas come out and hopefully we
>> can someday agree on the best of them and move on.
>>
>> Please contextualize the process to what we trying to do - either Yahya
>> go first or directly go for broader democratic dispensation. So we can see
>> my, yours and others role right away.
>>
>> I don't have to agree - but that's not the point and not even important
>> at this stage. I want to know how Malanding think we could down Yahya.
>>
>> Burama
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 2, 2014, Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Burama,
>>> Sorry if you feel that we misunderstood you. Again we must use that as a
>>> learning moment.
>>>
>>> As to how we must proceed? I once wrote about the struggle to be
>>> analogous to tiny ants carrying a large carcass to the anthill on the
>>> forest floor. First they each hold on to the part they can and drag. While
>>> chaotic and sometime ineffective at first, the group slowly finds their
>>> grove and with much efficiency the carcass eventually gets to the den. The
>>> lesson here is:
>>> 1. They all seem to agree that the carcass is worth taking. In our case
>>> this fellow must go!
>>> 2. No one questions to wisdom/motive of others (at least so it seem) -
>>> This is where we wastes most of out valuable
>>> 3. Every ant give the best of their ability, aka "not what your country
>>> can do for you but what you can do for your country, JRK".
>>> 4. This process is no different from "death by thousand cuts".
>>>
>>> Malanding
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/2/2014 11:31 AM, Burama Jammeh wrote:
>>>
>>> Malanding
>>>
>>> I'm surprised my position is so misunderstood.
>>>
>>> Yahya is 'A Problem'.
>>>
>>> Our problems ('The Problem') created Yahya. If this is denied and/or
>>> not understood - that in itself is a larger problem.
>>>
>>> Now how do we solve the problem. This is like 'a double unknown
>>> variable equation in maths such as a quadratic. Solve for X first and
>>> plugging the known value of X you solve for Y.
>>>
>>> I equally want Yahya go and even go first. But that's what I want.
>>> This is different from what I can do. It's also different from what's
>>> politically possible. Neither America nor any other members of the free
>>> world will support us on 'Yahya go first' agenda. They will on a broad
>>> based democracy agenda.
>>>
>>> I can't even risk visiting Gambia. Many like me are expressing views
>>> because they are here or outside Gambia. We can't take down Yahya on
>>> 'Fas-a-Fas'
>>>
>>> Those back home are facilitating dictatorship, not necessarily they
>>> like it but as a means of living. We can argue whether they got that right
>>> or wrong - but that's what it is!
>>>
>>> A political plausible approach is to seek political leverage that
>>> demand democratic changes. Failures and resistances are met with
>>> consequences that will squeeze him. Eventually he will yield. In that our
>>> influence go up. Down the road is likely to defeat Yahya elections. Also
>>> likely the replacement will notice our abilities and do better. More
>>> importantly this comes with increased citizen capacities for sustainability.
>>>
>>> All that aside - am ok Yahya go. Tell us how and by us. Not what we
>>> wish.
>>>
>>> Burama
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 2, 2014, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Malanding
>>>>
>>>> Will get back with you - bit tight up!
>>>>
>>>> Burama
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, December 2, 2014, Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Burama,
>>>>> Good to see that you come to where most of us are, that is Yahya is
>>>>> THE PROBLEM, and can not be ignored.
>>>>>
>>>>> Malanding
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/2/2014 9:19 AM, Burama Jammeh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Our brothers and sisters are forced into free labor at Yahya's
>>>>> numerous farms.
>>>>>
>>>>> Last Tobaski our people were denied prayers at dates, times and
>>>>> places of their choosing. This is a cause for 'Fatwa' - Banding Drammeh and
>>>>> Imam Fatty choose to say nothing but we all follow in similar silence.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is an addition to the growing list of modern day slavery
>>>>> currently practiced in Gambia.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do we stop at expressing our frustrations. Why couldn't we agree
>>>>> on something - perfect or or not? Are we truly serious about Gambia or we
>>>>> are in it for something else.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reasons for us to wage this war in unison far more out weighs
>>>>> any sectional interests we all may bear.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let's act before is too late or at least avoid further harm
>>>>> to our people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Burama
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, December 1, 2014, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1420528741535877?view=permalink&id=1426271894294895
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Burama
>>>>>>
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