Wow! Nice piece bro.


On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Pa. Saikou Kujabi <
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> Mawdo Demba, "Angkhaddi" misiku a-wellaani deh"
>
> You are not only mixing coconuts and oranges, you are absolutely dishonest
> by equating what you call "Dr. Saine's daring to stand up with his friends
> (the OJs) in the NAAd debacle", whatever that means, to Dr. Janneh's well
> calculated, personal-ambition-driven move to join a regime that has at the
> time, repeatedly raped democracy in our motherland, slaughtered babies on
> the streets of Banjul, many others died mysteriously, or disappeared, and
> many more. If what you alleged Dr. Saine did was in fact true, I very
> proudly say Kudos to him, for that was a perfect democratic process, not a
> dictatorship, or a blind-dumb loyalty to an individual or ideology. You
> will  recall that Dr. Saine has, in that same time period or thereafter,
> called on the opposition on a couple of times to throw their fullest
> support behind Ousainou Darboe to lead the coalition for various reasons
> that he very well articulated. So there wasn't any such thing as "friends"
> that Dr. Saine stood up for in the NAAD debacle. He has consistently stood
> up for one thing, and one thing only, a Gambia free of tyranny and
> oppression.
>
>  Besides, there are fundamental differences between Dr. Saine and Janneh
> in relation to your citation, which by the way, is shrouded in hypocrisy
> and blind-dumb allegiance to Dr. Janneh. In Dr. Saine, one will find
> consistency, honesty, sincerity, content, and above all, bravery and
> selflessness. A front line soldier who has never been tempted by Jammeh's
> luxurious cabinate or diplomatic positions. With the tittle in front of his
> name, I am convinced that it would not take Yaya a day to figure out his
> capabilities and accomplishments. A click of a button would take care of
> that.  Furthermore, even if Dr. Saine had been called many names as you
> alleged, you will also agree with me that those critics were not calling
> him names for switching sides or cross-carpeting over to AFPRC/APRC. The
> name callers were undoubtedly from other opposition camps who would have
> been honored, or in fact have expected him to endorse their choice of
> candidate at that time(their respective party leaders). Unlike Dr. Janneh,
> Dr. Saine  has never been part of the AFPRC/APRC regime, even though he has
> probably met Yaya before Dr. Janneh did.
>
> You will further agree with me that Dr. Saine has always been with us in
> every step of the way, and has never capitulated to pressure, or succumbed
> to greed or personal ego, to say the least.  The review, if anything, has
> in many ways echoed the sentiments openly and honestly expressed, and
> debated in this and other forums, including Gainako, I think.
>
> In conclusion, I want to assure you that Dr. Saine's views on this and
> many other political issues surrounding The Gambia, are mostly, if not all
> the time, on solid grounds, such that not you or Janneh ....to borrow a
> line from brethren Modou Mboge " the enabler", can refute. Therefore, to
> suggest that Dr. Saine "made a mistake" by standing up for his friends
> (OJs) is just not supported by a thread of fact. On the conversely, to
> suggest that Dr. Janneh made a mistake by lobbying and eventually accepting
> Yaya's appointment does not hold an atom bit of water. He knew what he was
> doing ( Mens rea), sought for it and jumped (Actus reus) on it when he was
> provided with the opportunity. Dream come true, right?
>
> "Beh Kajjum"
>
> Pa. S. Kujabi.
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]>
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 26, 2013 12:57 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Standing Against Injustice:Review by Professor Saine
>
> All,
>
> I thought Dr. Saine's review of "Standing Up for Injustice" is very good
> and balance. It is great to see our Professionals openly review the work of
> others with critical questions and observations without fear of all the
> sentiments that may come with it. It shows an open mature people who can
> look at issues objectively, opine on it without fear of being attacked.
> Kudos to Dr. Saine on this and LJD on Papa Faals " A week in hell".
>
> Dr. Janneh's book and decision to work for Jammeh will continue to be a
> controversy and a lesson for many Gambians. I think the decision should be
> looked at from a broader perspective in that judging a man/woman by a
> single incident or decision in their entire life or legacy may be
> historically inconclusive. History teaches that great contributors to
> society or must admired have an ugly chapter in their life that they wish
> never had occurred...
>
> Sir Dawda Jawara one of the most admired and respected in Gambian
> political history despite his shortcomings stood by Jammeh and continue to
> stand by him as we speak. There is certainly nothing more dishonorable than
> standing beside the one person who has insulted you so much, discard you so
> openly and ruin so much of what you have worked all your life to build. To
> err is human and am sure most of us would wish that we have not done or
> said something in our life one time or another.
>
> Dr. Saine himself a brain behind the founding of STGDP and an incredible
> scholar in our times was called all kinds of names on this forum for daring
> to stand up with his friends (the OJs) during the NADD debacle. It just
> goes to show that none of us could have a completely clean slate either in
> public or private life in the eyes of others.
>
> So again, while I strongly disagree with Dr. Janneh's decision to work for
> Jammeh, history will judge him and many of us not on a single incident but
> what we dedicate our lives in fighting for. I admire a man/woman who see
> injustice, taste injustice and may even render injustice but dedicate part
> of his/her life to fight to correct that wrong .. History will be the
> ultimate judge and the jury is still out!
>
> Happy Friday
>
> Demba
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 4:36 AM, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Yero
> I will depart a bit on the Dr Saine review. It is human folly to make
> errors of judgement, some calculated, others accidental. Dr Janneh's error
> in joining Jammeh is well argued and elaborately written about. In the
> stage of the game we find ourselves in, his efforts are commendable today
> than, Dr Saine regurgitating what has been said over and over.
> The review is not radical neither unexpected. The case at hand seems to be
> focusing on the person of Dr Janneh and his mistakes...Dr Janneh paid the
> ultimate price for that. He was imprison for a long period and went through
> a painful ordeal, I belief that is a reconpence for giving Jammeh the
> benefit of the doubt. Many in his place would have kept quiet and
> has continued to do so.
> Dr Saine's review of Editor Mbai's book was more interesting if you ask
> me. That book is nearly impossible to review. I started to read it, but
> couldn't go anywhere. Hence when I saw Dr Saine's review of it, I was
> flabbergasted to be honest. Dr Janneh's continued efforts should be
> encouraged and others too trying to formulate agendas and organisations
> that can create formidable fighting point. The intellectual battles will be
> fought, but they are more about clashes of egos to those that will yield
> meaningful headway.
>
> Thanks
> Suntou
>
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Y Jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>  *Standing Against Injustice*:Review by Professor Saine
>
> http://gainako.com/?p=1454
>
> Good folks,
>
> If you are like me, where you could not read all these books entirely or
> even partially, hanging onto reviews of experts will keep you up to date on
> some of these books.
>
> Thanks Professor Saine for your continued reviews. These reviews are very
> enlightening. I don't know how you guys keep up with it. I can only guess
> it must be a lot of work. The online media Gainako especially appreciate
> your generosity and sharing spirit.
>
> I congratulate Dr. Janneh for adding his memoir to Gambia's history. With
> due respect to him, it still leaves unanswered questions on why after all
> he decided to join the regime. To go and fight within was not only
> ill-advised, it also carries with it, "Guilt by association," especially
> after knowing the much about Jammeh's terror regime. Moreover, Dr. Janneh
> was already a professor in a political related discipline, an expectation
> to shape one's mind and country. Don't get me wrong. I champion the use of
> common sense and good judgment rather than making degrees a worshipping
> tool. I am just sharing that be that he is an educated person, it is hard
> to excuse him on the basis that he didn't know. I think history will find
> it hard to reconcile that part of it. It now lies wholly on Dr. Janneh
> to live with that stigma, something I believe his critics have valid points
> against.
>
> I must equally be fair to him and some of his very disciplined associates
> that since his release, I admired his participation and continuing to fight
> alongside with us to root out the dictator.
>
> Best for Ramadan,
> Yero
>
>
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