Joke, to say that you are a despicable human being would be an
understatement. As people keep telling you, you are the worst breed of
Gambian in the face of the earth. Why? Because you know ALL the facts, but
decided to still side with evil. This is an informed decision on your part.

When you came here earlier on with your crocodile tears about Mr. Colly’s
account of the heinous crimes AFPRC committed against our people, we saw
through you right away. Sanusi jumped on you forthwith. I see you
conveniently dodged his pointed question to you asking you to reevaluate
your loyalty to AFPRC/APRC in light of Colly’s devastating revelations. I
just ignored you knowing that it would not take long for you to show your
true colors. Now you have. It did not even take you a handful of postings to
show how phony and despicable you are. Now we can safely say that when you
were crying with your wife, you were not crying for Gibriel Saye and his
family, but you were crying for Kebba Joke’s fate. Colly reminded you about
the animals you are dealing with. You wept because you and your wife
realized that if the animals can do it to Saye, why not Kebba Joke. After
you recollected yourself, wiped your tears, you now decided to conclude that
Colly is lying; otherwise why would he wait six years to tell his story. See
why Saul said that you are in denial? If you want, you can convince yourself
that Colly is lying. Saye et al were not slaughtered by Yaya and his gang.
Those of us that are not in denial know better. As soon as you pleaded
ignorance about Colly’s revelations the other day, I wanted to point out
your hypocrisy and lies, but vigilant brothers like Sanusi, Mboge and Kujabi
beat me to it. What Colly revealed just confirmed what people like me knew
since November 1994. Colly just gave us the gory details that only
participants like Baboucarr Jatta would know. But it was an open secret in
Gambia that Saye for instance was NOT killed in the line of fire at ‘Depot’.
Everyone knew that he was summarily executed in cold-blood. What we did not
know, was for instance, that the animals have to ‘machete’ his legs in order
to fit him in a mass grave. Remember that Colly was responding to a direct
question from me. He did not just wait until after six years to tell a
story. He mentioned Saye in passing in an earlier post. That made me start
thinking about the gentleman again and I asked Colly to verify whether the
Saye he mentioned was the same man that was slaughtered in connection with
the bogus November 1994 ‘counter-coup’. So you see that your insinuations do
not even hold water. If you have facts different from what Colly wrote,
bring those facts forward. Don’t say that Colly must be lying because he did
not tell his story earlier on. What is the “official” version according to
you. You want to live in denial. Fine with me. But don’t lie about people.
Colly’s facts are irrefutable. Go to the camp and ask Jatta what happened.
Go to Saye’s dad and tell him that his son was killed in a gunfight at
‘Depot’ on the night of November 11, 1994. I wonder between me and you who
is wearing blinkers. We gave you all the facts and you turn around and use
your sick brain to convince yourself that Colly must be lying or else he
would have revealed these facts a long time ago. Be my guest and keep on
living in ‘lala-land’.

Turning to our children and the April Massacre, you again showed why it is
an understatement to describe you as despicable. You blamed our children and
then turn around and say that you do not want to be seen as blaming them.
Despite the fact that your government does not have any proof, you also
blamed the press and the UDP for the Massacre of our children. You also
dishonestly used Colly’s words to blame the soldiers that were acting on
Yaya’s orders. You also blamed Ebrima Barry for getting slaughtered by the
firemen the children were denying justice to. Joke, how can you sleep at
night? You are advocating for due process to be applied in the dispensation
of justice vis-à-vis the firemen in the Ebrima Barry murder. Yet you do not
see the need to apply due process in the massacre of our children. Do you
know the outcome of the Ebrima Barry case? In light of that outcome and Dr.
Sam’s testimony, was it unreasonable for our children to cry foul on April
10 and 11, 2000? How did the press cause the massacre? How did UDP cause the
massacre? If Yaya did not give the orders, why did he not punish the people
that acted without his orders and massacred our children? You see how you
are trying to defend the indefensible? You tell us all this garbage and turn
around and say that you do not deny AFPRC/APRC atrocities. What are you
doing when you blame our children, UDP and the press for the Massacre? I
wonder who you think you are dealing with. I am beginning to believe that
perhaps we are dealing with a lunatic when we deal with you. Shows the
caliber of people on the APRC side. The best they have to tell their side
cannot even forward one single plausible argument for them. Pathetic.

Yaya and corruption. Again who is wearing blinkers? Your reason for saying
that Yaya is not corrupt, is just laughable. You mean to tell us that Yaya
is not corrupt because Central Bank officials would not let him? Joke, wake
up from your slumber. Talking about Central Bank, let me give you a hint and
ask you to inquire about who Lang Conteh is. Ask around about his business
dealings with Yaya. For starters, every ten-year-old in The Gambia knows
that when Yaya wants to loot the Central Bank, the drunkards you listed in
your piece would be the last people to stop Yaya. Like you, they are all
low-life cowards after self-preservation.

To illustrate Yaya’s corruption to other subscribers (because Joke is in
denial and until Yaya blows Joke’s brains up, the moron will not get it),
let me share with you an excerpt from a ruling from a Swiss court on the
‘Ebou Jallow’ case. The judge in the case said: “for the US$3,000,000 in
contention, transferred from the CENTRAL BANK OF GAMBIA to account no: 49275
opened in Ebou Jallow’s name at Credit Lyonnais, the account manager is
equally categorical: when Ebou Jallow asked to remove the entire
US$3,000,000 in cash, the manager CONTACTED PRESIDENT JAMMEH BY TELEPHONE
who CONFIRMED to him that he was aware of the fact that the amount
originated from the CENTRAL BANK OF THE GAMBIA and that it had been credited
to Ebou Jallow’s PERSONAL ACCOUNT.” Emphasis mine.

Joke, there are more revelations about corruption where this comes from. The
manager I quoted above also revealed to us how he helped Yaya opened his
(Yaya’s) personal Swiss account at Credit Lyonnais and gave Ebou Jallow
power of attorney to that account. But people like me do not even need these
types of evidence to show that the moron is corrupt. Just look around you
back home. Just last week I laid my hands on the blueprints of the villas
Yaya built in Kanilai (including the map of his bunker). Did Yaya build that
from his ‘multi-million dollar salary from the Gambian taxpayers’? Or are
these the proceeds of ‘gifts’ he got from Taiwan?

Joke, your stupidity is just mind-boggling.
KB



>From: Kebba Jobe <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Jobe and the Truth
>Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 18:34:59 -0000
>
>1) Hamjatta, you wrote:
>
>“Kebba Joke,
>Yeah, that's right! From now onwards, you shall be known on this forum as
>Kebba Joke - courtsey of Brother KB.  As he wittily pointed out to you, you
>are nothing but a big joke. So we will just have to finesse the earlier
>identity crisis you've gone through and save you the trouble of mistaking
>yourself for Daddy Nying. We will henceforth expunge the "b" in the "Jobe"
>and replace it with "k" so you shall become now as Kebba Joke. I advice all
>my compatriots to stick to this name so there wouldn't be any need for
>confusions. See me? Kebba Joke, the joke is on you”.
>
>Hamjatta, like I said on a number of occasions I don’t give a damn what you
>call me. The fact remains that whenever you are engaged constructively, you
>change the subject thinking you can fool me. What we’ve been talking about
>is inconsistency, incompetence and arrogance of the UDP that you finally
>admitted just a few days ago. Because of your blinkered vision coupled with
>your narrow mindedness you’ve all along refuse to accept that there may be
>some problems with the way the UDP ran its campaign during the recent bye
>elections. I tried to point this out to you to no avail. You stubbornly
>maintained that the UDP battering in Kiang East was solely due to
>vote-buying.
>
>“A verminous and cretinous wimp like you who is scared shitless by mere
>rhetorics from  refined gentlemen like Darbo and his deputy Yayha Jallow
>would never get it why we constructively engaged the UDP. But smart
>individuals like Mballow and Darbo knew exactly what we are onto and
>instead
>of threatening us - as Jammeh most certainly have - they engaged us;
>accepted some of our criticisms; state what they will do about the
>shortcomings highlighted and where they politely begged to differ, they
>clearly explaained. This is how a truly democratic, decent, accomodating
>and
>tolerant civic association handles dialogues;…”
>
>Hamjatta, there you go again with your vulgarity. You know very well that
>you are lying through your teeth when you say the above. You are incapable
>of accommodating any divergent view. You are as intolerant of views that
>you
>don’t share as can be. Your narrow mindedness will not allow you to be
>otherwise.
>
>Saul Khan, you wrote:
>
>“Hamjatta,
>
>Like many have opined here, I believe the man's sole
>motive for being here is to distract us from engaging in productive
>ventures. While he sometimes protest that he's open to conversion, he never
>passes up an opportunity to say why he CANNOT support any of the
>alternative
>  parties to Yaya Jammeh (the APRC party and the man are one and the same.)
>And to make matters worse, Jobe Nying keeps telling us that highlighting
>the
>atrocities committed by this rogue regime aren't "issues that matter" to
>Gambians”.
>
>Saul you cannot be further from the truth than this. The fact that I
>willing
>admit it when others point better reasons for not supporting this regime is
>clearer pointer that I give the devil its due. May be as time goes on I
>could be convinced that I betting on the wrong horse. All that is important
>to me, for now, is for every one to put across your point as convincingly
>as
>one can. At the end of the day all would have been heard and we can all
>make
>more informed choices. The dishonesty of some on this forum is what I will
>not swallow hook, line and sinker. To condemn the all the APRC projects as
>white elephant projects then turn around saying they are Jawara’s projects
>designed by inept civil servants only to turn around yet again claiming
>that
>even if they are good projects they were stolen. Utter rubbish, if you ask
>me.
>
>”Besides the twisted logic the man exhibits, there's something really scary
>about Jobe which yourself and KB have already highlighted: Mr. Kebba Jobe
>Daddy Nying is a very COLD, SADISTIC, and hypocritical character. He's a
>first-hand witness to the Hell Ride Gambians are being dragged on by the
>Criminal Syndicate a.k.a. APRC govt., but because it hasn't affected him
>directly, he's indifferent to the calamity”. He is comfortable supporting
>an
>irredeemably despotic regime, even while he decries the main opposition's
>potential for those tendencies”!
>
>Perhaps you are right that may be my support of the regime is partly
>attributable to the fact that it has not affected me directly. But if you
>apply the same logic to the entire Gambian populace, isn’t it scary? The
>question to ask your self is whether all the Gambians supporting this
>regime
>have all degenerated to such low lives. Again ask yourself why some of us
>still support this regime despite all the atrocities that this government
>has done. I am sorry to tell you that the answers that you come up with
>cannot be narrowed down to your above assessment. You will find that some
>answers will be found within the quality of the main UDP campaign strategy.
>
>”Mr. Jobe Nying  cannot support the UDP because they're a bunch of "angry
>tribalists" whose intent to "reverse everything" the APRC has done will
>plunge the country into "civil war." This isn't the first time we've seen
>people invoke such fears to disguise their real intention: seeing the
>perpetuation of a corrupt, and absolutely tyrannical regime. If we're going
>to be honest, we're duty-bound to separate our personal interests from that
>which benefits/hinders our larger society most”.
>
>The last sentence of the above I quoted from you is the basis of building
>up
>one’s credibility. Self denial and selective amnesia punctuated by
>arrogance
>will not build up any body’s credibility. Ask your self whether by
>accepting
>some of people’s views when you have divergent views is wrong. When you
>agreed with me about our rising population and the relevance of some of the
>APRC development projects to the ordinary people of this country, didn’t
>some people on this forum admonish you for simply strengthening the
>credibility that you have built up for your self? Lets call a spade a
>spade.
>Any body who is willing to accept any other person’s views should not
>expect
>anybody to also blindly accept their views.
>
>I am reproducing the following because it is very pertinent to democracy in
>the Gambia and the current debate.
>
>”1. Mr. Jobe Nying is right that Yaya Jammeh isn’t the biggest menace to
>our
>society: Him and his types are! There’s a theory in modern politics called
>“Plausible Deniability” that is often used to save leaders from
>embarrassing
>situations. In other words, the leader didn’t “see” what he’s in fact seen,
>or doesn’t “know about” what he actually knows to be going on: Reagan in
>the
>Iran-Contra scandal, Helmut Kohl in the “money for influence” pact his
>party
>had with many German businesses, etc. Get the drift? The Kebba Jobe Daddy
>Nyings of the Gambia have turned this whole concept into a shameless art
>form. They live and breathe it daily. They know about the savagery
>constantly meted out to opponents of the regime. They know about the open
>bleeding of public coffers. They know about the falsification of all types
>of govt. documents. They know about the sorry existence the majority of
>Gambians are forced to live thanks to the APRC.  They know about the
>alarming EXODUS of TALENTED Gambians (the bedrock of the economy.) And they
>know about the unjustified harassment many ordinary Gambians are subjected
>to on a daily basis.  Yet, despite all this, the Kebba Jobe Daddy Nyings
>shut out these facts because things haven’t hit home directly. So they
>defend the criminals, and rationalize their actions, as “neutral” civil
>servants, or “respectable” Cabinet Secretaries. They call it “Serving My
>Nation With Honor.” A very catchy phrase indeed. But once Yaya Jammeh fires
>them, or their wives, sisters, daughters or sons run afoul of the system,
>then Raja Sesame! What a mighty surprise! The opposition, and critics on
>Gambia-L are indeed right about the APRC govt.! It’s time to be
>“patriotic.”
>But until then, it’s “plausible deniability” with the deformed logic of a
>hypocrite. Talk about trying to wake up a “pretend-sleeper!”
>
>Plausible deniability? What are you talking about? Not once did I deny any
>of the wrongful deeds attributed to this regime. If that is not clear yet,
>I
>will state my position on these again.
>
>On corruption and the pilfering of state coffers by Yahya Jammeh, the
>evidence is just not there. Nobody in his right mind can honestly say that
>very fine and refined gentlemen like Clark Bajo, Val Jentsen and Momodou
>Cessay, all of the Central bank will sit idly by while our treasury is
>being
>emptied by Yahya and his people. That Yahya is extremely wealthy is stating
>it mildly. He is a very wealthy man. However, let’s not forget that he is
>actively engaged in agriculture and animal husbandry. Our constitution
>unlike that of the US does limit the amount/value of gifts that the
>president can receive. Perhaps this is a flaw or may be not. None of you
>will deny that former president Jawara received gifts even from our very
>poor farmers. The difference here is that Yahya is giving to the poor
>rather
>taking from them. Any honest Gambian will also accept the fact that it is
>the APRC government that has made it mandatory for the national audit
>office
>to submit its reports directly to the national assembly yearly. It has
>never
>happened before.
>
>On the alleged cold-blooded murder of some members of our security forces,
>the only tangible explanations given so far have been the official version
>and Ebou Colly’s recent report. Now the question is which version is true?
>Why has Ebou Colly’s version surfacing almost 6 years later? Could any of
>you have imagined that the picture he painted about this fateful day and
>the
>following day could have really taken place in the Gambia of all places?
>
>On the April 10 & 11 slaughter of our kids, I condemn it in toto as well as
>the recently passed indemnity act. However, I totally disagree that Yahya
>is
>solely responsible for what happened. Let’s say he gave the order to shoot
>our children. How many of you really believed that in Gambia of all places,
>our security forces can put live bullets in their riffles, aim at young
>demonstrating school children and open fire on them time after time? This
>is
>what Ebou Colly said of our then field force:
>
>“…service men were literally  social-outcasts in terms of origin,
>education,
>social status, family background and self-esteem. So instead of having fine
>warriors prepared to lay their lives for the defense of their nation, we
>ended up grooming angry jealous armed men full of hate and destructive
>tendencies ready to follow any deviant or criminal into a path of national
>destruction”. Are our security forces of today any different?
>
>Secondly, the rights that the demonstrating school children have to see to
>it that justice is done regarding the alleged murder of the late Ebrima
>Barry and the alleged rape of the Brikama school girl should also be
>extended to the 6 accused fire service men. They are also Gambians who are
>also protected by the same constitution and have the right to be assumed
>innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. In the first place was
>there
>any necessity for the demonstrations considering the fact that those
>accused
>of the late Ebrima’s torture that led to his death were already behind bars
>at the central mile 2 prisons. Are these firemen not entitled to a fair
>trial or do we just arrest them convict them and just lynch them? I am not
>saying that it is the children’s fault for getting shot as some narrow
>minded people would like you to believe. All am saying here is that lack of
>tolerance on the side of both the children and security forces coupled with
>that irresponsible press coverage and UDP pronouncements provided the
>fertile ground for explosion that followed.
>
>On the arrest and detentions especially of the UDP militants, it is
>entirely
>of their making. Their vulgar pronouncements and incitements are of their
>own making.
>
>I will not touch on the Dumo Saho saga as it is before the courts and I
>don’t know much about it.
>
>You also wrote:
>
>“2. The second point is this attempt to portray anyone who calls for
>justice for victims of the APRC “extremists,” “haters,” “intolerant,”
>“tribalist,” “anarchist,” etc. Very disingenuous, this one.
>
>This is absolute rubbish and you know it. Those I’ve labeled extremists,
>haters and intolerant are the narrow minded ones who stubbornly refuse
>others their right to express alternative views  different from their own.
>These are the Hamjattas, Damphas, Makevelis, Ansuman Kujabis, Momodou
>Mboges, Lamin Barrows, etc, etc.
>
>You wrote:
>
>“You see there are two types of Gambians: those who are demanding justice
>and fair play uncompromisingly, and those whose assiduous attempt to
>protect
>their vested interest believe the pursuit of material well-being is
>exculpatory. Somehow, as long as they’re making money, or have “big jobs,”
>it really doesn’t matter HOW they do it.  Ignore basic human etiquette? Why
>not! Close one’s eyes to murder and mayhem? Who said you can’t? Prostitute
>oneself and wive(s)? It’s just “temporary” – I’m the permanent owner. How
>about letting Massa XYZ have a little fun with sister Kumba, or daughter
>Fatou? Hey what’s the harm – since they’re bound to give it up, they may as
>well give it up to the “Big Man” – the “good genes?”
>
>Dead wrong. You see your warped mind at work? How another group that
>believes that the best way to convince any one is to provide evidence that
>is convincing. How about those who believe in retribution but not revenge?
>How about those who believe that an eye for eye will only make the whole
>world blind?
>
>“This is the twisted mentality of the Kebba Jobe Daddy Nyings. They cannot
>understand why some of us could stick to principles when turning a blind
>eye
>could get us “good jobs” and material things as members of the “In” club.
>Their behavior is as sickening as it is shameless. The disgust and contempt
>is certainly mutual. People on our side should take Kebba Jobe Daddy
>Nying’s
>labels (“extremists,” “haters,” “intolerant,” “tribalist,” “anarchists,”)
>as
>a compliment. Anything kinder from one who so cheerfully strengthens the
>hand of the devil, would be a blow to decent human beings everywhere.
>There’s no salvation for one who arrogantly cheerleads for a band of
>ne’er-do-wells bent on destroying everything decent about a whole people.
>What is going on in the Gambia is a tragedy of epic proportions, and the
>complicity of people like Kebba Jobe Daddy Nying in it is shameful. Very,
>very, shameful|.
>
>The rants and raves of idiots like Pamodou Jobe, Momodou Olly Mboge et al
>is
>reminiscent of a mad man and does not bother me. Those of you with your
>blinkered vision are incapable of critical analysis of current events. To
>be
>in denial hoping for better things is for fools. Please wake up.
>
>Dampha you wrote
>“POWERFUL. Joke would not say that you did not warn him. You told him from
>the onset that as soon as he finished his thesis, you will be on his back.
>He finished his thesis with a whimper; sobbing as a little child frightened
>of an imaginary thing. You gave it to him where it hurts most. Joke's most
>cherished commodity is to gain respectability from decent folks. You told
>him in no uncertain terms that it takes more than he brings to the table to
>gain respect from people. I knew all along that you got Joke's number. The
>moron does not know who he is dealing with. This is not about smarts and
>writing coherent English. This is about basic integrity. Thank you very
>much, my brother. You just made my day. I hate the vermin”.
>
>Get real, Dampha. I am very capable of taking good care of myself. You
>cannot but hate me, but that's your business. I know that your narrow
>mindedness, anger and despair cannot allow you otherwise.
>
>Musa Jeng wrote:
>
>“Mr. Jobe:
>
>Some of us are driven to see a Gambia where the political discourse can
>be taken to a level, that by even being critical, one can contribute
>inadvertently to the development process of our country. In any
>debate/discussion, there are always cynics, skeptics, extremist, fence
>sitters and positions that are down right dishonest. From the final
>summation of your case, dishonesty is an understatement”.
>
>The dishonesty prevalent in this forum is strongly entrenched in your camp.
>Self denial, selective amnesia, narrow mindedness while expecting others to
>respect your views is the epitome of dishonesty.
>
>“The last time I contributed my butut to this debate, I was seriously
>lambasted because I dared to be objective. Not that I was completely naive
>that you could be a partisan Jammeh supporter, but I strongly believe that
>the level of the debate can be helped if the other side view can be
>adequately represented. Clearly, it is not suffice just to hold discussions
>without hoping that it could ultimately helped the democratization and
>development of our country. Although, it is unfortunate you are what
>everybody thought you were, and reading your conclusion, and going back to
>see some of the adjective directed to me by Mr.Dampha. I still disagree
>with
>his characterization, but can now understand the temperament of his
>argument”.
>
>Mr. Jeng, the development of democracy cannot be achieved in the absence of
>the right to free speech and the right to have a different opinion. This is
>however not the case with some of your people.
>
>“You started out by painting the shortcomings of the first republic, the
>mismanagement of the economy and the level of corruption during the Jawara
>era. Not that I disagree with some of your facts, but it is sad that all
>you
>sough was political opportunism and you could care less what it did to the
>country. When you touted the Jammeh projects to build your case, again
>political expediency was all you cared about. In my last piece, when I
>posed
>this question: “What would you tell the disappointed coup supporters who
>were interested in development projects, political stability, preservation
>of individual rights, end to corruption, independent judiciary and a new
>Gambia full of hope and stability.” You completely ignored it. What really
>dwarfs all your dishonesty was your final summation, that your support to
>the AFPRC is a direct result of your own views on the UDP party”.
>
>Jeng my failure to answer the question is totally inadvertent. So may
>people
>have asked me a lot of questions and it is very possible that I overlooked
>it. To answer your question, I would urge them to continue to discuss these
>issues with a view to gaining better understanding of what went wrong and
>why.
>
>The only fact to the above statements is that, you support the AFPRC (and
>only God and yourself no why), and your hatred to the UDP Party, and
>clearly
>their political platform has absolutely nothing to do with it. It is sad
>that you have paraded the hall of the Gambia-L, and some of us were eager
>to
>give you the benefit of the doubt. You have willingly ignored the truth and
>sacrificed the future of your children by actively compromised and
>mortgaged
>the future of our country. What was obvious was your inability to
>invalidate
>Jammeh’s human rights abuses; and corruption, the single issue that was
>used
>to justify the coup, has become synonymous with this administration.
>Unfortunately, like other war-ridden countries in Africa, the peace that
>this country is known for is threatened”.
>
>Mr. Jeng what constitutes facts, like truth, are not as easily seen by all.
>That’s why it is important that we more tolerant of each other’s views.
>After all the country is more than any individual or party. In Game theory
>there is a game called “Zero-sum game”.  This is analogous with gambling
>with a fair coin (locally called Peps). This is a game that should not
>played among friends or family members. The simple reason is that one only
>gains what the other looses. The Gambia should not be subject to a zero-sum
>game. The notion that we cannot hold divergent views and yet have a common
>goal is nonsense. Unfortunately there are some who believe that either you
>are with them or against them.
>
>“Mr.Jobe, the future of our democracy and our country starts with the
>truth, and for people like yourself to understand that you are
>participating
>in the destruction of your children’s future. Unless we start to approach
>our problems with honesty, objectivity and what is ultimately in the
>interest of the country, we are all engage in the destruction of the
>Gambia”.
>
>Mr. Jeng, I am fully aware of the need to put the interests of our country
>and people first, and in that endeavor, I am willing to take on any one so
>that by the end of the day, the weaknesses and strengths of both sides will
>be there for all to see. Should the UDP win the next elections, which I
>sincerely doubt, they would have come to power knowing full well what
>educated Gambians expect of them. All parties in the country will also have
>come to terms with the reality that politics is no more a taboo subject
>exclusively monopolized by some families.
>
>Have a good day and bye 4Now, KB Jobe.
>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: Lamin Jeng <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>> ><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: Jobe and the Truth
>>Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:51:35 -0400
>>
>>Sorry for the typo and omission.  My last two sentences should have >read:
>>
>>It was only a matter of time for him to unwittingly expose himself.
>> >Great
>>observations on your part.
>>
>>
>>From: Lamin Jeng <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: Jobe and the Truth
>>Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:43:42 -0400
>>
>>Mr. Jeng,
>>
>>I'm glad you finally saw through this fellow "Jobe".  It was only a matter
>>of time for him to unwiitingly expose himself. Great observations on part.
>>
>>Lamin Jeng
>>
>>
>>>From: Musa Jeng <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Jobe and the Truth
>>>Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 15:42:33 -0400
>>>
>>>Mr. Jobe:
>>>
>>>Some of us are driven to see a Gambia where the political discourse can
>>>be taken to a level, that by even being critical, one can contribute
>>>inadvertently to the development process of our country. In any
>>>debate/discussion, there are always cynics, skeptics, extremist, fence
>>>sitters and positions that are down right dishonest. From the final
>>>summation of your case, dishonesty is an understatement.
>>>
>>>The last time I contributed my butut to this debate, I was seriously
>>>lambasted because I dared to be objective. Not that I was completely
>>>naive that you could be a partisan Jammeh supporter, but I strongly
>>>believe that the level of the debate can be helped if the other side
>>>view can be adequately represented. Clearly, it is not suffice just to
>>>hold discussions without hoping that it could ultimately helped the
>>>democratization and development of our country. Although, it is
>>>unfortunate you are what everybody thought you were, and reading your
>>>conclusion, and going back to see some of the adjective directed to me
>>>by Mr.Dampha. I still disagree with his characterization, but can now
>>>understand the temperament of his argument.
>>>
>>>You started out by painting the shortcomings of the first republic, the
>>>mismanagement of the economy and the level of corruption during the
>>>Jawara era. Not that I disagree with some of your facts, but it is sad
>>>that all you sough was political opportunism and you could care less
>>>what it did to the country. When you touted the Jammeh projects to build
>>>your case, again political expediency was all you cared about. In my
>>>last piece, when I posed this question: “What would you tell the
>>>disappointed coup supporters who were interested in development
>>>projects, political stability, preservation of individual rights, end to
>>>corruption, independent judiciary and a new Gambia full of hope and
>>>stability.” You completely ignored it. What really dwarfs all your
>>>dishonesty was your final summation, that your support to the AFPRC is a
>>>direct result of your own views on the UDP party.
>>>
>>>The only fact to the above statements is that, you support the AFPRC
>>>(and only God and yourself no why), and your hatred to the UDP Party,
>>>and clearly their political platform has absolutely nothing to do with
>>>it. It is sad that you have paraded the hall of the Gambia-L, and some
>>>of us were eager to give you the benefit of the doubt. You have
>>>willingly ignored the truth and sacrificed the future of your children
>>>by actively compromised and mortgaged the future of our country. What
>>>was obvious was your inability to invalidate Jammeh’s human rights
>>>abuses; and corruption, the single issue that was used to justify the
>>>coup, has become synonymous with this administration. Unfortunately,
>>>like other war-ridden countries in Africa, the peace that this country
>>>is known for is threatened.
>>>
>>>Mr.Jobe, the future of our democracy and our country starts with the
>>>truth, and for people like yourself to understand that you are
>>>participating in the destruction of your children’s future. Unless we
>>>start to approach our problems with honesty, objectivity and what is
>>>ultimately in the interest of the country, we are all engage in the
>>>destruction of the Gambia.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Musa Jeng
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