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Still avoiding the question.

Chris



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From: UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 7:35:04 AM
Subject: Re: STGDP’s Call for a Return to NADD is Disingenuous - WHAT A 
SURPRISE... BROKEN OPPOSITION...


Come on Chris, give yourself a bit of respect before you loose mine.

Regards
Daffeh


On 6 April 2011 12:58, Halima Sukuna <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Why did you not participate in the recent interview on Freedom where the 
statement you wrote below was discussed?
>
>You did not answer my question as simple as it is. One honest answer will do.
>
>Chris..
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From: UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 6:29:43 AM 
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>Subject: Re: STGDP’s Call for a Return to NADD is Disingenuous - WHAT A 
>SURPRISE... BROKEN OPPOSITION...
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>
>Chris, do I have to give an  interview to Freedom? When did that become my 
>obligation? What makes you think I was approached for an interview and I 
>declined the offer? Even if I have been approached, have I not got the right to 
>decline? Could it not be the case that I was not readily available? How about a 
>possible lack of interest or perhaps a total contempt for the freedom radio talk 
>show? The point is; the judgement and decision is mine, not yours.
>
>In any case, I think you are bit late on this topic as the curtain has already 
>been drawn on it.
>
>Cheers
>Daffeh
>
>On 6 April 2011 11:41, Halima Sukuna <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>Hi Daffeh,
>>
>>Simple Q for you? Why did you not participate in the recent interview on Freedom 
>>where the statement you wrote below was discussed? If you found the time to read 
>>Musa Jeng's piece and you made time to listen to two different interviews that 
>>Banka Manneh participated in and furthermore you certainly squeezed in the time 
>>to write your piece, then why is it that you could not find an hour and a 
>>half to participate in an interview where the content of your writings was 
>>discussed? I was disappointed that it was not you as the second panelist.
>>
>>Bravo to Mr. Mass who had agreed to come to the interview and discuss an opinion 
>>that he did not write. I think he handled the interview extremely well.
>>
>>Also- UDP website. I see alot of recent updates out there. I had checked it 
>>several weeks back and it was full of older material. Glad to see the progress.
>>
>>Chris
>>
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>>From: UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Sent: Tue, April 5, 2011 4:52:24 AM
>>Subject: Re: STGDP’s Call for a Return to NADD is Disingenuous - WHAT A 
>>SURPRISE... BROKEN OPPOSITION...
>>
>>
>>
>>Yes I am fine, Haruna. There is no point responding to this duo. One is a walter 
>>mitty, the other a disingenuous hysteric.
>>
>>Thanks for checking on me.
>>
>>Daffeh
>>
>>
>>On 5 April 2011 06:27, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>Daffeh, I hope you're alright!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>Haruna. Cousin Fakoo Fakoo is closet UDP. 
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Mon, Apr 4, 2011 9:26 am
>>>Subject: Re: STGDP=?windows-1252?Q?=92s_?=Call for a Return to NADD is 
>>>Disingenuous - WHAT A SURPRISE... BROKEN OPPOSITION...
>>>
>>>
>>>Fankung, almost all coalitions are premised on the recognition that no one party 
>>>can do it alone. However, that has never precluded the legitimacy of the 
>>>majority party to lead. That is why the Conservative Party of David Cameroon is 
>>>leading a coalition government here in the U.K despite the fact that they could 
>>>not have formed a government on their own without having to coalesce with 
>>>another party, the Liberal Democrats. In a democracy, legitimacy is always 
>>>derived from the majority, not the minority or your silly notion of equality.
>>>
>>>My rejoinder is only meant to clarify issues. I have no interest whatsoever, 
>>>in fostering a ping pong game with people like you on this coalition issue. 
>>>
>>>
>>>My advice to you is to consider inculcating some element of sincerity in 
>>>yourself when debating national issues.
>>>
>>>Have a good day.
>>>
>>>Daffeh
>>> 
>>>
>>>On 4 April 2011 13:28, Fankung Fankung Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> 
>wrote:
>>>
>>>Here is another evidence that the Gambian opposition is full of power hungry 
>>>leaders. It is clearly written in WALLS that NO OPPOSITION PARTY can defeat 
>>>Jammeh on its own, or even make a dent in hi support. I know for sure that this 
>>>SS Daffeh fellow knows that HELL WILL FREEZE OVER when we hear UDP defeats 
>>>Jammeh on its own. And yet, all he sees is Darbo. If Darbo is not the leader no 
>>>coalition. Oh well, get preapared for your 9% come November....  GOD BLESS APRC 
>>>AND PROFESSOR JAMMEH.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Gambia: STGDP’s Call for a Return to NADD is Disingenuous 
>>>>STGDP’s Call for a Return to NADD is Disingenuous
>>>>By SS Daffeh, Secretary-General UDP UK
>>>>BANJUL, THE GAMBIA—Sometime ago, in December 2010, Mr. Musa Jeng of the 
>>>>U.S-based Save The Gambia Democracy Project [STGDP] presented in the media a 
>>>>proposal he dubbed ‘‘The Compromise’’ in which he articulated how an agreement 
>>>>could be reached to break the stalemate that has taken grip of the coalition 
>>>>negotiations between the main opposition United Democratic Party [UDP] and a 
>>>>purported representative of PDOIS , with the former joining NADD, a political 
>>>>entity he described as belonging to all opposition parties, and assume 
>>>>leadership of it.
>>>>He posited this as the only realistic option to break the stalemate and went on 
>>>>to justify his call on the basis that due to their experience in 2006 and the 
>>>>aftermath, PDOIS will never be willing to go along with what the conventional 
>>>>wisdom dictates and become part of a UDP led coalition. He, however, did not 
>>>>state what this experience was and why UDP should be held responsible for it.
>>>>As a result of two recent online radio talk shows in which its chairman, Mr. 
>>>>Banka Manneh, participated, we now understand Mr. Jeng’s proposal to be in total 
>>>>convergence with the position of the Save The Gambia Democracy Project [STGDP].
>>>>First of all, the STGDP should be reminded that this process like all coalition 
>>>>negotiations requires an honest approach that puts national interest above all 
>>>>others including ideologies, personal egos and differences. This can only be 
>>>>done if all stakeholders including PDOIS accept the universally practiced 
>>>>conventions and standards of coalition building to be the unfettered guiding 
>>>>principles of negotiations. This requires that the biggest party be adopted as a 
>>>>vanguard and for all other parties and political entities to throw their weight 
>>>>behind.
>>>>In 2006, both NADD and UDP presented themselves before the Gambian electorates 
>>>>as independent sovereign political parties and tested their individual electoral 
>>>>strengths. The UDP had almost five times more votes than NADD and currently has 
>>>>more representation in parliament than any other opposition party in The Gambia. 
>>>>It also has a bigger and more robust grass root support base than any other 
>>>>opposition party. To put it in a nutshell; UDP is by far the biggest opposition 
>>>>party in The Gambia. This is irrefutable and beyond questioning. Therefore, I do 
>>>>not see any wisdom whatsoever, in STGDP’s call for the UDP to join a smaller 
>>>>party, NADD, in the guise of compromise. If abandoning one’s party for another 
>>>>is the only solution to this stalemate, then the common sense approach would be 
>>>>for the smaller parties including NADD, to join UDP since the latter is the 
>>>>biggest.
>>>>As a matter of fact, what this process requires is not for parties to abandon 
>>>>their ship to join another but for the smaller parties to rally behind the 
>>>>biggest in line with internationally recognised and acceptable standards and 
>>>>norms of coalition building and as a matter of political legitimacy and 
>>>>necessity.
>>>>Given the polarising and intractable nature of the NADD dispute of 2006, I find 
>>>>it utterly incomprehensible that the SGTDP would like to think that the 
>>>>resurrection of the same old squabble that causes serious damage to 
>>>>inter-opposition party relations can engender a realistic compromise solution to 
>>>>this impasse. If they had done a careful and balanced assessment of the 
>>>>situation and the facts on the ground, I have no doubt that the STGDP would have 
>>>>realised that this idea has no potential but for the opening of the Pandora’s 
>>>>Box once again. I envisaged no realistic compromise to be engendered let alone 
>>>>realised in that kind of environment.
>>>>By virtue of their usage of an unexplained grievance that the PDOIS party 
>>>>apparently holds against the UDP as a sole rational behind their proposal, the 
>>>>STGDP has also failed to take into account the grievances of the UDP in the same 
>>>>respect particularly on the question of registration that altered NADD’s status 
>>>>from that of an alliance to a political party in contravention of the terms of 
>>>>the Memorandum of Understanding [MOU] that established it [NADD] and which cost 
>>>>the leader of the NRP, Mr. Hamat N.K Bah, his parliamentary seat. Therefore, 
>>>>both the UDP and the NRP can and quite legitimately, equally use their 
>>>>experience of 2006 and prior as a justification for their withdrawal and reason 
>>>>for refusing to return to NADD. The premise of STGDP’s compromise proposal is 
>>>>therefore fundamentally flawed in its lack objectivity and appreciation of the 
>>>>facts on the ground. 
>>>>Their claim that NADD belongs to all opposition parties is not borne by facts. 
>>>>Although the UDP participated in the creation of NADD the alliance, they did 
>>>>actually pull out from the organisation in 2006 after careful consideration. 
>>>>Therefore, if there was any UDP claim to NADD, that claim has been entirely 
>>>>relinquished in 2006 when the party pulled out.
>>>>Suffice it to say; the NADD that the UDP participated in creating was intended 
>>>>to be an alliance, not a political party, and this is clearly stipulated in the 
>>>>Preamble and Article 1 of the Memorandum of Understanding [MOU] that established 
>>>>the alliance. However, that creation was completely and utterly obliterated when 
>>>>NADD was clandestinely registered with the Independent Electoral Commission, 
>>>>despite opposition from the UDP, as a political party and thereby changing its 
>>>>nature and status. Therefore, it is completely and utterly erroneous to state 
>>>>that NADD as it currently stands was created by all the opposition parties.
>>>>A genuine pursuit of national interest and goals must always be guided by 
>>>>principles and values that are universally recognised and cherished. Otherwise 
>>>>it is bound to fail before it even starts. Thus, the idea that the universal 
>>>>principles and standards that underpin coalition building everywhere in this 
>>>>world should be forgone in our case for national interest is utterly simplistic 
>>>>at best; and disingenuous at worst.
>>>>STGDP should also explain why it continues to be their position that it is the 
>>>>UDP that must do everything inconceivable and unheard of to break this coalition 
>>>>stalemate when the PDOIS/NADD party, on the other hand, is ever determined to 
>>>>remain firm in their trenches of unreasonableness and intransigence, not to 
>>>>mention their persistent refusal to reciprocate UDP’s overtures.
>>>>If the STGDP wants UDP to return to NADD, then it would be advisable for them to 
>>>>consider actively lobbying for a complete de-registration of NADD so that it can 
>>>>re-claim its original and intended status, an alliance, with a flag bearer 
>>>>chosen from within the UDP and sponsored under a UDP ticket. This must be so as 
>>>>the UDP would still be the largest constituent party in the alliance anyway.
>>>>Talking about compromise; the onus is obviously on the smaller parties 
>>>>including PDOIS and NADD to first recognise and accept the political legitimacy 
>>>>of a UDP led alliance, at least in principle, and then state whatever 
>>>>condition[s] they would like to see attached. That way, we can move this process 
>>>>one step forward; from the principal issue of formula to a more secondary issue 
>>>>of conditionality and thereby making compromise more realistic and feasible. 
>>>>This is how a compromise solution can be engendered. However, PDOIS and NADD 
>>>>mustn’t think they can have it both ways; they would have to either indicate 
>>>>their willingness to become part of the proposed UDP led alliance with 
>>>>conditions attached or accept that it isn’t for them to talk about 
>>>>conditionality in that respect.
>>>>In my view, the NADD issue is an antiquated one that has not only been 
>>>>rendered obsolete but also lacking taste.
>>>>PDOIS’s Subterfuge
>>>>The pronouncement by PDOIS that a party led alliance is only prudent where there 
>>>>is a second round electoral system is the most ridiculous statement ever made in 
>>>>this coalition debate. As far as facts are concern, there is no second round 
>>>>voting system in South Africa and yet it was the ANC that led the coalition 
>>>>which brought President Jacob Zuma to power; there is no second round of voting 
>>>>in India and yet it was Sonia Ghandi’s Indian National Congress that led the 
>>>>coalition which returned Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to power; there is no 
>>>>second round voting system in Brazil and yet it is the biggest party that led 
>>>>the coalition which brought that country’s new president, Mrs. Dilma Rousseff, 
>>>>to power. - The list can go on- In all these cases, the idea of a primary to 
>>>>select a leader/candidate had been unthinkable and none-existent. PDOIS’s 
>>>>pronouncement is therefore not only baseless but also and very clearly, a 
>>>>preposterous subterfuge that they are now clinging on, regrettably, to hide 
>>>>their intransigence and refusal to heed to the popular call for the opposition 
>>>>to forge an all inclusive coalition to challenge the incumbent APRC in the 
>>>>forthcoming elections.
>>>>SS Daffeh
>>>>Secretary-General
>>>>UDP UK
>>>>www.udpgambia.com
>>>>-- 
>>>>*****************************************************************************

>>>>GOD BLESS THE GAMBIA. LET US JOIN HANDS AND SUPPORT SHEIKH PROFESSOR DR. ALH 
>>>>YAHYA JAMMEH (NASIRU DEEN) TO BUILD OUR COUNTRY. 
>>>>
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