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Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]>
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Ah Lamin, interesting take on that and I join you in celebrating my partner
in crime Yero Jallow and yourself for the clear stand on the issues... I
think though you may have misunderstood me in opining that I am for *"unity
at all cost"* *"Unlike him though, you are not a unity at all cost man'*. Here
is why I think that statement may not be fair. I am on record both In my
writings and editorial commentaries that we sometimes have to accept that
we cannot unite as one entity, that we need to work in "Parallel lines" to
achieve our goals of political change in the Gambia. That you missed those
pronouncements from me is hard for me to believe!

If you say I am for standing up for what will move us forward and generate
tangible results regardless of the cost not for our individual political
affiliations, tribal associations or even personal friendship then you may
be right. If you say it takes me time to buy into an idea but once I bought
into it and I believe it is for our national interest and that no matter
how difficult it is, we need NOT walk away from it then you may be right...
It took me time to buyer into the concept of NADD and once I bought into
it, I stood by it to the last minute.. were mistakes and missteps made
absolutely, but the concept of NADD remains the most viable option - if
done right to dislodge the Jammeh regime. We are still working to recreate
another NADD in a different format!

Equally it took me a while to buy into the concept of rallying Gambians to
Raleigh to brainstorm and find a way forward for our political deadlock,
but again once I bought into it, I stood by the idea and up to this minute
I am convince it was the right thing to do and that if done right despite
all the challenges, it has the potential to lead us to where we need to go
to bring about political change in Gambia...

Lamin, what I am adamant about is that we cannot continue to discount ideas
and not offer solutions. I am on record here fighting with people I am very
close to because the concept of tearing apart what is constituted and not
offering an alternative is simply a defeatist approach. I cannot also
accept the idea that we have to walk away when things don't go our way or
we don't like what we see. We have to be able to work through the
disagreements, the pains and sometimes the bitter fights to get to the
promise land of a free Gambia. But as citizens we cannot continue to dance
on one step forward two steps backward. We must be result driven no matter
the difficulties. I am a firm believer of incremental gains as we go... The
one shot approach often does not work in my opinion.

This is my position and has always been my position. I may be wrong a
sometimes, but I am willing to face the heat and work through the difficult
tasks to move our country forward... Unfortunately, I realize we have a
problem as a nation, as a people and even in that light we have to be able
to work through the pains if we are to achieve our goals... I hope that
given your profile and the amount of people who look up to you on a daily
basis, you will not only point out the problems but also offer a solution
forward publicly and call for restraints even in the most heated of
moments... You remain an inspiration to me and Gambia needs the likes of
LJD hands on deck. We have a difficult challenge in Gambia and we have to
stay the course with one objective in mind - moving forward for Gambia and
I have no doubt this is what you stand for as well...

Ramadan Mubarak and wishing you and your family a bless last 10 days of
Ramadan...

Demba


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> YJ
>
> I too celebrate you, loudly on occasion, quietly most of the time. Like
>  the other GON man, you have the ability to zero in on the 'little' things
> that are of massive importance if we must have an accountable public space.
> Unlike him though, you are not a unity at all cost man, and I appreciate
> you even more for that.
>
> From the basic unit of family to mammoth aggregates of the international
> system, 'unity' is not a concept that wins even 1% of the time. It is not a
> central element of the design of human life. How else can we explain the
> bitter feuds within families, between siblings even! How about an
> international community that completely fails to settle the myriad disputes
> across the globe, more painfully the lopsided conflict between the
> Palestinians and Israel that today dominates international discourse?
>
> Verifiable fairness must be the mantra. Always! Without it, 'progress'
> must succumb to the inevitability of one up, two down, regardless of the
> best efforts of the likes of your Associate Editor. Objective and fair is
> not glamorous, but we need it for a better and stable Gambia. Objective and
> fair is the basic building block of a tranquil society, and tranquillity in
> our public space is paramount to personal security and national
> development. Don't tell the Professor, but survey the destruction he
> continues to wrought on the clueless, like your friend Sabally, who
> champions the vandalisation of objective and fair.
>
> I cannot dispute your take on the prisoner killings. When our public life
> s viewed in the round, I am inclined to accept your explanation of why the
> prisoners, everyone of them, were unlawfully killed two years ago next
> month. Ours is a bizarre public climate. Some of the principal cheerleaders
> of public lawlessness are themselves on something akin to death row
> themselves, and I am unsure there are valid legal grounds for their
> imprisonment. On purely human considerations, I am quite aggrieved for the
> likes of Njogu Bah, and Lamin Jobarteh, but my abiding sympathy lies with
> the true victims, and there are many of them in Mile 2, and in extra-legal
> detention facilities across our little country.
>
> Just to say I immensely value your recent thoughts on "celebrity", and I
> urge your maintenance of the spirit.
>
> As we enter the last ten days of Holy Ramadan, I wish you dignified
> progress in all good endeavours
>
>
> LJDarbo
>
>
>
>   On Thursday, 17 July 2014, 3:48, Y Jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
>  http://www.maafanta.com/laminjdarboe100percentunlawf
>
>
> LJD,
>
> This is a great piece, a reminder to the bitter past of history, marking
> it two years soon since those prisoners were deprived of life, a law taken
> into the hands of a few administration criminals, and the spirits of those
> souls are haunting the administration in no small way. If you look around,
> mighty Karma, has certainly hit, and most of those that went on TV
> justifying the abomination, has fallen from grace, to a point where death
> is better than such humiliation. Their so-called judicial hypocrisy, from
> religious, true judicial, and even cultural standpoint was just empty and
> lacking substance. That is very unfortunate, especially the participation
> of justice ministry, some religious leaders (imams), and community folks,
> some of the very people who swore to serve true justice and represent
> citizens.
>
>  After a coaching from our own resident Christine Sukuna (thanks Chris for
> being on the look out as always), I am forced to accept the use of simple
> language versus the "curse" language on emotions, though we can't help vent
> out sometimes.
>
> LJD, please forgive my shallow understanding of the laws you quoted, even
> though as you offered, it is straight to the point, to where a lay man like
> myself can understand it. Here is what I have to offer on this topic...
>
> Last year, I was fortunate to be in Africa, and while there, by
> coincidence an extended invitation from Ndey Tapha Sosseh, I attended the
> anniversary of the prisoner killings, and a joint conference organized by
> RADHO, article 19, and amnesty in the Senegalese capital, Dakar, which saw
> many attendees. It was emotional and well organized. Both Dr. Amadou Janneh
> and DA Jawo made historic speeches, together with the RADHO folks of
> course. Dr. Janneh in his part, is a witness to the whole thing, and his
> accounts on this matter are very accurate as he narrated it.
>
> Back to the killings and my own recollections from narrations, the
> killings leaked first, and when the international community blew the
> whistle, Jammeh and his accomplices needed to get back to their huts, to
> come up with some more fat lies. The news reading on GRTS was done after
> the damage was done already. It was just a formality, but their foot tracks
> weren't erased.
>
> As to why it was done when in fact most of these cases were pending
> judicial (final) review, together with the constitution you quoted above,
> remains the question. Going by Jammeh's fetish nature, it gives credence to
> the much talked about "human sacrifice" for the sake of hanging onto the
> throne. Recall it was done on eid (Muslim feast). Trust me, I firmly
> believe, this was done for human sacrifice. In fact, Abdoulie Kujabi,
> former NIA director once shared with a close confidant, that they killed a
> young girl without teats and buried her in Kanilai, for sacrifice. Kujabi
> made these revelations after he fell out with Jammeh.  The very reason that
> Kujabi got in trouble was he was accused of fighting Jammeh spiritually by
> burying charms (jujus) in Kanilai, but he was Jammeh's confident who went
> out to meet spiritual leaders and marabouts. If any is in doubt, make
> enquires, and you will come across someone who is aware of it. In fact,
> Jammeh murdered people like Jasaja Kujabi, Marcel Jammeh, etc....for the
> same fetish beliefs. These are all said to be his family members. Of
> course, needless to mention, in my March 2009 visit to Africa, I saw with
> my own eyes, innocent people who were concocted with 'kubehjara' (poisonous
> herb) for the same fetish and devilish beliefs in Jammeh.  Jammeh worship
> idols and devils. Such is not uncommon among fetishes like Jammeh. If you
> look for any other reason, you will not find it. He was not doing it to set
> examples. If he was, he would have started with himself, after all these
> revelations made online, from Deyda's gruesome murder, to the Ghanaians,
> etc...
>
>
> There is only one solution. That is the one that citizens need to take.
>
> Thanks for reminding us.
>
> Happy Ramadan & warm regards,
> Yero.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "There is no god but Allah; & Muhammad (SAW) is His messenger"
>
> Kind Regards,
> Yero.
>
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