Haruna..
I will rather call it ....NIUMI JOYOH for all Niuminkas.. Like MacCarthy
Island to Janjanbureh Island ....
Niamo
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Haruna <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Chuballo Joyeh or Chuballo Island? Niamorkono? It is the island most used
> by the Niuminkas who know the island. The Niuminkas must therefore give us
> a name.
>
> Haruna.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fye Samateh <[log in to unmask]>
> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:55 am
> Subject: Re: Renaming James Island to Kunta Kinteh Island - whats your
> take?/ Wassa
>
> Haruna..
>
> None to my knowledge but the locals used it just for fishing among other
> things before the arrival of the Portuguese..That includes Banjul too where
> the Niumingkas and Kombonkas used it to cutting down Bamboo trees for
> domestic purposes ...
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 4:39 AM, Haruna <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Good education Sonny. Preciate you. Do you know who was/were the first
>> Gambian inhabitant/s of Sandemungu?
>>
>> Haruna.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:05 am
>> Subject: Re: Renaming James Island to Kunta Kinteh Island - whats your
>> take?/ Wassa
>>
>> Haruna, its got to be remembered that james island was never inhabited
>> by the locals. According to oral narration, there was a myth about the
>> island because it was believed that a Dragon lives there and as a result,
>> nobody goes near the Island. That seems to suggest that the locals knew
>> very little about the Island prior to the arrival of the Europeans.
>>
>> The myth was apparently broken by the Europeans who first settled there.
>>
>> Names of places in mandinKa tradition don't just come from the vacuum.
>> They always come out of either landmark events, practices or the name of
>> the first settling family or person(s) even though that person may not be
>> the first to discover the place. For example, the geographical land area of
>> Kunta-yaa Village was not first discovered by Abu Kunta Khan but he
>> settled there first with his family hence the name Kunta Yaa, a fula
>> settlement with a mandinka touch on its name; Saaba Village in Badibbu
>> apparently used to be patrolled by a sacred snake in protection of its
>> inhabitants hence, its name Saaba (big snake) but it could have been
>> Singhateh Kunda since the Singhatehs are said to be the founders or first
>> settlers there. This is just to explain how, in my strong opinion,
>> 'Sandemungu' is the original name for James Island. There is no written
>> evidence to the contrary neither of any oral narration of the same.
>>
>> I think the Island only got a name after it became first inhabited.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Daffeh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 20 July 2013, Y Jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> > Badou,
>> >
>> > I just wanted to report back to the Gambia-L that you are well informed
>> on Matters about James Island and Alex harley's alleged fraud. Dr. Donald
>> Wright (2010) in his book, "The World and a Very Small Place in Africa"
>> argues that Alex visited the Gambia in 1976 where he met one guy called
>> Fofana who falsely claimed was a griot, and volunteered to Harley what he
>> wanted to hear.
>> >
>> > Roots succeeded in making Juffure a "tourist Mecca" for Americans
>> (Wright 2010, P. 203).
>> >
>> > Regards to James Island, its naming has to do with the competition
>> of europeans for slaves. The Europeans negotiated with the mansas, thus "On
>> March 19, 1661,employees of the Royal Adventurers occupied the Island,
>> names it James Island, the Duke of York..."(Wright 2010, P.89).
>> >
>> > Again, Wright's (2010) book is a master piece on Niumi. I certainly
>> recommend it for research and leisure reading.
>> >
>> > Thanks & best,
>> > Yero.
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:38:59 -0400
>> > From: [log in to unmask]
>> > Subject: Re: [G_L] [OKO DRAMMEH] Renaming James Island to Kunta Kinteh
>> Island - whats your take?/ Wassa
>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> >
>> > Oko's Kunta Kinteh Agenda
>> > We, Ifang Bondi, never had anything to do with Alex Haley.
>> > Haley never worked with Ifang Bondi into(?) his Roots project and he
>> never invited us to make some of the music.
>> > We were never asked by the American Embassy to promote Kunta Kinteh in
>> the USA.
>> > We never had any ambition to be part of Alex Haley's or Oko's dreams of
>> transforming all of gambia into Kunta Kinteh-USA- Africa meeting point for
>> history culture & education.
>> > We never had any intention to express our artistic vision on Roots, The
>> Gambia & Kunta Kinteh.
>> > In short, we were never part of Oko's Kunta Kinteh agenda.
>> > We belonged to those Gambians who didn't remember Kunta Kinteh, simply
>> because Kunta Kinteh never existed.
>> > Everyone knew that the Kunta Kinteh story was fiction, even worse, that
>> Haley stole the Kunta Kinteh story from another novel "African" by
>> Courlander, who promptly took him to court. In the end Haley had to pay him
>> $ 650,000 in damages. Other scholars proved that more of Haley's claims
>> were fake. Check Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Haley /
>> "Plagiarism dispute and other criticism"
>> > The Gambia owes Haley for the creation of a major tourist attraction,
>> but Kunta Kinteh has no more links with the reality as Walt Disney's Snow
>> White has.
>> > James Island was renamed after a fake character fabricated by an
>> American writer who ripped it off from yet another American writer.
>> > "What use to be a source of Shame in is now acceptable norm in the
>> gambia." Indeed.
>> > Badou Jobe
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > KUNTA KINTEH
>> > Alex Haley worked with Ifangbondi into his ROOTS PROJECT and invited
>> the band to make some of the music. Senemie was contacted and Samson
>> Gassama, Badou andyself with the American Embassy planned on promoting
>> Kunta Kinteh in The USA. The Jealous reign of that time buried the dreams
>> of Alex Haley because we wre going to be in the mix. All of gambia was
>> going to transformed into a Kunta Kinteh- USA-Africa meeting point for
>> history culture & education together with Goree & Elmina in Ghana. Our
>> artists are not given chance to express thier artistic vision on Roots, the
>> Gambia & Kunta Kinteh and much more. [----- ] You know more to do with
>> James Island & Kunta Kinteh than a by-passer. We have a Kunta Kinteh
>> agenda.BUT Who remembers Kunta Kinbteh, only Gambians. this isld news, we
>> have to reinvent it and repackage it.
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