Thanks for the prompt action. I hope the list management comes to a
conclusion that will help maintain and enhance the sense of privacy and
security on this list.
-BambaLaye
On Wed, June 7, 2006 11:21 pm, Malanding Jaiteh said:
> BambaLaye,
> I understand concern that the right to scream fire must stop outside the
> theater hall. The rest of the management must be offline now but given
> the urgent need to protect the innocence, I have decided to temporarily
> suspend Mr Jallow's right to post until management have time to discuss
> the matter. Have a good night.
>
> Malanding
>
>
> Radio Free Gambia wrote:
>
>>Thanks Malanding for your prompt response:
>>
>>"Perhaps I may add that it was the management's own initiative and not
>>Pa's request to suspend the suspect account pending verification."
>>
>>I seek to prompt for similar management initiative be taken to protect Pa
>>Nderry Mbai's privacy pending (1)either Ebou Jallow proving beyond
>>reasonable doubt that he is not compromising Mbai's email account or
>>(2)Mbai confirming to all that Ebou has legitimate and explicit authority
>>to forward his(Mbai's) messages to the list.
>>
>>Messages are being forwarded from the same suspect(and
>>protected)account(s)through Ebou Jallow's email account(s)as we speak.
>>Does management have to wait for the Pa Nderry to complaint to protect
>> his
>>privacy?
>>
>>There appears to be two different thresholds set for management action on
>>the same issue. This needs to be revisited for the sake of the integrity
>>of this respected list.
>>
>>Sis Jabu, thanks for your added perspective. I'm about to scratch my head
>>too. Have a great night.
>>
>>-BambaLaye
>>
>>
>>On Wed, June 7, 2006 10:07 pm, Malanding Jaiteh said:
>>
>>
>>>Sister Jabou and BambaLaye,
>>>While I agree that Mr Jallow's forward of what seem to be personal mail
>>>sent to Pa Nderry should concern us, I still believe that it would be
>>>unprecedented for management to delist Ebou Jallow without evidence
>>>tying him to any wrong doing or violating Pa Nderry's privacy. As far as
>>>I can tell Pa Nderry is yet to report his address being spoofed to G-l
>>>management or Ebou Jallow is forwarding his private mails without
>>>conscent.
>>>Perhaps I may add that it was the management's own initiative and not
>>>Pa's request to suspend the suspect account pending verification.
>>>Unfortunately I am yet to hear from any of the managers that Pa
>>>contacted them about the suspended account.
>>>
>>>While Pa may have been too busy sorting things out I would imagine it
>>>not very hard hard to send personal messages to management (some of whom
>>>he had direct access) about his situation. Although it would be fair to
>>>state that he did through Mr Mballow asked to be resubscribed today, I
>>>hope he would in the future be unambiguous about the status of Ebou's
>>>postings, but until the G-l management cannot act.
>>>
>>> Malanding
>>>
>>>[log in to unmask] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Laye,
>>>>
>>>>I had also arrived at the same conclusions that it made sense to
>>>> de-list
>>>>Ebou Jallow because with Pa Nderry's declaration that his site was
>>>>illegally
>>>>hacked and his private communications illegally acquired by the
>>>> hackers
>>>>( and
>>>>we all saw that evidence which the management said was the reason they
>>>>decided
>>>>to de-list his email address for the time being) and Ebou Jallow's
>>>>posting
>>>>of emails he clearly labels as intercepted private communication to Pa
>>>>Nderry
>>>>was what led me to also suggest that Ebou Jallow should be de-listed
>>>> but
>>>>Malanding offered an explanation that still has me scratching my head.
>>>>
>>>>Jabou Joh
>>>>
>>>>In a message dated 6/7/2006 8:42:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>>[log in to unmask] writes:
>>>>
>>>>List Managers:
>>>>
>>>>I am suggesting that - under the circumstances of Pa Nderry Mbai's
>>>> claim
>>>>of his email account being tampered with lately - Ebou Jallow
>>>>([log in to unmask] and [log in to unmask]) be asked to demonstrate
>>>>to
>>>>the list that he has explicit permission from Pa Nderry Mbai to
>>>> forward
>>>>Mr. Mbai's private messages to the list. Barring any satisfactory
>>>>demonstration (the standard should be obvious to all)by Mr. Jallow, he
>>>>should be immediately delisted in accordance with set rules of the
>>>> list.
>>>>
>>>>I believe it is under the circumstances of Mr. Mbai's claim of illegal
>>>>compromise that his (Mr. Mbai's) email account was delisted - because
>>>> he
>>>>purported to not have control of his email account. It defies logic
>>>> (in
>>>>my
>>>>opinion) to see his private messages being forwarded to the list with
>>>> no
>>>>explicit raising of eyebrows by the list management. Not to my
>>>> knowledge
>>>>so far.
>>>>
>>>>There has been precedent to such behavior on the list and the outcome
>>>>was
>>>>swift and clear to all.
>>>>
>>>>My apolgies if this issue is being dealt with under the shadows.
>>>>
>>>>-BambaLaye
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, June 7, 2006 6:42 pm, Ebou Jallow said:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>*From*: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>*Sent*: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:54 AM
>>>>>*To*: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>*Subject*: Our Private Lives- Pa Nderry an observation please
>>>>>
>>>>>Pa Nderry,
>>>>>
>>>>>I am a visitor to your site. Congrats for setting up the online news
>>>>>service. I enjoy alot going through it .However what is disturbing to
>>>>>me
>>>>>is
>>>>>that people's private lives are constantly dragged into what seems to
>>>>>have
>>>>>no links with issues that are relevant to national development. My
>>>>>first
>>>>>example is mentioning who had a child with Tamsir Jassey and the
>>>>> second
>>>>> is
>>>>>the said report on Ambassador Crispin Johnson. I don't know him but I
>>>>>think
>>>>>it is unfair to disclose his personal life who he is living with, or
>>>>>who
>>>>>he
>>>>>sleeps with, excuse my bluntness. It sounds so ridiculous to me. It
>>>>>makes
>>>>>me
>>>>>wonder do we have some online saints? Really not. Talking about
>>>>>corruption,
>>>>>politics and everything affecting us as a nation is right, but trying
>>>>>to
>>>>>smear others just for the sake of it is something else. Whoever your
>>>>>source
>>>>>is on alledged sexual harassmnet meted out to her by any one should
>>>>>have
>>>>>the
>>>>>guts to speak out, without hiding. Keeping silent entrenches the
>>>>>problem.
>>>>>If
>>>>>it is true, I know it is not only the said ambassador who is guilty
>>>>> of
>>>>>sexual harassment in the Gambia, not only in government, it is every
>>>>>where
>>>>>in our schools, in the private offices, in our houses, in the media.
>>>>> I
>>>>>am
>>>>>presently working on a book to be published in some months ahead and
>>>>>one
>>>>>of
>>>>>the themes explored is sexual harassment in The Gambia.. I am not
>>>>>trying
>>>>>to
>>>>>defend the ambassador becuase I am a government officer but I am
>>>>>writing
>>>>>an
>>>>>independent opinion and certainly as a journalist as well. I know his
>>>>>name
>>>>>casually like the name of any other person of high portfolio in
>>>>>government.
>>>>>Thats all but I feel it is not right to denigrate him on no grounds,
>>>>> I
>>>>>think
>>>>>it is a matter of personal choice whether he lives with his family or
>>>>>alone.
>>>>>In fact most of us are living away from our families outside the
>>>>>country.
>>>>>If
>>>>>he is corrupt or kind of issues that concern us as a nation, why not,
>>>>>belch
>>>>>it out, sure we all need to know, but otherwise, things like who
>>>>> drinks
>>>>>beer
>>>>>or has a girl friend in the corner is not substantiate enough to use
>>>>>valuable time on our newspapers that have such a lofty mission. We
>>>>> have
>>>>>more
>>>>>pressing issues to discuss. I saw no link either with mentioning that
>>>>>Katy
>>>>>Joh had a daughter with Tamsir to national issues.I dont know her but
>>>>> I
>>>>>feel
>>>>>it is equally ridiculous to say that.
>>>>>Most times i feel it so hard to figure out whether I am reading
>>>>> reports
>>>>>or
>>>>>some personal opinions on freedom newspaper on line. A newspaper
>>>>> report
>>>>> is
>>>>>not a page of fiction neither a chapter on a creative novel nor a
>>>>>summary
>>>>>of
>>>>>a boigraphical tale.
>>>>>Therefore Mr. Mbai, I am saying keep up the good work and congrats
>>>>> for
>>>>>establishing the newspaper online. But focus on better issues, we
>>>>> have
>>>>>loads
>>>>>of bags of relevant issues on national developemnt to unload.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mariama Khan
>>>>>Postgraduate student
>>>>>Turin, italy
>>>>>
>>>>>autho- Futa Toro
>>>>>
>>>>>Coauthor -Juffureh Kissing you with hurting lips
>>>>>and Proverbs of The Senegambia
>>>>>
>>>>>Mariama Khan
>>>>>
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