I am happy at Mali's progress in the area of democracy.
--- On Sun, 4/26/09, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: (no subject) / Paripanna / Jatta Njie, on Dramane & Yanks
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 3:20 PM
Paripanna,
Don't you know the Muni-09 elections are going on in Mali as we speak???
Haruna. Life must stop for you to take in the apparitions variously. Now go to
it and report back to us how it comes out! MQJGDT. Darbo.
In a message dated 4/26/2009 2:32:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
"I will assure you that the
best antidote to Green boys is RED Boys," Haruna.
Before I
will accept your assurance Haruna, What are RED Boys?
"When you said "And I think you
(Yanks) are doing more damage at Mr. Darboe's--span>; chances of
becoming president than what you perceived Mr. Drammeh is
doing" you meant that by confronting and educating Dramane on
Ousainou's honour, that Yanks is doing more damage at Mr. Darboe's
chances of becoming President of Gambia than how much Dramane is
affecting Ousainou's chances of becoming President of Gambia, and that
Dramane may be part of the gang of Green boy idiots????,"
Haruna
Again, I repeat: that is why I said when it come to
educating Mr. Drammeh on Lawyer "Darbo's honour" Mr. Mballow did a great
job of that. Why would Yanks escalate it to a confrontational stage
Haruna. That was what I was referring to as a green boys
mentality. Yanks does not have to received Mr. Drammeh's queries from a
personal angle. Lawyer Darbo is a public figure and actively seeking the
presidency and by that he exposed himself to the stringent scrutiny and
criticism of citizens like Mr Drammeh. By the way do you know the green
boys are behind some of the atrocities committed against the independent
Gambian media because they do not want Jammeh to be scrutinized or
criticized neither fairly nor unfairly.
I know we Gambians with
the exception of the misguided green boys, have the intellegence to
conduct our political debate in an intellectual fashion without
resorting to blackmailing, browbeating or insulting our oppenents. And
you my dear brother Masoud, I don't know whether it is your refusal to
go have a good sleep that is throwing you off the cliff of intellectual
political debate down to browbeatng Mr. Drammeh. I am dissapointed in
you too Masoud. But I still like you.
Sincerely,
Lamin
Jatta
--- On Sun, 4/26/09, Haruna Darbo
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From:
Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: (no subject)
/ Paripanna / Jatta Njie, on Dramane & Yanks
To:
[log in to unmask]
Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 9:14
AM
SO we recap Paripanna:
When you said "And I think you (Yanks) are doing more
damage at Mr. Darboe's chances of becoming president than
what you perceived Mr. Drammeh is doing" you meant that by
confronting and educating Dramane on Ousainou's honour, that Yanks is
doing more damage at Mr. Darboe's chances of becoming President of
Gambia than how much Dramane is affecting Ousainou's chances of
becoming President of Gambia, and that Dramane may be part of the gang
of Green boy idiots????
I will assure you that the best antidote to Green boys is RED
Boys.
Haruna.
In a message dated 4/26/2009 3:57:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
(And what is the Green Boys' mentality
Paripanna???) Haruna.
You don't
know what a green boys' mentality is? OK, Here is what I will
recommend that you add to your itinerary for your site seeing
tour to Basse with uncle Suntou: While in the Kombos, before
you leave for Basse, I suggest that you go to Baba
Jobe's compound where you can see and interact with actual
green boys. I know you guys would love to meet the witch
hunters too because both of you are brave men. This experience
will definitely put both of you in a comparable advantage on
your on going debate against the PDOISards. Because you
would have met the actual witch hunters and the green boys
eyeball to eyeball as opposed to Halifa's method of running
after their shadows. Probably they may be gracious to
allow you spent the night at Baba Jobe's Hotel too. Von
voyage!
--- On Sat,
4/25/09, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
From:
Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re:
(no subject) / Paripanna / Jatta Njie, on Dramane &
Yanks
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Saturday,
April 25, 2009, 8:40 PM
Paripanna,
I had shared with JDAM Wandifaa that I am awake even
when I'm asleep. Like Yahya. So I wouldn't worry about
Haruna being sleepy if I were you. C'est la meme chose. I
will share some ideas with you here:
[In a message dated 4/25/2009 6:17:57 P.M. Eastern
Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
Et tu Masoud!] Jatta
Njie.
Bah oui!
[Reading from the last couple of
mails you sent in you sound like somebody sleepy. I do like
your contributions here but not when you sound tired, sleepy
or fixated on Mr. Drammeh.FYI Mr. Mballow had effectively
address the question of Mr. Drammeh.] Jatta
Njie.
Addressed. I think Mballow addresses
Dramane's pannafore on his own behalf. That does not have
much to do with Haruna.
[And you missed my point. My point
was not whether lawyer Darboe becoming president or not; my
point was, there is a sizable segment of the Gambian
population that is tired of this green boys
mentality.] Jatta Njie.
And what is the Green Boys' mentality
Paripanna???
[You get it?] Jatta Njie.
I'm sorry I didn't get it my good
friend.
[Now you too go to
sleep. Will ya?] Jatta Njie.
And what'd I tell you about my sleep
business???? dankuto leh beng tayma. Nka
Malu-ilaleh.
[And before you go to sleep note
that UDP needs to win this segment too.] Jatta
Njie.
I imagine that would be UDP's purview.
Wouldn't you say???
[And I am sorry if this mail come with
no subject. It is not deliberate.] Jatta
Njie.
Don't fret my good lad. Its not
important.
[I am using a blackberry as opposed
to a pc.] Jatta Njie.
I hope you get electrocuted with these
blackberries. Laye is another one who is permanently
tethered to these gadgets. You better be careful. I think
President Obama is unduly burdening himself now that he is
President of the US. If he should ask me, I'll advise he
jettison his blackberry, spruced-up and
all.
[Thanks!] Jatta Njie.
Yeah I love you too gaddamit. Haruna. I
am not pleased with you at this time. Maybe
later.
Haruna Darbo wrote:
> Jatta Njie,
>
> I can assure you Yanks
is not affecting Ousainou's chances of becoming
>
President of Gambia OR NOT becoming President of Gambia.
Yanks is defending the
> honour of his parent against
an uncouth moron.
>
> Go
back to sleep. Ousainou's political demarche for the people
of Gambia
> and his party goes on unabated, whether
that leads him to become President or
> not. The
Presidency is not the overarching desire of such honourable
men as
> Ousainou, Hamat, OJ, Halifa, Hassan Musa,
Waa, or Hon. Fatty.
>
>
Haruna.
>
> In a message
dated 4/25/2009 12:21:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>
[log in to unmask] writes:
>
Frankly,
> I'm very disappointed
that Yanks put up this animated attack
against
> Mr. Drammeh for his
reference to lawyer Darbo as a coward.At this
rate
> you are coming across as one bad
boy Uday Hussein on rehearsal. And I
think
> you are doing more damage at Mr.
Darbo's chances of
becoming
> president than what you
perceived Mr. Drammeh is doing.And
I'm
> urging Mr. Mballow to
discourage that kind of
tone
> coming from an
individual claiming to be an immediate
family
> member of lawyer Darbo. I urge
Mr. Mballow to ask the family of lawyer
Darbo
> to refrain from validating the
accusations that the
Darbos
> are untouchable.
Sincerely, Lamin Jatta Muhammed
> Drammeh
wrote: > I will no longer respond to Yankuba Darboe
unless he
> is prepared to talk about
issues. He does not deserved to to be responded
to.
> Let the members of the L make their
own judgement. He has confirm to the L
>
that his support and defence of Darboe is based on nepotism
which is sad. He
> is still attacking me
personally. Thus this will be my last response to
Yanks
> until he grows up. About your
expectation of Halifa and co taking on
Jammeh
> and removing him from power, I
will respond separately not to you but
the
> members of the L. >
Muhammad Bai Drammeh Bin Alhagie Sheihu
>
Muhammad Lamin Drammeh Bin Muhammad Kanday Drammeh bin
Muhammad Kissima
> Drammeh bin Foday
Drammeh --- On Sat, 25/4/09, yanks dabo
>
<[log in to unmask]> wrote: > From: yanks
dabo
> <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Justice for Lawyer Darboe not
Muhammed
> Drammeh! To:
[log in to unmask] Date: Saturday, 25 April, 2009,
12:50
> AM > "I believe
that Muhammed Drammeh betrayed his own
>
guidelines. Drammeh initially advised that Ousainou should
not be deemed to be
> a coward for seeking
sanctuary at the Senegalese High Commission but then
not
> not only did he, Drammeh,
subsequently personally try to prosecute Ousainou
he
> ultimately went to the extent of
sentencing Ousainou to life on the
>
'Island-of-no-return-from-cowardice'. Seriously, If Ousainou
were a coward or
> a selfish opportunist,
he would have by now joined the APRC regime in
some
> capacity" By Bailo Jallow
Bailo; you speak the language of the quran
in
> the above statement, i could not add
anything more to it. Unfortunately, the
>
only person who is still oblivion to this fact is Mr
Drammeh. As he
> wondered why he was
condemed for his blasphemy. Lord Devlin once said
"
> a rebel is > right in
thinking that he has a right to rebel
>
against society, but he was wrong to think that society
would condone his
> rebellion ".
Mr Drammeh started his diatribe on 5 April 2009
on
> the Gambia post. At first i did not
want to read it or participate in it.
>
But the post was not enough for Mr Drammeh. So he
brought it to the
> Gambia L, who knows
where else he was heading with it, if did hep him to
put
> sense in him, Fredomnewspaper,
BBC, CNN. That was the reason for my
>
timely intervention, which was two weeks later on 17 April
2009.
> Contrary to what Mr Drammeh
struggled to allege, I did not start
by
> attacking him. I started by asking
him to explain what was his yardstick
>
to confirm that Ousainou is a coward. He
never bothered to
> asnwer this. I tried
to help him understand the rational behind
Darboe's
> actions. I even went as far as
explaining to him that what
>
> Ousainou did was not
cowardice but that of a Lawyer exercising
his
> convention right, under the 1951
Geneva convention.
However, just
> as Saihou Mbalow,
Haruna, Suntu, Ginny, and many others had tried
and
> failed, I had also failed
to convince this man that Ousainou
is
> not a coward. However, to make
matters worst and unlike his reactions
to
> others, this ballooney started
fabricating stories about me being chased
by
> Major Bojang. That was very much
uncalled for, then he wondered why i had
to
> go after his lineage. The
simple truth is that Drammeh thinks he is
a
> clever man, but he is a fool! He
claimed that Ousainou is a coward; I
am
> a coward, because i ran away from
Major Bojang; Haruna is a coward, because
he
> wouldn't bother responding to
his emails. So, he expected me to do,
>
what derided, as "the Darboe
thing". This hero boy failed
> to
understand that what he was > insinuating was an
insult to
> all Darboe's without
realising. Yet he finds it offending that
his
> father was dragged into the
banter.
If
> Drammeh only claimed to be a
PDOIS, NADD, sympathiser, our
exchanges
> wouldn't have gone this far.
Simply because, Drammeh, is not the
>
only Talibe of Halifa Sallah in this forum. However,
his difference to
> the rest is that
they know their bounds whilst he doesn't. You
can
> support a party without insulting
others. However, once you attack
or
> insult other people's party, you
cannot expect them to condone your
actions;
> fact. Drammeh could have
done a good job by just stating the fact that
he
> is a PDIOS supporter or even go
further to praise Halifa, Sidia and Sam
>
as the power of trinity . Write books about their bravery
and see if i
> care! As far
as I am concern, if Halifa, Sidia and
Sam
> are that > brave, they
would scold Yahya by the throat
>
and drag him out of State House. But they have not
done that yet,
> have they? So what's
the fuss about their
gallantry?
> As
for the actions of Dr Jaiteh, I do not wish to comment.
I knew
> Dr Jaiteh at Kotu
Bojang's compound in Brikama, i do not think he
would
> remember me now, that's if its the
same Dr Jaiteh. I had high regards for
the
> man then then and will continue
to have that for him now, even if he
>
decides to exclude me from his national bantaba.
I had
> been excluded from the
Gambia post, then Yusupha and
>
George reinstate me few months ago without my
authorisation.
> However, i still chose
not to contribute on there beacuse their
actions
> are only akin to that of
Yahya Jammeh. I hate censureship
and
> cannot see a moral justification for
it. For that reason i commend all those
>
who stand against > it here. I will go silent
for now, but
> will surely come back
if i heard any more Lawyer Darboe
diatribe.
> I rest my case!
Yanks Darboe The Darboe's don't run
and
> are not cowards, simple!!!!
>
>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:50:24 -0700 From:
[log in to unmask] Subject:
> Justice
for Muhammed Drammeh -Thank you To:
[log in to unmask]
> >
Dear All, > > I am
very
> grateful for all your effort in
ensuring my right to participate in the
>
democratic process of The Gambia. >
> Some of
> you disagree with you
but you still want my rights to express myself
restored.
> I cannot say anymore except to
express my gratitude. >
>
> Members of the L know that my attacks on Darboe
were not
> personal at all and all I did
is to talk about issues. My brother Musa
Drammeh
> won two elections for the PPP in
1987 and 1992 in Sandu. My cousin Chondi
>
Drammeh stood for election for the UDP in the 1997
parliamentary election and
> lost. However
much they are attacked I will not take it personally and I
was
> still opposed to the PPP even though
Musa Drammeh was a parliamentary
>
secretary under the Jawara government. I oppose the APRC
government even
> though Susan Waffa-Ogoo
who taught me English Language until I passed
my
> Common Entrance Examination was/is
Secretary of state under Jammeh. My
dad's
> elder brother Alhagie Bineh
Drammeh stood for the GPP in 1987
election.
> Despite my relations with the
above I will not react if they are attacked
for
> their policies. Despite Yankuba
Darboe's relation with Darboe he should
never
> have > reacted the way he
does simply because Darboe is his
>
relative. I only attacked the action of Darboe. As matter of
fact I would not
> have come to this
conclusion should Yankuba Darboe not started trading
in
> insults. I was not allowed to
contribute to the L while Yankuba was allowed
to
> continuously call me a liar. Despite
all these I refrain initially to respond
>
to Yankuba in the way he started. Yankuba went as far as
insulting my Dad who
> has never ran for
office of any sort. Thus there was no need to attack my
dad
> on the grounds of "emotional
reactionarism". Some in in L call me a
PDOIS
> supporter. Yankuba Darboe went as
far as calling me an NIA. He even accused
me
> of being an APRC supporter. No no no
I have never been an NIA never will and
I
> have never supported the APRC and
never will. however my opposition to
Jammeh
> is not geared towards the hatred
of his language grouping. It is geared
>
towards my opposition towards his policies. I still have a
very >
> good relation with Susan
Waffa-Ogoo despite our political difference. The
last
> time I was in The Gambia I even
visited her home. As a matter of fact some
of
> Susan's friend thought that she was
my mum. >
> >
Thus members of the L I support or oppose a parties
simply
> because of policies not because
of "nepotic sentiments". >
> > Members of the L may I
inform you that it was my friend who
>
while in the services of The Gambia Red Cross Society, was
shot dead in
> headquarters of The Gambia
Red Cross Society. This was my friend and his
name
> is Omar Barrow. When I went to The
Gambia in 2004 I visited his widow Awa
>
Sanneh. If there is anyone who should be angry I should
be the angriest.
> I lost a personal
friend. My anger however will never be geared
towards
> the hatred of Jammeh's tribe but
my opposition of his policies. This
is
> what principled people do. They act
and they do not react. I believe in a
>
Gambia of Productive economy, I believe in a Gambia where
labour is rewarded
> and not mere the
labour power being paid for. I believe in a Gambia
where
> every one should live in liberty
dignity and prosperity. I believe in
an
> enlightened Gambia. I believe in the
Gambia where Presidential monarchy is
>
demystified. I believe in The Gambia where > every
one say no
> to exploitation, no to
servitude, no to degradation, no to
>
cowardice, no to political bullying, no to dictatorship, no
to megalomania, no
> to tribalism, no to
nepotism, no to opportunism and no to poverty.
I
> believe in The Gambia where there is
equal opportunity for all. I believe in
>
my life time of in the life time of my grand children this
will happen.
> >
> Members of the L we are all
working
> towards the common good of The
Gambia. We will ever be true to The Gambia.
It
> is time that we start working for The
Gambia. It is time we throw away the
>
vices of tribal sentiments and concentrate on the national
interest. It is
> time for honest leaders
to emerge to at least to support the honest and
brave
> ones we have at the moment. In
Sedia Jatta, Halifa Sallah and Sam Sarr we
have
> honest, brave and principled
leaders and thus they should be supported
despite
> our sentiments. >
> Muhammad Bai Drammeh
Bin
> Alhagie Sheihu Muhammad Lamin
Drammeh Bin Muhammad Kanday Drammeh bin
Muhammad
> Kissima Drammeh bin Foday
Drammeh
>
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