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I was tired. But there's my cousin Fakoo Fakoo. I love you men. Always  
have. Always will. And I don't give a damn whether you believe me or not.
 
Haruna.
 
 
In a message dated 1/27/2011 8:59:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[log in to unmask] writes:

Ok  fellows enough of this debate. We are all Gambians, no one here is 
tribalist.  Suntu, Joe, and Yanks are all good guys. THE ONLY TRIBALIST AND BAD 
PERSON IS  JAMMEH. Sometimes these debates go too far.   


We all have one goal here, TO MAKE SURE THAT JAMMEH IS REMOVED FROM  POWER. 
 We all heading to the same destination but just taking different  routes. 
So we should all work together. LET US ALL MAKE SURE THAT JAMMEH IS  NOT 
ELECTED AGAIN. VOTE FOR THE OPPOSITION  AND LET US DEFEAT HIM. LONG  LIVE THE 
OPPOSITION. 


Regards
Fankung

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Yanks Darboe <[log in to unmask] 
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) >  wrote:

Check history old man

It will prove you  wrong for Jawara was a manding; and 
his main opposition was also a  manding, Sheriff Dibba.

Mandings are not Bayinunkas, calling  themeselves Jolas. 

What's wrong with your old decayed head!!!  

Your nemesis.

 
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:49:55 +0000  
 


From: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 
Subject: Re: Opposition defection  and those claiming they are dead.. what 
is your role? Falaye in mind
To:  [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 

Wow, it it is  getting deep.  At the rate you are going, Sambou may even 
origin  from Mandingo.  What difference does it make?  Tribe is just  an 
accident of birth fool.  I could have been Chinese for what it's  worth.  Yes, my 
world view is beyound tribe and religion.  Thus, I  can be at peace with 
any seetting you put me in the Gambia.  My  assocaition with all tribes in the 
Gambia added value to my  development.  That is why I will never wait for 
harm to be  done by a Jola and be mute about it.  You, however, have  
demonstrated that had Yaya been Mandingo, you will be among the  psycophants around 
him today, murders and all.  No, you waste your  time to dig up history 
about tribal origin.  What a clown.   You sound like a twelve year old.

Joe  
 
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:38:52 +0000
From: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 
Subject: Re: Opposition defection  and those claiming they are dead.. what 
is your role? Falaye in mind
To:  [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 

Old man

You are confused!!!!

Some days you are  a wolof; other days you are a Jola or Aku.

Tell me do you know  who you are?

May be you don't know this Sambou is a Bayinunka surname 
and not  Jola. Have you changed your tribe now??

Check the history  of Sambou.

Your Nemesis!

 
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:31:37 +0000
From: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 
Subject: Re: Opposition defection  and those claiming they are dead.. what 
is your role? Falaye in mind
To:  [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 

Nokey, you make me  laugh.  Now, I can throw you a curve ball at you by 
saying something  that supports your narrow agenda and violla, I will be the 
next best thing  since Mangora and you all will not get enough of me.  The 
same Musa  Jeng you guys hoisted a few days ago is the same person you tried 
labelling  a tribalist, many times before.  Speaking of tribalism, what 
benefit  will I get being a tribalist against Mandingoes?  I am Jolla, you will  
agree with me that all I had to do is to have kept my mouth shut and I would  
be presiding over your faith today, in the Gambia.  I could have kept  my 
mouth shut and be able to zip in and out of Gambia like some of  you.  So, 
what do I get for being anti-Mandingo?  You see how  silly you sound.  If it 
was several years ago you would have  resorted to accusing me of being a 
snitch for Yaya which you know does  not work, especially after more that a 
decade being caught on a lie.   No, Joe is not your problem, the rest of Gambia 
is.  I pointed out the  obvious to you all.  Look at who is in your corner 
and show us  just one person that is non-Mandingo?  Not a sole.  What are  
the ods of me starting a Gambian Soccer Club anywhere in the US  and it be 
solely populated by Jolas?  If it happens, it would not  be an accident but a 
deliberate design and you will be on strong footing to  call it the Jola 
club, which it would be by any means I slice it.  The  strange thing here is you 
folks do not even hide your intensions.  As I  write, you all have not lost 
a beat.  Same bunch patting each other on  the back and you expect folks to 
be silent about it.  No Ndokey, I will  not only call out the elephant in 
the room, but I will also point him out,  and if I was close to it, will 
touch it.  Get use to it.  You are  going to be called what you demonstrate.  
This is a game you bunch will  not win.  

Joe
 
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:49:18 +0000
From: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 
Subject: Re: Opposition defection  and those claiming they are dead.. what 
is your role? Falaye in mind
To:  [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 

Mr Kebbeh

I beg to differ with you that Suntu is a  tribalist. The real tribalist in 
all the Gambian 
online forums is Joe  Sambou. 

Joe simply does not like the mandings. His ardent  adversaries on all the 
forums
are the mandings. The man is simply  anti-manding!!!!

He is foolish to reason so dumb that we will succumb  to his bigotry!

Suntu has every right  to defend his ethnicity and Joe can say whatever he 
likes but 
the real  tribalist is he himself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And i speak from experience  here!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nemesis Yanks

 
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:21:18 -0500
From: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 
Subject: Re: Opposition  defection and those claiming they are dead.. what 
is your role? Falaye in  mind
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 

Mr. bojang,
If there is a tribalist here it is Suntu. Joe is just responding to his  
never ending tribal remarks. You are the only one who miss Suntu's tribal  
slant. He cannot understand we are passed that.... WE ARE ONE GREAT GAMBIA  
UNDER ONE GREAT LEADER. 


On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask] 
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote:

Joe 
 
With the greatest respect, I am more concern about the big  picture. I 
never thought my positing was meant to disarm   you.  My posting was a call for 
truce but if you do not  consider 
it necessary then you are more than welcome to go ahead. One  thing to note 
is that we are all losers in this episode
 
As regards to the point about your brother, I have always known  him as an 
honorable man. I last saw him in 1988 when PDOIS had one  of its political 
rally  next to the Latrikunda Mosque. Given  the type  of man Pa Sambou was, 
I doubt whether he will make  such bizarre remark about his colleague 
Halifa. You are right, I  made no mention of him, but the rationale behind this is 
that  
I was very much concern about the BIGGER PICTURE- 10  months to go and the 
Silent Majority cannot come to an agreement as  to how Jammeh should be 
defeated 
.
Finally, it was nice to note that you remember the days I used  to hang at 
your place. It certainly reminds me of good memories  which I will continue 
to cherish. 





From: Joe Joe <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) >
Subject: Re:  Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what 
is  your role? Falaye in mind
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 

Date:  Thursday, 27 January, 2011, 20:14  
 



Joey, I think you know exactly what I am saying and you know  me better 
than that.  For you to come here to pretend that  you being Krio means UDP UK 
is not demonstrating tribalism is  putting your integrity at stake if it is 
of any value to you.  This has nothing to do with being personate, and your  
supposition to that effect is even an assault to my sensibilities.  When 
Suntou made that stupid comment about Pa that you knew to be  a blatant lie, 
did you interject?  No, you were mute.  In the interest of disclosure, Sanus
i/Joey was a frequent  visitor at my home in Gambia and hung with one of my 
nephews and  knows very well the person Suntou is character assassinating, 
yet,  he stayed mute, but find it convenient to accord blame for my  response.  
Nai Lerr rek, that is all I ask of any.  If  you cannot tame your 
associates, please do not come here to  attempt to disarm.  I am not in the mood for 
that.  


Joe

 
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:59:19 +0000
From: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 
Subject: Re: Opposition  defection and those claiming they are dead.. what 
is your role?  Falaye in mind
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 

Joe 
 
I am only making a call for us to put a stop to this  unnecessay 
squabbling. I for one will never question your  sincerity in the struggle. Whilst, we 
belong to different  parties within the opposition, we share a common goal. 
 
Coming to the issues you have raised, I find it really  unfortunate that 
this is the route we have taken. What I can  say is that people tend to be 
passionate about their  political affiliation to the point that a mere change 
of  distraction may be considered tribalist, but this is  certainly not the 
case. Please note that I am a Krio Boy but  this does not stop me from 
supporting UDP even it is wrongly  perceived as a Mandinga Based Party. 
 
If I have not clarified myself, then I am more happy to  elaborate further. 

--- On Thu, 27/1/11, Joe Joe  <[log in to unmask] 
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) >  wrote:



From: Joe  Joe <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) >
Subject: Re:  Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead..  what 
is your role? Falaye in mind
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 
Date:  Thursday, 27 January, 2011, 19:46

Sanusi, I would hope that you will not want folks to  walk away questioning 
your honesty.  With what you  have seen thus far, can you honestly be 
general in your  comments in the face of what you have read and heard on  the 
airwaves?  If you have difficulty addressing this  bunch because you share a 
party, I can understand.  What I do not understand is you seeing what all see, 
 but choose to unduly spread blame.  Can you honestly  say you do not see 
the tribalism that folks are  discussing, especially, in light of what 
transpired within  the last week of so?  I think you know me better than  you want 
to portray.  


Joe

 
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:34:55 +0000
From: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 
Subject: Re:  Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead..  what 
is your role? Falaye in mind
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 

Kejaw 
 
If this is the way we behave whilst in  opposition then surely the people 
are right to vote  for Jammeh until he reaches 100 years. The current  
situation in the Gambia calls for a sincere and  mature discourse, but off late, I 
am absolutely  disappointed with the route these guys have  undertaken. 
 
The battle will not be won by trading insults  among each other. It 
requires a honest analysis of  the current predicament facing our motherland. 
 
Respect to all you, lets stay united for a  genuine course
 
Alsaamaday 
 
Sanusi 

--- On Thu, 27/1/11, Kejau  Touray <[log in to unmask] 
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) >  wrote:



From:  Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) >
Subject:  Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they  are dead.. what 
is your role? Falaye in  mind
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 
Date:  Thursday, 27 January, 2011, 19:24

Come on guys! You all seem to be missing the  points! One of them being how 
do we transcend our  apparently inherent differences and forge  alliances. 
What are we all missing guys, why can  we never unite and organise as a 
struggle? How  comes we are always fighting amongst ourselves  everyday? How can 
we forget the giant of tasks  before us in trying to restore democracy and 
rule  of law in our country?   



Kejau :-(






 
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:12:06 +0000
From: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 
Subject:  Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they  are dead.. what 
is your role? Falaye in  mind
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 

Come  on Suntou!  You are a tribal and religious  bigot and you have good 
company with you and  please save me from your hypocrisy of being sorry.  
Sorry my foot!  You must elaborate on  what you know about Mr. Sambou for your  
readership.  If he were alive, I will leave  him to fend for himself.  
However, since he  is not here to defend himself, I will speak for  him, leaving 
nothing as sacred.  Also, please  do not make a boldface lie here.  You do 
not  know Mr. Sambou, but the lie you were fed that is  why you could not 
elaborate.  I am also going  beyond the contours of your lie to address the  
tribal nature of your pac.  This is why I  sometimes seriously ponder whether 
if per chance  Yaya was a Mandingo, whether your gang will have  an issue 
with him, murders and all.    


Suntou, you folks are sick. Everything is  about tribe.  Your Gang fought 
the STGDP for  years and labeled it biased against the  UDP/Ousainou, called 
Kebba and Musa tribalists  against Mandingoes, but no sooner did we have  
Banka as the Chairman did you folks have a  Jambadong all over this place 
congratulating the  STGDP.  What you did not realize is you never  bothered to 
know who Banka is and what he stands  for.  You have since realized that 
Banka's  vision for Gambia and our struggle is not in  league with your tribal 
sickness.  It is also  interesting that with Hamat's separation, you are  now 
embarked on cleaning house and ready to  cannibalize on non-Mandingoes 
within the diaspora  UDP chapters.  Folks are aware what what went  on within 
the UDP with Sahou Mballow.  I  bring these anecdotes up to show folks you 
all's  track record.  At a time when Gambians are  supposed to address our 
murderer in Yaya, you  jackasses are here waging a war hinged on  sickness.  All 
you are demonstrating to  Gambians is that you folks are not fit to lead  
any.  You are doing a darn good job  convincing Gambians that you have 
nothing to offer  them.  The sad thing is your sickness is so  deep that you do 
not bother to be subtle about it.  What do we see here daily, the same crop to 
 prowl here, rabid and sick to spread your tribal  disease.  


I feel the pain of many Mandingoes that do  not share your neurosis but are 
put in a funny  position because of an accident in the tribe they  happen 
share with you.  To those folks, I am  here to assure you that no Gambian 
with an ounce  of sense will devalue your contributions in our  struggle and we 
know where your heart lies.  You are also not responsible for the  sickness 
demonstrated by this bunch no more than I  am responsible for the murderer 
in Yaya.  The  only way Gambians can get rid of our murderer is  to 
transcend tribalism.  To Yaya, every  Gambian is just an opportunity or victim for 
him  to stay on and he will cannibalize on the Jola,  just as he will do the 
Mandingo, Wolof, Fula,  Ndjago, Serer, Narr, etc. to achieve his end.  
Suntou, you folks are a disgrace to the  challenges of our people.  


Joe

 
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:49:36 +0000
From: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 
Subject:  Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they  are dead.. what 
is your role? Falaye in  mind
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 

Mr  Sambou
Sorry if my statement that, his  'Christian' name bothered you.  In England 
 such is use to identify people's  first name.  The nurse at Dentist clinic 
nurse never fail to  ask me my Christian name Joe. But then, Joe is  glad 
to shift that as some religious issue.  

Go on, Mr Sambou formerly of PDOIS, did  you know him? Didn't it occur to 
you that, I may  have forgotten his first name? I am not bothered  about your 
agitations Joe. If you are the vanguard  for the Sambou's that is ok. A 
couple of people  have emailed me his first name but to enjoy your  rant, I 
will continue to leave it out.
The late  Mr Sambou was a happy APRC member. May his soul  rest in peace.
Suntou

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Joe Joe  <[log in to unmask] 
([log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]) >  wrote:

Suntou, thanks for your response and I am  glad you are man enough to add 
more details.  It is interesting that you provided a  first name for Darbo 
and Jones, but chose to use  Mr. for Sambou.  Please, stop the cover and  
exclude your Darbo from this discussion.  I  know you lot better.  Also, your 
world view  is wrapped around religious and tribal  demagoguery, thus, your 
hallucination will drive  you to see "My Christianity".  Suntou, I do  not 
just hear a crackle and conclude the sky is  falling.  Thus, I sought your  
clarification.  


Now, the Mr. Sambou you referenced is my  elder brother and not my uncle 
(so much for  knowing a person), and I know you do not know  his name because 
you actually do not know the  man outside what you were fed.  His name is  
Louis Sambou, but commonly called Pa Sambou.  Now, please do not let any 
stone unturned,  for you must tell your readership what you know  about "Mr. 
Sambou", no matter how ugly, in the  interest of truth in discussion.  Anything 
 less will be fraudulent on your part, especially  as you float around 
here, beard and all, as the  most holy and Allah loving.  The good thing  here 
is there are countless here that know the  same person you are trying to 
character  assassinate and they can vouch for you.  


Yes, he was not only with PDOIS, but he was  with the Voice of the Future 
and taught hundreds  of adults to read and write at night, free of  charge 
dating back to the early 70s.  I  will also help you with a time line as you  
gather your dirt.  Mr. Sambou died in March  1999 and Yaya came to power on 
July 22,  1994.
 


"This Mr Sambou commented of Halifa dietery  habits, his love of yogurt was 
name among  brother Sallah delicacy. Isn't that enough clues  Uncle Joe. 
May his soul rest in peace.  Ameen."



Suntou, if you want to say something to  Halifa, just say it.  You do not 
have to  manufacture lies here.  How can you in good  conscience stand here 
and tell this lie just  because you can?  What do you know about  Mr. 
Sambou's separation from PDOIS and how do  you equate it with Rambo's separation 
from the  UDP?  While at it , please educate your  readership on the nature of 
Mr. Sambou's  separation from PDOIS.  That would enhance  your credibility 
as you tell your story.


Suntou, you have an internal demon that is  killing you.  Just to provide 
cover for  Rambo's defection, you will throw around all  kinds of filth.  
Just look at you folks.  For anyone that doubted your tribal  tendencies, they 
will have no recourse but to  acknowledge your tribal neurosis.  I  figured 
out you folks a long time ago, thus, I  alerted Gambians to your ways and 
now you are at  full trottle.  Waedy, Gis Mba Dega  Borkucha!  The moment Musa 
Jeng said what  you all wanted to hear, he is your darling, but  at a flit 
you will not spare the kitchen sink to  cannibalize him at the slightest 
hint he say a  word you do not like about Darbo.  This is  sickness folks.  I 
careless who joins Yaya  for we have passed the conversation regarding a  
coalition and Gambians are looking ahead of  2011.  The more you folks fight 
against any  on a tribal basis, the more you show your  cancer. You are like a 
pac of rabid dogs.  How come everyone that responds with you  all happen to 
be Mandingo?  Who is among  the UDP UK or USA that is vocal among the UDP  
that is non-Mandingo?  Not a sole.  How likely is it that as tribally 
diverse  as Gambian society is, that all of you that come  to howl here about the 
UDP are all Mandingoes?  You all want a discussion, we will have a  
discussion.  It appears that you folks are  loosing your heads and the group 
neurosis you  have displayed and continue to display gave  Gambians pause as to who 
they are dealing with.  I will ignore you bunch until you throw  your filth 
my way.  So yes, we are going to  have a discussion and we will not leave 
stone  unturned.


Joe

 
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:11:35 +0000  
 


From: [log in to unmask] 
([log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]) 
Subject:  Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they  are dead.. what 
is your role? Falaye in  mind
To: [log in to unmask] 
([log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]) 

Yanks
This  is hilarious. I never thought the omission one  Sambou clan will 
cause Uncle Joe to jack his  chin for the Christian name, is Joe the watchdog  
of every Sambou family name. 
I may have  exaggerated Joe knowledge of Gambian politics,  if not he of 
all people should have known which  Mr Sambou cross carpet to APRC from PDOIS 
with  David Jones who once contested as a candidate  for Banjul. Wasn't that 
Mr Sambou among the  early founding members of PDOIS? I want Joe to  ably 
connect the dots. Sorry for the agony, no  one brought your queries to my 
attention it  seems.
This Mr Sambou commented of Halifa  dietery habits, his love of yogurt was 
name  among brother Sallah delicacy. Isn't that enough  clues Uncle Joe. May 
his soul rest in peace.  Ameen.
Suntou

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Yanks  Darboe <[log in to unmask] 
([log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]) >  wrote:

Joe

Old pa why are you asking that question  when you bloody well know the 
answer to that  question.

Its one of your cousins, don't let me  spell his name for  
you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nemesis  Yanks

 
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:04:17 -0600
From:  [log in to unmask] 
([log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]) 
Subject:  FW: Opposition defection and those claiming they  are dead.. what 
is your role? Falaye in  mind
 


To: [log in to unmask] 
([log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]) 

Suntou,  this is a second attempt to seek clarification  as to the Mr. 
Sambou you referenced below.  


Thanks


Joe

 
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From: [log in to unmask] 
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To:  [log in to unmask] 
([log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]) 
Subject:  RE: Opposition defection and those claiming they  are dead.. what 
is your role? Falaye in  mind
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:47:59  -0600

Suntou, someone alerted me to your  mail regarding your reference to a Mr. 
Sambou as  a bad apple.  Since my last name is Sambou,  I was just wondering 
the Mr. Sambou you are  referring to (his first name).

"Sulayman  Darboe, Mr Sambou and some others are perfect  examples of bad 
apples who can't stand the  heat."

Thanks

Joe



 
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:55:14 +0000
From:  [log in to unmask] 
([log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]) 
Subject:  Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they  are dead.. what 
is your role? Falaye in  mind
To: [log in to unmask] 
([log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]) 

Badou
A week is a long time in politics and  talking about unity, Falaye is aware 
of things  happening under his nose, hence zip it on that.  We have enough 
weekly Tele conference with  every serious UDP member in Diaspora every  
Saturday for two to three hours.
Whoever have a serious issue to discuss,  the platform is there adequately. 
However, you  don't have to claim you are PDOIS or APRC. I  understand some 
can sit tightly on the fence and  wish for a level playing field devoid of  
harassment, human rights abuses, equal access to  TV, Radio and a free pres
s etc without being  part of any political group. This is possible  and I 
know brothers who are working toward such  goal. I have attended demos with 
some of this  folks.
However, you cannot curtail any discussion  here or any where in the cyber 
space. Referring  to Rambo's conduct can include all those who did  what he 
just copy. His predecessors are many and  there will be others. It is the 
reality of  dictatorship.
This is prevalent in Sudan, Algeria, Syria,  The South Americas and Africa. 
Even in Europe  people cross carpet, however, for those, they do  it with 
good intentions, not knowingly join a  criminal organisation that at best 
operate a  shadow government.
 
Sulayman Darboe, Mr Sambou and some others  are perfect examples of bad 
apples who can't  stand the heat. Falaye on the hand is  destructive and 
countering the efforts of his  so-call party. If he is not satisfy with the  
party's choice of candidate, doesn't he know  what he should have done? Genuine 
Democrat who  oppose Obama during the primaries rally round  him after his 
selection. You try to work  out things inside your camp. Do I think that,  you 
will find any problem with his double  standard misninforation, I don't 
think so.
There is no need to create a false myriad.  Falaye should air his 
grievances directly to  the UDP executives, UDP able youth  leaders, MPs, Yayai 
Compins, etc. He may  influence things through that.
I careless what you have to say about the  UDP. I have no problem with the 
criticism of  those who are not calling themselves UDP  members. But you 
don't build a house and slowly  start setting fire to it. I have listened to  
Falaye on a couple of occasion, sometimes I  thought Pa doesn't have any 
other independent  voice to speak with about the UDP instead of the  duo who are 
seriously disconnected with current  affairs of the party. 
No wonder Sedia and Halifa said, we "youths  in Diaspora know nothing about 
the situations on  the ground." Their assertions that, we criticise  them 
without lending any form of support is  true. Obama raises his campaign funds 
from  ordinary people and donors. Who is donating to  counter the Yahya 
Jammeh free bank? How many  Gambians will decline a D50,000 when  offered on 
political grounds? Come on, who will?  Let alone when the amount is in 
hundreds of  thousand.
Now, we in the opposition don't have any  such money, but we can at least 
fuel our  vehicles, visit supporters country wide, attend  their ceremonies, 
talk to them. This is the slow  process that can counter Yahya. Gambians are 
not  militant in a serious way. Calling for mass  demonstration is a far 
fetch idea. Let us speak  with the opposition leaders, encourage  them to 
visit voters, donate to PDOIS, UDP,  NRP. The easy blame game is only absolving 
us of  involvement, yet when folks who spend their own  resources, sacrifice 
it all for change commence  to be corrupt we renew another line of  attack.
Gambians can't have their cake and eat.  Ghana, Nigeria have companies now 
that can  do the Europe-America political donations, we  don't. South 
African has businesses that donate  heavily to political parties, we don't.  The 
few individual donations are not enough  to counter Jammeh's long hands. We 
all see him  shamelessly handing raw cash on TV. Is this  kind of politics 
new? Hell no. PPP big wigs use  to do it, Jammeh took it to a higher level, 
with  maximum exposure. Then it use to be bags of  rice, few hundreds.
Let us continue blaming the opposition, it  will bring miracles. Yes, they 
need to be  reminded of the urgency we are all facing. But  what is your 
part in it. You don't even  have to back any opposition by name, just  scramble 
for votes for them in your own way. The  military are enjoying for now. Can 
we depend on  them to rid us of Yahya, it is a wait and see.  How of them 
do we have with us in Diaspora and  how many have we ever heard making plans 
to do  the revolution for us? God is our saving grace,  He is always with 
us, and him Him let us depend  and do our quorter. Thanks
Suntou


On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Banura  Samba <[log in to unmask] 
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Suntou,  I think you need some background information  before jumping into 
conclusion that I am a PDOIS  supporter. I have no idea what you talking  
about. I think you are talking out of   paranoia and confirmation bias.Talking 
about  Sulayman Darboe's defection to APRC is not the  issue here, we 
talking about Rambo. I think we  should be looking for solutions to avoid future  
defections of our party militants than picking  bones with other people.

I think you need  to do your home work very well  before  jumping into 
slippery conclusions who belongs to  UDP or PDOIS.  From your statement below I  
came to understand that you are new in UDP if  not you would have known the 
immense  contribution Falaye did for the UDP party as a  whole.  I think 
you , as you claimed  yourself as the UDP coordinator  in UK  should have 
engaged yourself  with  unification process  than dividing people.  As a  party 
or individual aspiring to lead  our nation , you must be ready to be 
patient,  tolerant, apologetic and above all accommodating  all types of innuendos. 
Veritably,  you are  looking for peoples' support and people are not  
looking for your support.   Falaye, I know  since the hay days of  1996 is 
without  qualm a die-heart supporter of UDP. I have  witness this with my eye, as 
recent as 2009  Falaye have hosted and organized a meeting   for  UDP  in  
New york. So what  are you talking about here, brother?   



 
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Sent: Thu,  January 20, 2011 5:41:23 AM  

Subject:  Opposition defection and those claiming they are  dead.. what is 
your role? Falaye in  mind




Haruna
I thought each of the opposition parties  and the ruling APRC has witness 
cross carpeters  over the years. Hence Badou is miss informed on  his party's 
cross carpeted folks. I can  recall Sulayman Darboe, a  young candidate for 
PDOIS who rented  in our home and then deflected to APRC, One Mr  Sambou 
who left PDOIS even went on to  reveal Halifa's eating habits. 
Rambo with all due respect was chosen as  the youth leader as a gesture to 
his  suffering and the outward potentials he  demonstrated. 
The party was alerted by a good member in  Bakau on Rambo's shortermism 
agenda. He was  monitored and sidelined. Our Youth leaders have  toured the 
country twice without him.
He never toured with the youth leaders,  hence we were prepared for his 
actions.
It is sad to see his short term ambitions  get ahead of his sound 
reasoning. However, Rambo  whatever compel him to join the slow  killer of sick HIV 
victims, shall surface  clearly later.
 
This brings me to the frequent chat on  Freedom radio by a guys call Falaye 
Baldeh. This  man is calling himself a UDP supporter whilst he  knows he is 
not. His assume commentator  title on Gambian politics is fair game but  
let him be honest and call him what he  is.
Serious supporters of UDP advise the party  through the internal mechanism. 
Falaye will not  divulge on his marital woes in the open, he will  not 
relate his short coming in the opening,  why does he think calling himself a UDP 
 supporter and never hesitating to say rubbish  will do?
If he is so militant, what stops him  traveling to Gambia, mobilising the 
supporters  and youths and face Jammeh? 
What money does the opposition have that  Falaye is talking about? We know 
who is pushing  him with the pretentious blah blah. Politics  like all human 
relations goes through ups and  downs, but to hide behind friendly lines 
whilst  being an enemy is the lowest case of evil  manifestation. He is 
entitled to his opinion,  but please let him speak as non-UDP supporter,  so that, 
his criticism will make sense, instead  of taking serious listeners for a 
fool. He has  left trails and his associate have also  left trails. 
When did Falaye extended his hand of  support to the UDP?
When did Falaye wrote or spoke to the  Executives on his worries and 
suggestions?
 
If Falaye thinks that our opposition should  invite Jammeh to a street 
fight, I will expect  him to travel and join in the preparation of  such a move. 
The oppositions can do with the support,  encouragement, criticism and 
presence of  all those calling them dead. What have you  done to enliven the 
dead oppositions?
What suggestions have you demonstrated to  tackle the dictator with a gun, 
tank and  foreigners ready to kill for him and escape to  the other side?
Instead of crying Woolf, be constructive,  join the line, fight. How much 
money did Obama  get and spent to get to the White House? You are  unwilling 
to act and yet quick to blame. How  much support did Ouattara get 
financially to  move around Ivory Coast? People were ready to  spend to make them 
travel. Going on the streets  on Banjul, Serrekunda can make a difference, but  
politically, how do you expect the opposition to  fund their campaigns well 
before elections.  Western Democracies have state funding, yet we  want 
democracy but not with our direct  involvement. Your advise is as good as your  
loyalty and dedication to assist, then you can  blame.
 
Falaye is pretending on the Freedom radio.  His crocodile tears makes no 
sense. The UDP  allows, encourage constructive criticism by its  members, 
channel through the party hierarchy. If  the likes of Falaye are not helping 
strengthen  the base of the oppositions, that have no access  to the radio, 
Television, money, and hardly  any editor will publish critical comments about  
the regime, what help do such an opposition  require? 
Gambia is not the property of any  opposition politician, hence those 
unhappy are  welcome to form their warrior party and lead  the charge, hopefully, 
our hunt for martyrs  will happily come to pass. In Tunis, people were  
ready to act, they didn't just sit in far places  enjoying the niceties and 
continue saying  things, they went out. With or without the  opposition, it is 
a fact that, people can act.  What are Gambians waiting for? You can be  the 
martyr if you chose, we will happily  inscribe you on our chest. Come out  
guys!!!
 
This is not to say, their are no rooms  for improvement, however, do your 
quoter as  well. Everyone needs some form of encouragement  in dealing with 
difficult political climate.  Partisans will obvious be critical of each  
other, but members within the same party require  a civilise constructive 
internal process of  dealing with grievances not the Judaising form  of 
retributions. What our tongues twist, our  hearts manifest.
Suntou




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