Joe-Joe,

Something peeked my interest!!!

Has the Gambian Association of Chicago attempted to work with the UDP, NRP, PPP, GMC, GPDP in their quest to implement their scholarship program????????? And when?? If the scholarship program is still active, do you believe it is worth working with these other parties at any time?????? 

 

 Haruna. Interesting work.


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Abdou, if Halifa was on the right side of history in my view that is how I will call it. When he is in the wrong in my view, that is how I will call it too, no different from my treatment of Ousainou, OJ, Hamat, Henry, or Yaya. When it comes to our national interest, I see no friends, relatives, Kelifa, etc., but what the citizens request. You got me on this one - GYF, what is that? You must excuse my ignorance. There was no PDOIS when I was in Gambia. One thing that none can deny is they work for Gambians regardless of political affiliation seven days a week and every year. In my line of interest in helping the average Gambian living day by day, PDOIS is the perfect partner. The Gambian Association of Chicago for example have tried to work with many groups and individuals to execute their Scholarship Fund, but each was a disappointment. We found a perfect partner in PDOIS. The PDOIS outreach is the group that is the best in my opinion. I support only what is right and who is on the right. In this time of great need for the Gambian electorate, however, PDOIS dropped the ball big time. UDP is also culpable because their lazy attitude is what enabled PDOIS and NRP to have their play. In the end, we, the people, are the losers.
 
Joe 


Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 17:24:19 +0000
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Joe
You never see what is wrong with this Halifa person now you know what is the folding? I and the late Pa Sambou have seen it a long time ago and we when over to strengthen GYF. Gambia does not belong to individual whose thinking is utopian.
 


Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 11:09:02 -0600
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Laye, yes, we, the ELITES in the diaspora are the ones out of touch and helping entrench Yaya, not Ousaunou and Halifa who the nation asked to do for them a simple compromise - Unity for the Sake of Gambians. Their egos can't accommodate the wishes of the people. It is also telling that Halifa would chide those on the outside for not coming to the ground to set up a party. Halifa must be departing from his clarion call that the "Masses are the Makers of History" or "the masses own their destiny". So, in Halifa's view, we have less rights because we are not on the ground. Also, we can only be heard if we agree with him. How is that different from Yaya denying us our franchise? The other thing is, what does it mean to call oneself a leader? If the citizens you wish to lead do not like the way things are handled, they will let you know loud and clear.
 
Regarding the convention and its outcome, how can Halifa deny that it was not predestined? How is that a speculation? Hamat said to all and sundry that he MUST lead any alliance he joins and indeed he has vindicated himself by doing what he promised. Halifa and PDOIS heard Hamat loud and clear, and they set the stage to validate Hamat. They can list rules to wazoo, however, the outcome was determined before any rules were written. You noticed I never said that Mai, Henry, or Sidia would be selected - I loudly said Hamat. In fact, I was engaged by a lieutenant here and I asked him to put his money where his mouth was - that Hamat was indeed going to be the Flagbearer. Where is the need to speculate when Hamat gave us all the information we needed? If Hamat can break from the UDP because of it, what makes anyone including Halifa not see that Hamat will not do it for PDOIS or GPDP? This was crystal clear. Yes, like most things, where PDOIS bit they wil bite to death and insignificant Joe here cannot do anything about it. What I can do that not even PDOIS can stop is to call the stink by its smell. Leaders in the opposition need to understand very clear that the citizens will challenge their assumptions and opinions where ever the people see fit. This is becoming more evident that it is one man, that is insisting he is right and at all times, regardless of the mass voice. We have a problem of two obstacles - Ousainou who insisted on leading and nothing else and Halifa who insisted on managing the show to his liking - Convention. The sad thing here is each managed to stick to their guns with their egos and the citizens are left to hold the bucket. Clearly, this is not about the wishes of the people, but all about them two and it is about time we recognize that. Very disappointing, but this is the last time we would be treated with contempt by any party or its leader. 
 
Joe
 
 
 

> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:06:03 -0600
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> 
> http://maafanta.com/HaliphaSallahOnHaliphaTheStateOfTheOpposition.html
> 
> 
> Foroyaa: Some people are saying that PDOIS has handed over the United
> Front to the NRP. What is your reaction?
> 
> Halifa: The Convention has rules and they are stated in black and
> white. No party candidate or Independent Candidate
> is excluded. If people who consider themselves competent refuse to
> assume their national responsibility then they
> should not caricature the so-called lesser endowed persons who stand
> up to be counted. The people who are failing
> Gambian society are those Gambians in the Diaspora who spend their
> days and nights to attack those who are making
> the supreme sacrifice to combat impunity at home.
> They do not come home to establish political parties to uproot the
> regime but do not reward the little others are doing
> even if it is not enough. It is very clear that the outcome of the
> convention cannot be predicted. Those who make their
> predictions are just speculating. The rules of engagement at the
> convention are as follows:
> 
> 1.1 The United Front shall hold a convention on a day and time
> unanimously agreed by all member parties on the basis
> of 10 delegates per region per party or on any other basis of
> selecting 70 delegates that is acceptable to a party under
> its constitution.
> 
> 1.2 An organising committee comprising a representative from each
> party shall be appointed by the executive or central
> committees of the member parties to be responsible for putting the
> logistics in place to hold the convention.
> 
> 1.3 Each party that wishes to put up a candidate or any Independent
> person who wishes to be a candidate for selection
> by the Convention shall send a letter to the organising committee and
> copy it to all member parties, no later than a day
> before the holding of the convention.
> 
> 1.4 A public announcement shall be made of the date and venue of the
> convention.
> 
> 1.5 Each Independent Candidate is entitled to two delegates, one to
> propose his or her nomination and the other to
> second the motion.
> 
> 1.6 Each party candidate shall be nominated by the party and the
> nomination shall be seconded by another party
> member who is a delegate.
> 
> 1.7 Each delegate shall have one vote and shall be entitled to cast
> that vote in secret. Each candidate shall be entitled
> to address the delegates on the merits of his or her candidature.
> 
> 1.8 No person shall be selected as a presidential candidate on the
> first ballot unless he or she has more than fifty
> percent of the votes validly cast at the convention.
> 
> 1.9 Should no person have fifty percent of the votes cast in the
> first round, the two persons who have the highest and
> second highest number of votes shall participate in the second round.
> 
> 1.9.1 In the second round of voting the person with the highest number
> of votes would be the presidential candidate.
> 
> 1.9.2 Upon selection of the Presidential Candidate a committee comprising the
> representatives of the executives of each member party and the
> Presidential candidate shall engage in consultation to
> select a running mate. The running mate shall be selected by consensus
> giving due regard to the value he or she could
> add to the ticket to enhance a successful outcome.
> 
> 1.9.3 Upon winning an election under the United Front, the President
> and Vice President shall serve one five year term
> and at the end of the five years, shall neither seek a second mandate
> nor show preference for any presidential
> candidate in the next following Presidential election.
> 
> 1.9.4 Constitutional amendments shall be promulgated to ensure that
> all subsequent presidents shall serve no more
> than two terms as President of the Republic of The Gambia .
> 
> ========================================================================================================================
> 
> --
> -Laye
> ==============================
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