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Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
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Paripanna,
Don't you know the Muni-09 elections are going on in Mali as we speak???
Haruna. Life must stop for you to take in the apparitions variously. Now go
to  it and report back to us how it comes out! MQJGDT. Darbo.


In a message dated 4/26/2009 2:32:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:

"I will assure you that the  best antidote to Green boys is RED Boys,"
Haruna.

Before I  will accept your assurance Haruna, What are RED Boys?

"When you said "And I think you  (Yanks) are doing more damage at Mr.
Darboe's--span>; chances of  becoming  president than what you perceived Mr.
Drammeh is  doing" you meant that by confronting and educating Dramane on
Ousainou's honour, that Yanks is doing more damage at Mr. Darboe's  chances of
becoming President of Gambia than how much Dramane is  affecting Ousainou's
chances of becoming President of Gambia, and that  Dramane may be part of the
gang of Green boy idiots????,"  Haruna

Again, I repeat: that is why I said when it come to  educating Mr. Drammeh
on Lawyer "Darbo's honour" Mr. Mballow did a great  job of that. Why would
Yanks escalate it to a confrontational stage  Haruna. That was what I was
referring to as a green boys  mentality. Yanks does not have to received Mr.
Drammeh's queries from a  personal angle. Lawyer Darbo is a public figure and
actively seeking the  presidency and by that he exposed himself to the
stringent scrutiny and  criticism of citizens like Mr Drammeh. By the way do you
know the green  boys are behind some of the atrocities committed against the
independent  Gambian media because they do not want Jammeh to be
scrutinized or  criticized neither fairly nor unfairly.

I know we Gambians with  the exception of the misguided green boys, have
the intellegence to  conduct our political debate in an intellectual fashion
without  resorting to blackmailing, browbeating or insulting our oppenents.
And  you my dear brother Masoud, I don't know whether it is your refusal to
go have a good sleep that is throwing you off the cliff of intellectual 
political debate down to browbeatng Mr. Drammeh. I am dissapointed in  you too
Masoud. But I still like you.
Sincerely,
Lamin  Jatta





--- On Sun, 4/26/09, Haruna Darbo  <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


From:  Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: (no subject)  / Paripanna / Jatta Njie, on Dramane & Yanks
To:  [log in to unmask]
Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 9:14  AM


SO we recap Paripanna:

When you said "And I think you (Yanks) are doing more  damage at Mr.
Darboe's  chances of becoming  president than  what you perceived Mr. Drammeh is
doing" you meant that by  confronting and educating Dramane on Ousainou's
honour, that Yanks is  doing more damage at Mr. Darboe's chances of becoming
President of  Gambia than how much Dramane is affecting Ousainou's chances of
becoming President of Gambia, and that Dramane may be part of the gang  of
Green boy idiots????

I will assure you that the best antidote to Green boys is RED  Boys.
Haruna.


In a message dated 4/26/2009 3:57:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:

(And what is the Green Boys' mentality  Paripanna???) Haruna.

You don't   know what a green boys' mentality is? OK, Here is what I will
recommend that you add to your itinerary for your site seeing  tour to Basse
with uncle Suntou: While in the Kombos, before  you  leave for Basse, I
suggest that you go to Baba  Jobe's compound where you can see and interact
with actual  green boys. I know you guys would love to meet the witch  hunters
too because both of you are brave men. This experience  will definitely put
both of you in a comparable advantage on  your on going debate against the
PDOISards. Because you  would have met the actual witch hunters and the
green boys  eyeball to eyeball as opposed to Halifa's method of running  after
their shadows.  Probably they may be gracious to  allow you spent the night
at Baba Jobe's Hotel too. Von  voyage!




--- On Sat,  4/25/09, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>  wrote:


From:  Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re:  (no subject) / Paripanna / Jatta Njie, on Dramane &  Yanks
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Saturday,  April 25, 2009, 8:40 PM


Paripanna,
I had shared with JDAM Wandifaa that I am awake even  when I'm asleep. Like
Yahya. So I wouldn't worry about  Haruna being sleepy if I were you. C'est
la meme chose. I  will share some ideas with you here:

[In a message dated 4/25/2009 6:17:57 P.M. Eastern  Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
Et tu Masoud!] Jatta  Njie.

Bah oui!

[Reading from the last couple of  mails you sent in you sound like somebody
sleepy. I do like  your contributions here but not when you sound tired,
sleepy  or fixated on Mr. Drammeh.FYI Mr. Mballow had effectively  address the
question of Mr. Drammeh.] Jatta  Njie.

Addressed. I think Mballow addresses  Dramane's pannafore on his own
behalf. That does not have  much to do with Haruna.

[And you missed my point. My point  was not whether lawyer Darboe becoming
president or not; my  point was, there is a sizable segment of the Gambian
population that is  tired of this green boys  mentality.] Jatta Njie.

And what is the Green Boys' mentality  Paripanna???

[You get it?] Jatta Njie.

I'm sorry I didn't get it my good  friend.

[Now you too go to  sleep.  Will ya?] Jatta Njie.

And what'd I tell you about my sleep  business???? dankuto leh beng tayma.
Nka  Malu-ilaleh.

[And before you go to sleep note  that UDP needs to win this segment too.]
Jatta  Njie.

I imagine that would be UDP's purview.  Wouldn't you say???

[And I am sorry if this mail come with  no subject. It is not deliberate.]
Jatta  Njie.

Don't fret my good lad. Its not  important.

[I am using a blackberry as opposed  to a pc.] Jatta Njie.

I hope you get electrocuted with these  blackberries. Laye is another one
who is permanently  tethered to these gadgets. You better be careful. I think
 President Obama is unduly burdening himself now that he is  President of
the US. If he should ask me, I'll advise he  jettison his blackberry,
spruced-up and  all.


[Thanks!] Jatta Njie.

Yeah I love you too gaddamit. Haruna. I  am not pleased with you at this
time. Maybe  later.

Haruna Darbo wrote:
>  Jatta Njie,
>
>  I can assure you Yanks  is not affecting Ousainou's chances of becoming
>  President of Gambia OR NOT becoming President of Gambia.  Yanks is
defending the
> honour of his parent against  an uncouth moron.
>
>  Go  back to sleep. Ousainou's political demarche for the people  of
Gambia
> and his party goes on unabated, whether  that leads him to become
President or
> not. The  Presidency is not the overarching desire of such honourable 
men as
> Ousainou, Hamat, OJ, Halifa, Hassan Musa,  Waa, or Hon. Fatty.
>
>   Haruna.
>
>  In a message  dated 4/25/2009 12:21:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>  [log in to unmask] writes:
>   Frankly,
>   I&#39;m very disappointed  that Yanks put up this animated attack
against
>   Mr. Drammeh  for his  reference to lawyer Darbo as a coward.At this 
rate
>   you are coming across as one bad  boy Uday Hussein on rehearsal. And I
think
>   you are doing more damage at Mr.  Darbo&#39;s  chances of  becoming
>   president than what you  perceived  Mr. Drammeh is doing.And  I&#39;m
>   urging Mr. Mballow to   discourage   that kind of  tone
>   coming from an  individual  claiming to be an  immediate  family
>   member of lawyer Darbo. I urge  Mr. Mballow to ask the family of lawyer
 Darbo
>   to refrain from validating the  accusations that the      Darbos
>   are untouchable.    Sincerely, Lamin Jatta Muhammed
>   Drammeh  wrote: > I will no longer respond to Yankuba Darboe  unless he
>   is prepared to talk about  issues. He does not deserved to to be
responded  to.
>   Let the members of the L make their  own judgement. He has confirm to
the L
>    that his support and defence of Darboe is based on nepotism  which is
sad. He
>   is still attacking me  personally. Thus this will be my last response
to  Yanks
>   until he grows up. About your  expectation of Halifa and co taking on
Jammeh
>   and removing him from power, I  will respond separately not to you but
the
>   members of the L. >   Muhammad Bai Drammeh Bin Alhagie Sheihu
>    Muhammad Lamin Drammeh Bin Muhammad Kanday Drammeh bin  Muhammad
Kissima
>   Drammeh bin Foday  Drammeh --- On Sat, 25/4/09, yanks dabo
>    <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >  From: yanks  dabo
>   <[log in to unmask]>  Subject: Justice for Lawyer Darboe not
Muhammed
>   Drammeh! To:  [log in to unmask] Date: Saturday, 25 April,
2009,  12:50
>   AM >    "I believe  that Muhammed Drammeh betrayed his own
>    guidelines. Drammeh initially advised that Ousainou should  not be
deemed to be
>   a coward for seeking  sanctuary at the Senegalese High Commission but
then  not
>   not only did he, Drammeh,  subsequently personally try to prosecute
Ousainou  he
>   ultimately went to the extent of  sentencing Ousainou to life on the
>    'Island-of-no-return-from-cowardice'. Seriously, If Ousainou  were a
coward or
>   a selfish opportunist,  he would have by now joined the APRC regime in
some
>   capacity" By Bailo Jallow    Bailo; you speak the language of the quran
 in
>   the above statement, i could not add  anything more to it.
Unfortunately, the
>    only person who is still oblivion to this fact is Mr  Drammeh. As he
>   wondered why he was  condemed for his blasphemy.   Lord Devlin once
said  "
>   a rebel is >  right in  thinking that he has a right to rebel
>    against society, but he was wrong to think that society  would condone
his
>   rebellion ".  Mr Drammeh started his diatribe on 5 April 2009  on
>   the Gambia post. At first i did not  want to read it or participate in
it.
>    But the post was not enough for Mr Drammeh. So he  brought it to the
>   Gambia L, who knows  where else he was heading with it, if did hep him
to  put
>   sense in him, Fredomnewspaper,  BBC, CNN. That was the reason for my
>    timely intervention, which was two weeks later on 17 April  2009.
>   Contrary to what Mr Drammeh  struggled to allege, I did not start  by
>   attacking him. I started by asking  him to explain what was his
yardstick
>    to confirm that Ousainou is a coward. He  never bothered to
>   asnwer this. I tried  to help him understand the rational behind
Darboe's
>   actions. I even went as far as  explaining to him that what  >
>   Ousainou did was not  cowardice but that of a Lawyer exercising  his
>   convention right, under the 1951  Geneva convention.    However, just
>   as Saihou Mbalow,  Haruna, Suntu, Ginny, and many others had tried  and
>   failed, I had also failed  to convince this man that Ousainou  is
>   not a coward. However, to make  matters worst and unlike his reactions
to
>   others, this ballooney started  fabricating stories about me being
chased  by
>   Major Bojang. That was very much  uncalled for, then he wondered why i
had  to
>   go after his lineage.   The  simple truth is that Drammeh thinks he is
a
>   clever man, but he is a fool! He  claimed that Ousainou is a coward; I
am
>   a coward, because i ran away from  Major Bojang; Haruna is a coward,
because  he
>   wouldn't bother responding to  his emails. So, he expected me to do,
>    what derided, as "the Darboe  thing". This hero boy failed
>   to  understand that what he was >  insinuating was an  insult to
>   all Darboe's without  realising. Yet he finds it offending that  his
>   father was dragged into the  banter.        If
>   Drammeh only claimed to be a  PDOIS, NADD, sympathiser, our  exchanges
>   wouldn't have gone this far.  Simply because, Drammeh, is not the
>    only Talibe of Halifa Sallah in this forum. However,  his difference to
>   the rest is that  they know their bounds whilst he doesn't. You  can
>   support a party without insulting  others.   However, once you attack
or
>   insult other people's party, you  cannot expect them to condone your
actions;
>   fact. Drammeh could have  done a good job by just stating the fact that
 he
>   is a PDIOS supporter or even go  further to praise Halifa, Sidia and Sam
>    as the power of trinity . Write books about their bravery  and see if i
>   care!    As far  as I am concern, if Halifa, Sidia and  Sam
>   are that >  brave, they  would scold Yahya by the throat
>    and drag him out of State House. But they have not  done that yet,
>   have they? So what's  the fuss about their  gallantry?
>     As  for the actions of Dr Jaiteh, I do not wish to comment.  I knew
>   Dr Jaiteh at Kotu  Bojang's compound in Brikama, i do not think he
would
>   remember me now, that's if its the  same Dr Jaiteh. I had high regards
for  the
>   man then then and will continue  to have that for him now, even if he
>    decides to exclude me from his national bantaba.    I had
>   been excluded from the  Gambia post, then Yusupha and
>    George reinstate me few months ago without my  authorisation.
>   However, i still chose  not to contribute on there beacuse their
actions
>   are only akin to that of  Yahya Jammeh.   I hate censureship  and
>   cannot see a moral justification for  it. For that reason i commend all
those
>    who stand against >  it here. I will go silent  for now, but
>   will surely come back  if i heard any more Lawyer Darboe  diatribe.
>     I rest my case!  Yanks Darboe   The Darboe's don't run  and
>   are not cowards, simple!!!!    >
>    Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:50:24 -0700 From:  [log in to unmask]
Subject:
>   Justice  for Muhammed Drammeh -Thank you To:
[log in to unmask]
>   >   Dear All, >    >  I am  very
>   grateful for all your effort in  ensuring my right to participate in the
>    democratic process of The Gambia. >     >  Some of
>   you disagree with you  but you still want my rights to express myself
restored.
>   I cannot say anymore except to  express my gratitude. >
>    >  Members of the L know that my attacks on Darboe  were not
>   personal at all and all I did  is to talk about issues. My brother Musa
 Drammeh
>   won two elections for the PPP in  1987 and 1992 in Sandu. My cousin
Chondi
>    Drammeh stood for election for the UDP in the 1997  parliamentary
election and
>   lost. However  much they are attacked I will not take it personally and
I  was
>   still opposed to the PPP even though  Musa Drammeh was a parliamentary
>    secretary under the Jawara government. I oppose the APRC  government
even
>   though Susan Waffa-Ogoo  who taught me English Language until I passed
my
>   Common Entrance Examination was/is  Secretary of state under Jammeh. My
 dad's
>   elder brother Alhagie Bineh  Drammeh stood for the GPP in 1987
election.
>   Despite my relations with the  above I will not react if they are
attacked  for
>   their policies. Despite Yankuba  Darboe's relation with Darboe he
should  never
>   have >  reacted the way he  does simply because Darboe is his
>    relative. I only attacked the action of Darboe. As matter of  fact I
would not
>   have come to this  conclusion should Yankuba Darboe not started trading
 in
>   insults. I was not allowed to  contribute to the L while Yankuba was
allowed  to
>   continuously call me a liar. Despite  all these I refrain initially to
respond
>    to Yankuba in the way he started. Yankuba went as far as  insulting my
Dad who
>   has never ran for  office of any sort. Thus there was no need to attack
my  dad
>   on the grounds of "emotional  reactionarism". Some in in L call me a
PDOIS
>   supporter. Yankuba Darboe went as  far as calling me an NIA. He even
accused  me
>   of being an APRC supporter. No no no  I have never been an NIA never
will and  I
>   have never supported the APRC and  never will. however my opposition to
 Jammeh
>   is not geared towards the hatred  of his language grouping. It is geared
>    towards my opposition towards his policies. I still have a  very >
>   good relation with Susan  Waffa-Ogoo despite our political difference.
The  last
>   time I was in The Gambia I even  visited her home. As a matter of fact
some  of
>   Susan's friend thought that she was  my mum. >
>   >   Thus members of the L I support or oppose a parties  simply
>   because of policies not because  of "nepotic sentiments". >
>   >  Members of the L may I  inform you that it was my friend who
>    while in the services of The Gambia Red Cross Society, was  shot dead
in
>   headquarters of The Gambia  Red Cross Society. This was my friend and
his  name
>   is Omar Barrow. When I went to The  Gambia in 2004 I visited his widow
Awa
>    Sanneh. If there is anyone who should be angry I should  be the
angriest.
>   I lost a personal  friend. My anger however will never be geared
towards
>   the hatred of Jammeh's tribe but  my opposition of his policies. This
is
>   what principled people do. They act  and they do not react. I believe
in a
>    Gambia of Productive economy, I believe in a Gambia where  labour is
rewarded
>   and not mere the  labour power being paid for. I believe in a Gambia
where
>   every one should live in liberty  dignity and prosperity. I believe in
an
>   enlightened Gambia. I believe in the  Gambia where Presidential
monarchy is
>    demystified. I believe in The Gambia where >  every  one say no
>   to exploitation, no to  servitude, no to degradation, no to
>    cowardice, no to political bullying, no to dictatorship, no  to
megalomania, no
>   to tribalism, no to  nepotism, no to opportunism and no to poverty.  I
>   believe in The Gambia where there is  equal opportunity for all. I
believe in
>    my life time of in the life time of my grand children this  will
happen.
>   >     >  Members of the L we are all  working
>   towards the common good of The  Gambia. We will ever be true to The
Gambia.  It
>   is time that we start working for The  Gambia. It is time we throw away
the
>    vices of tribal sentiments and concentrate on the national  interest.
It is
>   time for honest leaders  to emerge to at least to support the honest
and  brave
>   ones we have at the moment. In  Sedia Jatta, Halifa Sallah and Sam Sarr
we  have
>   honest, brave and principled  leaders and thus they should be supported
 despite
>   our sentiments. >   >  Muhammad Bai Drammeh  Bin
>   Alhagie Sheihu Muhammad Lamin  Drammeh Bin Muhammad Kanday Drammeh bin
Muhammad
>   Kissima Drammeh bin Foday  Drammeh
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