LJD, as always I have utmost for you and many UDP leaning folks, but where have I mentioned anything that resembles shutting down broader discussion on this subject?
In fact what discourages any negotiation or participation in this discussion is calling the very people you need to talk to names... Time and again, one after the other Daffeh in the name of UDP has called people the likes of Sedia, musa jeng, banka, not to mention Halifa and no one on the UDP side stop or caution him not even LJD.
As you said let's call it what it is... Yes Halifa and agenda 2011 have presented a challenge to a possible coalition, so is UDP's position insisting on Party led coalition with any tangible accommodations to others, without taking the lead and rallying everybody behind them and then face a serious negotiation with those resisting...
It is unrealistic to expect people to embrace a coalition without a road maps, it is unfair even for Darboe for people to keep dismissing the very people he wants to negotiates.
It is time cool heads like you LJD step up and redirect the vision for the UDP... Clueless chaps like Daffeh should never be left to single handedly speak for UDP and no one dear challenge him for his naïve attitude. Privately many acknowledge his inexperience and clueless jump on the stage at the detriment of his party and Gambian opposition...
So if anything is shutting down discussions it is the likes of Daffeh and you must call it for what it is .. Self destructive...
Demba
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Demba, and Musa
In an ideal world, your views are incontestable, but the stakes are too high to discourage a robust exchange of ideas. As residents of the USA, I am in no doubt you are well aware of this.
Agenda 2011 is an all or nothing proposal, and I think you should worry more about Halifa than Ousainou, or any other opposition leader in The Gambia, as far as a united front against the Professor. Through Agenda 2011, Halifa, and PDOIS, created a major roadblock to opposition unity, and effectively ensured some fragmentation in opposition ranks on November 24. God willing, I shall dilate on this contention.
I think we should learn to call things by their names, and no amount of dancing around the edges of our difficulties is likely to solve the problems we must confront one way or the other.
LJDarbo
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Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Friday, 29 April, 2011, 23:00
Suntou, absolutely every one in thr frontline knows the stakes. I believe long time ago that a meeting between party reps should take place without the main leaders who are holding this.
Those reps will iron the issues, outline the points of contention and draft a path forward. If we believe that jammeh should not be the supreme leader of our country, we must expect the same of our other aspiring leaders, they must consent to the will of the people or get push aside... No blind loyalty without results.
Brother Swaibou is a leader and credible one too and he does't have to go through this!! Where there is will there is a way!
Demba
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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 22:41:10 +0100
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Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
Musa
I agree. The problem now is a window to make the guys talk. They can strengthen each other in many ways. As far I am aware, all of the leaders without a doubt know the enormous challenges they are facing. All sides should push for a middle ground, a common consensus on dialogue and accepting facts on the ground. The Gambia is changing fast. With Satellite disk in many households, global events are creating a tremendous awakening. Some are saying, GRTS is hardly watched by those with Satellite, which means, the work is cut out for the opposition if they speak with one voice.
Let us all continue creating the environment in ending suspicion and hostility.
Suntou
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Musa Jeng <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Suntou:
It is indeed another disappointing result, but no surprises as long as we stick to the same strategy. The opposition will continue to lose elections as long as they refuse to make the bold concession- the very thing that the electorate will know can win. The biggest misconception or miscalculation, that somehow just putting up one party against the incumbent will prevent the splitting of the vote and can help the opposition. The opposition will continue to lose elections unless they exploit to the fullest the benefit of coalition of all parties.
I am absolutely confident that if the entire opposition leadership spent two days in Wuli, and I am talking about Hamat, Sedfia, Halifa, OJ and Ousainou, and speak directly to the people of Wuli why they should vote for the opposition and not the incumbent, the results will be completely different.
It is sad that even as we see the train wreck fast approaching, we will rather wait for our demise than do something about it. If this is not insanity – I am afraid to see the real insanity. Again Gentlemen, the pointing of fingers at each other is the easiest thing to do, of course burying our head in the sand will never help our predicament, and finally coming up with all sort of spinning to suityour own agenda does nothing to a disappointed electorate. The question is as a leader what will you do about it?
Musa Jeng
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This is a disappointing news for our area people. Wulli East area has always gone for the incumbent party, since the times of Sainey Singhateh, Malang Saho etc. Wulli West is the more determine and militant region of the two. Suwaibou is well known in that area, I wonder what he should do to penetrate the elders and their local structures. I am sad for him, because he would have been a good MP.
I wonder whether his campaign team made use of the more active militants in Nyaikoi area. The signs were there that, going for the incumbent is a harden mole in Wulli East, I thought the Agenda 2011 would have dislodged such mindsets. Seriously, I was expecting a narrow marginal win for Suwaibou, but hey next time. I wish him all the best for the upcoming general elections.
Suntou
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:13 PM, M. Gassama <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi!
The results have just been announced on GRTS confirming Gainako's
figures. Have a good evening.
Buharry.
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Unofficial results of the bye-elections in Wuli East has been
leaked!
Results at: http://www.gainako.com/news/
Thanks
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