Oh Daffeh, get off of it! Where and when did I mention PDOIS? I said Ousainou, Halifa, and Sidia but you manage to only read Halifa and PDOIS. That is a sickness that you will have to deal with. Yes, Ousainou can stick to his guns, I guess that is why your fellow UDP comrades had enough of you and Ousainou's Grand Strategy to attempt to form a militia. If I am irratic, then certainly you got the ear of Ousainou to advise him that Suntou, Yanks, Bamba, Bayo, et al were erratic. Yes, keep advising Ousainou and Ousainou will find out that Gambians do not have time to waste on him. We are in agreement on that score. You and Hamat can go to hell!
Joe
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 03:01:04 +0100
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [G_L] When Dr (PhD) Became Personal Pleasure seeking: Gambian Dr Under attack
To: [log in to unmask]
Hey Joe, we do have the balls to tell Ousainou the obvious but 'the obvious' to us means he should stick to his guns and never listen to erratic hysterics like yourself.
Now that you've stated the reason why you would like to omit Hamat, I have no further issue to take up with you because you are not my issue. I was only pointing out the hyperbole some people like us to believe about PDOIS and Halifa as true. I now leave you to continue with your gibrishism.
Thanks
Daffeh
On Friday, 2 August 2013, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> There you go again Daffeh. You mean to tell me you do not know the obvious reason why I did not include Hamat Bah in what I was saying? The operational word is integrity and you and the UDP had your fair share of Hamat. Thd fact of the matter is you do not have the balls to tell Ousainou the obvious, can you? Why do you think your fellow UDP gang looked into that option under the banner of Bayo? Precisely because they were fed up with the constructive engagement BS that is neither here nor there. Continue with your sectional interests and see whether Yaya wil not be there for the next twenty years. You were not who I had in mind, are you? Aside from running your mouth as the UDP mouthpiece, what have you done here that is tangible? Daffeh, you are not my issue.
>
> Joe
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:47:31 +0100
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [G_L] When Dr (PhD) Became Personal Pleasure seeking: Gambian Dr Under attack
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Joe, how can you talk about the masses and yet give importance to Halifa over Hamat?? I think if you look at the electoral statistics, you will find that Hamat and the NRP have proven to be a bigger political force with a bigger support base than Halifa and PDOIS.
>
> You always like to be seen talking straight but unfortunately, your grasps of the facts on the ground is dismal. The NRP of Hamat Bah is the second largest opposition party in The Gambia after UDP. This is an incontrovertible fact.
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> Now, I will not lead the charge for you to go back home and lead the people because you will be utterly useless as already, you have proven yourself not to be fit for purpose; a bit like a damp squid.
>
> Know your facts and learn to accept them. This nonsense about giving Halifa what he never earned at the polls needs to stop so that people can concentrate on facts rather than fiction, hyperboles or pernicious glib or groundless political commentary.
>
> Thanks
> Daffeh
>
> On Thursday, 1 Aug fitust 2013, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Suntou, I agree with the author. We cannot cherry pick those we castigate and those we cuddle for similar behavior. I'm glad there are those that saw the need for equity in our affairs. There has been well meaning folk who for some reason cannot or refuse to connect the dots when it is very very obvious. It is not rocket science to see that all these folks listed are on the same boat and we talk about one, we must talk about all. Now, there are folks here who have dealt with all these prostitutes, past and current and their opinions litter this landscape and am sure the author knows that. The majority of us must be seen to do just that if we are to shape the Gambia of tomorrow. After hundreds of murders and disappearances and all sorts of criminal activity, we need to stop saying what these folks engaged in were/are a mistake. One runs the risk of their integrity being questioned when they full well know what is going on is pure greed and nothing else, yet, they for reasons best known to them continue to peddle lies. The author talked about hypocrisy/Maslahaa and he cannot be more correct. The level of hypocrisy is sickening. I also agree with the author that we will wait a long time time for Yaya to be gotten rid off by Gambians in the inside. That can only change base on what the opposition leaders do. I am not talking about the opportunists among the leaders, but those with integrity. Their attitude to change must change if we are to get rid of Yaya now, as oppose to his natural death.
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>> Those leaders need to stop believing they can rehabilitate, reason, joke, or teach a dictator worthy of his salt. Love, education, democracy, and laughter has never gotten rid of a dictator and they will not be the first to achieve that in the history of humanity. The army should have been the place to get rid of him, but currently Yaya is one and the same with the army. A minute on the Army. We say that Yaya is putting Jolas as the higher ups in the army, but the majority in the army are not Jolas? That majority can do something about Yaya, but for the greed the author talked about. They are all looking for crumbs and titles and have no time to think about getting rid of Yaya, just like the Jolas surrounding him.
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