Good folks, This is a healthy and progressive conversation, the kind that makes one sit down to cry in happiness and yearn for more unity among us. Trust me, Gambians are educated, talented, and can make a difference. We have the capability to get to space just like other nations did. I am at once for the first time in years beginning to be prouder of being a Gambian after some of the heart-breaking moments, and like Halifa would say, "Citizenship cannot be accident." Along the lines and as we are making progress, lets think about when things gets ugly as online has brought as much good as it brough division. A team in place that oversees such a task would be great. As we keep searching for the right answers, we will discover them on our part. We must celebrate one another in our little potentials. This is certainly a defeat to Jammeh's tyranny. It does have that power to push Jammeh to the corner, and we all know things always happen for a reason, and for a good reason too. Anyway, do not be afraid of being criticized and told what to do. If anyone is scared of being told what to do, you are probably not fit to lead. You must willingly filter ideas and not be a bully to any little fly that tries to make an opinion about a process. Like the mentors say, "Go forth & conquer!" Best Regards,Yero
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:54:04 -0700
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] Imam Baba Leigh - 10 lawyer & Defense Funds $200 pledge?????
To: [log in to unmask]
Demba and LJDI will support the initiative put forth by the majority. It looks like Demba already consulted Banka no issue there. Thank you.Sariang
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On Mar 25, 2013, at 12:36 AM, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
As you Americans would say, thanks for the heads up Sariang.
Indeed Banka and others were so involved, and I have contributed $50 to the Imams Baba Leigh and Bakawsu Fofana fund drive through Banka himself. Like Demba informed Yero before, that fund drive has the temporal remit of financially assisting the two families whilst their key bread earners were away. There is absolutely no conflict but Banka is right
here reading all these conversations. If my understanding, and that of Demba, are off tangent, there is no stopping Banka from clarifying. His silence must be suggestive of a lack of duplication.
LJDarbo
From: Sariang Marong <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, 25 March 2013, 3:10
Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] Imam Baba Leigh - 10 lawyer & Defense Funds $200 pledge?????
FolksBanka Manneh and others have been spearheading a fundraising drive for months. It will be ideal to contact them more importantly build upon what they have already started. Sariang
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On Mar 22, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Yero Jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Mawdo Demba,
Thanks for the updates. You will probably need to link with Ebrima Conteh. Recall that he've been talking about this for the longest.
Count me in, and like the mentors say, "Go forth & conquer!"
I am in for any struggle free of political hypocrisy, division and bullying of any sort.
Best always,
Yero
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 00:06:32 -0700
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] Imam Baba Leigh - 10 lawyer & Defense Funds $200 pledge?????
To: [log in to unmask]
Yero, yes am aware of the fundraising with Banka.. that seems to be a one time designed to help relief the family while Baba is away...
This idea is actually a broad base funding for ALL prisioners of conscience... it would be a permanent fund drive if we can get it moving... It is only an idea thrown on the table.. Do we think it is a viable idea doesn't matter where it comes from... if yes, let's show hands... if not the fight against impunity continuous.
thanks
Demba
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Yero Jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Mawdo Demba et al;
Great points.
With regards to the fundraising, I suggest that any interested in continuing this effort should link with those who are already doing the drives, in the persons of Banka Manneh and Baba Hydara last time I checked. It is proper that we don't operate in small scattered chunks.
Nyang's points below are worth noting and regardless, we still have to pursue justice to whatever level we must.
Best regards,
Yero
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 23:44:51 -0700
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] Imam Baba Leigh - 10 lawyer & Defense Funds $200 pledge?????
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Lamin, Not only are we confronting the Prefessor at the Courts but we are also confronting those sitting in the courts. How dare they go down in history as ruling on continuous detention of citizens? What would that say about them sitting on those courts? Not that we expect them to rule in our favor but they will be forced to take a stand....
Everyone of them will be accountable for their own action and will pay for it in one way or another... I say let the brave men and women on those courts tuck in their tails and succumb to the professor... Their days will come as well like Moses Richards...
thanks
Demba
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Good question Nyang, but it is absolutely vital that the Professor is confronted in the courts, and that the spotlight is shone on the judiciary. I understand your cynicism completely, but absent exceptional circumstances, exhaustion of domestic recourse is a prerequisite to admissibility of ECOWAS Court action
LJDarbo
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Sent: Thursday, 21 March 2013, 22:43
Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] Imam Baba Leigh - 10 lawyer & Defense Funds $200 pledge?????
Good suggestion Demba, but if i may ask, what outcome do you expect out of a court action by even a team of 20 lawyers? I may agree that such an action may server to raise the plight of Imam Baba Leigh to the forefront of current national discourse, but what efect or result do yo expect from such an actio?
I think the case will just be dismissed by the courts or the respondents simply play innocence just like they did and is still doing in the cases of Rambo Jatta, Kanyiba Kanyi and Ebrima Manneh.
From: Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] Imam Baba Leigh - 10 lawyer & Defense Funds $200 pledge?????
Yus & Lamin,
Here is how I think Imam Baba Leigh can be adequately represented in Gambia without anybody being arrested... I think a group of lawyers can sign up to represent him as a group.. say the Bar Association appointing 10 defense lawyers to file a case at the high court.. or 10 brave independent lawyers come together and sign up to file a case to be heard at the high court.
At the very least I don't think they can or will arrest all 10 lawyers for simply representing a citizen....
Another suggestion I have to practically support this case is to urge Gambians to come up with contributions for Imam Leigh's defense fund... I would pledge $200 to this fund and if we have 100 - 200 Gambians pledging minimum of $100 dollars we are looking at $40,000 almost D1.3 million dalasis for defense fund... Do we have this commitment from our fellow Gambians on this list to do this project... anybody can lead this effort... from Europe, US, and anywhere around the world...
Can we do this, any suggestion from anybody...
Thanks
Demba
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Yusupha
The ECOWAS Court is indeed an option, but the Constitution itself offers a powerful tool to demand Imam Baba Leigh's release from custody. Do you know anything about the allegation that the family wants no recourse to law in order "not to offend" Professor Jammeh.
Imam Baba Leigh is no ordinary Gambian and so my money is still on the supposition he is alive.
Like you, I am overwhelmed by his continued disappearance but where is his congregation? Will anyone taking up his case in The Gambia, including a legal representative, be arrested, abducted, or disappeared? This is not inconceivable, and my question remain how we stop fellow citizens from forcefully disappearing in the country? If we can solve this problem, we are home free!
LJDarbo
From: Yusupha Jow <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2013, 15:03
Subject: Re: [>-<] Imam Baba Leigh
LJD:
I think we have to mobilize the resources to file a case against the dictator to produce Imam Baba Leigh. There is indisputable evidence that he was abducted by the agents of the state. Let's put pressure on the dictator in the most meaningful way. This case has to be taken to the ECOWAS court of law or any international court that will accept the case. This way we make it clear to him that concrete action will be taken against these type of arbitrary disappearances any time they happen; and that he will have to account for these people whether he is in or out of the State House.
Thanks
Yusupha
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Thanks Yusupha, and my main interest lies in your first point:
Why the silence about this man's disappearance? Doesn't it affect your
conscience that a man with kids as young as eight can simply be taken away
from his family yet Gambians all over the world aren't up in arms about this?
Does any society that has a collective conscience allow this to happen?
I note YJ's arguments, but the theater for these abductions is The Gambia. Not a day goes by without my thinking about your above, but in all honesty, I am overwhelmed. I'm sure many Gambians have "conscience" but how do we energize that "conscience" to protect each other from killings, abductions, and arbitrary arrests. A solution to this issue means we are more than 90% nearer our liberation target.
Any practical ideas on your point number 1?
LJDarbo
From: Yusupha Jow <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tuesday, 19 March 2013, 20:25
Subject: [>-<] Imam Baba Leigh
The man has been held incommunicado for over 3 months now. His family and his friends have not heard a word from him in this time. I have a few questions about this:
1. Why the silence about this man's disappearance? Doesn't it affect your conscience that a man with kids as young as eight can simply be taken away from his family yet Gambians all over the world aren't up in arms about this? Does any society that has a collective conscience allow this to happen?
2. What has Imam Baba Leigh done to deserve such a fate? No charges have been read against him, absolutely nothing.
I believe we reap what we sow as a society. I am of the opinion that we will all be punished by the almighty if we don't take concrete action about what has happened to this
man.
Thanks
Yusupha
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