ATT Jr
 
And I thought nothing escapes your watchful eye on Ellen!
 
Mboge told us about his little darlings. Please refer to extract below
 
 
"Whilst convulsing in these anxious thoughts, suddenly, I saw my telephone flashing with a familiar number displayed on the screen, I knew something I didn’t want to hear was going to be conveyed.  I stared at the ringing phone and was dazed for some moments before summoning the courage to pick it up. I answered and the voice of Cousin Pa Omar (Damel) Faal came through, and he said to me: ‘Mbye is gone’, at that very second I felt my heart sinking in sorrow and I felt an inexplicable hollowness inside.  Gloom took over and overwhelmed me. Tears started pouring out of my eyes.  My little princess Olimata Mboge (moms namesake), gazed at me, wondering why my eyes were wet with tears.  With her swift gait very similar to her sister’s (Aminata Mboge), she came and sad on lap.  God bless her, kids as always think their parents are superhuman so it was puzzling and strange for her to see tears rolling down her dad’s cheeks. I looked at her and
 tried to explain that Uncle Mbye has died but no sound came out.  Instead, she dabbed the tears from my eyes with soft sheets of tissue paper and gave me a hug and said to me in Norwegian ‘Deg gå bra, Papa’ (It’s gonna be alright, Dad)."
 
                                                Modou Mboge, Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:02 AM

 
 
 
 

--- On Thu, 25/3/10, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT FOR FORMER HIGH ...
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Thursday, 25 March, 2010, 22:49



Congratulations Olfactor. You have three beautiful kids and one on the way. We wish mom and baby a healthy carriage to term and do let us know when the beautiful baby comes. See, if I didn't ask you, we'd never know and you would have been running around causing folk anxiety and chagrin. But you know being responsible for kids does not mean they are yours. A friend of yours told me one looked like him and the other the mail man O'Donnelly.
 
I love you men. You gotta invite us to the Ngainteh. If its a boy, name him Haruna. Why not? Haruna.

-----Original Message-----
From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 4:13 am
Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT FOR FORMER HIGH ...



Haruinerding,
 
Why do you wanna know if i have kids or not? Remember you still varifying my gender/sex? Well, i am living with someone who believes i have what it takes to give her two beautiful kids plus a third she is expecting this summer.  There is also another female who gave birth to a beautiful girl some 12 years ago who believes yours truly is responsible.  
 
Maybe consult you DaaManso for a revelation whether this genderless one has kids or not.
Mboge



On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



For someone who is not a sissy, you sure like talking about ASS Olfactor. And I didn't say jumping into any Dinko, I said Jumping OUT. You're already in there. Do you have kids Olfactor?
 
Haruna.



 

In a message dated 3/25/2010 3:41:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:

MR Haruiner Ass,
 
I thought you had few hours to cook for whatever kids you claimed to have (are you sure that kid or kids are yours, sissies do not work it you know). Or was it just a lie or pretentious brag about being a caring parent while the nasty misogynistic ass was letting the kids mum to do all the work.
 
Hope you have time cos you are gonna have a lot of fitting missing words in what you read from me, cos i cannot speak or write English or any language.  
 
As  for your drivel or should i say the runny stuff oozing from your bloated behind belong to the sewer, i wonder how it can make me jump into any DINKO.
 
Since whenever someone points to the shitty fetid trash coming from your stinky behind, means people hate or are jealous of you, well it will not wash with me.  Or im waiting for your silly boast of what you have done for folk and how many people you have . You remember that one when you had an argument few years ago on another forum. As if Haruiner is the only person on earth helping out.  Please there are thousands of people who are making a difference to others  everyday without bragging about it. 
 
Keep the cheap jibes coming. I keep chuckling seeing you doing all you can calling me unwell or suicidal perhaps thinking you are winding me up.  Keep them coming Mr Knucklehead Haruinerding.  
 
As i say i need no ones approval, encouragement, padding on the back on this forum or anywhere to be me. Moreso from a trashy ass like you.  I have been surviving and doing my stuff without you or anyones help, so keep this shit about love or what have you to yourself. If hearing me saying that makes you have diarrhea so please situate your ass near a toilet cos you gonna have a lot coming your way.
 
A woman or man, or in betweeen, i am not sure.  Please let me know what sex/gender i am.  
 
When did you become the purveyor of anything, moreso love and cheers.  I did not know you are such a liar.  Your record of insulting folk is legendary.  Men, why are you pretending. 
 
Mr Knucklehead Haruinerding sissy, why ask a question when you know the answer.  Perhaps it Nirvana as you say. Nirvana my you know what...!  What more can i say to you knucklehead since you have revelations from DaaManso.
 
Got to go now, catch up in few hours.  I wonder if I am not making sense how come you are able to understand what i am writing .  I see your side kick Sountou MAMA Moofurriing is moving on.  How are the English lessons going with him and the rest of your entourage.  Piss head misogynist, see you later.
 
Mboge (Unwell, tormented and waiting for your help to know what sex i am)
 


 
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



[------Original Message----- From: Modou Mboge [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tue, Mar 23, 2010 1:16 pm Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT 
FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE? Haruiner/Suntou,
Haruine rI choose what to call you, not you, get that.] Olfactor.
 
Quit running your words together. Why can't you invent your own name for me since you are your own man??? I guess you are now Mams' man.
 
[Since you chose to call folk anything  thatr visit you in your hallucination, why are you telling me not call you what i choose.  Get pissed all you want, do i care i think not.] Olfactor.
 
So if I tell you to jump out of the Big Dinko, you will do it eh? Ok Jump out. To save your own life.
 
[And talking about my use of the English language, yes i admit i am not good at it but maybe first teach your entourage especially your side kick, Suntou Moofuring who moonlights as a columnist to learn his grammer and sentence structuring before he spew anything from his orifice.] Olfactor.
 
Sidekick is one word.
Mohfooring.
grammar.
Sentence structure.
spews.
out of orifice. Not from orifice. Orifice is pejorative when referring to a fellow citizen.
 
[The two sissies Haruiner and Suntou Moofurin, i don't who is who, so you fretting about me hating you.  What silliness? Oh i see  it is 'about my delinquencies and inadequacies i guess.' Just shitty piffle.] Olfactor.
 
You're not making sense here Olfactor. Haven't you forgotten a word or two?

[I am giving you your own medicine.] Olfactor.
HarunaMos don't take medicine. That's what I got in a fight with my doctor about. I ended up convincing her not to take medicine herself. She thought I was crazy.
 
[You have been running your shitty mouths at anyone here who differs from your the fetid opinions you keep spewing as some learned analysis.] Olfactor.
 
I only demand that you use correct English when you speak with me Olfactor. Is that too much to ask?? What is "from your the fetid opinions"?

[Haruiner, your  misogynism is apparent, so what  if i were a woman.] Olfactor.
 
So what if you are a woman? Acknowledging that is the first step.

[Are women less than men?] Olfactor.
 
NO. For the simple fact that she is called Woman means she is more than a man. Whaddoyou think Olfactor?
 
[amI happy to be called a woman or even in between.] Olfactor.
 
So are you a woman or somewhere in between a man and a woman?
  
[Suntou Moofuring, so you are with times because you read stuff from the net. I know you've no idea to differentiate things but i tell you this people have choices.] Olfactor.
 
Yes. People have a choice to kill themselves too. Folk like you should not be given free health care Olfactor.
 
[Most people still enjoy reading from books, magazines, periodicals etc the traditional way.] Olfactor.
 
Yeah but what is your reason for being one of those people? That is the question Olfactor. Is it Nirvana?
 
[Get that Mr Fool pretender BUDDING political analyst.] Olfactor.
 
This is uncalled for Olfactor. Why do you work yourself up just to hate? What do you intend to accomplish by being rude just because you have always been rude but have suppressed it against your good health?

[Well, Haruiner if your side kick is nice with me, what is stopping you from being nasty with me.] Olfactor.
Nothing that I can see. I just choose to be nice to you Olfactor. People have choices you know.
 
[As i said to you before, i do not seek, crave or need  your friendship, encouragement, cheer or love. Take them where they are needed or asked for.  I do not need or seek anyones anywhere else approval here or anyone to be me.  And that goes to 
friends or family.] Olfactor.
 
I am the purveyor of friendship, encouragement, cheer, or love just like you are the purveyor of names. You know what that means don't you Olfactor? What have your friends and family done to you Olfactor? I know deep down you love me Olfactor. You just don't know it yet. I intend to yield you revelations like you've never had them before. Do you dream Olfactor?

[And why can't you guys stop lying about anyone trying to dictate to the flea infested brain of Suntou Mama what to do with his political affiliation with the UDP.] Olfactor.
 
Not anyone. Someone.
flea-infested.
Suntoumana.
 
[I only refer to the UDP because since he thinks people like me have been domicile in the West for years without going home, i just thought since he so politically savvy and with many qualifications as well as being endowed with seeing things no ordinary 
folk sees, just perhaps the UDP will be better served on the ground.] Olfactor.
 
What does being in the west for years without going home have to do with UDP. You recall Suntou lives in the west too. The UDP is domiciled in Gambia.
 
[Moreover with his project of exposing Halifa Sallah and PDOIS why are you Sountou Moofuring wasting in the West Midlands.] Olfactor.
 
Aha. Halifa. BuDOIS Sek. 

[Bring it on!  Call your back ups. I see you are throwing around names. You have not seen anything yet from this unwell and tormented soul.] Olfactor.
 
I have not seen a hoomang bing get so excited over nothing as you Olfactor. Are you well??? Bring what on? I think we need to expel you from here.

Haruna.

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> 
wrote:

Suntou who is this gentlewoman you keep sharing with us??? Gentle has 
left Olfactor years ago. He is now crouchingtiger. Oh BTW Tiger will be 
back for the Masters at Augusta National. i so look forward to that. I 
have been practicing my putting over the year and my coach Tiger will 
help improve that some more. Suntou you're too nice to Olfactor. Might 
you now be an Elizabethan like my friend Hamjatta???? Where's that cat 
anyway? How's he doing???
T

Haruna.

-----Original Message-----
From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]



Sent: Tue, Mar 23, 2010 6:16 am
Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT 
FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE?


Haruna, your sense of humour has lighten up this place. I could not 
stop laughing aloud. It is good for our soul. I will be requesting old 
copies of the economist magazine from the gentleman, I will cancel my 
own subscription.
Haruna, in this day and age, when both academic materials and proper 
journals can be securely access online, when books are now in portable 
computerise (digital form), i wonder why the gentleman is keen to let 
us know that he receives the hard copy of the economist? I wonder. Talk 
about refusing to march ahead with time.
Good news for the Gunners: JAY-Z want to invest in the club, Spike Lee 
is our big fan as well.
 
Haruna, I also commend your analysis of the actual case in question, 
Justice Njie. As you opined, they knew full well Yahya will never allow 
them to do their jobs independently, yet they agree to take the 
positions, hence she should face the music.
The accusations are that of financial misappropriate. I also learnt 
that, the Nigerians has taken over our legal profession, thanks to the 
sack Justice Secretary.
The gentleman's anger is as a result months of disheartening comments 
he couldn't bear coming from my end. He has already made up his mind to 
insult me, emptying his heart's delight on me. I am happy that, he is 
relieve of his burden.
 Why get inflamed over Rwanda whilst our stakes are the Gambia. And why 
be bothered about what I do with my party of choice? It is fascinating.
It is reported that, Kegame's own government has in it genocidal 
maniacs who still boast about their Tutsiness, let him clean up those 
sick folks before branding others 'divisionist'. Room for improvement.
The gentleman's quest to get personal is understandable. if it helps 
him have a good enough sleep, it is fine by me. Say all you like 
against Suntou, i am sure your friends will tap your shoulder for it, 
as for me, i will enjoy my green tea and think of another subject. My 
old advise is that, stop being rude, calm down and remember that, 
people will be disappointed in you for using foul language.
Suntou


 
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> 
wrote:

Ok Olfactor. So you say Suntou changed the topic first. And you went 
right along with the changed topic. You see what I mean about you 
needing help Olfactor?
 
I'm just kidding men. Let's chuck this one to a comedy of errors 
Olfactor. I promise I got loads of other more significant stuff for 
you. Please. I don't know why you're always on edge. I thought that was 
Giuseppe, but I swear you're worse than my friend Giuseppe. But for his 
unnecessary disdain for Hon. Hamat, theguy is a wonderful fellow. "If 
you want to hide from Hamat go to Gambia". Men you guys are experts at 
low blows. Even Evian can't top that. What?????
 
WHy are you bringing Giuseppe into this discussion. I thought he were 
your friend????? Olfactor you really need help.
Haruna.






-----Original Message-----
From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]



Sent: Mon, Mar 22, 2010 9:21 pm
Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT 
FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE?


Haruiner,
 
Low blows will not do!  Varify yours first.  Didn't your side kick 
bring in Kagame into the discussion.
 
Mboge


On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> 
wrote:

Ehhh Olfactor,
 
I am not your companion. Don't tell me someone changed our discussion 
when you were the veritable detractor. And don't tell me you're a man 
of your own when we are trying to discern if you're a man first. I am 
not your companion. And are you a Pan-African???
 
Haruna.


-----Original Message-----
From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>

To: [log in to unmask]



Sent: Mon, Mar 22, 2010 8:28 pm
Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT 
FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE?


Haruiner,
 
As usual, you've woken up and dittoing has began.  Your stupid friend 
moonlighting as the political analyst changed a strictly legal 
discussion to comparing apples and oranges.  There is nothing 
comparable between Kagame and a rogue like Jammeh.
 
Tell me about what jungle justice i am running away and what havoc did 
i participate in to warrant my coming to live in the west.  Persona 
delinquencies and inadequacies, what load of BS
I am a man of my own and I am not seeking yours or anyones approval 
for anything.  Talk of trashy and nonesensical self-delusional 
importance.
 
Mboge


On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> 
wrote:

Suntou,
 
Thank you for your common sense. The problem with some of these folk is 
that they participated in the wrecking of Africa before they fled 
jungle justice or they had buyer's remorse once they settled in their 
new western homes. And they blame their personal delinquencies and 
inadequacies on the west. I say they brush their teeth before they 
speak to me about Africa or Africans. How you change a conversation 
about law and jurisprudence to a defense of kagame is beyond me. 
kagame's person or character was not in question......however you feel 
about the man. Extradition requests are between Judicial branches and 
nations. Not between Presidents or other idiots.
 
Thank you again for your marked sobrieties Suntou.
 
Haruna.


-----Original Message-----
From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]



Sent: Mon, Mar 22, 2010 6:17 am
Subject: Re: Fw: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - 
PRECEDENT FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE?



The gentle man who wishes to make some us look like uncaring Africans, 
hence not qualify in advocating anything African should take a good at 
himself and his place of domicile. Many a times we read and hear our 
Pan-Africanist brothers resident in Europe and America for decades 
lecturing us about Euro-American this and that on Africans.. How 
self-serving these brothers are.
 
If you wish to take the moral high ground on Africa, then do the decent 
thing and parachute to the West, East, South or Central Africa, then 
try screaming from the rooftop there, hopefully people will pay 
attention to the nonsensical out pouring of cheap emotion. Some of this 
So call Pan-Africanist hardly ever venture into Africa, yet they feel 
singing Pan-Africa enough in making words relevant, give us a break.
The economist Magazine has nothing to lose or gain in the articles some 
of its commentators write about Africa. Can we for once see things in 
their right context instead fancying around hanging onto our own 
baggage of partisan politics. If anyone is educated in the west, you 
must without a question read books, be lectured by western professors 
and enjoy the western way of live. What moral ground do you have to see 
others as less of an African than you are? Below is the Economist 
Magazine's article on Kegame and Rwanda. In fact the article 
acknowledge the level of financial discipline the government of Kegame 
is instituting, yet the other facts cannot be left unspoken about 
because one is doing something’s right and other major wrongs. We 
should delineate cheap emotion from serious issues
 
 
http://www.economist.com/world/middle-east/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15622375
 

Progress and repression in Rwanda
Divisionists beware
President Paul Kagame has improved people’s lives at the expense of 
freedom
Mar 4th 2010 | NAIROBI | From The Economist print edition
Kagame, progressive and repressive
THE government of Rwanda is doing a lot of things right. It is pretty 
open in its handling of aid money. Most foreign governments and 
charities are so impressed by its detailed plans and apparent lack of 
corruption that they are funnelling more of their aid directly through 
Rwanda’s government. President Paul Kagame says he expects direct 
budget support to rise by a quarter this year, to $519m.
The country has recovered valiantly from its year zero in 1994, when 
800,000 Tutsis and moderate Hutus were slaughtered. Its centralised 
state is leading the way in economic and technological reform in the 
region. It is improving the country’s infrastructure, education and 
farming, and seeks to preserve its ecology. It pushes equality for 
women, who comprise half the government and parliament.
On the diplomatic front, Mr Kagame has been equally successful. He has 
sent troops to help keep the peace in Sudan’s Darfur province and 
elsewhere. He has stood up to mighty France, blaming it, as the 
region’s then most influential Western power, for failing to prevent 
the genocide. And last month the French president, Nicolas Sarkozy, 
came to Rwanda and offered something close to an apology. France, he 
said, had committed “grave errors of judgment” before, during, and 
after the genocide. Questions linger about the role of French special 
forces during the killing, as well as the fate of Hutus living in 
France whom Rwanda wants extradited on suspicion of involvement in the 
genocide.
France, for its part, has not dropped charges against some members of 
Mr Kagame’s government who are alleged to have ordered the shooting 
down of a French aircraft carrying Rwanda’s then president, Juvénal 
Habyarimana, a Hutu; that action triggered the genocide. Yet both 
countries now appear more at ease with each other. Days after Mr 
Sarkozy’s visit, Mr Habyarimana’s widow, Agathe, was arrested near 
Paris (and then freed on bail) for questioning over her alleged role in 
the genocide. French businessmen came in Mr Sarkozy’s slipstream, 
eyeing minerals and timber in neighbouring Congo, for which Rwanda is a 
conduit. “There is no doubt this is a reconciliation,” says a Rwandan 
government figure.
Yet awkward question-marks hang over Mr Kagame and his ruling Rwandan 
Patriotic Front. The president’s detractors say his party has not owned 
up to killing thousands of civilians immediately after the genocide or 
to responsibility for causing much bloodshed in Congo, which it invaded 
in order to hunt down the génocidaires who had fled there. The 
Congolese government, it may be noted, has co-operated with the 
Rwandans in their more recent incursions into Congo.
Mr Kagame and his government are stifling political and press freedom 
in advance of a presidential election due in August. He is almost 
certain to win but evidently he is determined to secure a big majority 
to implement his “one Rwanda” policies. Opposition parties have been 
forbidden to “use words or facts that defame other politicians”. In 
practice, the government can label any criticism against it as 
“divisionism”, which entitles it to lock up the offenders. Members of 
the opposition say they are spied on and bullied.
It is unclear whether the government will let the Democratic Green 
Party, a feisty new opposition group, be registered. If not, the Greens 
say they will back another lot, the Socialist Party-Imberakuri, which 
should be able to run a presidential candidate. The head of a third 
opposition party, the United Democratic Forces-Inkingi, Victoire 
Ingabire, says she has been vilified since returning from exile in 
January. The government, she says, has encouraged people to assault 
her, accusing her of being a génocidaire. This week a former military 
intelligence chief, Kayumba Nyamwasa, who was reported to have joined 
the Greens, fled Rwanda and is said to be claiming asylum in South 
Africa. The government says he is wanted on criminal charges—presumably 
divisionism.
End.
Going back to our own dictators corridors, What is it that his 
supporter are fuming against us about? They are saying, the man is a 
dictator of development and that he is fighting against corruption. He 
has given women more power and rights. His Vice-President is a woman. 
At some point in his government, there were more women in his 
government as Ministers than the previous administration. All that the 
gentleman is promoting Kegame for, Yahya Jammeh was once hail with 
those same things.
Should there be any reason for the cubing of civil rights and plurality 
of views?
Is Kegame himself innocent of pumping tribal issues in politics? In 
fact, Kegame's men in the army including the high ranking female 
officer play the card more than many others. Check their own Google 
images Mr Gentleman. I have seen images of the Rwandan army's latest 
incursion of Congo, the close senior officers bragging about their 
prejudicial influences. These things aren’t as simple as the gentleman 
is making it out to be.
Nothing should compromise tolerant co-existence, and the opposition 
views is a key part to ensuring the population is represented at all 
levels. Kegame's propaganda alone shouldn't be listened to at the 
expense of others. He should be commended for lots of things, but he 
also needs to understand that framing words against his opponent is not 
healthy for the future stability of the country. Some of us are less of 
a Pan-African, however, we know the working of a genuine democracy. 
Advocates of Europeanism live in Europe. let our Pan-African folks 
migrate to Africa, instead of crying wolf in western towns and cities.
Let not your bias of folks make you blind to their views. Stop been 
haste over public issues. Take a deep breath and read the material 
before jumping to conclusion.
LJ, thanks for your sober and intelligent analysis always. Long may we 
have many non-partisan like you. Speaking the facts regardless of who 
it come from. Saddly, folks here seems to look at names, party 
afilliation, some ignoble little gangs before saying anything   
tangible.      You have shown to be above such petty mantra.
Suntou

Suntou





On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Lamin Darbo 
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:



Mboge
 
You are absolutely right that "Four men accused of taking part in the 
1994 Rwandan genocide win their High Court battle against 
extradition" was "strictly premised on the significance of the Legal 
precedence it sets for 'fugitives' claiming to be escaping 
persecution". Specifically, I was thinking about Justice Safiatou Njie 
(Justice Njie) and whether The Gambia Government is likely to succeed 
in having her extradited by the UK.  
 
Although her alleged crimes are not political, the whole mechanism of 
Gambian justice is heavily entangled in political calculations. She is 
not likely to get a fair trial, and as a requirement of Article 6 of 
the European Convention of Human Rights (ECHR), now statutorily 
incorporated into UK law by the Human Rights Act 1998 (HRA 1998), her 
chance of eluding extradition is looking good.
 
Even as the Rwandan decision is a brilliant exemplification of the rule 
of law, I have to agree with you that the High Court decision was a 
difficult one on moral grounds. I am unsure why Rwanda did not seek 
their extradition for onward delivery to the International Criminal 
Tribunal Rwanda (ICTR), based in the Tanzanian city of Arusha.
 
For Rwanda, it should not matter where these alleged criminals are 
prosecuted. The evidence is suggestive of some involvement by all four 
in the '94 genocide. In that case, common sense would dictate that they 
be prosecuted for their alleged crimes, and where found legally 
culpable, adequately punished.
 
Undoubtedly, the political arm of government was keen to have them 
extradited, but the Judiciary blocked that wish on the explicit command 
of both European, and UK law.
Stated differently, the High Court probably hated the outcome, but 
there was a clear obligation to implement the law as it is. You are 
right that under other circumstances, these laws can work quite well 
for "genuine asylum seekers". This particular decision was nevertheless 
quite agonising.
 
As to Kagame, I defer to your expertise on the man, and his vision. 
What he must do, and this sooner than he may prefer, is to create an 
environment that allows his vision to incrementally mature even as he 
himself no longer leads Rwanda. No one person can fully develop a 
country,  and in my view, this means that every African leader, and, 
or, ruler, must come to terms with his/her own mortality. Only then 
will a mighty continent actualise its great potential by making use of 
the major part of the talent at its disposal.
 
Many thanks for a fine response, and advocacy.
 
Do you think the Gambia's extradition request regarding Justice Njie 
should succeed?
 
Regards
 
 
 
 
 
LJDarbo
 
 

--- On Sun, 21/3/10, Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Fw: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - 
PRECEDENT FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE?
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Sunday, 21 March, 2010, 17:38




LJD,
 
I guess your sharing the judgement on the Rwandans by the High Court of 
the UK was strictly premised on the significance of the Legal 
precedence it sets for 'fugitives' claiming to be escaping 
persecution. I hope it is not presumptuous of me that you had in mind 
the Gambian female judicial employee currently in the UK apparently 
running away from Gambian justice a la Jammeh when you 
shared the ruling.   I assume that it is no rocket science that this 
ruling will provide protection for the corrupt criminals, genocidaires 
and their apologists from being brought to justice where it matters ie 
where their alleged crimes were committed.
 
It seems the so-called High Court Judges are more concerned with the 
human rights of  vile genocidaires than those genuine asylum seekers 
whose fear of being killed and tortured in their homeland is 
consistently ignored and questioned  and in some instances ridiculed by 
Western media pandering to the right-wing politics of the "other" 
coming to take our jobs and scrounging on our generous welfare 
systems.  Im no lawyer but i hope this ruling also can be useful to 
genuine asylum seekers.
 
 
Reading a response to the article you shared by our 
"descerner extraordinaire on this forum" comparing our criminal outfit 
headed by a deranged buffoon in the person of SHEPAD Jammeh gave 
me zits as well as being squirmish for a while.
 
The realities of Gambia and Rwanda are markedly different.   Kagame and 
Jammeh are poles apart.  Kagame is a smart and  patriotic leader, a 
visionary engaged in healing a traumatized people, one fighting a good 
fight in ushering in a new nation based on functioning 
institutions. The howling on this divisionism by the Economist is in my 
view an irrelevant unworthy distraction. Kagame should take no advise 
or lecturing from a rabidly anti-African magazine that once ran a 
feature cover story by Richard Dowden on Africa: The Hopeless 
Continent.  It may be true that many an African country is marred by 
hunger, conflict and strife yet i have no doubt that if anything the 
African peoples are mostly hopeful and optimistic  about the future.  
This may be sometimes wrongly attributed to fatalism.
 
 Of course there still remains a lot to be done in terms of democracy 
and human rights in Rwanda but one must acknowledge the giant strides 
already achieved in relation to these ideals.  It is work in 
progress that is being managed very well under extremely difficult 
circumstances.  Rwanda under Kagame boast one of the most enlightened 
gender equality legislatures in the world.  And this goes beyond just 
symbolic balancing of the sexes in terms of representation (given that 
33% of the Rwandan Parliament is female)  in politics. Women compete 
and participate in all sectors of Rwanda society.  There is evidence of 
substantive and particapatory democracy in everyday life of the 
ordinary Rwandan. The economy in Rwanda is booming, civil society is 
being built and their advocacy left, right and centre permeates in and 
at all levels of society. Under Kagame's Rwanda a state by all 
standards that failed, has emerged way ahead of many African 
countries in terms of health care access to its denizens.  There is 
national health insurance for virtually all Rwandans.  With Rwanda now 
on the right path to development and substantive participatory 
democracy i join the hoard of admirers wishing the Kagame juggernaut to 
keep steaming ahead.  I do also hope that the juggernaut also destroys 
and annihilate all the negative forces trying to block it especially 
those coated in ethnicity.  Ethnicity is important but not to the 
detriment of building a prosperous Rwandan nation that concerns herself 
with providing peace, prosperity and progress  to its people.
 
There exists a genuine concern by those trying to deny the horrid 
genocide that took place in 1994. Politicians such as Victoire Ingabire 
Umuhoza trying to play on ethnic sentiments must be reigned in.  This 
does not mean that people should be denied the right to associate 
with the ethnic skirt they want to wear as long as it is not to villify 
or create schisms between and among their brethren and sisters.  
Afterall the Tutsi and Hutu are from the same family of Bantu-speaking 
peoples.  But if not for a sad historical constructionism perpetrated 
by colonialists based on banal concepts such as 
the Hamitic Hypothesis , the Tutsi-Hutu dichotomous relationship might 
have been avoided.  I shall not suffer the esteem lot of this forum on 
the nitty-gritty of this racist hypothesis which helped in the pogroms 
of the Tutusis in 1959 and the genocide of 1994.
 
 
 We have seen the shenanigans of France and some other northern 
governments trying to stifle the progress and development of Rwanda 
since the RPF came into power.  I will have Kagame any day as my leader 
compared to the rogues we have splattered across our wounded continent 
irresponsibly abusing the noble ideals of democracy and human rights. 
 
Best,
 
Mboge
 
 
 
 
 
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 7:56 AM, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> 
wrote:

LJ, reading the economies Magazine edition of last week, i can see 
similar tactics in the arena of suppression of opposition views in 
Rwanda to that our own mad man. Kegame's government invented a 
dangerous term 'divisionist'. This term is label against opponents of 
the government with the country's sad past. The genocidal past was 
trigger by tribal sentiment, hence the divisionist concept.
It is interesting how our guys invent this sinister strategies to 
suppress alternative views. Key members of the opposition are regularly 
accused of being guilty of genocide, a tack one is unable to free 
himself from.
Suntou




On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Lamin Darbo 
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Subject: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case
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Date: Friday, 19 March, 2010, 0:08


LJD saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you
should see it.



** Rwanda accused win UK court case **
Four men accused of taking part in the 1994 Rwandan genocide win their 
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