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Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:56:46 +0100
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Lamin

Sympathy for what? By the way, no more comments to
make on the Chongan issue

Thank you and god bless.

Sanusi


--- Lamin Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >
Sanusi,
> I certainlt sympathize with you. Yaya Jammeh is not
> going any where this
> October. I will bet you on that. No elections is
> going to ouster President
> Jammeh.
> ON Chongan, Sam Sarr and Co., I recommend we discuss
> all human right
> violations. If we are discussing only after the
> coup, what qualifies once a
> terror like Chongan to play victim and condemn any
> other terror?
>
>
>
> lamin Ceesay.
>
>
> >From: Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPEN TO US AT RIP.
> >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:29:59 +0100
> >
> >Mr Jallow
> >
> >I think I will have to take some part of the blame
> for
> >"inflaming" this debate. Perhaps, I should have
> stayed
> >mute when Ous Ngum began his "counter attack". In
> my
> >book, I always have respect for people who are firm
> >and fair in their actions. In my view, for Chongan,
> to
> >say no to a coup plot and tried to resist it speaks
> >volumes for me and thats why I sympathised with him
> to
> >a greater degree. As I said in my previous emails,
> If
> >Gambia had 10 of Chongan's types during the
> >insurrection, July 22 Takeover would have been
> >crushed, period. Here I saw a man exercising his
> >legitimate powers only to be betrayed by his
> immediate
> >boss Pa Sallah Jagne, who wasted no time in joining
> >President Jawara and many others for The American
> >Vessel. How sad this man (Chongan) had to be left
> in
> >such bizzarre situation. As mentioned before, if
> Ebou
> >Colly had kept quiet about the Coup, no one would
> have
> >had first hand information from Chongan about the
> >prison conditions at Mile II prison. It is
> therefore
> >unfortunate that after Ebrima Chongan has made this
> >sacrifice of enlightening us about their prison
> >conditions, someone else tries to castigate him
> about
> >his past record. In my view, thats totally unfair
> and
> >I still stand by it, since most of them wanted to
> hear
> >from Chongan.
> >
> >Ous,Joe Sambou and many others are trying to make
> >reference to Chongan's past record. No problem with
> >that so long as the debate is about Human Rights
> >violation under the PPP regime. In fact I am ready
> to
> >partcipate in this debate if it is on the table,
> but
> >to be honest with you what we were debating about
> is
> >how military personnel detained under Decree 2 of
> the
> >AFPRC dated July/August 1994 were harshly treated
> at
> >Mile II prison. Lets therefore take note of that
> >before we lose track.
> >
> >On that note, I shall not make any more
> contributions
> >as it appears, a lot has been said and I wonder
> >whether this helps us in the struggle to topple
> Yahya
> >Jammeh through the ballot-box.
> >
> >Come October 2001 Gambia must be free as Yahya must
> go
> >
> >Have a wonderful morning.
> >
> >Sanusi.
> >
> >--- Ousman Jallow Bojang <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >
> In a
> >message dated 7/11/01 2:15:11 AM Pacific
> > > Daylight Time,
> > > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > "I hope you people understand that by focusing
> on
> > > > Chongan's past record as a soldier/police
> officer
> > > only
> > > > makes things difficult for us. If this is the
> > > approach
> > > > then surely people like Sir Dawda K Jawara, OJ
> > > Jallow
> > > > and many others cannot speak out about Human
> > > Rights
> > > > violation in The Gambia, since we all know
> what
> > > > happened after the events of July 1981."
> > >
> > > Mr. Owens,
> > > I cannot any more to your above words. This is
> what
> > > we should try to avoid.
> > > Mr. Ngum raised some very important points
> against
> > > Chongan and to my surprise
> > > they were substantiated by Mr. Joe Sambou. And
> all
> > > the Mr. Ngum is trying to
> > > say is that for Mr. Chongan to be playing victim
> > > when he was a recipient of
> > > his own medication does not mean that he is
> trying
> > > to justify what happened
> > > to Mr. Chongan.
> > > And one thing I cannot understand is that
> Chongan
> > > was defending the "legal"
> > > regime but those who are defending this regime
> > > despite with all her faults
> > > are called others.
> > > Come on now. Let us all be real here. As brother
> Ous
> > > Ngum said, let us call
> > > "a damn spade what it is."
> > >
> > > Ousman Bojang.
> > >
> > >
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