Burama you said

"If i get you right - Yahya can decide as he wish what NA do, not do,
what's the time limit and when his action can override. Dictatorship!"

No you putting words in my mouth. that is not what I said. You asked a
question and I answered it with limitations.

By the way President's are not elected to enforce laws the Judiciary does
that. Presidents are elected to craft policies which are debated and
enacted into law by Congress. If congress deliberately or unreasonably
obstruct laws or refuse to legislate one way or another either because of
ideology or just they hate the President then the system gives the
President to remedy the situation AND that is what you are seeing Democracy
at work!

Secondly, Bush and Reagan acted on a bill that were passed by a Democratic
house and congress or bipartisan if you may. Did you see any bipartisan
bill out of this congress? I don't care what side of the aisle they are on,
just pass common sense laws and allow the elected party to govern. When
your turn comes you can undo things or do what you think is right and let
the voters decided. That is Democracy. Is it perfect No. does it work hell
yeah!

Have a good weekend and let's get on the radio to discuss these things with
others...

Demba

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Demba
>
> At least in America is 3 co equal branches - that means whether the other
> is inactive or opposed you, you can assume her functions or make ultimatums
> to her functions. It's deliberately set that way for purpose
>
> Surely presidents has prosecutorial discretion in implementing law. In
> doing so the question become what's reasonable discretion and what
> abdication of once duties. That doesn't mean one can suspend a whole law or
> good portions of it. You are elect to element laws on the books whether you
> like them or not. I don't know that limit but hopefully the 3rd branch
> comes in with help. Otherwise America is also heading for dictatorship. The
> next president is likely to stretch it further.
>
> Every president uses executive action. The Reagan and Bush executive
> actions where to reinforce and already passed law that has language fall
> short of intent. However Congress  came after with adjoining bill to tell
> them that's one off and not there job to make laws. So somewhat similar but
> different context. Reagan and Bush shouldn't be allowed (slippery slow).
> Congress should have done the adjustments as appropriate.
>
> If i get you right - Yahya can decide as he wish what NA do, not do,
> what's the time limit and when his action can override. Dictatorship!
>
> In America whether the intent/purpose is good/bad Noam essential factor.
> The system is set that the president can't impose deadly lines or
> preferences which bills should be processed. The executives basic function
> is to faithfully execute laws on the books regardless new one is made or
> not. And he has zero authority to make new laws. If you flip it -
> Republican will claim Reid hold off over 300 bills. He can do it according
> to the system. The ultimate correction is the voters.
>
> Democracy is great but not easy. In a normal behave we cherish it when out
> but when in - different rationalizations/justifications
>
> Every American president has opposition. It's one requisite qualification
> to be able to deal with opposition - get 1 or 1/2 or1/4 or 0. They're
> obstructionist is not a good skill and remain valid because bias media
> bought into it.
>
> Obama has a veto proof major the first 2 years of his presidency - if
> immigrants are not used as political pawn a law could have passed that
> chart way for citizenship or permanent status. Nothing stopped him besides
> is not a priority - in those days a bill a week could happen lawfully.
>
> I wish life is fair so I don't have to rely on some nations pardon to be
> who we deserve to be. I wish Jawara managed ours better - I wouldn't knock
> on America's door for greener pasture. Unfortunately that's in the past and
> I have to face what obtain.
>
> Burama
>
> On Friday, November 21, 2014, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Ah Burama good question. People are elected to government and by that I
>> mean in a true democracy the legislature is supposed to pass laws to
>> address issues of national concern. The President is also elected to
>> government alongside with the legislature. Of course you know the
>> constitution gives the President the executive power to do certain things
>> when there is either deadlock or deliberate attempt by the opposition to
>> block certain actions...
>>
>> If that is the case in Gambia, where the house is deliberately blocking
>> bills then yes I will be ok with the President issuing orders within his
>> constitutional limits to allow foreign citizens to stay legally. Now the
>> question here is whether the President indeed has the executive power to do
>> so??? Well, Reagan did, Bush 1 & 2 did, Clinton did.. Every American
>> President has issued executive orders. So it is constitutionally permitted
>> in the US... what is different from Obama??? What say you?
>>
>> Demba
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Demba
>>>
>>> Let me ask the question differently - will you be ok Yahya legalize the
>>> stay of anyone who crosses from Cassamnance into Gambia? He or his
>>> parents probably are one of those. Or would you want democratic laws
>>> dictate how that is handled whether Yahya like that or not? Or would you be
>>> ok Yahya said I have weighted for the NA long enough or they haven't
>>> produce a bill I supported so am going it my way?
>>>
>>> Am equally an immigrant in America so don't doubt my feelings. But as a
>>> nationalist and/or policy maker in Banjul - Yahya should do as he sees fit?
>>>
>>> Burama
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 21, 2014, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thought provoking Burama. But for what it is worth!! I will choose to
>>>> be a Democrat for the simple reason that on balance Democratic values are
>>>> more aligned with my values in several fronts: First, on looking after the
>>>> little guy and given opportunities for the poor to move up the ladder
>>>> example: Social security and medicare benefits, minimum wage, healthcare
>>>> for all, employer paid healthcare, equal pay for men and women, Public
>>>> education and funding, taxation (the rich should pay more), accepting
>>>> diversity/immigrants,
>>>>
>>>> On foreign policy: Respect for the sovereignty of other nations, no war
>>>> without provocation etc ... I said on balance because my other values align
>>>> with republican public stand on family values, marriage etc... Note: am not
>>>> sure if Republicans really practice the family value they preach... family
>>>> value start with treating the poor with respect and dignity... my two
>>>> cents..
>>>>
>>>> Demba
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 6:25 PM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If this US immigration political fiasco is about The Gambia - what
>>>>> would be your position? Would you reason like Obama/Democrats or
>>>>> Rrpublicans? How did you pick sides?
>>>>>
>>>>> Burama
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, November 4, 2014, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure - flaws in America's democracy but it works for the most part or
>>>>>> many parts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My question though - if some of those issues are debate in Gambia,
>>>>>> would you be for Democrats or Republican argument/position.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For instance - would you support voter ID or not in Gambia and would
>>>>>> you prefer secure borders or not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reference the 2 parties positions on these issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I found many Gambians - those things in America - they're Democrat
>>>>>> and Republican when is Gambia. I also have a close friend from Niger - he
>>>>>> has the same changing positions of many things when is America and when is
>>>>>> Niger.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you said is interesting. More importantly though truth is very
>>>>>> relative to human nature.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Burama
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 4, 2014, Y Jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Excuse my typos...I meant to say, I am not saying it is a perfect
>>>>>>> process,  but way better. Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 08:25:10 -0600
>>>>>>> From: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: What Will You Be - Democrat or Republican?
>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting Burama. My vote, my voice. I however like the simplicity
>>>>>>> of the whole process and its organized nature. No big hassle at all in
>>>>>>> voting. Hopefully Africa will some day catch up to such a process and i am
>>>>>>> saying it is perfect. Keith Ellison and Al ,great minds, will continue to
>>>>>>> fight for the people ..a good chance of continuing to see their
>>>>>>> representation. Come out in your numbers and vote.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Warm regards,  Yero.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 10:42:27 -0500
>>>>>>> > From: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> > Subject: What Will You Be - Democrat or Republican?
>>>>>>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Some or many of the hot political topics in US intrigue me. I view
>>>>>>> many differently as an immigrant in US and as concern citizen of everything
>>>>>>> politics in The Gambia. How about you?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > - Vote ID/No Voter ID
>>>>>>> > - Marriage - 1to1, gay/lesbian and polygamy
>>>>>>> > - Minimum wage increase/no minimum wage or no increase
>>>>>>> > - Comprehensive immigration reform/close the border first
>>>>>>> > - Equal pay for equal work for genders
>>>>>>> > - Sticker gun control/protection of 2nd amendment rights
>>>>>>> > - War on women
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Certainly some are not yet a political issue in Gambia such as gun
>>>>>>> control. Neither war on women make sense to me either - whatever side you
>>>>>>> maybe you have a mother, spouse and/or daughter. Doesn’t really make
>>>>>>> sense…..
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > But voter ID, Immigration and equal pay for equal work are
>>>>>>> relevant in Gambia.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Our economy is not seriously structured so am not sure if minimum
>>>>>>> wage/no or higher is so far an issue………I prefer one based on demand and
>>>>>>> supply as determinants rather than using some governmental distortion.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Marriage is an interesting one - in US marriage is a legal
>>>>>>> institution at state level primarily for material/asset management. In
>>>>>>> Gambia marriage is both religious and cultural - the rules were set based
>>>>>>> on one’s religion/culture and government recognizes those in case law needs
>>>>>>> to come in.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Sexuality - considering that people have right to choose who to
>>>>>>> associate - as a nation we can’t stop anyone from another but we also can’t
>>>>>>> be force to recognize you against our culture, religion or whatever that
>>>>>>> maybe. I guess guys, lesbians and bi-sexuals, etc can do there things so
>>>>>>> long they don’t offend anyone - that includes marriage as they see fit.
>>>>>>> Where do you stand?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > What will you be - a democrat or Republican if these issues are
>>>>>>> debated in Gambia? Take immigration first because that has at least once
>>>>>>> some direct consequences on you or some loved one. Be honest!
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Burama
>>>>>>> >
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