Nakebba:
From my own understanding, I think brother Joe is trying to depict that he doesn't hangout with fake, or unpredictable folks. You need to win his confidence in order to be trusted, or taken seriously. These are my own interpretations. Joe might have a different reasoning on this.
That said, I think you need to reach a truce with Joe. Let focus on the bigger picture.
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From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 19:10:36
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: PDOIS, the disgruntled losers. They still can't hold ralliies.
Ndokeh,
Come back after you edit this counsel will you?
Haruna. I don't go to bed with snakes. Politics or no politics. Go drink
milk and come back to Ellen. I'll be here.
In a message dated 4/4/2010 6:58:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
Nakebba:
Are you not popping bottles for the Easter? Give Joe a break. He must be
busy enjoying his Easter. Politics resumes Monday. Do not interrupt Joe's
programs in Chicago.
The UDP is a government in waiting. There is no doubt about that. You
should get people like Joe on your camp.
Don't go down that level to engage in futility exchanges . Reach out to
them even if they hate or oppose Ousainou.
The problem at hand is beyond politics. It requires sober, and frank
reflection.
This blame game got to stop if we as a nation want to effect political
change. Otherwise, you might end up spending 365 days here at Ellen casting
blames against other.
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From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 18:28:51 EDT
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: PDOIS, the disgruntled losers. They still can't hold ralliies.
Sambo,
The fact that PDOIS can't hold rallies is not because Yahya bars them from
holding rallies, it is because they cannot draw more than a 100 people to
any rally. The IGP does not deny PDOIS permits to hold rallies. And they
still can't hold a rally. In order to hold pseudo-rallies, they engage in solo
fact-finding missions for witch-hunt. Since when does anyone need a
bullhorn for a fact-finding mission??? Don't make us laugh. Nobody wants to join
PDOIS to fight any battle because PDOIS is not reliable and they are
ever-schemin'
UDP is the largest opposition party in Gambia.
UDP/NRP alliance is all the opposition party unity Gambia needs if the aim
is to remove Yahya from the presidency.
Why you change Femi Peters' imprisonment to settle intractable scores with
UDP is odious. Are you not satisfied with your membership in PDOIS? Might
you suggest to them how better to lead you? I don't know if you realize
this or not, but where UDP, NRP, or GMC is denied permit to hold rallies,
joining PDOIS, which is what you hope for, is akin to suicide. We all know how
the solo-factfinding on witches and wizards ended up for you. And you sought
relief via the judiciary. I guess you don't have much against lawyers and
the judiciary then. Wallai momo nyaamaata iko ibeh bulala PDOIS finkintewol
le noma, ilabango teh nyeenyaala.
Why Sambo and PDOIS think that a diminished NRP, UDP, GMC are the best
avenues for PDOIS cluelessness behoves Gambians. For 20 odd years, they have
been on the catwalk, repackaging stale dogmas and ideologies and when they
had an opening to lean on others' sobriety, they screwed the opportunity up
in NADD. Who wants to be led by PDOIS??????????????????????? or any
permutation of it??? PDOIS tried to engineer a marriage of convenience with NDAM
and ppp. Wonder how that marriage is going? You guys can't even choose a
bride if one fell on your laps. You go about life angry at everyone else but
your own inadequacies. You'd think you will learn from 2 decades of mistakes
and missteps. But no. Let us destroy Gambia if we can't lead it. Get a life
people. Your emergencies do not urgencies constitute for Gambians. To be
sure, we are all in a fight. However, PDOIS fights a different existential
battle from the rest of Gambia.
Haruna.
In a message dated 4/4/2010 12:56:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
Ndokey, Quole Beh Nyadi? How's law school going for you? I hope you have
tagged some more titles to your LLB Honors. Good! Please do update us on
how you doing. Yes, let Ousainou appeal, Femi will really appreciate it
until Yaya lets him out. I swear if Gambians expect to be free from Yaya by
your mediocrity then we have a long date with destiny. If Gambians were
in doubt, you have helped them to bring closure to their dilemma. It now
makes sense why when Yaya was poisoning Gambians you folks saw it fit to
issue a pamphlet on witchcraft. I would have hoped that after a decade you
folks would have learned something, but Naaaah! You have one and only one
game plan - We are the Biggest Opposition Party. Now, Yaya took you on your
bluff and what have you to offer - spend time spacing. Remember, Ousainou
and Hamat are all you need to sweep the polls. Before you sweep the polls
how about first holding a bullhorn for two hours succefully. If you
cannot defend your very selves, you think the average Gambian on the ground will
be foolish to waste their time with you? This is just a trial run. There
is more embarrassment on the way. Ousainou will be nabbed by Yaya to push
the envelop further and we will see the one-two of Ousainou and Hamat to
finish Yaya. No wonder why Shingle, Rambo and others that suffered under
Yaya are quiet. They may have reached the conclusion that their association
is futile and their sacrifices is in vein. After all that time in jail
what is the use? This arrest is telling Gambians on the ground that they can
nab Femi Peters just as they could nab a dock worker, and ain't nothing
gonna happen. Then why would people support you if they are just as
vulnerable as the UDP Party as a whole? Anyway, by all means appeal. You can also
repeal in the process. After 15 years, you still don' have an idea what
is around you, and Gambians are supposed to continue to indulge you in your
joke? Get out of here!
Joe
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Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 02:12:01 +0100
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Femi Is getting ready to go to Prison for 1year and fine of
D10,000
To: [log in to unmask]
Joe Saangbuda
Old man you talk like a man who left his head behind. How can you get so
excited that you speak like a
drunkard. Who told you the UDP is paralyzed by the sentencing of Mr
Peters? You surely don't know the
determination of our party.
If you wish to express your excitement to the news of a senior UDP member
being sent to prison, by the
Jammeh Kangaroo courts, you might express that than beating the bush about
what Darboe ought or ought
not to do. Your counsel has never been sought.
Old man you are indeed foolish and naive to think that the UDP is
paralyzed by the despicable acts of the
Jammeh regime against Mr Peters. In fact you failed to realize that even
Mr Peters does not
want the UDP to be paralyzed by his sentencing. He, just like the rest of
us wants to see this fight continues
and not cease till we can bring the criminals to justice, who committed
crimes against our falling soldiers.
Old man, the UDP is not an individual but a party as you seemed to have
misconceived; and you seemed to have
shared that retarded mindset with the APRC Kangaroo Magistrate Kayode. The
UDP will remain a force even if
Mr Peters had been sentenced to death or Lawyer Ousainou Darboe is
murdered by the Jammeh thugs.
The UDP since its inception in 1996, had been subjected to all forms of
persecution by the Jammeh regime.
The UDP supporters have been tortured to death, fired from their jobs,
some still missing and some sent to exile;
yet the UDP remain a force in the Gambia, in the UK and the US.
Though the arrest of Mr Peters cannot be underestimated, as it is a big
set back to the UDP; but its surely does not
paralyze the UDP and it is very foolish of you and naive to come to that
stupid conclusions that the UDP is now
paralyzed. Are you on Jammeh's payrol, Mr Sambou from Casamance.
Let me inform you old man the UDP is stronger today than ever before and
you must pass that message to your
brethren Jammeh.
You further baffled me by questioning Lawyer Darboe's wish to appeal
against the draconian decision of magistrate
Kayode. If Ousainou does not apppeal against Peters' sentencing, what
would he do. Take up arms against Jammeh.
Less you fail to realise Ousainou is not a rebel leader but a lawyer and
politician. Therefore, he will fight against Peters'
sentence through the limited legal frameworks existing in the Gambia. If
you want war with Jammeh, you can go to
Gambia and join a battle with him but don't expect the UDP to start a
rebellion for you.
Nelson Mandela won his freedom and that of his party and people without
waging war against his persecutors.
So Mr Sangbuda, save us your rhetoric. This is no time for your nonsense.
Nemesis Yanks
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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 08:29:44 +0000
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Femi Is getting ready to go to Prison for 1year and fine of
D10,000
To: [log in to unmask]
Ansu, the title of this thread is: Femi Is getting ready to go to Prison
for 1year and fine of D10,000. How did you miss that? Why don't you just
be honest and say you are here because you took offense to my take on
Ousainou? How the hell am I answerable to you? Look at your whole thread, you
have not even mentioned the name Femi Peters once, because of your focus on
holding brief for Ousainou. Many have tried your silly tactic and found
out it don't work with me. The rest of Gambia is waiting for your dear
leader? Today is day three for Femi, while you try to displace your aggression.
Am I holding Femi? Look at you folks, all paralyzed. If you folks cannot
respond to this test run by Yaya, you think the rest of Gambia will
continue to listen to your nonsense? You guys are the biggest and baddest, how
come Femi is in jail? This is the stuff Gambians have been telling you
folks for the last ten years but you could not see the forest for the tree.
All this while you knew the man will be locked up, yet you slept at the
switch. No matter how you try, the issue is Femi, Ousainou, and Yaya, and is
Femi is locked up which was televised to you folks many moons ago. When a
thread reads Joe and Ansu, trust me you do not have to coax me to meet you
half way at any level. Right now, it is about Femi Peters only.
Joe
> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 01:20:53 -0400
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Femi Is getting ready to go to Prison for 1year and fine of
D10,000
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Joe Sambou,
>
> Here you go again doing what you do best; yak yak yak.... You can talk
all the nonsense you can utter here but you still have not addressed the
fundamental question I asked of you...what have you done with all your grand
tactics up your sleeve and the bravery that only Joe Sambou has? Pleeeeease
we are dying to hear you so that if it has any merits perhaps some of us
can join you and may be we can make a difference in The Gambia. May be you
can lead us deliver Gambians from Jammeh's tyranny.
>
> You come here everyday pretending to be the best tactician, the best
castigator, the best showman, the best citizen, and yet I, for one, have not
heard anything tangible coming from you that I can say merits following your
example. You make a lot of assumptions in your attacks on others that are
outright wrong and sometimes just malicious.
>
> Joe Sambou, please take a few days and ponder over my question to you
and then come back with something more substantive next time instead of
railing against others just because you can.
>
> Ansu
>
> JoeSambou wrote>>>
>
> Ansu, I do not have your level of calmness under our current assault by
Yaya, and you do not have mine. Thus, do what Ansu is doing and let Joe do
what Joe is doing. What is sacrilegious about calling a spade just that? I
do not intend for a coward to lead me and I will say it loud and clear.
None asked anyone to be a politician. What talk is cheap? It is apparent that
you and I do not have the same level of anxiety regarding what is happening
in the Gambia. I also perfectly do under that you are not here to address
my Cheap Talk, but are irritated by my explosion on the time waster that
Ousainou Darboe is manifesting to be. I know for a fact that you will not be
this cool like a pack of Camels if someone close to you was whisked. I do
not need to know anyone personally to be this outraged. Since when do I ever
speak for you? Ansu, I am not in the mood to join you in this Maslaa
nonsense and you do not have to bother with anything I say, deal? If not, I say
use your delete key often because you will hear my mind and not Ansu's, if
you read me. Why do you think the UDP cadre are quiet? They know that their
leadership is paralyzing them and it is about time folks muster the
courage to speak up. The gatekeepers of the opposition are suffocating Gambians.
>
>
> Ansu, now that we reached an understanding, please let me exercise my
rights as a citizen. Why the hell did Ousainou as a party leader defend Femi?
Ousainou knew that whether he does or do not defend Femi, the outcome will
be the same. He knew exactly what he is doing. Now that the rubber met the
cement and Femi is languishing in jail, Ousainou the politician is hiding
behind Ousainou the Lawyer and cannot say anything that would address the
clear fix that he knew to be the outcome by the frauds he continues to try
to defend, the Judiciary. Ousainou knows that the Judiciary and Yaya are one
and the same, but try asking Ousainou his opinion about the Judiciary and
you see him foam all over the place without saying anything. Enough of this
nonsense. It is simple folks, Ousainou cannot continue to carry on with
this pretext. You are not the Lawer for the opposition but a leader of an
opposition party. Thus, you need to quit this business of speaking as a
Lawyer at all times while all around you are being whisked to jail. How come
Ousainou can never say what Femi said or did? Shingle, Rambo, et al went to
jail not because they were alter boys for Yaya. It is only in the Gambia do
you see the opposition rank a file whisked to jail while the party leader
shuffles papers for their appeal, when they know they are wasting their time.
If the rest of the world could not get Chief Manneh out, what is Ousainou
thinking that his GRAND APPEAL is the thing we need? It is like the cart
pulling the horse. No, it is Tchangaria that is whisked to jail not his
driver, if you catch my drift. I am not telling the UDP how to conduct their
business, but just in case they think folks are not aware, your leadership is
lending a hand to what is happening in the Gambia. If Femi can be
railroaded, what chance does the average Gambian have without the backing of a
political party?
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 16:34:15 -0400
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Femi Is getting ready to go to Prison for 1year and fine
of D10,000
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > Joe Sambou,
> >
> > What I am talking about is your cheap talk about confronting Jammeh
and calling those you consider not "tough enough" against Jammeh as cowards.
I asked you to be one of the brave ones and head to Gambia to lead just a
civil disobedience against Jammeh. You did not address this issue but just
continued your usual diatribe against others. What have you done yourself?
> >
> > I am not defending lawyer Darboe or Halifa or any other leaders for
their tactics or lack thereof. Believe it or not but I agree with some of
your assessments about the futility of some of their tactics against the
regime. I am just observing your behavior on this forum and I urge you to take
stock of it and I am sure you can do better. If you can try to be a bit more
constructive in your criticisms may be you can be taken more seriously. I
know you have opinions and so do we all. But, you think yours is the best
approach everytime and anything else is worthless. I am not sure how long
you have been whaling against Jammeh now but I what I think is right, don't
you think you should have done something about him by now? TALK IS CHEAP!!!
> >
> > Your Comrade.
> >
> > Ansu
> >
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